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Game 112 Open Thread - White Sox (61-48) at Royals (51-60)

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Chicago @ Kansas City


Your pitching matchup is Clayton Richard (9.35 ERA) versus Zack Greinke (3.98 ERA).

Lineup

Chicago White Sox @ Kansas City Royals

08/03/08 2:10 PM EDT

Chicago White Sox Kansas City Royals
Orlando Cabrera - SS Mike Aviles - SS
AJ Pierzynski - C Esteban German - 2B
Carlos Quentin - LF Mark Teahen - RF
Jermaine Dye - RF Jose Guillen - DH
Ken Griffey - DH Billy Butler - 1B
Paul Konerko - 1B Alex Gordon - 3B
Nick Swisher - CF Miguel Olivo - C
Alexei Ramirez - 2B Ross Gload - LF
Juan Uribe - 3B Mitch Maier - CF


Cannot... escape... Gload.

The Royals have climbed to 4-7 against the White Sox this season. For the curious, they're 2-7 against those beloved Twins (they do the little things!), 6-3 against the Tigers and 4-4 against the Tribe.

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had to do that...

it’s a rule right?

by Warden11 on Aug 3, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

surprisingly so

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Aug 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Gload in the OF is even more of an embarrassment

Not only is his hitting way, way below average for the position, but his defense is also way, way below average. Complete suckitude as an OFer.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

you have to be fucking kidding me

Maybe espn was onto something with their less-than-generous odds

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The nature of baseball

The Royals should win this game. We should expect them to win this game.

Of course, the Royals are at the stage where they could very well lose this game. Not to sound like Joe Morgan, but bad teams (for the moment, anyway) like the Royals just aren’t gong to be consistent, especially when they are replying on young guys still finding their way (Gordon, Butler) and streaky hitters (Guillen).

No better illustration can be had than the Royals #5 guy (Davies) beating the Sox #1 (Buehrle) yesterday. So I can totally see a frustrating loss today with the best pitcher on either team (Greinke) not getting the win against a nobody.

Like I said—just preparing myself.

(On the other hand, Teahen may hit 4 homers. BANK IT)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:37 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I will note your unequivocal and firm assertion

that Teahen may hit 4 homers. I am certain you are correct.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 1:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Master of the qualification!

Graduate school has taught me so much.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Of course, if Teahen wasn't hitting in the top third

it’s entirely possible he might not have the opportunity to hit 4 homers!

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Teahen is due!

If you believe in dueness, than Teahen is going to have a tremendous August.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 3, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah, I just laid down $100,000 on the Washtington Generals

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Why don't you call off that bet

and just give me $50K, call it a wash

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Actually

We once had a soccer coach at my alma mater who played for the Generals.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Given the lineup, the Royals are certainly giving the Sox a chance

No DeJesus, and both Gload and Maier in the lineup.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Royals = Classy Organization

Not taking unfair advantage

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Today's heroes

Aviles, M, SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .327
German, 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .252
Teahen, RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243
Guillen, DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
Butler, 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265
Gordon, 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Olivo, C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
Gload, LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
Maier, CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238

Aviles leading off. Gload back in LF. Maier gets another start. German starting at 2B over Smith.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 3, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Yeah, I see that Will added it.

I was too slow. I’m old.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, I'M old.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 1:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

See, thing is

I remember when Tom Poquette was a hot up and coming young left fielder.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I Remember When

Lou Piniella was our ROY LF.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 3, 2008 2:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

wow - I know that batting average is hardly a good measure of ability...

but, wow – nothing to inspire fear, eh?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Aug 3, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

That's why Avilanche is leading off - they will tremble in terror right away.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Aug 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it is kind of scary that Aviles is without a doubt our most productive hitter

and he was very close to being buried forever underneath Pena

by Warden11 on Aug 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That's right, wow

I knew it was close, but Aviles actually leads DDJ in VORP, 21.5 to 19.6. And in almost 190 less PAs.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

TG Pena sucked so bad or he would STILL be costing us.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Aug 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

is gload really the LF today? CRUEL JOKES!!!!!

