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David Ortiz Crushes the Royals with a 9th Inning Homer!

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He's clutch. We all knew it was happening. Now a choker... a choker would have grounded out.

We all know who I'm talking about.

But not Ortiz. Ortiz is unstoppable in a key situation. He's clutch. In fact, many wise men have pronounced him the Greatest Clutch Hitter in Red Sox History.

Capt

  • As for the 9th inning that actually happened... what the hell? A lpitcher without Soria's core competence gives up four runs there.
  • For a supposed defensive wizard TPJ  can have his problems. Still, like those with the Clutch label, TPJ's a Gloveman, plain and simple. While a non-gloveman, well, same plays, but they'd get the Lefebvre treatment for those plays.
  • As for Meche, he endured. He endured. No idea where those nine strikeouts came from, but I blame Manny. He had to go.

 

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Predict the next Royals collision

I say Greinke/Gload, ala Harvey/Grimsley.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Aug 4, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Papi Is Better

Than clutch, he’s au-to-ma-tic!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What the F**K?

Is Billy so bad at first that all that shifting around was necessary?? He seemed to do alright to me! WAIVE TPJ!!!! That being said NICE WIN! Did you see how versatile I am in the field. The way I effortlessly read the ball off the bat while playing left field?? I AM AWESOME!

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Heard That

Somewhere before.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a very echo-y blog

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just joined...

yesterday so I have to repeat all the shit I say to myself in my living room during games. Sorry for the redundancy.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No no! It should be

“Gload to have ya!”

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 5, 2008 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As soon as I Pena caused that ball in the 9th to be misplayed

I thought, he is truely worthless on this team this year. If I were in charge he would be DFAed tomorrow. I have no idea why they think he is still worth a roster spot.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 5, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sobbing Like A

Little schoolgirl.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pooooor baby

he needs to back a winner

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was actually asleep at the time

you labeller, you.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As bad as Cleveland is

they still have yet to lose to TB.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shapiro hates baseball

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might i suggest 3 hours of pop-up drills tomorrow morning?

I have never seen this many “i got it/you get it” plays from a major league team as I have from the Royals in the last three weeks alone.

by Big Guy on Aug 4, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its more than just pop-ups.

They are horrible at communicating on ground balls, too. Its like they’re playing in Arrowhead and not The K.

Banny being Banny.

by JobDDT on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We Even Do

It on grounders, for Chissake.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon = DISAPPOINTMENT

Not only does he try to get all the glory by getting in TPJ for the possible last out, but he homered in his first at-bat, and then made an out with his last at-bat, where the homer would have been a much more clutch game winner.

Start looking for a new 3B of the future, Dayton

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought you discovered a sarcasm font

And then you don’t use it?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What could possibly be sarcastic in that comment

I mean, Gordon

is obvoiusly a LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now you're talking

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he has been struggling with that font tonight

even the great ones have off nights

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT WAS A F____ING SOLO HOMERUN!

rally killer. send him back to wichita. better yet, send him to the memphis chicks.

by billexgordler on Aug 5, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Gload briefly used his super-human powers to overtake Ortiz's body

to get him to ground out weakly, much the same way he has done all season.

GLOAD MUST START TOMORROW….VICTORY THANKS TO ROSS AND HIS SUPER-HUMAN POWERS!

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was an amazing 9th inning

Gordon and Pena have to be communicating on that play. And Pena really should have seen Gordon crossing in front of him and backed off. But it all turned out good in the end.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Friggin gameday.

Can’t see any of it!

by KCScuba on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Play Didn't.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No that play didn't, but the inning did

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It Was A

Great but sloppy game.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very well pitched by the Royals. I always enjoy that.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly Can't Fault

The pitchers for the late struggle tonight.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was great. Still,

I’m

disappointed

that Hillman didn’t let Gil go for the 193 pitch complete game. I thought this guy managed in Japan!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazingly horrible

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WE should be thankful no one got killed, given the other night...

