Game 126 Open Thread - Royals at Indians
by Freneau on Aug 20, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
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PrintKansas City Royals at Cleveland Indians, Aug 20, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
One of the best things about not being in the U.S. right now?
Complete separation from all coverage of the Little League World Series as well as the non-stop commercials for it with that annoying "My Sweet Love" song.
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Numero uno!
Let’s beat that Tribe and claim back that 4th place trophy that is rightfully ours!!!!!!
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 20, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions
Orestes Destrade
is AMAZINGLY bad as the color commentator for the LLWS. I mean, seriously, the guy doesn’t belong on TV.
Go Blue.
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Kansas City
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
M. Aviles ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320
E. German 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
D. DeJesus lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
J. Guillen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .254
B. Butler 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
M. Olivo dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
M. Maier cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .345
Cleveland
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
G. Sizemore cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
F. Gutierrez rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233
B. Francisco lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288
J. Peralta ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
D. Dellucci dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .253
R. Garko 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255
K. Shoppach c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
A. Marte 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .187
A. Cabrera 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
In other battle for 4th place news...
…I’m enjoying the fact that the Blue Jays can pull into a tie with the Yankees with a win tonight.
Ryan with yet another mention about TPJ not being in the starting lineup...in pre-game show...
to “prove that he can be the starting SS.” He seemed bummed about it, almost as if he wants him to get one last chance in Sept to prove he’s not the man for the job. He tried to equate it to playing Butler at 1B to see what he can do there.
umm TPJ played SS for how many months of consecutive ineptitude?
how much has butler played 1B consecutively?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 20, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
Unfortunately for Will
the only TV channel in Ireland right now is running 12-hour coverage (it is dark the other 12 hours) of the Little League World Hurling Championship.
I like our lineup tonight
and anytime Gil or Greinke are pitching I feel like we have a good chance to win. Let’s hope.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions
anyone see the article (linked on ESPN's Royals page) titled
“Royals shouldn’t tolerate Bannister”? It was supposed to be at the Star’s website, but when i clicked the link, i got an error page at the Star.
How will guillen F this up
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Hey, that'll work
lets get a big hit now
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
gapper one time please
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lol, didn't see that coming
HAHAHAHAHA awful
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3 hits, 16 pitches, 1 run
this team is just playing awful
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they've done their jobs the past couple games
but guillen, butler, buck, ross gload = black hole
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jesus terrible strike zone where the hell did those miss
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normally I'd be pissed about a leadoff walk
but to Sizemore it’s not bad.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
i guess buck is meche's catcher and all but olivo isn't in?
he had a great offensive game yesterday.. and its a LEFTY
damn
tough play for Billy on that, he’s learning though
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
Billy could've made the play
but it wasn’t easy, he almost recovered and grabbed it but he pretty much just bobbled the short hop
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly
I’d say yes, but oh well, I like Billy getting the experience on plays like that
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Damnit!
thats what Errors will do to you, bs
by I need more Esteban on Aug 20, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
Unbelievable
Get up to get a drink, Gordon throws one a way and costs us 2 runs. Brilliant
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another homer are you fking kidding me
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horrible pitching?
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The dropoff between Sizemore and the rest
of this lineup is kind of scary. Hopefully Meche can settle in now.
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3 runs too late
we’ll be lucky to score 4
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This is Zach Jackson
not Cliff Lee, we could get to him.
Really, really bad timing on that error by Gordon.
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It was Anthony Reyes last night.
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Oh, well then we must be fucked
It’s the 3rd inning.
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cue up another gidp
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it was that way last night also.
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wow
and it continues
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the lethal combination of
no patience, no power, and no speed
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I'd give a couple fingers
to get someone on this team with those first two skills.
Mr. Dunn, would you like a free tour of the K?
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all my baseball friends in real life would be willing to pay the royals money to sign dunn
just so i will stop ranting about how badly we need to sign him at every game i go to with them
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It's a pretty tantalizing thought
that we could have someone hit 40 home runs and actually get on base too. Heck, if we can shell out the dough for Guillen…why not Dunn?
