Game 147 Open Thread - Royals (62-84) at Indians (72-74)
by Freneau on Sep 13, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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This is your game one Open Thread, we'll have another one for game two.
Your pitching matchup is Greinke (3.70 ERA) v. Carmona (4.88 ERA).
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first!
but I don’t know if I can bear a whole game, much less a double header
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
no, I really don't like the Huskers
it goes back to grad school days when Nebraska would come to Lawrence and put a whooping on the Jayhawks, and Dr. Tom would say “Well, we needed to kick that last field goal because you never know when a team might come back.” – right Tom 38-0 at half time. I also get cranky at all the press they get in this state, as if there is nothing else going on anywhere. I do pay attention and am glad that Bill C. is gone.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
In The Old
Big 8 days I always favored the Huskers over the Sooners; the Jayhawks were, with rare exception, irrelevant and K-State was fun at times (Dickey, Herron, Grogan) but they rarely approached .500.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
when I started at KU, the football team was good and was
leading Oklahoma at half-time. Nolan Cromwell, the quarterback blew out his knee, and they stunk the rest of the year. One person doomed the team.
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Like when MITCH took that pitch to the face
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly what I thought at the time
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I Remember It
Well. I even kind of liked the Rams while Cromwell played there. Wasn’t his backup QB at KU Scott McMichaels?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Too much football on to pay attention to both games
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ESPN's gameday lineups
1. D. DeJesus, LF
2. M. Aviles, SS
3. J. Guillen, RF
4. B. Butler, DH
5. M. Teahen, 3B
6. R. Gload, 1B
7. A. Callaspo, 2B
8. J. Buck, C
9. M. Maier, CF
I hate Gload, Kila better start the second game
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This makes no
sense at all. Why is Ross Gload still getting starts at 1B…..i am beginning to think that Hillman is a moron.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean seriously....
why don’t we give ABs to the younger players. Can’t GMDM just tell HIllman to bench Gload. This really fires me up.
I don't know if that lineup is 100% accurate that is just what ESPN had listed
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That's the lineup
Why isn’t Gordon in there also?
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they don't
want to put Gordon on a wet field with a bad leg. Make sense to me.
by gordonrules on Sep 13, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ya that does make sense now that i think about it
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Yeah....i saw
it there too. That is why i came on here to see if anyone was as upset as i was.
Same lineup
on MLB.com…..what an absolute joke.
ya i can't believe how clueless this organization is.
you have a good opportunity to checkout a LH power hitter and instead you play a joke of a 1b like Gload.
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Don't want to overexpose him against a stud like Carmona with his
4.88 ERA andf 4.90 FIP.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That FIP is lower than Banny's
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude has no idea where the ball is going these days
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What's bizarre
is that, as I mentioned in another thread, as of last night
Banny: 4.88 FIP
Dice-K: 4.88 FIP
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
There are some things FIP
is going to miss. I don’t know if there’s any other pitcher in the league who can get awya with Dice-K’s pitching style this year, but he’s made it work well enough that it this point it’s ridiculous to expect him to regress to an ERA near his FIP. The guy has just been really “good at nibbling” this year and pretty lucky with men on base. The thing is, he has such good stuff that not all of that can be luck.
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NO WAY!!!!!111 Banny is totally as good as Dice-K!!111
I was just shocked when I saw that.
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know that you realized
there’s a big difference between the two.
As I mentioned ad nauseum in the Bannister thread, FIP and PERA are going to miss some things. No stat’s perfect, that’s why we use eleventy billion.
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"No stat’s perfect,"
but that won’t keep the stat-heads from looking…
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I don't post as
much as most people on here, but i am one of the biggest Ross Gload haters. No bat….overrated defensively. You can always teach someone defense at 1B and they can become gold glovers. Pujols was average at best defensively when he came up and now look at him. I am so tired of Gload’s weak flairs and groundouts.
Totally agree
from what I’ve watch of Billy at 1b has been good enough. He has great hands and similar range to Gload I just don’t understand this organization. We can blame Hillman all we want but if GMDM wanted Kila to play he could make it happen. TOTAL JOKE
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Absolutely
oh well…..time for some football. see you later.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well now
that i have ranted i can go back to watching football and listening to the game on the radio.