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Broken Ankles For

All my friends!!!!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This communication thing is a very, very serious issue

and it’s all at Hillman’s feet for not taking steps to correct it.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How About Another

Post game drill?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're Right, At

Least 2; popups and grounders.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, And Talking,

Too I guess.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you telling me you'd take away time from bunt/bunt-defense practice to work on stuff like pop-ups and routine grounders?

No wonder this organization

(bleeping) loses all the time

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much have you had to drink?

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The very least coaches can do is help improve things like that

They can’t make a bad hitter a good hitter, but they can make players communicate more on pop ups and grounders. That’s a basic little thing. That’s a fundamental that any team can master if it tries.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see you came to the thread

love the coon skin hat by the way

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet you had no idea how much I hated the Cubs

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO ya or Vince Young

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 4, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think gordo took the heat on that one...

and it’s probably merited. he should get to that ball in front of the runner. if the runner obstructs him, he’s out. whatever, gordon learned his lesson and no harm done.

by billexgordler on Aug 5, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He also said that they should have been communicating more on that play

And that is definitely true. One groundballs that are halfway between the 3B and SS, someone has to call it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

i had no idea that Mahay was a former OF. worked out pretty well for him…of course, he throws lefty so i’m sure he got more chances as a pitcher than pena would, but if pena wants to salvage his career, it’s his best option. he’s not a major league hitter.

by billexgordler on Aug 5, 2008 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seven games under .500...

getting closer.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Aug 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am starting to allow myself to dream

I think there is an outside shot that the Royals can finish with 81 wins this year. Maybe a 10% chance.

Minus the one long losing streak early this year, this team would actually be on the edge of contention. The Royals might really make some noise next year if they find one more bat.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Aug 5, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When is DDJ back?

If so, does Trey get the hint and keep Butler at 1B and DH Guillen?

I think a solid defensive outfield (that doesn’t include Gload, German or Guillen) would go a long way to solving the pop up issues.

by Big Guy on Aug 4, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trey:guillen::parra:fielder

by royalsreview on Aug 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hm

DeJesus in center, Gload in left, Butler at first, Guillen DH

by BHWick on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gload Is No

Answer in LF; a healthy Guillen is our best option there. Failing that, put Maier in CF and DDJ in LF. Gload is a butcher in the OF.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Gload is a horrible defensive OFer

Even worse than German.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's my thought

Maybe against lefties have German in LF and Callaspo at 2B (I hear he’s back with the club). Gload and Pena have no place on this roster anymore.

by Big Guy on Aug 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great game one we typically lose

SORIA IS DA MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

And TPJ continues to show why he has earned a spot on our roster

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dougie Had A

Dinger tonight!!!!!!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm spent...

I woke my 2 and 4 year olds up twice with my ninth inning ranting… I better go settle down and hope they don’t repeat any of those words I was shouting tomorrow!

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Upside:

We’re now on pace for 76; continuing our level of play over the last 9 weeks would put us on pace for 80.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Continuing the pace of the last 3 days?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

102

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Start sewing the banners

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(being serious now)

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that a record compiled over nine weeks is sustainable. Right now, I would be confident in betting money we’re going to land between 77-82 wins.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, actually

especially given that pretty much all the hitters other than Avilse struggled horribly through July (Gullen with the sub .500 OPS).

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure hope you are right

Unfortunately more bad streaks could come. Last year I was confident after the Royals play in June, July and August that they were going to get their win total at least to the mid-70’s. And then they just fell apart in September. I hope that doesn’t happen again.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think part of the problem in September last year, however,

was lame-duck Buddy.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never thought that Buddy did much to add or subtract from the win total

I think he was like most managers, and roughly of the same overall quality as Hillman.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no

I don’t mean managerial decision-making. I mean I think his status just led to a what-the-fuck-ever air which may have led to the team not putting out maximum effort.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that was it

Do you really think they stopped trying hard because their manager was a lame duck?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no again

I think his status as a lame-duck led to him acting like a lame-duck, which in turn transferred to the players deciding “if he doesn’t give a shit, why should we?”