GO ROYALS!!! today will be the greatest victory in royals history! we are all witness.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Aug 3, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Is there a new OFer stat for "inside the park homeruns allowed" or something?

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Aug 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Classless White Sox organization

not playing Junior in CF today

:(

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Teixeira fitting right into the Angels lineup

Just GIDPed

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

So

if Rowdy Hardy makes the majors, should he try to get ROWDY put on the back of his jersey?

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

No, on the front

Why? Does someone else have their last name on the jersey today?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes, clearly we are fucked.

The EXACT SAME LINEUP that collected 19 hits yesterday.

But we are clearly up the creek without a paddle for putting a guy who has five multi-hit games in his last nine in the lineup (Gload).

(sigh)

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Aug 3, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

It's nice to see that the Royals don't automatically

fall fore the “bench utility guys must be all-glove” mentality.

This time, anyway. I guess That’s just for starters.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Whats with the button.

Pretty much every player on the Royals is constantly jacking with one of the buttons on their jersey. Billy the most.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 3, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Sounds like he needs to go back down to Omaha

Real big leaguers don’t fidget

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

pre-game commercial lesson for today

Hulshof is too soft on Mexican trucks.

Yeah, this primary is working out well for you Republicans. ;)

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

great to see that Trey realized that

he could start Guillen at DH

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

ya if only he could realize that this team

could win w/out Gload

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

44 starts in a row

no one can stop Cal Gloadken

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ross Ripgload?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Aug 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

we say this but gload keep contributing..

even though he well below average offensively at the positions he plays, on an offense like KC’s he gets hits/On Base…

by cfizzle on Aug 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm glad he's helping the Royals in their playoff push

Whlie 3 first baseman jockey for PT in Omaha

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Don't hate the player.

Hate the game.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Aug 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

touche. LOL

2008 VORPs:

Teahen: -3.2

Gload: -5.3 (includes current “hot” streak)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The problem, though

is that THIS team would be better served in 2009 if Gload put up a .150/.180/.200 this year. The idea that he’s an answer at 1B in 2009 should terrify each and every one of you, regardless of how useful he may be over the last month.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If Shealy is anything like he was last year

I would rather have Gload in ‘09.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Aug 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

Dead horse time, but THIS is the time when Shealy should be playing every day it doesn’t interfere with Butler in order to see if he has anything to contribute. Don’t wait until September. Figure out if he’s worth anything at this point for next year, and let Kila Monster and Stodolka get all the 1B/Dh time in Omaha.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Meh.

Shealy’s useless. An .860 OPS in Omaha is, shall we say, not impressive.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree

He doesn’t have much to add. But he’s cheaper than Gload (and was recovering from injury, right/) and can’t be much worse. Why not try him now instead of wasting time next spring, when the Royals might have a new 1B anyway. If he sucks, then the Royals can cut bait on him AND Gload. And it allow the other guys in Omaha the PT they need.

Maybe if the Royals sign a cheap stopgap 1B/DH like Eric Hinske for next year, Shealy coudl be a good platoon partner.

Really, Shealy Doesn’t matter that much. the point is that we know Gload shouldn’t have a role.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Do you think that GMDM thinks,

that Gload is the future at 1st for the Royals? Or just a stopgap until the younger guys are ready (kila…well i can’t think of anyone else right now, i guess shealy but he isn’t exactly young.)

by cfizzle on Aug 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think that what GMDM thinks doesn't matter

unless he’s going to throw Hillman into the deep end of the pool by DingFA Gload this off-season and eating a year’s pay. If Gload’s on the roster next year, and continues “contributing” at this level, he’s going to play.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Turned on the TV

and heard a tenor over-emoting the Star-Spangled Banner.

I assumed I happened to be on the same channel as the Yankees game.

(Turned out to be drag racing on ESPN, but hey,)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Griffey at DH

that… miiiight stop cramps

but no Thome? Yaaay

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

okay, five

I was busy lecturing and not paying attention.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

"It's not hot, you babies!"

“remember the turf”
-Ozzie

I bet an Ozzie Guillen/Jose Guillen debate would be a lot of fun

by BHWick on Aug 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Nice inning.

Banny being Banny.