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Kansas City Royals at Cleveland Indians, Aug 21, 2008 12:05 PM EDT


We now return to the first chapter of Sister Carrie, when I last posted this in an overflow thread, we were just wrapping up the third paragraph.

Caroline, or Sister Carrie, as she had been half affectionately termed by the family, was possessed of a mind rudimentary in its power of observation and analysis. Self-interest with her was high, but not strong. It was, nevertheless, her guiding characteristic. Warm with the fancies of youth, pretty with the insipid prettiness of the formative period, possessed of a figure promising eventual shapeliness and an eye alight with certain native intelligence, she was a fair example of the middle American class--two generations removed from the emigrant. Books were beyond her interest--knowledge a sealed book. In the intuitive graces she was still crude. She could scarcely toss her head gracefully. Her hands were almost ineffectual. The feet, though small, were set flatly. And yet she was interested in her charms, quick to understand the keener pleasures of life, ambitious to gain in material things. A half-equipped little knight she was, venturing to reconnoitre the mysterious city and dreaming wild dreams of some vague, far-off supremacy, which should make it prey and subject--the proper penitent, grovelling at a woman's slipper.

"That," said a voice in her ear, "is one of the prettiest little resorts in Wisconsin."

"Is it?" she answered nervously.

The train was just pulling out of Waukesha. For some time she had been conscious of a man behind. She felt him observing her mass of hair. He had been fidgetting, and with natural intuition she felt a certain interest growing in that quarter. Her maidenly reserve, and a certain sense of what was conventional under the circumstances, called her to forestall and deny this familiarity, but the daring and magnetism of the individual, born of past experiences and triumphs, prevailed. She answered.

He leaned forward to put his elbows upon the back of her seat and proceeded to make himself volubly agreeable.

"Yes, that is a great resort for Chicago people. The hotels are swell. You are not familiar with this part of the country, are you?"

"Oh, yes, I am," answered Carrie. "That is, I live at Columbi City. I have never been through here, though."

"And so this is your first visit to Chicago," he observed.

All the time she was conscious of certain features out of the side of her eye. Flush, colourful cheeks, a light moustache, grey fedora hat. She now turned and looked upon him in full, the instincts of self-protection and coquetry mingling confusedly in her brain.

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Royals lineup:
Aviles 2B
German LF
DeJesus CF
Guillen DH
Butler 1B
Gordon 3B
Buck C
Teahen RF
Pena SS

P Zack Attack

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What's Up With

This start time? It’s 0805 here.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We have to hurry up and lose

So we can get on our charter and head back to KC.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1205 in Cleveland, they start afternoon games an hour earlier than most teams for some reason.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Aug 21, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone checked Cleveland area hospitals?

I have to assume the only way Ross Gload is not in the lineup is because he is on his death bed, no?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sixth!

or third! if it’s just a head count

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i mean fourth!

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gamedaying today at school.

Is this game on TV?

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In my darkest hours, I never thought it would reach this point this late in the season

Jose Guillen current 2008 VORP: -0.2

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was before his walk, though

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no wonder he doesn't walk much

he knows he’ll just get doubled up by the next batter.

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

looks like he has been rubbing off on the younger guys, Butler might have just caught up with him in the Royal’s GIDP lead.

Although Butler was ahead in VORP before the game with a stunning 0.2

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great philosophy....

Gordon with another walk.

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to get his ass chewed out in the dugout

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think JoGui is investing in any of the younger guys?

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In last nights game, Bob Davis made the comment

that if you combine Zach Jackson’s first and last name you get “Zackson”

So from now on Bob Davis will be known as “Beavis”

by Shooter on Aug 21, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Zanke!

This is fun:

Luchover
Gilche
Kyvies
Brannister
Jock
Davesus
Markelanek
Biltler

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indian announcer

mocking Guillen’s effort to break up double play. Said he must have been tired.

by gordonrules on Aug 21, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm on Gameday

How was the attempt?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

said he

took a couple of steps a laid down. Literally.

by gordonrules on Aug 21, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a nap?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if so,

that would be a dirt nap

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to have

TPJ in there to lose the ball in the sun on a pop up.

by gordonrules on Aug 21, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+D

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've got a monster defense today

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ NOW! ok.... E6

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Selfish Zack

Getting a strike out so that TPJ can’t redeem himself by singlehandedly turning an impossible double play…

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna drive to KC

and volunteer to teach these guys how to catch popups

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll go with you. I call hitting the fungo!!

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rusty Kuntz bubbly personality just doesn't seem to be working

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which personality will you use?

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure?

That might take time from valuble bunt and dunt defense practice.

Probably want to check with Trey first.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grand Slam !!!

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday says triple?

was it a bomb?

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all thanks to the

defensive elitist TPJ…..