I would obviously handwave something like this if it had been April; early in the season, the players will try to elevate themselves to stay in contention. In September, when the season’s already mostly a loss despite a couple of months of good play and your manager’s thrown in the towel? Yeah, I can see it then.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could be right

I’m sure it is natural for many players to half-ass it when the team is clearly just playing out the string. And a manager has to stay on top of them to make sure that doesn’t happen.

But Buddy was a great baseball guy and he would never let a team of his do that.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it might help to check the month=by-month run differential

And, of course, playing the NL REALLY helped the “pace,” but it seemed like no one was hitting in July (again, other than Avilanche). Guillen and (until the last week) Gordon were horrible.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll take it.

Starting off the series with a win is always a good thing.

by Warden11 on Aug 4, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just for the record

I love the Kansas City commercial with the KC song.

by Warden11 on Aug 4, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who gives Meche respect? (just checking)

Against a very potent and power offense, with an umpire who had a postage stamp strike zone, he went

6 ip, 4 h, 2 r, 5 bb, 9 k

Should we be very happy with that for any starter against the Red Sox offense with that kind of strike zone? Yes we can complain about the pitch count if we really want to complain. But when your starter limits that offense to 2 runs over 6 innings to hand the ball over to a bullpen which has been 41-7 this year when leading after 6 innings, should we all be happy with that? I know we want our #2 SP to be an ace, but isn’t being a good #2 SP enough?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope... hes been solid...

especially over the last 11 starts

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Aug 4, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure everyone was pretty happy with Meche on the threads tonight

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool, just checking. I haven't read any of the game thread(s)

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(and all that Will could muster was to say that Meche "endured")

I think one could come up with a better verb than that to describe his performance tonight.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think he should have gone for the 200 pitch complete game

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a horse...

and hillman did well to take him out after 109. he’s proven to me that he can throw 120-125 pitches without negative effect, but with the weather last night, it seemed like the proper adjustment to make.

by billexgordler on Aug 5, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was fantastic...

and actually seemed to be getting better as the innings wore on. Very happy with him tonight. Could’ve done with fewer walks, but he pitched smart. Boston has a great offense and he didn’t want to give in to them. Scattering 5 walks over 6 might not be such a bad idea against those guys.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he really got squeezed by the umpire

When an umpire’s strike zone is so small that Soria is having difficulty throwing consistent strikes, you know it is tiny

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell... doesn't the 12 or 13-2 Dice-K

walk like 75 people a game? Scatter ‘em and don’t get hurt by it. Seems like it would catch up to you after a while though.

by Gload-zilla on Aug 4, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meche was awesome

after the first inning.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was all about his inside pitching

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm also disappointed he didn't hit 3-4 guys

Imagine how dominate he would have been then!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Sox wouldn't have even been willing to get into the batters box after that

And the Royals would have won by forfeit. Now THAT is domination, inside pitching style.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll take Meche over magic

i.e. watching Davies WHIP his way through innings getting “clutch” DPs all night.

Meche has been the rock of the staff since the break (and probably a little before, but everyone else was still pitching well). I have no problem with what he’s done since he came here. And what he’ll probably do through the entire contract.

by Big Guy on Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think, psychologically

that part of the “problem” some fans have with Meche revolves around this team never having acquired a free agent pitcher who contributed to anything meaningful. The 70s teams were Split, Leonard, random fourth starter from within the system, and Larry Gura (acquired via trade). 85 was Sabes, Jackson, Goobz (all from within) and Liebrandt (trade). Meanwhile, the only FA pitcher who ever gave us hope of anything was Cone.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i loved me some charlie liebrandt...

that guy was so good. (counting down til a “hard luck” reference: 5, 4, 3, 2…)

by billexgordler on Aug 5, 2008 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Notes from the 610 postgame show

RT doesn’t like walking the winning run onto base in the 9th.

by BHWick on Aug 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

really...

we should start resting TPJ for the playoffs

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 4, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Apropos of nothing

I meant to mention this the other day, but it’s nice to see Sutcliffe back to work. He’s not a genius or the best broadcaster around, but it’s always good to see someone get back to work after a cancer scare.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's one of the few sports broadcasters who does not usually annoy me

