Game 115 Open Thread - Red Sox (65-49) at Royals (53-61)
by Freneau on Aug 6, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
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Your pitching matchup is Wakefield v. Hochevar:
I'm not sure if a knuckleballer exactly equals a "finesse pitcher", but according to the numbers on Baseball Reference, the Royals have posted their lowest team OPS against pitchers of that sort.
(The overflow thread is auto-scheduled for 9 Central, just in case I'm not around.)
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I Hate Tim Wakefield
In my MLB The Show 08 PS3 Game I’m on career mode with the Royals and my management traded Grienke for friggin’ Wakefield as soon as I started my career. I hate Tim Wakefield.
Brian McCrae
just said on pregame that he thought Mark Teahen would be our best centerfield option….interesting.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
I'm assuming
He said that he saw him work in spring training and he liked the way he looked, he also gave props to Maier, DDJ too but his first answer was Teahen….who knows if he was saying it to say something outside the box or what.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
was he drinking?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
no TV for mere mortals in Omaha tonight
boooooo! I have to listen to Bobo Davis.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I wish there were more knuckleballers in MLB
CHARLIE HAEGER NOW!
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can Rowdy Hardy learn it?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Can You Recall
A knuckleballer LHP?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i couldn't...but thanks to Al Gore's internet...I found a link
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I Remember Wood,
But I didn’t know he was LH. He was double weird, as be batted RH. Oh, and I used Ted Stevens’s “series of tubes” to look that up; Gore only helped create the internet (he actually did). That was twisted into “invented the internet” in days by the notoriously liberal media.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i've always wondered about this
because if the knuckler moves weird from a righty, just imagine what it could do from that CRAZY left hand
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I've always wondered about this
because if the curveball moves weird from a righty, just imagine what it could do from that CRAZY left hand! :P
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Wakefield
= ridiculously good in MVP baseball. Knuckleballs are so damn hard to hit in video games.
The real pitcher is pretty cool two. Obligatory mention of the ridiculous “contrast in styles” between Tim-MAY and Hooch.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Lineups
RF JD Drew
SS Jed Lowrie
DH David Orteez
1B Kevin Youkilis
3B Mike Lowell
LF Jason Bay
CF Jacoby Ellsbury
C Kevin Cash
2B Alex Cora
P Tim Wakefield
SS AVILES NOW!
2B Esteban German
RF Mark Teahen
DH Guy Who Hates Playing at Home
1B Billy Butler
3B Alex Gordon
C John Buck
LF Explosive Gload
CF Magnificent Mitch
P Luke Hochevar
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Did Trey steal Owen's lineup card from last night?
M. Aviles ss
E. German 2b
M. Teahen rf (2-8 w/ 2ks vs. wakefield)
J. Guillen dh (3-11 w/5ks, 2 bb)
B. Butler 1b (1-3, double)
A. Gordon 3b (2-3)
J. Buck c (2-7, 2 doubles, 2 k)
R. Gload lf (0-3)
M. Maier cf
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Teahen said he's gunna do well against Wakefield,
he said his dad used to throw him knuckleballs when he was growing up.. So he’s ready.
and teahen's dad must have had one of the best knucklers in history
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim Wakefield his dad?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
prediction: Teahen won't get a hit tonight.
....unless his dad is Tim Wakefield.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I know!
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone watch the game when Randy Johnson was pitching against Wakefield..
A combined age of like 80+
if only Julio Franco could've made a pinch hitting appearance
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i think i do too.....is that 1989? just a guess
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think '88
But it might be ‘89. That was a golden era, right before everyone and his mom began producing cards, flooding the market and devaluing the cards.
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Unpossible
That is a Score card, meaning it is by definition AFTER everyone and his mom began producing cards!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
great advice from frank white on hitting the knuckler
NOT. duh you want to wait to the last second to hit it. i’ll say it….if it’s high, let it fly; if it’s low let it go. if you don’t follow this it’s a long night….also, working the count also is a very effective way to wait out a knuckleballer….umps, like hitters, often don’t get a good look at it. and often that last move takes it out of the zone, which is confusing.
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
that's good news for us
because we are
awesomeat working the count
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm pretty sure it was a ted williams quote originally
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ted's frozen head?
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
john bale shut down in his rehab assignment
i assume something related to the shoulder, not another door-punching incident
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
damn leadoff single again
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions
Drew leading off with the single
Not that I have a problem with Drew leading off, but he usually doesn’t. Weird.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Luke Hochevar update:
Still stinks. What “stuff” does he posses that made him a number one overall pick, anyway?
(don’t say grit)
Banny being Banny.