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does it matter?

3 runs for Cliff Lee vs. a lineup that features TpJ is too much

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was hit

to the warning track in the gap

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reality of this teams REAL ability is setting in.

There is a reason run differential is a important stat. KC finally is showing that ability.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go to Bellevue and pick Greinke up

I figure he’ll be there sometime next week.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can you pick me up too?

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But how many runs will TPJs glove save us?

So far, he’s down 3.

Perhaps his bat will make up the difference?

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, the lunch bell is getting ready to ring...

I’ve got to go eat a school lunch. Nachos today. Meat and cheese on chips.. yum.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So, uh

Will TpJ make up for it by putting the ball in play at least?

I wager on a K

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A 3 pitch

K swiging on a ball in the dirt, and he will run to 3rd instead of 1st, ala the token tee-baller that runs the wrong way

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

would someone remind me

why is TPJ on any major league roster?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“And the fans are pelting the field with little mini TpJ heads that have been removed from the bobbleheads!”

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dayton lost a bet

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be a very bad bet

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did he bet before he signed Jose Guillen?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

out of a backup SS,

i can accept a K where he fights off some pitches and makes the pitcher work (7 pitches). not ideal, obviously, but much less frustrating that watching him hack three times and back to the bench

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its weird

It looks like he’s trying to hit home runs. I mean, at least if you look at light hitting infielders of the 80s, many of them were still pesky and could fight pitches off. TPJ just has such a big looping swing – it seems like he should at least have double power, but for whatever reason, he doesn’t.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

at least if his hacking nature produced some big hits (Guillen, anyone?) we could cut him some slack, but TPJ’s swing is a lose/lose situation.

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Comeback Starts

Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 21, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Home Runs the Indians are just a team full of rally killers

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shin-soo Choo

is a cool name at least

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw that

There’s a good chance the Indians are going to lose him for two years so he can serve in the Korean army.

Otherwise, I’d love for us to acquire him – their outfield is a bit crowded

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's crazy

he was a pretty good prospect before his tommy john surgery

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I don't think the Indians are that bad...

or did you mean the other team?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've had enough for the day

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I live

in Oklahoma so I see alot of Ranger games, does anyone else think the Rangers will get to the playoffs before the Royals?

by gordonrules on Aug 21, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mostly because the Royals have a TON of catching up to do with their whole system

not just in the minors, but their coaching, their player development, not to mention the actual players (for instance Josh Hamilton plays for them, Alex Gordon plays for us).

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, now the rally starts!!!!!

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Clarifications from the radio booth

While out at lunch, I heard:

Guillen did the RIGHT thing on the DP grounder – he was backing up to avoid being tagged, thus he made the DP a bit tougher for the 2Basemen.

Pena was the only Royal infielder NOT wearing sunglasses on the popup he dropped.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What if they got broken and he had to pitch later?

Do you really want him to risk it?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for the team, yes

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am watching on MLB.tv

and I must disagree with the booth on the Guillen play. He ran towards the second baseman, then he fell down. He should have just stopped a lot sooner. It’s probably a moot point though; he would have just been in a run-down after they threw to first to get Butler.

The Indians announcers are being pretty hard on TPJ’s choice of glasses. It’s pretty funny.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one one hand,

are we surprised that he hasn’t prepared correctly?

on the other…seriously?! This is your liveleyhood, and you can’t make sure you have some prescription sunglasses for day games? Or contacts and sunglasses. This is not some sort of newly-emerging technology.

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he didn't play compeitive ball until he was 18!

He’s going to be behind in some areas. He just needs 2-3 more years to iron it all out.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't say those kinds of things, even in jest

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. They are really making it hard to watch.

I can’t remember the last time I managed to watch more than 2 innings at a stretch lately. And it seems like every time I do, I’m compelled to turn it off and go do something less unpleasant (like mow the lawn or wax my eyebrows).

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morally,

we’re only down 1 run, because unearned runs wouldn’t count in a fair and moral world.

SIncerely,

Barak

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

are you proposing change we can live with?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Indians don't understand morality

So we should just bomb the shit out of the Indian dugout instead.

Sincerely,

John McCain

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It looks like there are weapons of mass destruction in the dugout

quick, tell the players union and the rest of the of the league to F off, capture and kill coach Wedge and watch the pitchers and batters murder each other or the next 10 years

Sincerely,

George Bush

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a second,

This story sounds familiar…

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would just result in

us getting a worse draft pick.

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WE DON'T NEGOTIATE WITH THE ENEMY!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

the Royals should start using waterboarding to speed up the contract negotiation process.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to see how this is gonna get better this year.

The pitching staff is way overstretched, the defense continues to get worse, and our hitting has been nonexistent.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you forgot

“the stadium is a mess with the construction”, “the concessions and parking are too high”, and “the city has tuned out in anticipation of football season”

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whose season will be worse?

