Game 92 Open Thread - White Sox (52-37) at Royals (40-51)
by royalsreview on Jul 9, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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Chicago White Sox at Kansas City Royals, Jul 9, 2008 8:10 PM EDT
Apparently, every few years the Ozzie Sox put together a solid bullpen, hit a bunch of home runs, do freaky well in one-run games, and win the division. It's just something we'll have to get used to. At least this time, no one is trying to give Scott Podsednik all the credit, which I consider a net-win in my book.
Taking the ball for the Royals tonight is Brian Bannister (5.15 ERA), a pitcher who with each passing start looks like someone Dayton should have traded in the off-season rather than a future building block.
Banny's first five starts:
| IP | BB | HR | BAA | ERA | |
| Human Interest Story Banny | 32.3 | 6 | 1 | .195 | 2.48 |
This was the Golden Age, when it looked like the 2007 model was not only sustainable, but perhaps capable of being improved upon. Banny even mixed in eighteen strikeouts for good measure. Banny shutout the Tigers in his first start, allowed only two runs against the Yankees, then posted a complete game, earned-run shutout against the Twins. After a rough start against Oakland, he rebounded with another quality start against the Tribe. Since then however, it's been a different story.
Banny's subsequent thirteen starts:
| IP | BB | HR | BAA | ERA | |
| Odalis Perez Level Banny | 75.2 | 25 | 12 | .316 | 6.30 |
I can remember a game thread last season when someone made a comment to the effect of "I love watching Odie pitch. He totally sucks, but somehow does better than you think he should. He battles." It was a eye-opening comment for me, and another reminder of how we can view essentially similar performances in wildly different ways. Odie was a hard player to root for as he was clearly not a part of the team's future. He was just a guy -- an overweight, vaguely unhealthy looking guy -- passing through town for a few years. A salary the Royals were eating to pay for the prospects (Johnson and Pimentel) they'd acquired for him. Nevertheless, despite really having very little ability left, he did string together some league-average months: a 4.40 ERA May and a 4.50 ERA August last season, for example. The fact that he was the Opening Day starter for the Nationals this year was a blogosphere-wide joke, but with some park-effect help he's managed to post a ERA+ of 116 thus far, his best season since 2004. If you saw the highlights of him last week being ejected after a balk call, it would be hard to say he doesn't care or that he isn't still competing either.
Maybe he's even a smart guy too. We just don't know, since no Spanish-speaking baseball player has ever been given that label.
Returning to Banny, while he's given up hits and homers aplenty, it's difficult to characterize broadly just what the problem has been. Control has been perhaps the dominant or underlying problem -- he's had some of the wildest stretches I've seen from a Big League pitcher in awhile at times -- yet he's also had odd starts when he actually is striking dudes out. A side benefit of wildness, perhaps?
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the thing i liked about odalis perez...
and dont like about banny is that it seemed like most of the time perez at least kept us in games…talking 5 1/3 3 ERs 6 and 4….whatever it may be. not good starts, but good enough starts with our bullpen the way it was last year, that we could win….now contrast this with banny who either is lights out…as was the case in april….or is just dreadful…as has been the case since. I dont know what is better, but i know that im far more likely to tune in/stay at the game the entire time if were down 4-3 in the 7th as opposed to 7-3
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
banny has given up 5 or more ERs 8 times already....perez 4 times all of last year
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that exact
quote was from me. But I definitely said similar things about Odie last year. The difference was that I didn’t like watching him pitch…but I did appreciate when he kept us in games because I didn’t expect him to. When he would go 6 and give up 3 or 4 I was usually pretty satisfied.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 9, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
go royals! sox suck.
tonight ought to be interesting…
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think i like interesting...last night was interesting
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen is shot to hell, Bannister is throwing 110 pitches today...
Even if it involves him giving up 28 runs in one inning. Hope he brings his balls to the ballpark today, cuz if he didn’t it could be a long one.
On the bright side, we get to see Javier Vasquez pitch. On the downside, he’s a really good pitcher. I see a lot of Greinke in Javier – both throw hard, and can throw some of the best breaking balls in the AL. Anybody else see this comparision?
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope not....if zack turns into vasquez 2.0....
i wouldnt be hugely disappointed but i hope he’s destined for better things
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh...and ill be shocked if banny comes out by 110...
did we call up any long guys today?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think so. pre-game show didn't mention anything....but Sox did call up DJ Carassco.