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i think it's a must
knowing our luck though, he’d come to kc, half his homers would turn into warning track outs, he’d lose patience in our lineup and end up hitting .210/.330 with 19 homers
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Nah,
when Dunn hits them they stay hit. There are legit concerns about how well he’d age, but I for one would be willing to trade three good years for a couple bad ones as long as he keeps swatting the apple out of the park.
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5 baserunners in 3 innings, 1 run
OH THE INEFFICIENCY
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curse words
i’ve said more curse words following incompetent at-bats in the last few games than I’ve said in a long time… why are we hitting weak grounders? Give me a break.
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
would someone describe guiterrez's "fly out"?
because on gamecast it looked about 10 feet past the right-center wall.
well Mitch actually dove through the wall, came around the back of the stadium and came in through the clubhouse.
It’s prolly a webgem.
i've never seen mitch in person,
but i figured his arms were shorter than 10 feet, so either i was wrong about that or the ball actually was just hit to deep right.
Well,
that deep fly was a scare, but that was a good inning for Meche.
Runs? Could we…score some?
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YESSS
give him a 5 pitch inning!
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six pitch inning!
THIS KID IS A STUD
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Guillen's OBP coming into this game
was .289. He’s failed to reach base twice thus far. Whee. Also, he has taken 17 walks and K’ed 85 times. I’m not one to harp on high K numbers for guys who can work the count, but a 5:1 ratio is pretty frigging ugly.
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And I don't mean to defend Gordo here...
but you how people like to get on him for being a relative disappointment? His OBP is SIXTY points higher and Guillen makes a bajillion times more than him.
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why not defend Gordon?
He’s getting better!… almost every offensive catagorie he has done better in this year..
It makes some people prickly
but really my point wasn’t that Gordon is good, it’s that Guillen stinks thus far.
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Jackson threw 6 pitches that inning
3 were 88mph fastballs down the pipe
How can a major league team be so bad at hitting the baseball?
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You're talking about a team
that is voluntarily starting Mitch Maier in CF.
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Meche suddenly popping 96. Did he get mad? Or decide he has no help and he has to do it himself?
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he's been throwing that hard his last 3-4 starts
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Meche can have some giddyup
on that fastball. His stuff is really, really good.
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almost Josh Beckett good
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nah on paper his stuff really is that good
the glaring difference in them is fastball command, really
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I haven't looked up the data
but that sounds about right. no one doubts that Gil can bring it, it’s just hard to know where it’s going to go.
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i played against Beckett
when we were 14. He was throwing 88 then. Insane
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over / under for # of pitches Royals hitters loot at in this inning: 9.5
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions
gordo takes one down the pipe for strike 1
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swings at one at his ankles for strike 2
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HE DID IT HE GOT ON BASE VS A LEFTY
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YEAH MITCH BUNT THAT BASEBALL
wait am inute
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Oh awesome, let's bunt
Because you know how many outs this team can afford to give up.
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avilanche time
OPS 9000 against lefties
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checkbone/helmet flap....
he’s walking off… towel on the face.
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cleveland announcers keep saying
we’re experiencing murphy’s law…. guess so.
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
the royals are, or they are
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AVILANCHEEEEEEEEE
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I'd imagine that rattled him....
as I was typing that Avilanche went triple
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i'm happy to be wrong
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I'm happy too, because I think Gil might
stay in his groove now.
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make 'em pay!!!
of course you send Buck on that… when else are going to be able to score?
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
If Aviles fails as an every day player
he should always have a spot on somebodys bench to hit against lefties, hot damn
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So happy Esteban is playing every day again
Even when he makes an out he still tends to put up a way above average AB
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maybe
we should have bunted the runner to third? lol
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Why, we still have jose coming up!!!!!!1
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sarcastic font no longer works... we need to get that fixed.
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If we were playing for one more run,
then I’d agree with bunting there. I don’t see why we’d only play for one run, though.
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Mikey doing everything baby
Studly
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Mike Aviles is truly the missing link to our offense
When he is on, we score
Tonight: 2 runs scored, he knocked in the other 3 he didn’t score himself
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Only when you look at it that way
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Gordon versus righties and DDJ
are pretty cool, but Aviles is killing tonight.