A very good sinker
with good velocity, and the upside to be a good mid-rotation guy. Was that a serious question?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No, obviously not.
Hochevar has much better stuff than Carrasco…obviously…and a FIP that suggests he’s pitched better than his results, but I don’t suppose that means much to you.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
I’ll leave the barrel of stats for you to dig through to find something that makes him look good. I’ll take his predictable location and horrid ERA for myself.
Banny being Banny.
Okay
I’ll actually attempt to analyze whether he’s going to improve, you snark at him struggling against one of the best lineups in baseball. Sounds good.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really expect me
to answer that?
If you’re saying Hochevar hasn’t had ANY good outing, that’s pretty darn wrong.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
His ERA is horrible.
You’re making it seem like he has only struggled against great lineups.
Banny being Banny.
His ERA is indeed
running high, especially given his stuff and his expected DIPS results. It also mgiht have something to do with our infield defense.
And no, I never said that he has only struggled against great lineups. You obviously made that up.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
could be a short outing
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
ross gload throws to the wrong base....wow
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
What was that RUSS????
Are you serious Cheetah?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
unless there is a ball rolling along the top of a fence
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i think so...can you send that memo to dayton
...i mean if we’re gonna pay him next year anyway.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Split still supports the decision
”...the important runner is the man on first”
Really? Did not know that.
i guess he's saying to keep the double-play in order....but there's no chance Drew was tagging until his throw was horrible.
Splitt may be confusing this with a slow-pitch softball game strategy.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
he burned up all of his defensive prowess points last night.
still recharging his defense meter
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
just went down like he got sniped.
that was a Carrasco-esque pitch….but he dives out over the plate.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Youk does that
his elbow is almost always hanging over the inside corner.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowell hitting fifth
Okay, Terry Francona must’ve decided it was “strange lineup night” at the K.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
must be...alex cora is in there
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowell
Yeah that’s a regular thing I guess, but I don’t get why Bay wouldn’t be further up. It doesn’t really matter, just bugs me for some reason.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
It’s easy to look like a good situational hitter when there’s always guys on base in front of you. I place no weight in that. But he’s fine at the fifth spot, I’d just move Bay up a slot if I had my way…but like I said it really doesn’t matter I’m just blowing smoke.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
zero runs, niiiiice
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
What is that crap on Luke's hat?
If it isn’t sweat, he could be in danger of Kenny Rogers-ing himself.
Banny being Banny.
Okay, well,
that’s not how you want to pitch a scoreless inning…but maybe now Luke can get in a groove.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Lineup update.....Sean Casey in for Youkilis.
So now their lineup includes Cash, Elsberry, Casey, and Cora? We
shouldbe able to hold them down tonight.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
Funny watching gameday...
Every single pitch is knuckleball, knuckleball, knuckleball
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Aug 6, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions
he hit a fastball...so i'm not counting it
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
as ron burgundy would say.....when in rome?
i don’t know what pish posh applesauce means….so i’ll just smile and nod.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
is that like we want a pitcher, not a belly itcher?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
should have been in sarcastic font.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Aug 6, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
billy just saved us 19387310948731 runs
very
gload-likewith the
leatherby Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
+11111111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!987654321
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
starting with ANWAR!!!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Terry Francona appears to be
In the Buddy Bell mindset of lineup creation on getaway day.
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I can't believe Obama picked Paris Hilton as a running mate
What the hell was he thinking????
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she isn't qualified for waist management
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
She Sure Can
Manage to get wasted.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It's A Fine
Drink of some kind, if you like that kind of thing.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No political shit please.
Let's Go Blues!
by powderbluesfor08 on Aug 6, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
kicksafe and a beauty
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
er...save
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely Random "How your big free agent signing update"....Andruw Jones
is nowhere to be seen in the starting lineup. shocking.
However…this man raised his batting average to .213 with an RBI triple
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
You Mean Oscar?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That's What My
Wife said.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't look now
but Billy’s starting to get pretty good at stretching for the throw, as in “looking more graceful.”
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
He'll Probably Pull
A hammy or something.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
what's wakefield on pace for? 80 pitches cg?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he can do that...it's fine
Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.
by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Aug 6, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually got to put on one of those gold gloves......bob dernier came to our high school and showed it off to us
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda Like Stainless
Steel pumps.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it's actually a real glove.....not all heavy and weighed down like you would think.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
spray painted gold?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
not sure if it's spray painted....but it was definitely surprising for him to take the glove
off of the trophy and pass it around to everybody
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
per wikipedia (which we know is never wrong):
“In 1957, the baseball glove manufacturer Rawlings created the Gold Glove Award to commemorate the best fielding performance at each position in baseball. A glove made from gold lamé-tanned leather was affixed to a walnut base, and the Rawlings Gold Glove was born.”