...yes…THAT DJ Carassco
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, he's back from Japan? I always loved DJ
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too
always loved him as a royal
by royalsreview on Jul 9, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineups.......a different twist on things tonight..
O. Cabrera ss
N. Swisher cf
C. Quentin lf
J. Dye rf
J. Thome dh
P. Konerko 1b
J. Crede 3b
A. Ramirez 2b
T. Hall c
D. DeJesus cf
M. Aviles ss
A. Gordon 3b
J. Guillen lf
M. Grudzielanek 2b
R. Gload 1b
B. Butler dh
M. Teahen rf
J. Buck c
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good deal....
we need to get grudz up there with more RBI opportunities…he always comes up huge
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
except for the people who just assume b/c he's old that he moves runners over....
when he’s actually been really terribly at it this year….they love him
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2008 numbers w/runners on base
Grudz: .242/.324/.343
Gload: .260/.314/.302
Butler: .326/.381/.400
Teahen: .237/.305/.388
Buck: .310/.366/.480
....should Buck be given a shot in the 5 hole?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember When He
Hit cleanup for a while last year? He did not respond well.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 9, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...i think he's well suited to provide some back from the 7 or 8 hole
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I remember him hitting like crazy the first part of the year before Buddy decided he needed to change his stance
I remember that Buddy moved him up once, he 0-ferd, then he was back down at eighth.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess TPJ only starts road games...
tis a shame.
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Trey realize
He’s got a future Frank White on his hands?
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jul 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are some days
even an early George Brett sits on the pine
by powderbluepower on Jul 9, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too shabby
Only thing I don’t like is Gload in the lineup, but at least he’s been hitting like a league average shortstop lately.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
by RoyalsRetro on Jul 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bannister off to a brilliant start
We need the guy to eat innings and he walks the leadoff batter on 5 pitches. Good job.
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, he was just setting up the double play
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Hillman's pre-game comments were interesting
When he said Banny needs to go back to pitching to contact rather than keep tinkering and keep trying to strike guys out.
Hillman doesn’t like the Brain?
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hillman doesn't like the 5+ ERA
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Pitching to contact"
I seem to remember that is wasn’t that long ago that the Royals staff excelled in this area… pitching to lots of very, very good contact
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Banny On Pace
For an 8-inning 112 pitch no-hitter.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 9, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
8 Innings?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't bring the fire that Gullen does to the locker room, though
To continue to play DDJ so much after the “hives” incident is a slap in the face of the Hoagie Manwich, Team Baby Inspector
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another good AB from David in a season full of them
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AVILES 4EVAR
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And another hit from Ailes
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
aviles seems to be hitting the ball a bit softer, but still getting the occasional hit
by Sean O Se on Jul 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"occasional"
meaning “every other PA”
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's called "a slump".
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm glad he's unslumping.
i’d like to see him stay here for the long haul.
by Sean O Se on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's now 8 for his last 13...
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Gordo's waking up
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice hit Alex
Man, It’s nice to hear Denny’s voice tonight.
"I've seen the future and it's much like the present only longer." - Dan Quisenberry
by Safe@First on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Aviles hits, this team scores runs...
It’s really that simple. It’s amazing what having one more real bat in the lineup does.
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No-RBI RBI for Jose
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bails out Javier big time
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll still trade the two outs
for a second run in the first inning. I mean, sure, never like to see the DP, but I’ll accept it.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than stranding the runner at third, eh
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than the normal Royal outcome
“runner thrown out at the plate, batter retired at first”...
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally clutch and unselfish
He’s a poor man’s Jim Rice!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not helping your All-Star final vote chances Jose...
anyone esle see that he’s in dead last?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In my head, there's a trombone playing
“Wah-wah-wah-waaaaaaaahhhhh”
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jose doesn't give a #### about all-star fan votes
"I've seen the future and it's much like the present only longer." - Dan Quisenberry
by Safe@First on Jul 9, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you consider that he's not getting votes from anyone in
Pittsburgh, Tampa, Cincinnati, Anaheim, or Washington…
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey...clutch 2 out hit
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
trade grudzie now!!!
someone go take a club to some other team’s 2B’s knee
by Sean O Se on Jul 9, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Naw
We have to let him get four more hits before we trade him.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd like for his "Happy 2000 hits" party
to be celebrated with the Royals.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gload will....
