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Game 146 Open Thread - Royals (62-83) at Indians (71-74)

Kansas City Royals at Cleveland Indians, Sep 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT


Cliff Lee faces the Royals for the fifth time of the season tonight, lookig to further inflate his stats against the weak underbelly of the American League. As Joe Sheehan pointed out earlier this week, level of competition has played a large role in Lee's success:

 

Cliff Lee has made 28 starts this season, Roy Halladay 29. Of those, 13 are in-common starts: the A’s, Rays and Rangers twice, and the Angels, White Sox, Reds, Royals, Twins, Yankees and Mariners once. Those starts cancel out. Of the remaining starts, there seems to be a very wide gap in the calilber of competition, enough to at least mention. Of the 15 starts Cliff Lee does not have in common with Halladay, nine have come against teams in the bottom third in offense, as ranked by team EqA, and none have come against a team ranked in the top six.

Looking at it from the other direction, Halladay does not have a single not-in-common start against a team ranked below 18th in EqA. So of the 15 (in Halladay’s case, 16) not in common starts between the two, 60% of Lee’s have come against offenses worse than any of Halladay’s. Halladay also has four not-in-common starts (one against the Cubs, three against the Red Sox) better than any of Lee’s.

Let me run the data this way, because I think it illustrates the point. The following numbers are the team EqA ranks for each not-in-common opponent, highest to lowest.

Halladay: 3, 4, 4, 4, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 14, 14, 14, 14, 17, 18, 18

Lee: 7, 7, 7, 12, 13, 13, 21, 22, 22, 25, 26, 27, 28, 28, 28

It helps if you read those numbers right to left. It’s clear from this data that Cliff Lee has seen a significantly inferior set of opponents than Halladay has.

In other news, guess who ole Trey is starting tonight at DH? The nightmare continues...

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Guillen playing and Shealy not playing actually constitute a nightmare?

Any chance we are overstating this?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And him playing more or less in September doesn't alter the nature of that "nightmare"

This reminds me a lot of the unbearably horrible nightmare of Huber and Brazell not getting enough playing time last September. I don’t know if the organization will ever recover from that horror.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nightmare

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, and things like not giving Ryan Shealy 100 September PA's isn't what is holding the organization back

I know we all obsess about this team and that leads to micro-analyzing things and then overreacting about them. But not everything is a big deal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

your right. But we want our way, dang it.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if we don't get it, it's a freakin' nightmare!

I woke up screaming last night because Soria isn’t in the rotation. He’s still in the bullpen. The nightmare continues.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right, but no one ever said that

or that Huber or Brazell was going to lead to 20-straight wins

the nightmare of auto-pilot/stupid/lazy management DOES appear to be continuing

by royalsreview on Sep 12, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You man the nightmare of an average, by-the-book manager?

Yes. Is anyone surprised?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should have been "You mean the nightmare..."

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why it sucks

It might not make any difference in terms of player development or the team’s future who plays the rest of the year. But this season is getting long and tedious and I want to watch someone else bat.

by PopeSoria on Sep 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the bat boy should get at least one at bat per game

Perhaps that would make for a more interesting experience for the fans.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ridiculous

Comparing the batboy to Sept. callups? That’s just arguing for its own sake.

by PopeSoria on Sep 12, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said should anything

I said what I would like to see. I think I’m entitled to that.

by PopeSoria on Sep 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I said what I would like to see

…using the same reasoning.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're in last, and its game 146

should we have our starters throwing 135 pitches tonight too?

by royalsreview on Sep 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't think the Royals should do anything stupid

And that could have very serious downside. What is the very serious downside to Guillen being and DH in this game and Shealy sitting on the bench?

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am 100%

IN agreement w/ NY on this topic it appears

by GoBabies!! on Sep 12, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just like when in Michigan brought in the towel boy in the infamous Waterboy movie. lol

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

understatement of the night

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tejeda starting second game of doubleheader Saturday

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least Billy is at first base.

