Game 129 Open Thread - Tigers at Royals
by Freneau on Aug 23, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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This is a sorta funny moment in Herodotus, during a section when he's discussing the shape and size of the world. Hyperboreans were a mythical race thought to inhabit the far north and to possess a number of wonderful qualities.
If however there are Hyperboreans, it follows that there are also Hypernotians; and I laugh when I see that...
I laugh too...
Happy Saturday everyone. I'm still in Ireland.
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Yay!!! It’s Saturday baseball!
Waiting for a 90+ win season
by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on Aug 23, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
Ducky to start tomorrow
Gordon placed on the DL; probably out for the year
Callaspo activated
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
With all these injuries KC is gonna have their work cut out for them to get back to 69 wins
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
he has stopped a couple other streaks this year
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
He's still much the same pitcher as last year
just not as homer happy.
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You should see it with the OBPs
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Aug 23, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there nobody on here?
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
Haha
Renteria’s having his “Boston year” all over again.
Sac fly though, 1-0 bad guys.
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Wow, is everybody at the game
or is the game that boring? I’m in Chicago still so I can’t see it. This year has really fallen off of a cliff fast.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions
Future Royals update
Pat Burrell went knocked in five and homered to bring his season line up to .268/.390/.556.
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I'm here sort of. I'm guessing a lot of people are getting ready to watch the Chiefs.
They haven’t blown the season YET.
They will
They’ve got some players that’ll make the season tolerable for you Chefs fans, though. Bowe comes to mind, for example.
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Bowe might be a lot like Soria this year.
Good when he can get the ball, but might have a major problem actually getting the ball.
He got the ball last year
to the tune of 995 yards. A lot rides on whether Croyle can be competent, though.
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He won't be.
Chiefs won’t be good until Croyle is not QB.
realistically speaking
Football Outsiders
agrees with you. Who looks good to draft as a QB next year?
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How bad is this offense?
2nd inning; 3 fastballs down the MIDDLE, 3 outs
This is all Miner has to do to get our hitters out. Thrown it down the pipe. 90mph.
realistically speaking
Oh, forgot that the Zubaz nation
was firing up the El Camino.
I don’t mean to be a downer, but Burrell and Dunn aren’t going to be playing here next year or ever. My opinion, just a prediction, but DM is not going to up the payroll to $80 mm+ next year based on his comments to date. It will be a combination of trades and low-rent FA signings. Gload will still be at 1B and entirely complete his contract.
This team isn’t going to really make a move forward until DM’s draft picks get up here. If they end up not being any good, not sure what happens.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
What comments are you referring to?
From where I’m sitting, it looks as if the Royals are set to increase the payroll.
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based on?
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the money coming off the books,
based on Glass’s recently willingness to shell out the dough, based on a draft where we went over slot money several times. Based on the next few years being the cheap years of some of our good young players.
Where’s these comments you’re talking about?
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That it does
I’m saying that I think we’ve shown a willingness to spend money recently and I don’t think Glass is going to be crying poor like he has in the past.
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How long do you think he'll wait?
The thing that worries me about waiting too long is A) the brass might get tired of the losing and fire Moore before his plan comes around and B) I think we need to see some progress soon given the abr clocks of players such as Gordon, Butler, and maybe even Aviles. These guys won’t be young and improving forever. (duh I know)
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DDJ is another guy
who might not be around if we’re going to have wait much longer to attempt to contend.
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I don't know. I do think he'll support Dayton and won't can him unless
we’re in the same boat 5 years from now. I just think both Moore and Glass understand that the Royals are still a long ways from being able to put a solid line up on the field every day. My guess is if Aviles continues to play like he has and both Gordon and BamBam have good years next year, it will be the following offseason.
I'd also be surprised to see a payroll increase.
Mainly because I don’t Glass wants to do it unless there will be clear results. I think if we were one or two players away, Glass would be more than happy to pay for them.
my comments
are based on multiple interviews where DM has indicated that we can’t sustain a payroll of $75+ unless we’re drawing > 2mm fans, and more like 2.5. I am making an assumption that the payroll increase will not come until the attendance increases.
This is also pure speculation, but I think that DM’s vision of the team’s future is much longer term and therefore he isn’t going to go after anymore free agents until the team’s performance warrants it. The recent moves made were IMO more to get this team to a major-league baseline level so that fan interest didn’t totally tank. Throw in the fact that we had Sweeney’s $$ coming off the books, and it was easy to make the Meche and Guillen decisions.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Response
We could add some payroll and still not be over that 75 million figure for next season, especially if we can find a taker for Guillen. Also, I disagree that it was “easy” to make the Meche and Guillen decisions. Signing Meche was a risky move that has worked out well. Signing Guillen was a risky move that so far hasn’t worked very well. I don’t think either was particularly easy.
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easy from the standpoint
that we had $$ coming off the books and adding the players was pretty much a wash payroll-wise. Agree with you that both were higher risk moves but just saying that it didn’t take a significant new investment.