So good for him.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like the Red Sox NESN guys

Not annoying and give fairly straightforward, not very homeristic analysis.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 4, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can get on my nerves when they get all

“President of Red Sox Nation” though.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"who does not usually annoy me"

There you go, that’s it exactly. He’s pretty much wholly inoffensive.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but I sure hope you don't take it to hard if the cubbies lose

I know you love them so

I’m so sick of slackers like Lance Berkman who aren’t as good as David Ortiz

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, it's what made me think of Sutcliffe

since it sounds like O’Brien’s on PBP

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 4, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Just Started

Wuth Fuckyoudome’s AB.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Particularly KCMO, Apparently

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 games under .500

for the first time since May 24. Respectability, here we come?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 4, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think they are respectable now

with meche and greinke pitchig well again

by royalsreview on Aug 4, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young hitters giving some hope

Jose Guillen approaching league average hitting again

Ross Gload’s valiant play in the OF inspiring feats of defensive wonder

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's good to have a handful of key players playing well at the same time

I sure hope we’re in the first week of another patented JoGui hot streak. He’s certainly hit well of late including more than a few XBH.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that I think about it

He was just starting to go off when he launched in to the “Babies” rant. Maybe the whole “liiving hell”/denial whateveritwas signals another amazing no walks/XBH frenzy. Followed by him getting happy a week into September and morphing back into TPJ with John Kruk’s athleticism.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's All In

Hoagy’s head.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Mellinger

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then it must be true

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Presence of Mariners, Pirates, and Nationals in MLB

also helps

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so too

but then again, I’m a fan.

How many articles on today’s game will still refer to the “lowly” Royals beating the mighty mighty Bostons?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Aug 5, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm eyeing Detroit

Only three games up on us and losers of 4 straight. @the White Sox this week but then they should cruise through Oakland, Toronto, and Baltimore at home, right?

by Pauli on Aug 5, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Nick Punto hit a home run tonight

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 4, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Carlos Lee always been a tubby fuck

and pinstripes just had a slimming effect? Or is he bloating?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's gotten a little fatter every year since leaving the White Sox

He’s no Scott Podsednik, that’s for sure

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was never svelte

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you just are morning the loss of our national innocence

That’s understandable.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

610 fun

as the post-game show guys question the wisdom of putting TPJ into games on defense and wonder if Hillman should be held more accountable

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They Read Us

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt be surprised,

It sure seems like there are a lot of changes made out there, shortly after we call for them. Kila being moved up, butler getting more pt at first. But then again, that could just be the fact that for the most part theres a lot of really good opinions on this site and management is just taking a little longer than us to figure things out.

by Randa4life on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm Is Hard

To detect on the intertubewebs.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they want to hold Hillman accountable for something, then they shouldn't deal with small potatoes like defensive replacements

There’s some real meat to dig into like overplaying Gload.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They also need to hold Moore accountable for his mistakes

Everyone had made mistakes and should be held accountable for them.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to finish my point

It’s not like Moore gave Hillman the personnel which requires that he be in the starting lineup every night. It’s not like Hillman has no other choices. The number of starts Gload has gotten is on Hillman.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To a point

I’m the sort of guy who, if I were a GM and my manager kept playing someone useless, I’d trade them away to kick the crutch out.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true. Moore is also to blame for not DFA'ing Gload

DFA’ing him would be a no-risk move. Either another team takes him or we can outright him to Omaha. If he refuses the assignment, we’re out from under the contract.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(of course, I’d also be a dick and stick my manager with a 10-man staff.)

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this "morse" Guy, Mr. Glass

...and I’ve heard you occasionally like to save money.

Can someone please explain to me the typical GM/Manager dynamic? Who knows what really goes on with the Royals and elsewhere, but I often get the picture that the GM really almost never says something like “I know this guy is on the roster, but DO NOT give him regular starts.” I don’t understand that. Moneyball (yeah, I know it wasn’t perfect, I still think it was a wonderful book for what it was) made it sound like even Billy Beane, the most “in control” of day-to-day lineups of all GMs, had to poke and prod Art Howe to play the right guys.