The Royals or the Chiefs?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHIEFS!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals

I’m betting the over on the Chiefs, and I’d suggest the same from everyone else….

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 pitch inning

call the airport, start warming up those engines…

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm calling it now

Another no-hitter, and then this stretch CAN truly rival the 12 gamer earlier in the year.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you sound like some of those gloom and doom liberals I've been hearing about

we can do it. All we need to do is drill for oil in the outfield. All of our problems will disappear.

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not as insane as it sounds

how long until Jose Guillen’s corpse turns into oil again?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let the countdown begin

769 days until his contract expires.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Braves owe Dayton

As long as they don’t send back Jeff Francouer (now WAY DMGM/Trey could resist starting him every day in the bigs)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe so

but we won’t get any outfield oil prospects for fifteen years. so much for contending in 2010…

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's only a short term solution

We need to move towards alternatives to the outfield. Maybe even towards alternative sports in general

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

The Royals can definitely use an alternative to the outfield

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed

we are going to great lengths to avoid actual blogging about the game.

Sad Times

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok... back from lunch

What’s the score? 5-0…. insurmountable…..

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a defeatist attitude

We will conduct a surge in the sixth inning. The surge will be successful. If you disagree, you must be part of the “blame the Royals first” crowd and you don’t support our players.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guillen is to Royals as McCain is Republicans

“Yeah,I got more money, but the Twins begged me to sign with them. BEGGED me.”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can never succeed

if we have a “losing mentality”. We should ignore reason and if we have the will to win, we will.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a bunch of whiners - Phil Graham

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5th... one to soon. I really do think we'll come back on Clee.

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by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good inning from Zack at least

baby steps…

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What is the liklihood of a no-hitter?

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

50% chance for a no hitter

and i’m being absolutely serious

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the odds now?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but Jason Smith is ph'ing for Gordon

how does that mess with your prediction?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what happened

did Gordon get hurt or something? Trey not like the way he took that walk?

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I told you to shave those sideburns!!!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sick of Gordon's entitled attitude

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is no true measure of grit

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF? Gordon's back again?

The Eric Chavez’s comparisons are getting a bit scarry at this point

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Alex

Should have to post a 130 OPS+ season with a Gold Glove before he’s worth of an Eric Chavez comparison.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

those aren't the scary ones

more inability to hit lefties, bad back

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

odds teahen walks and

Tony Pena Jr. hits a grand slam

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one over infinity

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or darn close to 0%

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't be too careful

Injury risk on a sunny 83 degree day, ya know

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Existentially

This game is not even taking place.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a butterfly

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

a butterfly’s dream?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ

RBI, the world is coming to an end

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the emergence of

the twelfth Imam. Jesus is coming back too. The neocons and Ahmadinejad will have to duke it out for eternal supremacy.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

against lefties, TPJ has

been only a D- hitter (instead of F- – against normals)

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morally winning now!

Just when I think I’m out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!!!

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

morally, we are kicking their butts

wait a minute, this started with an error…..
have to go read my morality meter

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes, we are morally ahead 2-1!

fourth place will be ours

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we've got them right where we want them

lull them to sleep with some un-earned runs, then STRIKE!

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now that we have Alex Gordon out of the game

We are in a much better position to win.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right!

i totally missed that. the strategy is just so cunning.

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Porcupine defense

We lulled them to sleep by curling up in a fetal position and hoping they would fall on our quills. So far, so good.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

better than the armadillo defense

curl up in a ball then jump straight up when the semi is over us

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

strategy

Every once in a while the “let’s give them a big inning so that their pitcher gets cold” strategy has to work.

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giving up three runs to the Royals

Should be enough to disqualify you for the Cy Young.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He'd appreciate the irony

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we fire Hillman?

If this team continues to lose 5 out of 6 down the stretch? Seriously this whole coaching staff has to go. I think they’ve demonstrated enough ineptitude that we know what we have. And don’t tell me about upheaval. Upheaval from what?

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're not giving

the surge enough time to work. Hillman will be in the dugout for 100 years.

by KCBear on Aug 21, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is Halliburton in charge of the rennovation?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, really?

Casey Stengel himself couldn’t manage this weak offense to score any more runs.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are u serious or messing around?

If you think this team is bad because of coaching then you are crazy.. Look at our talent, if you think it’s anything but the lack of talent you are way off.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

must we say again....

any team with talent the manager is amazing….. any team with, the manager MUST GO!!!!

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Time for gloveflip

instead

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone know if Gordon had back problems in college?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't say with certainty

but I did follow him in college, and I don’t think he ever had back problems. Is that for sure why they took him out?