My take on the situation is that he’s not going to go much higher than we’re at now until we’re much, much closer to being contenders.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I mentioned some of what I wanted to say
in response to Warden. I’m wondering, if what you say is true, how long do you think he’ll wait?
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I posted a response above but I'll put it here just to make sure you see it.
If Aviles, Gordon, and Butler all have a good year next year- I think it will be the following off season.
Yep, I saw it
I’d have to look up the free agent class to know exactly what to think, but on the surface it seems to make sense.
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I don't know
I mean, I agree with you that Glass isn’t going to wait forever, but it seems like we’re already into the first phase of “well, these players suck so we’ve got to wait until the next wave” of DM’s tenure. Bannister is not an answer, Guillen isn’t an answer, Teahen (I know not a DM guy but someone we were counting on) isn’t an answer, Davies isn’t an answer, and we still really don’t know for sure about Butler, Gordon, Aviles, Hochevar. So, there are still A LOT of holes to fill – I count at least 5: Guillen, Teahen, Gload, Bannister, Davies. So let’s say then that Aviles comes back to earth, then you’re looking at about 1/4 of your roster that really isn’t productive. That’s not anywhere close to being ready to contend.
At some point, there have got to be some guys that actually come through and really produce. Potential is only going to go so far, we’ve been hearing that for 15 years. If these guys aren’t going to produce, why should DM burn a lot of cash trying to help them out? Better to wait until “his guys” are ready to produce and then supplement.
Believe me, I hope I’m wrong, I’d like to contend next year with 2-3 additions. Unfortunately, I think it’s going to take a whole lot more than even that. I don’t think we’ve really come to grips with how far Baird/Glass ran this franchise into the ground. It’s going to take a LONG, LONG time IMO to recover. I would compare it to Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans, it may never really come back.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Eek
I think your comparison is a little bit dramatic. Personally, I think all the good pitching the system could make our chance at competing in a relatively weak division sooner rather than later if Moore choses the right FAs on offense and cuts bait on some of the chaff.
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i don't think we're in a relatively week division or will be anytime soon....
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
where the HELL was that 2-2 pitch to Cabrera
realistically speaking
BTW, I Survived
Another hour swimming laps at the pool.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I am so proud
Everyone at the Y survived my two hours as guard today.
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Wow, They're Showing
SLG and OPS on screen.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Quick Yankees-Orioles observation:
Carl Pavano STILL sucks.
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And He's Expensive
Suck, too.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Luckily the Yankees
can afford solid replacement like Kei Igawa.
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I sure am glad we're bunting
I’d hate to think we were trying to preserve our outs what with our punchless lineup.
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Bunting is a double edged sword with a team like the Royals.
For bunting: We don’t hit with any power, so we really struggle scoring guys from first. Bunting allows them to possibly score on weak base hits.
Against bunting: like you said, giving away any outs for a team that struggles offensively doesn’t make sense. I don’t like it early in the game.
Okay,
run expectancy shows that bunting is usually a bad idea, especially when trailing in a game. Let’s toss that out the window and ask this question:
With Aviles—Mr. XBH—on deck, why would we want to give up an out to move Teahen—an excellent baserunner—to second? It makes no sense.
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Gator Bunts If
No one’s on; that was not an intentional out.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The old "give them a fucking run
without earning it" strategy. Nice Kyle.
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Royals pitchers have excelled at this the past 12 games
Just serving up freebies. It’s disgusting
realistically speaking
Nice spam email I just received
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Why would someone go to a website to look at photos of Sharon Stone naked? If she’s your cup of tea, you already own Basic Instinct. Right?
Is there a LAW AGAINST THROWING STRIKES TO CURTIS GRANDERSON?
fucking ridiculous
realistically speaking
this is why I get nervous when people say
good things about Davies. He’s still a time bomb with these peripherals.
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It's dumb, ebcause if you take granderson out of this game
His numbers look decent. It’s retarded, there was a game earlier this year where I think bannister walked granderson 3 times on like 12 pitches total also, it makes no sense
realistically speaking
I Thought The
Tigers waived Sheffield’s whiny ass.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Being on waivers
is not the same as being released.
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So What, Nobody
Claimed him?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go, another walk turns into a run
realistically speaking
how many games in this horrid stretch have we given up 6 runs on 5 hits or wahtever
and then gotten 9-13 hits and scored 2-4 runs? OFTEN
realistically speaking
It wouldn't be too hard probably
and the numbers would most likely be appalling
realistically speaking
3 runs on three sac flies
finding new ways….new traditions
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
In the mean time, miner is on pace to throw a 90 pitch CG SHO
by for the most part, throwing fastballs right down the middle and laughing as royals hitters flail helplessly and make weak contact
realistically speaking
He bought that awesome
“anti-wood” stuff to put on the baseball tonight. What’s it called? Cialis? No, that’s not it.