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where has Jose gone?
will we ever see the Jose we saw in May and June again?
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe next year when he's not injured
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If we get to Soria, I wonder how rusty he will be tonight
The man hasn’t pitched in AGES
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hillman would LOVE
for meche to go 8 and throw Soria in the 9th with a 2 or 3 run lead (or a 10 run lead).
blew the sonuvabitch away
96
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I loooooooooove seeing Meche stay with the fastball there to Asdrubal
Earlier this year he would of tried to throw some offspeed bullshit. Meche realized he was late on the heat, and threw him 3 in a throw until he got a swing and a miss. Thank you John Buck
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that last one looked like it busted him inside
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
so did he bust himself or was it actually inside?
by CollininCalifornia on Aug 20, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
cfizzle, i use a hybrid of gamecast and mlb.com's Gameday
because Gameday shows the pitches’ speed and location better, but i try to look at Gamecast for where and how the ball is hit (and also for the stats, box score, etc). it involves a lot of clicking back and forth, but it think it’s worth it for the better pitch analysis.
Somehow this kid has given up 5 runs in 6 innings
But only thrown 83 pitches
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Nasty to Gutz
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I vote
Meche for Super King Awesome Hero.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
94-97, throwing the hard curve for strikes on command
and just out of the zone
filthy rating = A-
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Not to mention the Hr's are the only two hits
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Avilanche
How could you make an out?
tear
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the kid just isn't going to survive in the bigs hitting .326
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also has 98 pitches
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meche has thrown 97 pitches
including 3 to dellucci. needs to get out of 7th efficiently to stay for 8.
he's not pitching the 8th
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the representative
from southeast Kansas votes “aye”
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
SE Kansas rep
is open to the Tejeda Compromise.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I reject your
counteroffer. TPJ is a weapon of mass destruction and should be used only in the most dire of circumstances.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Manny Ramirez used his 2007 World Series bat
In the All Star Game. Just wow
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17 in a row
retired by the Chintangle. Meche is making a mess (see what I did there?) of the Indians in the last several innings.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
FOr what?
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OH, i knew that, I wondered if they said what got broken
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Nice start Ramon.
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Who Died And
Made Kelly F. Shoppach into Mike Piazza?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
I don't know, but it's pretty absurd
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Soria Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111117656596
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Indians have 3 hits in this game
All HR’s. That isn’t abnormal at all.
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Here comes the walk
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WEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHERE IS SORIA
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We've lost 10 out of our last 12
Our best starting pitcher just pitched 7 amazing innings
Our best reliever has been rotting in the bullpen for the past 2 weeks
Soria time?
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Sizemore is a lefty right?
I would of left Ramon in to walk him, or pitch to him. He has that great changeup which is super effective against lefties. Interesting
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I'll be a lot more
relaxed once this inning is over.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
They were definitely being all sorts of careful
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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CRAP ON
A HAT. SON OF A MOTHERLESS GOAT.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
ALL FOUR HITS FUCKING HOME RUNS
ARE YOU FUCKIGN KIDDING ME
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what the fuck does hillman expect when you pitch him once in like the past 20 days
him to be sharp?
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This is bulls***
four hits given up. 7 runs. Utter b.s. It makes it appear as though the Royal pitching corps sucked this game.
by powderbluepower on Aug 20, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
has to be one of the unluckiest pitching performances of all time
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ARGHHHHHHH RAGE
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wow, a walk ahomer and hbp from soria
GEE I WONDER IF HE’S RUSTY BECAUSE HE HASN’T PITCHED IN A DECADE
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Damn it
I leave for a couple innings and THIS is the best you guys can do without me?
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He's pitched once in the lsat 11 days
……………
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Yo Jack, you aren't getting the call at the knees
Stop trying
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Question: If we have to pull Soria...
WHO DO WE HAVE LEFT?!?
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
With this being OMGWTFBBQ?! day at Progressive field...
I have faith that Kip would strike out the side in the 9th
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
I went for a jog thinking this was in the bag the way Meche was throwing...
just got back. WHAT HAPPENED?