That drives me nuts.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't speak for every GM/Manager situation

But from what I know of the (team formerly known as Devil) Rays, the GM and Manager are in constant communication about how players are performing (a friend of mine works for the GM). The GM and his assistants are always crunching numbers, looking at guys all throughout their system, but that includes MLers. I don’t think that they give explicit directions to their manager, such as ‘DO NOT give him regular starts’, but I’m sure they give general suggestions—remember the GM is the Manager’s boss.

by benfunke on Aug 5, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure the GM/manager dynamic is different on every team, but...

I’m sure GM’s and managers discuss how certain players are going to be developed, particularly when they are first brought up, but I doubt most GM’s try to take control of how the manager puts a lineup together. Unfortunately, I think both Hillman and Moore overvalue Gload. The reason he hasn’t been DFA’d is that they think/understand that this has been an uncharacteristically bad season for Gload (and unlucky as well) and they want him on the team next year (hopefully as a bench player after some acquisitions are made).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the "problem" is that

Gload has played pretty well over the last few weeks or so. Other than not hitting for power, where’s the knock on him? He’s a veteran who hits for average, isn’t a hacker, plays good D, and seems like a positive teammate; hard for a manager/GM to stray from that, even if it is limiting time for Butler. Now there’s the ‘build for the future’ argument, which I tend to agree with, but i also could envision a number of legitimate reasons that Hillman/Moore aren’t forcing Butler into a role at 1B when Gload is playing fine (Butler’s not ready, his attitude is not in the right place, etc.).

by benfunke on Aug 5, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gload has played pretty well over the last few weeks or so. Other than not hitting for power, where’s the knock on him?

Even when he’s hitting well, all he does is hit singles. He doesn’t draw walks or hit for power. So even when he’s hitting well, his OBP and SLG are still pretty low.

Over the last 14 days .300/.294/.440 (OPB lower than his BA…yikes!)
Over the last 28 days .279/.316/.360 (awful)

And his best mont of the season was June: .289/.329/.408

Even his best numbers are way, way below average (and way below acceptable) for a starting first baseman. They are ok for bench player, if there is room on a team’s bench for a guy with limited skills like Gload.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More

“Mike Aviles forced himself into the lineup”

and mentioning Huber and Bell

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Means No

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta admit

I’m impressed that Wrigley seems packed after they cleared it out due to a tornado threat during the delay.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That place is always packed, regardless of weather, team or record

Of course, from what I’ve heard, most of the “fans” who go there don’t even much care that there’s a game going on. They are just there because it is the place to be.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harry Caray Was

Their leader.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Clark and Rafael

Palmeiro have something to do with this according to the booth.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pussy

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beat Me To

It.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this thing ESPN's doing

showing the batter’s line with the current count

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Berkman really needs to put on a dress

“I don’t like lightning!” Clearly he isn’t from the midwest.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd Like To

Move him him there, though, as in KCMO.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My #1 target for the future

Ryan Howard.

He might be slightly cheaper if his BA stays low.

But Howard is a good HR man, good eye, and a STL native.

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I pine for Berkman as well

He’s played the OF, too, so he’s got the versatility of Gload!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marlon Byrd, walk off grand slam against the Evil Empire

Gotta love that.

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Aug 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marte comes in and proves his worth

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile in Chicago

LIGHTNING TIME NOW

might be time to flee the bleachers

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In the interest of tempering yet properly stating my excitement about this win...

I was at a game a few years ago and during the inning change all the Royals players announced their favorite movie. Sure enough Sweeney’s up on the jumbotron and his answer: “circle of friends.” Well they were pretty good seats, maybe 10 back of the dugout, and a guy two rows in front of me, yells “Sweeney, you fag.”

I couldn’t help but think… “he’s right. Uncouth, homophobic, possibly drunk, but… right.”