I seem too recall a quote from hillman telling poor ol Russie that he wasn't going to play as much,
just in the outfield and he was going to platoon shealy/kila.. guess that changed huh.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
looks like rain throughout the day
don’t know how they will get these games in
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Same Lineup On
Yahoo.
D. DeJesus lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
M. Aviles ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .317
J. Guillen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .261
B. Butler dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
M. Teahen 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .248
R. Gload 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .270
A. Callaspo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .293
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .220
M. Maier cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .339
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
that lineup would not be too bad if someone else was in that 1B slot
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Sorry guys,
but MITCH in CF is not exactly great either.
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At least CF is a position where defense matters significantly
It actually improves the team in an area over DDJ’s defense.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I think DDJ should be playing anywhere but CF full-time
just that Mitch at CF is preferable to Ross at 1B. Or in the Outfield. Or on the 40-man roster.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
John Bucks last 154 games
.620 OPS and 18% Caught Stealing
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anything about zero would be an improvement
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Gload is the glue
that keeps this team together.
He’s earned it.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Anyone watching Cal-Maryland?
35-20 Terps, 2 minutes left. Would be a big upset.
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35-27 is going to be the final. Yay Terps!
And we didn’t score. A shocker.
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we are awesomely aggressive
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Who else votes for Zack to get shut down after this inning?
Thus, his season will be over.
Thus, DMGM can get cracking on that long-term deal.
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
Dayton probably too busy negotiating the route to think about resigning THE ROYALS BEST PLAYER
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Greinke's VORP
has inched back towards No. 1 territory. Keep racking up those Ks, Zack.
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He's really fucking awesome
Also: Roy Halladay is a badass, David Ortiz is large, world is round,
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see Meche and Greinke finish above .500 with 200+ IP
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Franklin Gutierrez
Any chance the Indians non-tender him? I know his bat has been really disappointing, but I can see him being a useful option as a 4th outfielder/platoon guy given his defense and “upside potential.”
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He's a useful guy against lefties,
it seems. I wouldn’t bet on a non-tender, though, considering he can be brought back pretty cheaply.
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Very Very doubtful
under 2 years of service time around 500K.
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Reply to both
Yeah, it’s too bad Shapiro has a hold of him, and not Jim Bowden
I’d say “BIll Smith,” but Smith loves toolsy guys who don’t produce. Gutierrez would be starting over Kubel in Minny.
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh crap
the Sox-BJs game is on TBS. I hope it’s not Chip Caray.
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Good thing J. P. didn't do something stupid
like trade for Adam Dunn or sign Barry Bonds to DH. Probably wouldn’t have made much of a difference for the Jays this year, huh?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit! Even Burnett is turning it on...
Imagine if they’d just signed Bonds. Then Imagine McGowan doesn’t get hurt… Would they be winning the East now?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd be a lot closer
I don’t know if they’d be winning with that lineup, even with Bonds. It still would’ve been interesting.
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well, if McGowan had stayed healthy, too, then maybe the division
Don’t you think just Bonds would add at least three wins over Stewart/Wilkerson/Mench? Wouldn’t that put them in reasonable distance of the wild card at this point in the year?
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
welcome back, Mitch!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Mitch Maier was an extra in the movie Singles
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I'll be back
I have to go drop off my lazy friend’s laptop.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
is that what she said?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
See ya, I might be gone when you get back (sniff)
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I've taken quite a liking to MITCH
even though he’s a rich man’s Joey Gathright without the steals
I think it’s because he looks like a generic white ballplayer
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And you forgot Ducky
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again, the Glass-mandated $1000 bonus strategy is vindicated
Hosmer, Gordon, Moustakas = waste of $14 million
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Total Waste of Money
what are the chances any of them out homer Brett, maybe 1/100
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IF THEY AREN'T BRETT THEY'RE CRAP
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon, JoGui
Every Home Run brings you closer to getting out of KC and taking (most of) your salary with you?