(I’m going to slap myself now)
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is it true that Buck actually threw someone out?
where are those horsemen?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Team looks hopeless at the plate
realistically speaking
as teahen takes another 90mph fastball right down the effing middle for strike 1
realistically speaking
then chases two nowhere near the strikezone to make another pathetic weak out
realistically speaking
Annnnd yep
the best strike Teahen gets that PA is the only one he took.
When us statheads say “work the count” it doesn’t mean “let a cookie go by for strike one every time.”
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Teahen's plate approach = fail
He’s a fucking terrible hitter, he consistently has one of the worst approaches I’ve ever seen. Complete inability to drive the ball.
realistically speaking
He still tries to work the count
it’s just at this point, I think the pitchers know that he’s probably not going to hurt them if they throw strikes.
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I'm not talking about working the count
I’m talking about actually driving the hittable pitches he sees, which he doesn’t do, with his pathetic slappy style of hitting
realistically speaking
I know
We aren’t disagreeing. I’m just diagnosing a different symptom of his disease.
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This is something that leads me to believe the Royals should part ways with Teahen
He obviously isn’t coachable, either that or he just isn’t very talented – get rid of him
realistically speaking
He might be worth keeping around
on the cheap as a parttimer, but it’s hard to see him improving much at this point other than a BA spike possibly.
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I can't remember the last fly ball/liner he pulled
if it is in the air, it is to left field, grounders to second base
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
belt high, 90mph, right down the middle
good pitch kyle
realistically speaking
Wellll shit
Maybe we should stop throwing Miguel Cabrera fastballs.
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This game is officially out of reach
realistically speaking
Yeah, Miner Is
An unhittable beast.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was damning our lineup, not praising miner
realistically speaking
...obviously?
I miss Gordon already. He could at least hit righties. Can’t say the same for anyone else.
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I hope we get a jason smith AB
that guy cracks me up
realistically speaking
he would bring some pop off the bench
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Grape Nehi!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Jason Smith's
parents must’ve told him when he was five years old or something “swing hard and close your eyes” as a joke and then watched in horror as he continued to like baseball.
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Bring Up The
Big Kahuna!
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what she said
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Remember when Dejesus was having a 'career year'?
realistically speaking
He has double digit homers
So yeah…he’s pretty much still the good player he was before, and not much else.
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Fuck yes!
A walk. Careful walking down that straight line, Alberto.
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you comment was better than mine
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Callaspo walks!
he needs to go back on the DL
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WELL DONE DAVID
Continue to swing at borderline pitches you can do nothing with when ahead in the count. Woooooooo.
realistically speaking
Yes, Long Ball Peralta
Why
realistically speaking
It's not exactly high leverage with a four run deficit
is it? Managers won’t bring in a set-up man in this situation. Hillman’s no exception.
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No, I meant just leave davies out there
89 pitches, what the hell why nto
realistically speaking
He's got time to turn it around
he was due to regress a bit, I think.
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Here we go, finish us off Miguel
realistically speaking
Note To Joel
No high fastballs. That is all.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
That's What She
Said?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
time for us to go back to back to back
realistically speaking
Kila just got pinch hit for in the 3rd inning of Omaha's game.
Call up or injury?
realistically speaking
With A-Gor Out
It would make some kind of sense to call him up.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why they'd pull him in the 3rd inning though
realistically speaking
strategery
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Lol we are getting 3 hit by Zach miner
Lol
realistically speaking
Bam Bam Is
Hitting fly balls at least; baby steps.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Nice On Camera
“Adjustment” by the ball boy.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
his breaking balls have been incredibly flat since his DL trip
realistically speaking
Good job, Leo
It’d be nice if he could get on a nice run for the rest of the year.
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Wow, Gus Frerotte
Not only is alive but the Vikings are paying him to play QB.
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And?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
In Japan?
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Beauty, Eh?
1st-3, MIA3 9:27 L. Johnson rushed up the middle for no gain
2nd-3, MIA3 8:52 B. Croyle incomplete pass to the left
3rd-3, MIA3 8:47 L. Johnson rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain
4th-1, MIA1 8:02 L. Johnson rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
At Least They
Threw it once.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Ks
Tejeda can dial it up there, can’t he?
(crickets)
Can’t he?!
(crickets)
Can’t he?!?!
Crickets: yes, okay, he can.
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The Site Crashed
For a while; I had 2 posts in limbo.
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by philofthenorth on Aug 23, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this
a season-low for posts?
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 23, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
Just wait for the postgame!
THen things’ll be exciting.
What a crap game.
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random negative observations while hearing crickets chirping
Jose Guillen has been terrible for a really long time now. I mean, really bad. I never imagined he’d be this bad.
Mark Teahen, it’s time for you to leave.
It’s staggering how many players we have in our lineup right now who wouldn’t start for any other team.
You know things are bad when Mike Aviles is selected the Royals’ “player of the game” (on Yahoo Sports’ game presentation) for going 1-4 tonight.
I agree
Guillen has not had a productive at bat in a “sensitive” situation in a very long time. Teabag has been disappointing most of the season. We have a lot of work to do…
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