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, but that's why he was out the other day

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Back Problems are caused

by the weight of our expectations

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 21, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did Greinke go to 1st three times?

what for? (i mean other than obviously trying to pick off Choo)

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i figure he’s not giving a reliever time to warm up

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a problem with this

1-2, then 2-2 count, with two strikes, and ZG throws FOUR PICK OFF’S to 1st!!!

Get the fucking batter! Quit worrying about the runner!

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got back from class.

Nice to see the defense totally shit the bed today giving the Indians 4 runs. Poor Zack – get out of this town while you can man. Demand a trade.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone know

why we would call up gathright instead of a pitcher, and then play German in LF?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Joey hasn't joined the team yet

Its a pretty early game.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday

Gameday doesn’t have Joey listed as an available batter.

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it does, however,

have Maier available.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and

other than the fact that he was batting like .180 in AAA.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of not bringing up a pitcher,

does anybody know who’s pitching this weekend?

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tejeda's in now

so he won’t be spot starting.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hillman

has stated multiple times the Wells won’t be a starter

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then it's definitely Davies...

Who else do we have.

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by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davies can't be recalled until the 25th

unless Mahay or someone else goes on the DL. Gator came up for Maier. Newman came up for Hoch.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh wait,

I think maybe they can bring up Davies early because Hoche was injured, but I guess we still need one more.

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duckworth is also a possibility

Not a good one, but he is a possibility.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jinx!!!!!!!!

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and god forbid

we have to

 DFA Gload, Gathright, Pena, Smith, Fuchino, etc…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe they would have to make room on the 40 man roster

if they bring up Ducky

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

Oh and he sucks too. That’s another good point.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, well, there is that...

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Fulchino

or we make some move tomorrow night.

I guess TPJ gets to pitch a couple times this weekend.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davies on Saturday?

Is a possibility if Mahay goes on the DL

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah,

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't he

come up anyway since Hochevar went on the DL? Or, did we burn possibility already?

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Newman!

you gotta say it like Seinfeld.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think one has to replace the other

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right,

we’ve got to make room for him on the roster, but I thought the problem with Davies pitching this weekend in the first place was that he had to spend at least 10 days (or whatever) before being called up again.

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Pimental

is the only other starter in AAA that is on the 40-manand not hurt.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

did he pick him off?

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DDJ on first

the adventure begins

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's got to be scared.

With Guillen and Butler coming up, he’s got to know he’s going to get swept up in a double play eventually.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be a good reason to have him steal a base

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put jose on the DL

just do it

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That

wouldn’t be fair to Hoagie.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for a Butler blast!!!!!!

riding the bus to victory

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Alberto Callaspo is not driving this bus

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe that is the problem.....

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals Pride

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What have we done more of this series?

Hit into double plays, give up unearned runs, or give up home runs?

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mindboggling

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knocks against management

1) Constantly run ourselves out of innings, make horrible % sacrifcies at horrible times.

2) Cannot seem to grasp simple defensive concepts like getting out of the way of each other. You have to admit we are the worst team in baseball at this – and this isn’t a reflection on coaching I don’t know what is. Even untalented guys know how to call each other off.

3) In love with TPJ and Ross Gload, Aviles had to absolutely nuts to win his job.

4) Failure to develop Butler and Gordon as good major-league hitters, and most other hitters seem to have regressed.

5) Refusal to ever use Soria more than one inning, painful use of Gobble and Peralta at horrible times.

We need more talent, agreed. But that doesn’t mean you can’t still evaluate the manager.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously?

1) Hillman doesnt run the bases & Kunts is one of the most respected BR coaches in the game.

2) Hillman, Torre, Stengel, none of them can polish turds

3) In love w/ Gload, the TpJ could have EASILY cam e grom GMDM

4) Development isn’t made at MLB level, its’s made at MiLB level

5) sigh

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Kunts, is a good typo

by GoBabies!! on Aug 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it Kould be worse

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: seriously?

1) Have you not been watching this season, particularly late in close games?

2) Are you sersiouly trying to contend that you cannot coach guys not to run into each other and drop routine flies? Wtf do you think coaches do?

3) possible

4) Yes, but it’s continued at the big league level, in teaching guys how to adjust to big league pitching, adjust to pitcher’s adjustments, etc. Butler and Gordon have regressed.

5) You can argue this either way. But a lot of people think it’s a pretty big waste to hold your dominant closer until the 9th to a religious extreme.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

“Are you sersiouly trying to contend that you cannot coach guys not to run into each other and drop routine flies? Wtf do you think coaches do?”

That’s done at the lower levels. At this level, either you know how to catch a pop up or you don’t. You can try, but you’re probably not going to teach a 26 year old man how to catch a pop up.

