Game 124 Open Thread - Royals at Yankees
Kansas City Royals at New York Yankees, Aug 17, 2008 1:05 PM EDT
Who is the greatest Kansas State baseball player in Major League history?
For my money, it would probably have to be Ted Power, no?
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Brian just pitch like you did last start
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Game 124 Open Thread - Royals at Yankees
i don’t know for your question?
please answer me.
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priya
Brian, Don't Pitch
Like Ted Power in 1988.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
Adam Cowart will surpass him!
Probably not, just wanted to show my KSU prospect knowledge
Kansas City
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
D. DeJesus cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .291
M. Aviles ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .318
M. Teahen lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
J. Guillen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
B. Butler dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .256
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .219
E. German 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
NY Yankees
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
J. Damon dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
D. Jeter ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
B. Abreu rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .289
A. Rodriguez 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308
J. Giambi 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
X. Nady lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301
R. Cano 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
J. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
B. Gardner cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .176
Wow, Steve Phillips
Just said Albert Pujols has the best OPS in the NL. I’m more impressed with Phillips noting it than I am with Pujols for having it.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
when is olivo's suspension up?
Is this the last game?
I feel
a bad vibe about today’s game.

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees

vs. Royals

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions
Teahen
like DP
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
he’s been awful for the past month
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
that will get him off the schneid right there
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know
why he’s not playing every day. Let’s have a little bingo Alex…
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nice work
smirk, I love sac flies.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
My one wish for the trade deadline was to find someone to take Glad
Wouldn’t have minded giving Shealy one last shot before calling up Killa in Sep.
nobody wants him
he’s barely replacement level, if not below.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Ross Gload kinda sucks, doesn’t he?
Well, 3 runs is nice. Hopefully Banny doesn’t have another one of his 5 ER starts that he feels “satisfied” with.
Banny being Banny.
Leadoff walk.
Banny being Banny!
I bet he was satisfied with his pitch selection, thow.
Banny being Banny.
I bet Buck is happy he has to catch today's game again
After 13 innings yesterday
damnit banny...
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
Holy crap, i thought buck actually threw somebody out
i should have known better
buck finally made a good throw...
but not good enough
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
what the hell is wron w/ alex gordon?
jeter scoring comes into effect as that is somehow a hit….
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
agreed
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he is satisfied too...
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
are you freaking kidding me?
thats dogshit.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
i'm done w/ bannister
i stopped defending him a couple months ago, but i’m on the verge of going all out against him
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
agree
I was always slightly uncomfortable getting behind a USC guy anyway.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
DOG SHIT.
Banny probably feels satisfied with his pitch selection in that at bat, though.
Banny being Banny.
Juuuuuuuuuuust about seeen enough Brian Bannister.
winning records follow good bullpens
Seriously
You have to be the either the dumbest pitcher in the universe or the least talented guy in the majors to hang an 0-2 curve to the best hitter of our generation.
Banny being Banny.
The worst part is he did it twice in the span of 3 pitches
winning records follow good bullpens
banny has a major problem pitching ahead
he gives up more 0-2 hits than anyone i’ve seen in awhile…no good swing-and-miss pitches and he hangs a lot of breaking pitches
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
even banny's outs are hard hit
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
In all seriousness, Rosa can't get here soon enough
Who would be in line after him?
WTF
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Hahahahaha
3 run lead and h e gives up 4
what a piece of shit
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AAA
sorry man. You can throw under 90mph as long as you arent grooving everything.
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don't worry i'm sure he'll settle down and tack on 5 scoreless
just so he can talk about how he feels he’s making progress
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HE COULDN'T CONTINUE PITCHING LIKE HE DID LAST YEAR
THE STATS SHOWED HE WAS LUCKY, HE MUST CHANGE HIS WAYS.
Banny being Banny.
I think Rosa is coming back from injury
I’d take Davies over Bannister, but i’m done with him too.
Maybe Jose Capellan or Dusty Hughes???
i'm trying to figure out who we can call up
only three guys should be up….meche, greinke, and hochevar….davies and bannister aren’t cut out for this right now….
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I Had A
Bad feeling about Banny and the Yanks lineup.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Good thing
we havent given him an extension or anything.
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Every single pitch right over the plate
No control at all
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Oh, I Thought
He was unavailable yesterday because he pitched the day before.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't?
winning records follow good bullpens
/ a pitching machine
winning records follow good bullpens
i'm thinking about turning this off
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
some of the worst pitching i've seen thsi year
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I'm done.
I cannot fucking take it anymore.