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pop out
I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While we're on the topic of Gload not exploding,
What’s the general opinion around here about Ryan Shealy right now? He’s batting .444 in his last 10 games.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally think Shealy's a waste
But that’s just me, and it’s not entirely rational.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
waste>Gload
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Benzinger > Gload
And yes, I mean the 2008 version of Todd Benzinger.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it really is rational....
he wasnt really good when he was ‘good’. He sucked Penasize last year. His numbers arent great in Omaha. He’s not the answer, but what the hell. He’s not gload
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Splitt just made a point I can't believe I've never heard before
and I think it’s a good one. Batting order doesn’t matter, but being very familiar with what the guys hitting around you do on the bases or at the plate can be a benefit. Interesting thought.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Complete Shocker of the Night: Mark Mulder left game in 1st inning...
with left arm injury.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually am kind of surprised he didn't make it longer, any details?
winning records follow good bullpens
by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
16 pitches....5 strikes......"left shoulder irritation" according to the stl TV guys
Struck out Jimmy Rollins
Walked Victorino
Walked Utley…..not even close to the plate…..
and exit stage left…..ne’er to be seen again perhaps.
Any sympathy for STL?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my very good friends is a big STL fan, STL native
All I have to say is “Dan Haren”
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't even have sympathy
for the 1992 Yankees. You expect me to feel sorry for the Cardinals? PSHAW, I say.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice....exactly what i love to hear...
while i feel bad for mulder….not for the cards
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you'll be surprised, but the pope
is catholic. I know, I know… it sounds unlikely.
And yes, I just made a pope:Catholicism::Mulder:DisabledList
by powderbluepower on Jul 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah,
and there’s nothing wrong with that analogy.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(blank) (blank) (blank) said
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuse me?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burlington A Ball Bees got 2 hits in 6 innings
Both by Johnny G-Man
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Little Guido!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
prediction for end of season ERA?
4.5?
that’s what ZiPS said, i think
by Sean O Se on Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.80 - he will out think the league
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're talking ERA, not GPA
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GPA is for stat nerds
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant Grade Point Average, not that semi-new batting stat that I can't remember the full words for
But I suppose I screwing up your joke
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...you didn't screw it up
you just failed to get it.
(Is there some new batting stat called GPA? Really?)
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the one that Hardball Times and some other people use?
I think i/s OBP*1.6 (or something) +SLG. Then divided by “four” to give a “batting average” range number.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you would have to be a freaking genius to figure that out
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
id really be curious as to how smart banny really is...
i mean, the stuff he talks about isnt exactly rocket science
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, with all due respect to your namesake
when sportswriters are used to talking to the likes of Billy Butler and Carl Everett….
Let me give an illustration: I used to work at a place where we helped kids who had learning disabilities. Then, when I’d meet a kid the same age who was average or had no learning disabilities, I’d always think they were BRILLIANT.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...i think his reputation is more based on....
the fact that he reads stuff once in awhile…which doesnt necessarily require much intelligence….its just that the rest of the league spends all day playing Halo
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume by "playing Halo"
you mean chasing tail, getting drunk, and recovering from being hung over
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you're in Philadelphia
Then it means “playing WoW with Schilling and Glanville”
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wasnt talking about those guys....
i was talking about the guys who are too dedicated to be out all night getting laid, but are too lazy to look at a spreadsheet
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's going back to the pacific league?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard someone suggest that today,
but does he have any options left? (I should know these things, but…sigh.)
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i honestly dont know what that would help
his pitches arent going to get any better down there more than likely
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bannister has been talking a lot about changing his approach.
He keeps saying he feels like the only way he can continue to be successful is to strike more guys out. But Major League ballgames are not exactly the greatest time to try to change that much, right? If he wants to work on that new approach in earnest, AAA might not be a bad place for it.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just want Banny to come to Omaha
so you can hang out
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guilty as charged.
I failed to converse with him when he was here last year, so I want to make up for that.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the basement
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
take him....i dont care if he loses games for omaha....
although it looks like we may have good banny tonite
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Porcus, where are you??