What I don’t get is the fact that JoGui NEVER Dh’d in August but as soon as Sept rolls around. Coach, I need the DH tonight. Why doesn’t he want the Royals to see the young guys? Shealy needs to DH if Butler is at first against a lefty!!! Ugh.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I understand you want to see Kila as I do but I'm not big on seeing him against Lee

Who would you rather have DH’in than Guillen who by the way is heating up

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you want to DH then?

I’m cool as long as Butler is at 1b

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck who is a .353 career hitter against Lee.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder wherre he has less value, given his defense?

Funny how he’s always ready to concentrate on his hitting against lefties.

Hey, good. Maybe he’s more tradable. Hopefully, Trey doen’t fall for the number-padding, either.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 12, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't mind the lineup with the exception of TPJ

this is the lineup I advocated if we were to get rid of Teahen on Gordon’s days off

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

baby steps...

at least we got a runner on base that inning

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 12, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if Guillen plays his cards right, he can get to 100 K's tonight

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

game on ESPN right now!

Not sure about everywhere else, but in the SF/Bay Area they’re showing this game due to a Yanks/Rays rain delay. Sweet.

by thejosephboys on Sep 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you in sf?

Bay Area Royals fan

by darenstevens on Sep 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same in Indy.

"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde

by cfizzle on Sep 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

burlington game postponed

game tomorrow at 12 instead.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Sep 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we'll just have to wait one more day to win it all.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close call there at Second..

"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde

by cfizzle on Sep 12, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but My DVR says he got him.

"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde

by cfizzle on Sep 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

even for you

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by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait nevermind he actually got a hit

nice baserunning

realistically speaking

by slayor on Sep 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Royals base running got Teahen to the plate before the tag

Sending him makes more sense than waiting for another hit from this team.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awful call at the plate

Teahen’s foot beat the tag. It wasn’t really that close.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's cliff lee, of course he's getting the call

4 hits in 2 innings

1 run

royals baseball

realistically speaking

by slayor on Sep 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw another angle of the replay which showed that Shoppach never tagged Teahen at all

So, not only did Teahen beat him to the plate, but Shoppach never applied the tag. Home cooking for the CY.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hallady is getting semi-screwed again

finally gets Santana out of the league, then Cliff Freaking Lee has a career year, with a lower FIP and xFIP than Doc the whole time.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone send Pena to Hawaii for winter ball as a pitcher

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great idea

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picked him up on my fantasy team and he hasn't disappointed

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had him as a keeper when he got hurt

The guy ahead of me picked him up on waivers when I was on vacation earlier this year…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see - you should never go on vacation during fantasy baseball season

even if it was to Jamaica with you non-girlfriend girlfriend

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by buddyball on Sep 13, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya Billy totally can't play 1b

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, another TPJ start?

What is the point of that? TPJ’s already far too numerous PAs this year conclusively show he is simply nowhere near being a competent major league hitter.

Perhaps we should conduct an experiment tomorrow to see if the sun is still rising in the East.

by KC Gunner on Sep 12, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, I have a theory

Some folks in the Royals organization must have money on Lee for the Cy Young, and they figured that handing Cliff three or four free outs tonight could prove important to winning their wagers.

by KC Gunner on Sep 12, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

trey would test it

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

everywhere in America it's raining right now

it sounds like a Was Not Was song title, but it’s apparently true…

there are like 10 rain outs tonight

by royalsreview on Sep 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and not raining in miami either

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably Not A

Good day for baseball in Houston.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meche 5 k's thru 4

he is striking out a ton now

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all part of his pitch count destruction

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we're back on ESPN

national relevance is ours

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6 Ks now

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish he could pitch a complete season the way he has pitched since May

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shocking

TPJ does not reach base.

by KC Gunner on Sep 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's a complete joke...

and an indictment of moore

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TPJ is playing on national TV?

doom and destruction for any FA signing.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

touchdown kansas

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Game Is

In ESPN2; an embarrassment of riches. I have Royals on ESPN, too.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's raining in Omaha

and in Kirksville – Truman postponed almost all of their sporting events for today and tomorrow. Still don’t know about the football game.