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Jesus Soria is getting torched
White flag
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well... that post that someone put up the other day about what we had to do to lose 100
Bad karma? I think we can do it playing like this…
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When your best pitcher faces 6 guys against a last place team
and can only retire one of them
Things are not going well
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Trey Hillman is a stupid turd
Luckily we have ROSS GLOAD COMING UP IN THE NEXT INNING.
Banny being Banny.
why?
What’d I miss to make this all go on him?
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Yikes, there goes the ERA and WHIP
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god, fulchino is a lock to let those two runs score
say goodbye to your sub two ERA soria
i’m out
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Maybe Soria is rusty?
I think someone said that higher up….
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Again.
4 outings in August. 1 outing in the past 11 days. Relief pitchers, need, to pitch.
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I know I'm beating a dead horse
but it’s cases like these that practically scream for Soria to be tried out in the rotation.
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preaching to the choir
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That had to have been Soria's
worst outing this year. It kinda hurts that the whole thing felt so avoidable.
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well....
I just checked our Idaho Falls Chukars boxscore hoping for a Hosmer miracle sighting…. I know he’s not supposed to play until Saturday…. was hoping for some hope.
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Better to go Moose hunting instead.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
they had the night off.... no moose out there
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This is a bleak day
Highlights:
Aviles
Meche
Lowlights:
Alex Gordon
Butler
Soria
Ramon
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Meche actually had one of his best outings
all year, in my opinion.
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It was really good.
It’s just hard not to get down on this team at this point. Watching these games is brutal, I think I’m going to have to take the next couple days off. The soria explosion really is the cherry on top.
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I know the feeling
This game really sucked. Winning with the great outing from Meche…and then losing with your two best relievers on the mound. Just ouch.
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Oh well. Maybe Greinke will have a good outing tomorrow.
Not that it even matters at this point. I really can’t believe how few brightspots there are on this team. Gordon continues to suck, Butler is sucking, Guillen is sucking, Hochevar is hurt, Bannister is sucking, Davies is Davies… Now Ramirez has been sucking somewhat, Soria looks human, etc. Ugly.
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Gordon has fielded badly over the last week,
but at least he’s hit better in August. All else, I agree. This was a tough loss. A REALLY tough loss.
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SWINGING STRIKE AT A BALL IN THE EYES!
GOOD JOB MIGGY!
Now all we need is a wild “K” by Gordon and we can put this season in a nutshell in one inning.
Banny being Banny.
This team is not improving.
It is just as bad as it was last year and I am seeing nothing but regression from a lot of our youngsters. There are a few bright lights, but 2010 at this point is a liberal prediction for contention.
Unless we shitcan Hillman by 2010.
Banny being Banny.
I don't think Hillman is the difference
between us and the White Sox and Twinkies.
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No, but he is a moron.
I explained that the talent isn’t there to contend in 2010, and decision making moves like the Jose Guillen signing scare me, but Hillman has made horrible decisions this year and I would like to see him gone before I give the vote of confidence to 2010.
Banny being Banny.
well, this team is so bad that any decision by Trey would be considered the wrong one
because no one can do anything right…. even if it looks good on paper it blows up.
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I think this is a great first year for Trey. There’s nothing to work with, he just has to learn to run a team. He’ll have a bunch of things he’ll do different next year. Part of the learning curve.
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not great as in results, but as in working with this team.
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He doesn't understand righty/lefty matchups
As shown by the gross misuse of Yimmy Gobble.
Banny being Banny.
Well, that was quick and painless!
Let’s see…another bad Royals game, check. Yankees won, check. Baltimore killed whatever’s left of Clay Buchholz, check. The Cardinals are winning, check. Those gd cubs will probably pull of some bullshit happy day win, check. I’d say this day was a total loss.
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Postgame to follow
for all your complaining needs. I know I’ll be there.
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Shoppack Home Run
Did no one else notice that ball was foul? I saw the replay on Sports Time Ohio and it clearly shows the ball hitting the handrail just to the left of the foul pole. Also were we getting squeezed in the 8th? It seems like Buck turned around and talked to the ump a lot that inning. It seemed we had to groove pitches just to get a strike.
I’m so sad…
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