The commercial that is “traditionally” your “traditional” favorite was just on. And it was flying in the face of “tradition.”
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's in the other basement
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
doubles < sac bunts
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
“sack” butns
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how many times will you be thinking
“why didn’t he do that last night?”
I’m up to 2 – Grudz and William
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grudz-’b/c there were runners on base’
billy-’b/c my shithead manager told me to bunt’
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Do you want to know how to tell if it's College Night?"
”...when kids start showing up with Elton John glasses and a wiener on their head?”
-Ryan LeFebvre
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sir Elton Probably
Would like that.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you mean guys can move over on a ground out that isn't even an attempted bunt?
Obviously, the Sox haven’t practiced their bunt defense enough
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope grudz was watching this inning
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck sees 8 pitches and gets an RBI
Can’t complain about that.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it when Buck does well
It gives post hoc rationalization for my irrational liking for him.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really irrational...he's pretty good
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy showing off the wheels....
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Favorite Name
For Butler; “Wheelz”.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Jul 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Butler is
not exactly fast. Let’s just get that out of the way.
by powderbluepower on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap, we actually moved the runner and scored!
GENIUS!!
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yay buck
well done. go royals. first place here we come!
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just so we're clear
it’s not like a challenge ladder, and we don’t get to be in first place just by beating the team in first place.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that'd be sweet if it was like that though.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this win counts as 16
you didn’t get the memo?
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what this game needs
bonus games.
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And cage matches
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look, Banny is getting his sabermetrically needed K per inning!
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
banny pitching smart
as always
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These are unbanny like numbers
3.0 IP 35 pitches
by KCScuba on Jul 9, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe we should just tell him that he HAS to pitch the entire game every game b/c we have no relievers...
speaking of…who’s available tonite?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
14 years of perfect attendance....get a life
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or 13...point still stands
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love when they do the legacy seat thing
‘cause invariably, the person waves… stops… realizes the camera’s still on them… waves some more… stops… realizes the camera’s still on them… waves some more… stops… realizes the camera’s still on them… waves some more… stops… realizes the camera’s still on them… waves some more… stops…
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glendon Rusch is starting for the Rockies tonight
WTF?
First Redman last night, now Rusch? And people still think they have a shot of hitting .500 this season?
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and we had a fatelvys sighting a few days ago....
and people said our early 2000’s pitching staffs werent major league caliber
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Chris George?
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and de la Rosa is also toeing the rubber for Colorado
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durbin pitching for the Phillies I believe, hmm where are the rest of our rejects
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if they think they can be .500
but they think they have a shot in the Powerful NL West where .475 might get it done
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Such disrespect for the mighty Dodgers
They have Berrora, how can they lose?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laugh all you want,
But Nomar won’t be out forever!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is angel playing 3rd?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH GOD AVILES IS TURNING INTO A PUMPKIN
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DFA HIS ASS
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mock all you want....
but odds are still heavily in my favor that he wont be a quality major leaguer….
hamelin and berroa had good complete seasons….aviles is 5 months short of that
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut up
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope im wrong...i most definiitely do....
but he’s got a couple pretty obvious weak spots at the plate…i think the pitchers forgot about them the past 3 days
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't get to talk anymore
you mentioned horrible two rookies of the year in one sentence.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie of the Year with a 101 OPS+
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His OPS+ is plunging toward the "Guillen line"
AKA 100
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fiery, leadership-filled single
Wow! First pitch swinging for Jose Guillen. Didn’t see that coming.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jose detractors....watch the guy run...he is so far from being healthy....
if he were grudz, dejesus or sweeney he’d be on the bench for an extended period of time
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can Gload do his clutch gritty thang?
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they shouldn't bat Grudz and Gload next to each other
Two gritty veteran grinders in a row… it’s like two lefties, but worse
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grud is trying to atone.
Gonna have to do a little more than that for making me stay up late to see a dp with bases loaded.
by KCScuba on Jul 9, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN IT
every time I hear the name “Ichi-Gload,”
I want to die.
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But I will happily take the runs that
by minda33 on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rock and hard place
Gload RBI’s help the Royals win, but also help Ross Gload stave off being DFAed
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gload = teh clutch grinder
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I was to tell you
a pitcher would throw 60 pitches thru 3 and give up 5 runs who would you have guessed?