I am off to play Madden for XBOX360. Anyone want to add me as a friend, my gamertag is Jobberton.
Banny being Banny.
And no Banny,
I am not satisfied with your outing tonight, and you are NOT making progress.
Banny being Banny.
worst part of all this is he knows we ran out the entire bullpen yesterday
and the offense gave him a 3 run lead and he just pisses it all to hell
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I'm Sure He
Didn’t do it on purpose. With Bannister’s stuff hes has to be accurate, and apparently he’s not today.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously he didn't do it on purpose
but that’s the point, if you want to be a major league pitcher you can’t do this on days like this. it’s demoralizing for the team, it’s pathetic
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Which do you prefer as a fan:
Watching a pitcher walk batter after batter or getting shelled?
Peanut butter jelly time
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Here Comes
The hit and run; it worked once yesterday, so we’re sure to see more of it.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
gee david way to bring the run in
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game is turned off
have fun guys
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by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 17, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
gee aviles way to bring the run in
winning records follow good bullpens
only the royals can not score there
puke
winning records follow good bullpens
Mahay not available today per Ryan
Also doesnt want to use peralta, tejeda, or ram ram.
uh oh
TPJ Is Available
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wow.....this is brutal.......i don't know how much of this i can stomach
may be a slow day for the thread
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 17, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
I Grew Up
With the A’s; this is nothing.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He Didn't Walk
In a run, anyway.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't Worry, Giambi
Killed the rally.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like hillman told him he's not coming out till he's thrown 100 pitches
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The Gobble Treatment?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
boooooooooooo leave him in
winning records follow good bullpens
you'd think, only we have no other real options
winning records follow good bullpens
My official desire is to call up Daniel Cortes
Also might need some new bullpen arms, I’d like to see Fulchino go for Devon Lowery. Maybe Newmann for Dusty Hughes as well
I guess calling up Cortes would screw up his service time huh?
Does he have to be put on the 40 man at the end of this year?
Molina bailed him out swinging at that one.
Hopefully Newman can last awhile
I have to say.
Pretty pathetic “this game doesn’t matter” attitude by Hillman.
For all the flack Bell got for doing that, this was horrid. You’d think they’d at least have a long reliever in the bullpen since they traded Ho Ram, or maybe they could’ve brought someone up incase this happened today.
Banny being Banny.
I agree they should have had someone here in the bullpen after yesterday
No reason to not ditch Fulchino for a fresh arm.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Mark Teahen is not a #3 hitter.
Banny being Banny.
This is ridiculous…..
Any one have an idea on what Banni is doing differently this season than he did last season?
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other than the obvious...
did he use a different offseason training program?
More video this year?
mechanical change?
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thinking too much
slash not being good enough
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He could not continue doing what he did last year.
Last year, the stats showed that he was a FLUKE! Thusly, he has to throw STRIKES! including 0-2 pitches. He may have an ERA 3-4 points higher, but he is doing WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE! to be a good pitcher.
Banny being Banny.
Its strange, I've been trying to find something all game in his stats to show where everything is going wrong...
and the answer is just that EVERYTHING is going wrong. His stats are worse in almost every pitching count, giving up more hits, walks, while in critical situations(RiSP, 0-2 counts etc.) his K’s havn’t budged.
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
He has publically said
He needs to throw more strikes and he cannot keep doing what he did last year (you know, when he was good). Therefore, he is biting the bullet (IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES?!?!) and is trying out new things, much to the pain of all of us.
Banny being Banny.
LOL
Split: “Normally, that would be an infield hit. But not with Jose Guillen running this time.”
Banny being Banny.
I thought today was Christian Family Night?
We ARE being taken to the lions…
Also, its appropriate that Brian Bannister is going to speak at Christian Family Night, because he was crucified today.
Banny being Banny.
It isn't a Royals game
Unless Ryan gets on his high horse.
Tonight, its about Jeter.
Banny being Banny.
Newman is the victim of dropped flyballs and uncaught popups. Other than that, his ERA this year should be zero.
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Pimental and Dusty Hughes both starting today
Both canidates to replace Bannister?
Only reason I said Pimental is he's already on the 40-man
I don’t think either are great bets, but I don’t want to see Bannister anymore.
I agree completely...
Banny definitely needs to use that last option (or second to last… anyone? i forget) and getting Pimental in some big league action might straighten out his head. Which is a definite case…
Ok, I'm going to attempt to explain Bannister from what I see on the outside.
Bannister is the victim of his success last year. He got ahead a lot using his fastball and cutter, worked off of that, and got a lot of GBs and easy FBs. At times he was hit REAL hard and he developed this complex in his head that he has to get better at that and NOT give up so many hard hit balls.
He is a very studious guy, so that being his nature, he is overworking/overanalyzing himself trying to get better. It’s a great thing but a fault at the same time. By doing this while he was having success, he become deathly afraid of the “hard” hit baseball. Even though he had success last year, he decided that he needed to make some changes this offseason in order to have success this year.
That being the case and him being an overanalyzer, he decided that he needed to limit the hard hit baseballs. This is all a good thing. However, the attempt he made to limit them hasn’t been the best thing. By having this hidden fear in his mind of the hard hit baseball, he’s been trying to nibble corners as that is the easiest way to become a successful pitcher. This a true in part. But what he is missing this year is the getting ahead early with his fastball/cutter part.