EVERY manager in baseball stresses fundamentals in spring training. But I think Rob Neyer said it best when he suggested that maybe players that are not good at hitting and fielding aren’t going to be good at fundamentals. Not because their manager is bad, but because…maybe they’re just bad ballplayers?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

defense again

“EVERY manager in baseball stresses fundamentals in spring training. But I think Rob Neyer said it best when he suggested that maybe players that are not good at hitting and fielding aren’t going to be good at fundamentals. Not because their manager is bad, but because…maybe they’re just bad ballplayers?”

When Wathan was the Royals coach, we had a very tight defense. When McRae took over, we still had a very good defense. But as the year wore on we started to get sloppier and sloppier. And by the next year we were pretty bad defensively – with many of the same players. Good coaches teach a lot of little details. Just like anything. People who are good at their jobs usually don’t let the little things slide.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As players get older

They also tend to decline defensively.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is that what happened to B-error-a?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why do teams even have coaches?

Other than 3B/1B/manager. Because according to you guys all players are already developed by the time they get to the big leagues, and coaches have no impact on how well they play or future development from then on.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To keep players from violating curfew

I think coaches are wildly overrated. They are the manager’s buddy. They don’t really affect performance all that much IMHO.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

use common sense

Do you know of any job where you’re as good as your ever going to get after doing it for 3 years? Ok maybe janitor. But something where you’re at the bleeding edge of human performance, like a professional athlete?

I’ve been a computer programmer for 10 years and I still learn a ton every year, and not just because things are new, general programming stills. But you think when a player is 21/22 that’s as good as he’s going to get, and a good/bad coach can’t make much difference?

I know you can use stats to predict ranges of how a player’s career will map out. But those just show aggregate trends. They don’t show individual stuff that happened to that player, especially developmental type stuff in adjusting to the big leagues.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying

There is nothing to be learned. But the fundamentals of the game have to be learned at an early age. They’re not going to be learned at the MLB level.

Now, there are things players can learn at the MLB level. But I don’t believe catching a pop up is one of them.

Besides, as many others have pointed out, what do you think Trey should do that he isn’t already doing? For all we know they run pop up drills every day. Maybe they’re just not good at it. I could work on hitting a 95 mph fastball all day every day, but I probably wouldn’t ever get good at it.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are still mostly talent issues

1. When players GIDP all the time and make base-running mistakes then, yeah, we are running ourselves out of innings.
2. Coaches have to teach major leaguers to call for the ball? Get real.
3. No argument
4. Can’t argue too much, but sometimes it’s more up to the hitter than a coach, either they are great hitters or just average.
5. Um, did you watch the game last night? Yeah, Hillman brought him in with 1 out in the 8th, Soria blew it. It sucked.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

defense

2. Coaches have to teach major leaguers to call for the ball? Get real.

When they repeatedly fail to do so? Are you HONESTLY saying the coach should just sit back and take it because major league-ers should know better?

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But how do you know that he hasn't?

How do you know what the coaches are stressing? For all we know, he talks about it every day, I sure heard him talking about it on the pregame show yesterday before the game. So what if you knew that he was preaching it and then the players were still not executing? I just get sick of people making assumptions about things when they have no idea if they are true.

IMHO, coaching in baseball is not that important, I think many sabermetric guys on this site have explained that managers account for +/- 3-4 wins a season.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

scratch that, not coaching

but managing, coaching can be valuable for adjustments and the like, but for the most part, either players are good or not.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know from the results I see

I’m not the only one who marvels at how the Royals continue to make routine popups look like madcap adventures. Ask Frank White.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so if a coach stresses it

then there is no way that it won’t be executed? You do not KNOW from any results. Until you get into the clubhouse and onto the field before games then you won’t. Just like I don’t KNOW either, but I won’t make judgements about things I don’t know about.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams are ultimately measured by results

One outfield flub could be an anomoly. When your team is consistently the worst at it, that could be a strong indicator that fundamentals aren’t being stressed enough.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or that the players aren't very good

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha except

that is the one thing Hillman has talked about ever since he’s been hired. People have made fun of him about how he wanted to bring the Japanese fundamentals to our club. Seriously man, a manger doesn’t matter that much! Look at Joe Torre’s career.

Our players aren’t that good!

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sabermetrics is overreaching on that one

“IMHO, coaching in baseball is not that important, I think many sabermetric guys on this site have explained that managers account for +/- 3-4 wins a season.”

Skills erode over time if not reinforced properly. How the hell does sabermetrics measure that? I agree with a lot of the sabermetrics stuff, but trying to asses manager wins is pretty silly.

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skills erode overtime

Because players get older. Players decline in fielding for the same reasons they decline in hitting. They’re just not as athletic as they were in their younger days.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that explains why Butler and Gordon

are worse hitters than last year?

by suzzer on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're "pushing"

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is Gordon worse than last year?