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

should someone stick a fork in Gil to see if he is done?

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's not raining in DC right now

but it’s raining in my heart…. this team…. oh me, oh life!

by royalsreview on Sep 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch - Trey, give him some relief

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GREAT MANAGING

realistically speaking

by slayor on Sep 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brain explode.

Hillman does not want to win.

realistically speaking

by slayor on Sep 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow - air mail by Teabag

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Airmail

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

more like....

ups 3-5 day ground shipping

by royalsreview on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

guaranteed, baby!

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow - only now is there stirring in the bullpen

Trey obviously hoping Gil could get himself out of trouble

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God this is depressing to watch

Now KU is flexing their muscles so I suppose that’ll be a blowout too

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

big pride

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow that is a whole lotta pride

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as wide as the River Kaw

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Split putting a good spin on it

good strikeout game for Gil…

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Teahen shows off his 4 corner studness

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Grothe in his 3rd year at South Florida and

still can’t pass

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he has one more year

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

David struck out looking

and then spit on himself – oh, it has been a long season

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Split talking about 7 or 8 player turnover

God that would be nice

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Hey #19

Sonic Slam congrats Dave $1000

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jose is da man!

not to nitpick too much, but it would have been nice if he did that when we had runners on base, but don’t want to complain (too much)

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rally killer

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoagie Bomb #19

20 is possible!

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he is the keystone to the team next year!!!

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by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Only If Moore

Can trade him.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

man baseball is a great sport

Coco Crisp is gonna make 8M next year.

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

His Name Is

Worth at least half of that.

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cross-promotion marketing

make it happen, Dayton

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kip Wells is Total Garbage

DFA

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was never a fan of the signing

but when a guy is trying to revitalize his career you take the chance. Now get him out of there and let Lowry eat his innings.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its hard to beat a Cy Young pitcher when the combined ERA of your first 3 pitchers is

over 16

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know why Buck is on the bench tonight?

He is a .353 career hitter against CLee.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's A Baby?

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And can we get rid of Peralta, please?

maybe we can package peralta and kip for a FA college signing who is hitting less than TPJ in rookie ball.

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fulchino Time; Somewhere,

Jose Lima weeps.

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How Did USF

Score?

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kahuna Now!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's in the game

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Was Exulting

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Kila is in the game get him an ab before tomorrows DH

He better play at least one of the games tomorrow

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Choo looks like the real deal

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who Was The

Last Royal before Hoagie to hit 20?

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by philofthenorth on Sep 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Sweeney 05 hit 21

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by kcscoliny on Sep 12, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seems kind of cruel to have Kila bat against the Cy Young award winner

and a lefty at that
But he comes thru!

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 12, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe playing Guillen does serve a purpose

Perhaps playing him full-time in September gives him the opportunity to get his stats up and more attractive for a possible offseason trade. Getting him over 20 HR’s and getting his OPS up around .750 might help Moore move him. Now Moore might not be interested in moving him, but if he’ll be listening to offers at all, increasing his counting stats helps.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade JoGui NOW!!

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by 306008 on Sep 12, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said above

I agree, but I hope it doesn’t convince Moore that JoGui’s worth keeping around.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it doesn't work that way either

We really have no idea how Moore feels about Guillen. He may want him gone and wisely doesn’t let any of that show publicly. Or he might expect a big bounce back from him next year. Regardless, if he wants to trade him, I don’t think Guillen can do anything in September to change that.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 13, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, looks like KU choked away this one

South Florida 37
Kansas 34

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 12, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh... Cue Joel Appearance

I wonder if Gload poured beer all over himself int he locker room and taunted, um, Alex, maybe?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 12, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would Alex care he went to Nebraska

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Sep 13, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Closest thing Gload could find to a Jayhawk

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably got them mixed up with Florida International when making the schedule

No way KU scheduled a ranked non-conference opponent on purpose.

I hope Mangino threw a fit a the game so that he gets banned, like he was from his kid’s football games.

Another class act.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 13, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They already played Florida International

Great game

It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.

by kcscoliny on Sep 13, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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