Look around the league at pitchers who are having success. The biggest key to those guys is their ability to challenge hitters early and work from inside the zone to outside the zone. Most of those guys work thirds of the plate. Outer third, outer edge, off the plate, inner third. That is a simple pattern that could be used.
This is an easy concept to teach, but when you have an inferiority complex about hard hit baseballs, it becomes a phobia. (Someone who has a medical background needs to name it) This is now Bannister’s problem. This hardhitballphobia. (Again, someone name it) When Bannister can learn to get ahead again and ignore the little feeling inside that says first pitch fastballs get hit hard, he’ll be the Bannister we had last year. Until then, we cannot give up on him. He has the ability, movement, and enough velocity to be a successful big league pitcher. Let’s get that sports psychiotrist some work. How do we break that phobia? We need to find out now before he becomes damaged for good.
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What?!?!?!?!
A pitcher working off his fastball and changing speeds?!? kinda sounds like Moose from 98 who minus a few M.P.H. reminds me a lot of Banny early.
IMO I’m not a huge fan of how Banny doesn’t attack and nibbles constantly. Look at freaking Josh Newman! Not an mlb pitcher necessarily but is throwing strikes when he needs to. Damn the defense.
If someone could find the number of times Banny was ahead in the count compared to this year that would be real interesting
Bannister has had some issues with 0-2 counts
If anything, I think he is throwing too many strikes, not nibbling on the corners. He is just getting rocked over and over and over again.
Banny being Banny.
When you're 0-2 you're supposed to have a completely different mindset from any other count besides possibly 3-2...
At 0-2 you rely on stuff to make someone chase or just outside the zone to make someone weakly ground/fly out. Maybe Banny isn’t doing either?
I thought 0-2 was Banny's biggest strength last year
Did he only give up one hit on 0-2 all of last year?
I can't wait to see TPJ on the mound again
I think there’s a good chance.
Fulchino in the pen.
Getting loose…
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Newman is about out of gas.
This is the most he’s thrown in a long time.
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Here comes our rally.
Top of 6th is the inning we get it done.
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On the brighter side...
Paulie Orlando is 2-2 today and we signed Hosmer and Melville yesterday.
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An 8 man bullpen?
Yankees: Not a lot of position players on the bench? AMAZING!
(Jason Smith and TPJ continue to rot away)
Banny being Banny.
30 seconds in google
http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/kc/ballpark/index.jsp
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Bannister needs to go to AAA
but I don’t know who could replace him.
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
I think it'd be good for us to bring up one more starter for a game and let Banni skip a start
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Pauly "Milshakes" Orlando
2-3 with a 2b
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-- Demetri Martin
A double?!
Who does he think he is? Kila Kaaihue? I want HOMERS dang it
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Ryan just pointed out to Split that Ben Stiller is a big movie star… and they haven’t said anything for about 15 seconds… .I wonder what was going on off the air…
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Split walked out of the booth, Hit his head on the wall repeatedly, and then came back in
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So does Banni go on the DL after today with
shoulder fatigue?
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Wouldn't surprise me
Any word on when Callaspo might return from the drunk tank? I know he was with the team on the last homestand.
Optimism
Pass it on. Because I am the greatest pitcher in the world.
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So far we have a pretty decent start from Newman, too bad banny had to ruin it.
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Why would you have Pena hit for German?
what’s the point?
i'm just pissed because i wanted to see him on the mound.
I guess it could still happen.
No, We Need
Him at SS to protect this deficit.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 17, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
his plan was to motivate our offense
i hear he’s smart like that
where tpj happens.
by blue bandwagon on Aug 17, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No way in hell Jeter would charge Fulchino
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Pena and Banni = DFA and my deteriorating sobriety
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Tough Road Trip so far
Good guys(average guys) 11 Bad Guys 43
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Who do we promote to take Fulchino's spot?
And don’t say Gobble.
fulchino

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Gobble

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Royals v. Yanks
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 17, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
I bid on this before the game:
3.26...
is 3.25 too much…
where tpj happens.
by blue bandwagon on Aug 17, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
is that a hint you want us to outbid you for it so you aren't stuck with it?
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fwiw
sportsline is listing Kila on the bench
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Soooooooo....
Could we get Milton Bradley next year? Or Furcal? Or Burrell?
I think Furcal is who we'll give our best shot to
Given our need for a SS and GMDM’s past with the Braves
I don't think he'd be worth it.
Never stopped us before though
Burrell is another JoGui.
You want another one running around?
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Let’s offer a two year or one year deal for Furcal…. if he doesn’t pan out we won’t be stuck. Maybe write in an injury claus too…
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overwhelm him.. give the team options....
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and i don't think teams will be offering 3 to 4... market says two. That's what we offer
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He sticks with his old buddy GMDM.
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6 runs is enough to win a ballgame
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If banni didn't give up the 10 it'd be Mexicution time.
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