Butler, that is debateable, I think he played in a lot fewer games last year so I don’t know how to measure that. I did expect a lot more from him this year.

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Players will often go through variations throughout a career

Ups and downs, but generally they will peak around age 26-28, and decline after that. Simply because Gordon and Butler will go through one down year doesn’t disprove my general point that skills erode because players get older. Its obvious if you’ve looked at any player career stats – they tend to decline over time. Otherwise, players would never retire.

Besides, Gordon has improved this year.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement of the season

if he can’t consistently hit the ball in the air he has little to no value in a major league lineup

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He should be fined every time he hits it on the ground

Time to develop an upper cut swing, Billy. Your GIDP is killing us.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Send him down again,

then he will come up hot again,

then slump again,

THEN maybe,

just MAYBE,

we can fire Barnett in the offseason

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was a coincidence

that he went to AAA, hit the shit out of the ball, then did the same when he first came back up.

It’s the hitting coach’s job to help ensure that slumps like this don’t happen

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you overestimate how much influence they actually have on the hitters

Same for pitching coaches

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think hitting coach

Is about the most useless job in the world. Unless your name is Charlie Lau.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another idea for Billy

Perhaps we could petition for a new rule that allows for a pinch runner to be assigned upon contact with the baseball.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we don't need

to find Gator any more playing time.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, then...

surgically tranplant Gator’s legs onto Billy’s body. Franken-Royal would be a hell of a player.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well, at least we get to watch tejada pitch

He’s quickly transformed into one of my favorite players on this team. He’s going to be a valuable part of the back end of the bullpen next year IMO.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's too damn talented to struggle like this

We’ve seen the talent last year,

and the beginning of this year,

and after returning from AAA for a couple of weeks.

What’s the common thread?

After he’s been hitting for a while, then he slumps, and nobody knows how to help him minimize the slump.

FIRE BARNETT

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're blaming the wrong person here for Butler's struggles.

I think we should maybe blame… Butler.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+47

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's true

then why do we have a minor league? Why do we have coaches at all? If young players are supposed to inately cope with struggles at this level, why don’t we have Hosmer in the lineup today?

It’s a growth process. Both Gordon and Butler didn’t have enough time at lower levels and aren’t getting the support they need. Personally, I think they should get both guys a personal hitting coach that does nothing but work with them. In leieu of that, Barnett should be spending 100% of his time with these two and stop wasting time on TPJ.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personal hitting coach

http://www.macnseitz.com/

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

http://www.tom-emanski-baseball-videos.com/

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who the hell are you going to sign that can coach Butler better than he can?

This guy has been labeled a prodigy, do you really think some washed up former player is going to magically make him into the next Manny Ramirez? If he wants to succeed at this level, he’s going to have to adapt when pitchers adapt to him. It’s a learning process, but for some reason I doubt there is any one person we can just swoop up that will magically make Billy Butler a major league force. Aviles has made the adjustment, why can’t Butler? Does Barnett not get the praise for Aviles success? I don’t get it

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 21, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that

Butler and Gordon may have gotten here too early, Gordon moreso, but both have shown the ability to destroy in the minor leagues. Failing at this point is on them.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see what you have started?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its all your fault!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back to the game

I can’t believe it, they stole a base on Buck

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he get his throw past the pitchers mound without bouncing?

Progress!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who's winning?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we are

because our hearts are pure

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

easy to see why Tejeda failed as a starter

he’s been very good for us – but even then, he is just wild enough to throw too many pitches, even when he is getting guys out.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's at

31 pitches already.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's something positive

we’ve worked our way back up to drafting 5th next June.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they can advertise that

“Come out to the K and root the team on to the number 1 draft position”. Lemons into lemonade and such. It might spark a little interest, and at least the fans and the org would be pulling toward the same goal.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Strasburg Sweepstakes!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who would we have to offer to get Sizemore in a trade?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least German and Peralta

Maybe Lubanski.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe Gathright.

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by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so, no chance - heh?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greinke+

other pieces.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

partial ownership of the royals

 but it still might not get it done

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evan Longoria or Hanley Ramirez

Maybe if we are lucky, Cleveland would take either David Wright or Albert Pujols.

by Gopherballs on Aug 21, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sizemore?

Perhaps DDJ and a really good prospect, such as Rosa or Cortes

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would say

It would take DJ, Rosa (or Cortes) and Moustakas

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

We can replace DJ, we don’t know if Moustakas will ever get here. And Rosa/Cortes are an injury away from being worthless.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

20,000

TPJ bobbleheads

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I sense they may be available

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a little nervous for that game.