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gil Meche!
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LAWLRECDONE
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Five run lead
WE’RE DOOMED
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did he just explode?
I’m not sure what that would look like.
by KCScuba on Jul 9, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ben Sheets has K'd 9 through 4 against the Rockies
Nasty
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much
the Yankees will throw at him or CC
Who cares about RBI's, how many HDB's you got?
by kcscoliny on Jul 9, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably 200 combined...130 for cc and 70 for Sheets
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They'll go for CC
The Yanks have always liked guys with junk in the trunk
(And “she-male” types, too, I guess)
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC is a throwback
He’s a real “baseball guy”’s pitcher. IE, a pitcher that Ryan Lefebvre would love. A horse. Which really just means he’s overweight and can throw a shitload of innings without getting hrt.
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i could agree with ryan on CCs awesomeness....
although, i dont know that ryan would like it….it doesnt show commitment…hed be letting his team down, and he should look to banny to see how to be a major league pitcher
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wish he would wear his cap straight
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
by buddyball on Jul 9, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just had an epiphany
Teahen is to Royals position players what Banny is to Royals pitchers
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, while Teahen is an underachiever Banny is an overachiever
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, if banny and his 5+ ERA is overachieving....what is his talent level?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I meant how much they are liked and hyped by fans and press relative to actual results
Hyped like future stars, actually a platoon/4th outfielder and back of the rotation starter.
Still like ‘em both, though.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So much for the no-hitter
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and to think...
it was most definitely a sure thing… stupid white sox. they were supposed to be a part of history tonight.
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we had Joey in center like he should be
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or TPJ at short... totally would have ranged to make the play
where .500 might; but, probably won't, happen.
by blue bandwagon on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there goes the shutout.
Once he went to 3-0, I knew bad things were going to happen. Hopefully he can settle down.
by Eppenweb on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man that was an awful pitch to Quentin
Almost like Bannister said.. I’m not walking this guy. Well, boom there she goes
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and it begins...
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and it begins...
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic
Placido Polanco was sworn in as a US Citizen on the field before the Tigers game tonight.
I actually think that’s pretty damned cool.
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by jonfmorse on Jul 9, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see a player embracing the country that's making them a gajillion dollars for playing a game
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he just did it to avoid liriano like visa issues
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or to be able to live hear with his family, and bring them over on the Reunification Act, and avoid being "Urbinaed"
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats another thing...
i dont get these venezuelans who continue to buy huge compounds down there and then act surprised when their mother or sister gets kidnapped
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's their home, I don't blame them for not wanting to leave
But it’s weird to think they need a staff of security guards and can’t really leave the premises
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...it just doesnt seem worth it to me...
either live in your home…in a reasonable house that doesnt scream…’come take me for ransom’ or leave your home and live in a crazy nice house
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm pretty sure they're safer in the huge compound than in a unguarded house
It’s not like no one would know who they were.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
their compound system hasnt been that successful
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still doesn't sound veyr enjoyable, sounds like a prison
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know you've had a solid career when...
you get your requisite 15 or 20 years whatever it is…and are still one of the best at your position when you become a citizen
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Jul 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it just me, or does his head look like it came out of that Simpons' episode
where Homer’s team played the MLB All-Stars? Griffey and all those guys drank some crazy stuff that made their heads very oddly shaped.
Mucho props to Polanco, though.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go...
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it was just Griffy drinking Mr. Burns "nerve tonic" gave him elephantitis
One of my favorite early eps. Best plotline was Daryll Strawberry, kiss-ass
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I can’t look, I can’t look, Clemens, tell me did I make the team?”
“You sure did!”
“Whoo-hoo, in your FACE, Strawberry?”
“Wait a minute, are you Ken Griffey, Jr.?”
“No.”
“Oh, sorry, didn’t mean to get your hopes up.”
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, time to pile on more and keep the momentum
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Buck!
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by slayor on Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Buck
is an angry man. The baseball earned his wrath.
by powderbluepower on Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, it is July and August for Buck's two good months?
How soon until his OPS+ passes Olivo?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
overflow thread up
bit early tonight… but wednesday is my Monsterquest night
by royalsreview on Jul 9, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what the hell is monsterquest?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Jul 9, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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