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was going to be like a golden trophy....but it's just a regular glove.
you could use it in the field if you really wanted to…..the gold may chip off though.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
royals pride
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
2 out hit
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
do you think runners just laugh at buck when he acts like he's going to jump up and pick them off
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
How many times have we seen this shitty script?
2 outs, hit, walk…. horrible pitch. Seriously Luke, this is pathetic
winning records follow good bullpens
close out the freaking inning, Luke!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
3-0 might as well be 9-0
winning records follow good bullpens
Blast it
cruising through 4 2-3, and then the wheels come off.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Every single fking game, arhg
winning records follow good bullpens
It's not over....
have some faith Royals fans. Don’t sit down and cry… it’s the fifth inning and when the wheels come off for Wakefield, they come off. We can get back in this that quick.
I believe….
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Nosotros Creemos!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Luke pitch a lot worse out of the stretch?
I know Bannister seemed to have that problem, and Luke definitely seems to throw more balls and do worse when he has runners on. He’s really streaky that way.
He definately doesn’t repeat his delivery as well out of the stretch… I think he needs to go to the 4-seem first pitch out of the stretch…. then go to that devastating 2 seemer… we tend to go to something good and overuse it until it’s not that good anymore…. the power change… the sinker…. Soria’s 60 mph curve….
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Luke is the anti-Soria
everytime someone reaches base, he falls apart
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
Soria Pitches From
The stretch all the time.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy & Alex...rally time!!
Here is your reward for your performance Billy!
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
Productive AB buck...ugh
winning records follow good bullpens
Cheetahhhhhhhhhhhh!
a vintage single from the cat.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
Russ explodes
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Ahhhh Crap!
I thought that was gone!
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions
Not clutch Mike, o'fer wtf?
winning records follow good bullpens
Why didn't it go out?
Upa gainst the wall?
winning records follow good bullpens
I have yet to see any reason
why Aviles is not a good defensive shortstop.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
We must get Butler off 1B and Aviles off SS
as soon as humanly possible every game, don’t be silly.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
They're Costing Us
6.38 runs PER GAME!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Aug 6, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Another big innings in the works
winning records follow good bullpens
Hoch with another 5.1 innings someone needs to tell him the game
is 9 innings long
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Good idea.... go from 0-1 to 3-1 on the worst hitter in their lineup
winning records follow good bullpens
This might just be a rant but it seems like the Sawks
strikezone when they are hitting is smaller. Wonder if their rep helps them out ala the Braves of the 90’s
Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin
Get him out of here that's a joke
winning records follow good bullpens
your wish is trey's command.....enter mahay to put out the fire...
or put oot the fire in canada
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
One bad pitch here and this game is ovahhhhh
winning records follow good bullpens
Francona obviously saw this coming..
thats why he hit Drew leadoff
I refuse to set up a signature....DAMMIT
I've been thinking
that the strikezone has been all over the place tonight. There was that one pitch by Wakefield that ended up like 2 feet outside and the ump called it a strike. I know the knuckler moves, but come on!?
Now Mahay is giving us a reprise of last night’s roller coaster ride.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 6, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Mahay
When was the last time Mahay came in and DIDN’T go 3-0 on the first batter he faced?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
HEY HOCHEVAR:
THIS IS WHY YOU DON’ TWALK THE 9 HITTER ON 5 PITCHES AFTER GETTING 2 OUTS
winning records follow good bullpens
SHIT
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 6, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions
Nice play...
Tea-bag
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Aug 6, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Everything he throws up there is getting called a strike
winning records follow good bullpens
because we're swinging at everything?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, that too
winning records follow good bullpens
We look absolutely helpless / hopeless
winning records follow good bullpens
WITCH!!
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
Pimentel
6.0, 2 ER, 8 K, 0 BB, 5 H so far…
Moustakas is on fire lately….
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Now it's definnitely over
winning records follow good bullpens
Mahay is not on fire lately...
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Mahay is getting smoked since the deadline… what’s the deal with that?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
that’s kind of what I was implying… How can we change the mindset other than GET BETTER?
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
i think it's a bit coincidental and probably not related....
but an interesting theory nonetheless
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
It was a lot to expect him to keep pitching the way he was
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
big shock here
all with two outs
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Positive of this game:
Billy Butler is playing a damn good first base tonight.
by I need more Esteban on Aug 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
butler with a defensive play!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is earning is post-game feast tonight!
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Aug 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
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