This game represents the equivalent moment after a long decline and current resurgence in the fangraph of my life.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KROD with the blown save...

He’s no Soria. Although, the Angels defense didn’t make it easier for him…

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Aug 5, 2008 12:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh, Did You

The Royals’ 9th tonight?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Aug 5, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, Soria's defense let him down too. He got the outs afterwards though.

K-Rod had an error made behind him then promptly gave up a 2 run single and double.

winning records follow good bullpens

by slayor on Aug 5, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After 113

2008: 53-60
2007: 50-63

We’re almost on a pace for 76 wins

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Records by month, 07 and 08

April: 8-18 / 12-15
May: 11-17 / 10-19
June: 15-12 / 16-11
July: 13-12 / 12-14
August: 13-15 / 3-1
September: 9-19

So basically we have to fare pretty well over these next two weeks, and hold up in September.

I think our only non-division September series is the possible return of Mike Sweeney to KC with Oakland (assuming that Mike is off the 60 day DL by that time)

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're awesome in april and may...

just lulling the competition to sleep.

where tpj happens.

by blue bandwagon on Aug 5, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, nevermind on Sweeney

Source

The 35-year-old Sweeney, who is hitting and taking grounders with no pain, was initially placed on the disabled list on May 30 with left knee inflammation. Less than two weeks later, though, he underwent arthroscopic surgery on both knees and has yet to play since.

When the A’s leave for Boston following Wednesday’s series finale against Kansas City, Sweeney will head to Arizona, where he said he’ll be for about a week before deciding if he is ready for a rehab assignment at Triple-A Sacramento.

“The left knee is the one that’s causing the most pain,” he said. “It locks up every time I run, and the right one acts up when I’m decelerating.”

Sweeney, who has had one stint on the DL in each of the past seven seasons, had right knee surgery last year in the final of his 13 seasons with the Royals. If he doesn’t see improvement in Arizona, he will be forced to undergo season-ending microfracture surgery, which would help restore cartilage in both knees.

by BHWick on Aug 5, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So much for the Guillen-Sweeney VORP race of 2008

During the Oak-KC series, Sweeney was ahead. Now, Guillen’s up 8.4 to 3.6.

Alex Gordon is up over 10, gaining on Grudz. His MLVr is positive for the first time in a long time.

Meche (22.3) passed Soria (21.8) in VORP last night.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals playing good baseball. Meche and Greinke's stats are very very similar

Meche 10-9 146.2 IP 68 ER 1.32 WHIP 4.17 ERA
Greinke 9-7 146.2 IP 64 ER 1.32 WHIP 3.93 ERA
Nice to see two Royals pitchers on pace for over 200 Innings and both have winning records so late in the season.

Trey needs to play Jason Smith in leftfield tonight. He has more range and is better out there compared to German or Gload. Plus he is a power bat that can hit righthanders halfway decent. K’s too much but hey gotta give something to get something. Hopefully DDJ will be back soon.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Aug 5, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How is Smith's bunting?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Aug 5, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ / Meche

I got home late last night and I turned on the game just in time to hear Ryan say “Tony Pena Jr. will bat in the fifth spot…” Thats nine words I never want to hear together ever again.

Meche’s last 11 starts:
7-1 (The Royals are 9-2), 2.69 ERA, 70.1 IP, 21 ER (2 unearned)
59 H, 22 BB, 56 SO, 3 HR.

Not bad from number $55.

by KCctrell85 on Aug 5, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT!?!?!?

Greinke and Olivo suspended for 5 games!!

Olivo yes, but Greinke??? Can it be proven that he threw at Swisher? What about freakin Carrasco? What about GUILLEN who threatened the Royals after the game.

I was so ticked that the umps freakin apologized to Guillen after the game. I’m sorry, when a Big League pitcher throws 3 pitches at a dudes head – something’s gotta give. Even homer announcer Hawk Harrelson of the White Sox was like, “yeah, he has every right to charge the mound.”

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!1

This is the biggest load of BS.

by labbadabba on Aug 5, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI, there's a fanshot on this with some discussion

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Aug 5, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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