If we continue on this pace and that game starts with a couple bad innings, I can see some kind of fan protest involving those peices of shit collector’s items. Something akin to bat night at the White Sox.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or record night in Cleveland

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That didn't work

Foray into new technology. Should end strike at “shit”.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, CD's would fly much further

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

There was a game once in Milwaukee where they had a cheap beer special and gave away mini bats to the first 20,000 or so. They had to stop the game due to a riot.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Almost as bad an idea

As “Battery day” at a Cleveland Browns game.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bucket Of Tequila

Night!!!!!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's every night, baby!

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, here we go

Waiting for another CLE error to kickstart a 3 unearned run inning

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that moral?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're already leading the

moral game 2-2, so we can spare a moral run.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on now

think big – 4 unearned runs so we lead – morally, spiritually, and run-wisely

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what she said

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee leaving nothing to chance!

he contributes the error himself!

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

este beat me to it

by CollininCalifornia on Aug 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's good!

It will balance out the back pain on the other half of his body

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sizemore is BY FAR better than any player or prospect in the royals system

CC Sabathia actually said he is the best player in baseball

He has the same numbers as Hanley Ramirez which is more impressive doing it in the AL

Hanley would hit .250 in the AL like every other national league team, god that league is so weak!

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Aug 21, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I were a cynic

here’s where I would point out that we (allegedly) could have had a Youkalis/Shoppach combo for Beltran instead of Teahen/Buck

But I’m no longer cynical so much as I am just plain bitter

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or

Navarro/Cano

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how did you do that?

teach me to be less cynical, master

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

don’t forget about Mike Wood!

by I need more Esteban on Aug 21, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are throwing at us!

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sadly,

bench is too thin to pinch hit for TPJ.

If Greinke hadn’t pitched, I would have said pinch hit him for TPJ, and then Zack could play short (he did it in high school)

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why couldn't he have just struck out?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pena OPS update

.393!

You read that right.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I constantly find myself hoping TPJ will strike out when there are men on base and fewer than 2 outs.

by Trey Hillman's Chin on Aug 21, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peralta's in!

We’re saved!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Baby step noticed today

We’ve only allowed ONE homerun!

That’s a vast improvement on this road trip!

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

game's not over...

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My jinx powers working

at full strength.

Sorry, Jo-El

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When they make a Joel Peralta bobble head

they should make his head swing side to side. Cause that’s what I always see him doing watching homeruns go past him.

by Shooter on Aug 21, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's funny

funny sad fucking terrible funny.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or just put it on backward

No one gives up HRs quite like Joel.

Of course, we should have known it would be bad kharma to bring in J. Peralta to face J. Peralta. What are the chances?

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

messed up

the space time continuum.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

infinity over one

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they would all be wearing hats, for one thing

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the HR subject

In this 14 game skid, we have hit a grand total of 3 Homeruns.

I’d look up how many we have yielded, but vomit from a Chinese lunch is extra hard to clean off your desk

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The correct answer

is eleventy billion

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jokes on them though

Home runs are rally killers!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silver lining

We aren’t going to get no-hit today. Some were concerned earlier.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just tuning in

could someone explain the Sister Carrie thing above? is this the Previously Untitled RR Project?

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone?

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, rally time now!!!!!!!!!

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, I looked it up anyway

Since August 4, including today:

Opponents: 22 HRs
KC: 3 HRs

This 9 game road trip:

Opp: 20 HRs
KC: 2HRs

Last 4 games only:

Opp: 13 HRs
KC: 1 HR

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope you at least covered up your keyboard

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is disgusting

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many productive outs have we made though?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Maier

taking one to the dome count?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't an out, so sadly, no

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe we need to preach

putting you head on the ball more.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey!

2 on nobody out. Good chance to score here.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

two bat flips in a row

guesses? who will hit into the DP, Guillen or The Bus?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DJ.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guillen and Butler

Tied for the team lead in GIDP with 15. It’ll be quite a battle.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how did Aviles get to third?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

single

andvanced to 3rd on German single

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This team has me inventing a new adjective

“Generalsesque”

in honor of the Harlem Globetrotters long-time “rival”

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least the Generals

Knew the fundamentals!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not quite there yet

with the Generals, you knew they were going to lose
I still have the silly hope that the Royals might win again

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Generels won

six times and lost over 13,000!

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roughly

The same as the Royals under Baird

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, I give up to your sabermatic superiority

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was DDJ's hit at least hard?

man, can we get a break?

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday says

“…lined into unassisted double play, first baseman Ryan Garko.”

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a bright note

We have an excellent chance to out-hit Cleveland again today – just like we did last night!

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first and third, no outs....

no runs – we suck

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When was Guillen's last meaningful at bat?

I seriously can’t remember the last time he contributed at all.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, he's had meaningful at bats

He’s just failed to produce in any of them.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hello, Newman

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

could be worse

Pumpkin head could be in

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Newman won’t be starting this weekend.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Newman is in

sorry, I can’t figure out how to use the Seinfeld font

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Neuman?

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i believe it would be the sarcastic font

and all you would write is “Newman!”

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday shows

6 straight fastballs to Guillen, all either 94 or 95.

Not a good sign when your cleanup batter doesn’t even require an occasional breaking pitch be thrown to retire him.

And yet, he is often cited as having the best batspeed on this team.

That’s scary. Shades of Reggie Sanders, only Guillen is declining at a much younger age than Sanders?

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buddyball beat me to the joke

I was going to say, “at least he’s not Fulchino”

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WWPHD

Would Fulchino have walked Jamey Carrol?

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that might be too long for a bracelet - WWOPHD

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamey Carroll's face

Bothers me.

Also, he both of his names are girls names.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and if you glance real fast

he looks like Pudge.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the human Avatar

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.

8 straight balls.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say trade Rosa or Cortes for Dan Uggla, spend 20m a year on Dunn

I want to see someone who can hit a gd home run

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

But Uggla can't catch a pop fly!

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so he would fit right in this roster

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by buddyball on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

beat me to it.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

then he would fit in perfectly

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

then he would fit in perfectly

(just wanted to make sure we all said it)

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hillman

would have Sizemore bunting here

: )

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

incorrect

Sizemore would have already left the game for a defensive replacement

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by marbotty on Aug 21, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay! Newman!

Hey L2Dad, thanks for bringing up the fact that we had only given up one HR today.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This team could sure use an offday

actually, they could use 180 off days.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Newman pitch count update

18 pitches. 7 strikes. O outs.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walking Jamey Carroll Cost 6 pitches

Walking Cabrera Cost 4 pitches
Serving up a HR to Sizemore Priceless

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.

Is there no one that can pitch in AAA better than Newman? Or are we just sacrificing him to the Gods so we don’t have to phychologicall scar any pitcher who is actually part of the future? It’s inhumane to keep running this guy out there.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope we are doing the latter

none of the young guys is really ready, and if you bring them up, they probably get shelled. then, you’ve wasted an option to send them back down for next season, and what do you have to show for it? and extra win or two in a lost season?

by benfunke on Aug 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HR update

Last 14 games:

Opp 24 HRs
KC 3 HRs

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sadly, we can't even put TPJ in to pitch

because of the Gordon and Maier injuries

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

why not?

We have German, Smith, and Aviles to play all three spots.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stay hot CLE

Grady needs to bat again, he’s a 2B short of the cycle

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

with kila kila struggling now in triple A

what big FA signings WILL BE NEEDED to get this team to contend next year?

I think we need TWO impact bats and ONE impact starter….

bringing in someones like Raul Ibanez and Rocco Baldelli….hell why doesn’t dayton moore sign Brian and Marcus Giles???

It would be great to see Brad Penny or Oliver Perez in a Royals uniform but hell I’ll take Carl Pavano

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm Progress Stinks

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have stopped watching this game

To ogle pics of the women’s beach volleyball finals. WOW! It rained? God does love me after all.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's with

the cheerleaders?

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't get me wrong

I’m cool with it.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pics

May not be safe for work:

http://withleather.uproxx.com/post.phtml?pk=6706

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i may have to wait on that one

i’m pushing it by posting durign work…

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was a point...

after they won when they were hugging and about to fall into the sand when I thought “this is about to get good”. Then my wife threw a pail of ice water on me…

Favorite quote from the beach volleyball announcers “she looks like a powdered donut”. hmmmmmmmm tasty.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm. donutssssss.

Don't Stop Believing!

by KC Chris on Aug 21, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NICE

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

All rain would accomplish is to further enhance their boy-like chests.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 21, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sizemore put this one out of moral reach

Turned a close 3-2 game into a 6-2 blowout

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KC Star was contemplating the rotation for this weekend

and they were saying the 40 man was full, and that had to be accounted for, etc.

Right, Star. No way we could risk losing Fulchino or Newman.

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bullpen ERA this series

19.28

We’ve got that going for us

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a bit misleading

By the fact that our opponents got tired from scoring so many runs after awhile.

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by RoyalsRetro on Aug 21, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another positive

Butler can’t hit into a DP here, since he leads off

by loyal2sdad on Aug 21, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And he FLEW out.

Instead grounding out.

by Big Guy on Aug 21, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another Positive..

We stay consistant every year… even though its consistantly sucking

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Aug 21, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EPIC FAIL ROYALS!!

Yasuhiko Yabuta is to Major League Baseball as Drew Carey is to The Price is Right

by focs on Aug 21, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good job dayton

way to trade horatio ramirez for a guy who strikes out every 4th at bat in single A and walked once….dumbass

by GobbleforCyoung on Aug 21, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 21, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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