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Bases Loaded Bam Bam
No Pressure, mmm Baconators
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I don't care about plate patience at this point for JoGui
He’d better be swinging for the fence every time up. I can even live with the injustice of him breaking Sweeney’s “record” for HRs (any Guillen-better-than-Sweeney stuff makes me want to puke)… just drive up that trade value.
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Marky-mark inside-the-parker
you read it here first
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Hey Marky Mark whatyaknow
trade him now while the market is high
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3 plays at the plate in 2 days
ROYALS BASEBALL !!!
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Hey, at least Gload is leading off next inning
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Just picture the ball is your special lady, Alberto
CHARACTER GUYS
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hey
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
could've we just taken that half inning off
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I thought they did
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by Matt Klaassen on Sep 13, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
two days off in a row during championship series
Wonder if that will change the pitching matchups?
Go Royals!
its giving Herrera alot of time off
don’t know if they could bring back Gutierrez or not but he could definitely pitch game 4 if needed.
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Because Minor League Baseball isn't a real sport
they called off the rest of the series and declared the Bees champions.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Thank god we had Gload
to catch that throw. Butler would’ve fallen on his face and died.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
at least either that or created a blackhole
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Certainly Not A
White dwarf.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I love NOT watching these games too!
(also, hi minda)
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I hate to toot my own horn here,
but I’m going to anyway…I ranted pretty hard at a mlb.com customer service rep, and you read about it here.
Toot toot!
That's...um...rather annoying
Minnesota at Baltimore looks like a good dame, though! :P
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I wonder why they have Carroll hitting behind Sizemore
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that must be why
Buck calls Great Games
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its not bandwagoning
if one of my teams (UCLA)is getting crushed and I start watching something I had no plans of watching today right?
Go Royals!
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Why the fuck are we throwing 1-1 change ups to jamey carroll?
Why are we intentionally walkin Grady sizemore with 1 on two outs?
What the fuck stupid pitching
realistically speaking
Why would you ever throw a change up to Carroll
Genius Buck/Greinke
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
It doesn't make any sense at all, just retarded pitch calling
Whole mess got started because he had to get cute throwing a 1-2 68mph curveball to Asdrubal F’ing Cabrera when he’d only shown him one FB int he whole AB…. just idiotic
realistically speaking
Two things
1. I don’t think it’s Greinke’s call to intentionally walk Sizemore.
2. Greinke is probably throwing a 1-1 changeup in an attempt to get Jamey Carroll out. It didn’t work. That happens. It wasn’t necessarily a terrible choice.
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It wasn't technically intentional, but it was a pretty obvious pitch around
realistically speaking
Yes okay,
but who would you rather face with runners on, Sizemore or Carroll? What with how unbalanced that choice is, I don’t mind the walk there.
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I agree with the walk too
but I don’t like the pitch selection to Carroll.
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With two outs, just no.
There was a runner on first base, 2 outs. Runner on second 2 outs, fine, walk Sizemore. First, no.
realistically speaking
Obviously I'd rather him get Sizemore out
but once he falls behind I’d rather the walk than an XBH, and Sizemore hits the ball hard a lot.
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When you are throwing mid 90's against a guy with little to no power
you don’t speed up his bat especially after throwing a breaking ball on the previous pitch
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Hindsight's 20-20
Zack knows what he’s doing. That was obviously a mistake pitch, but I’m not going to quibble over pitch selection.
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Ever think he MIGHT have been trying
to fool Carroll sitting on a fastball? C’mon guys, it’s hardly as if Greinke’s out there going “yep, time to speed up Jamey’s bat!”
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
You forget
Every time a professional baseball player fails to execute, it’s because he’s stupid.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
now batting Kila...
I mean ROSS GLOAD!
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
How many outs at the plate this inning by the royals:?
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
And Makes Expensive
Shoes, too.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Exgloasion In Progress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
OH my god....
Gload with an rbi single…..must have been a slow roller.
I think it deflected off the catcher's mask
but everyone thought it was off the bat.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Broken Bat Blooper
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We definitely picked up
some advice from the Twins
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Ryan said it perfectly
the Royals are gonna go up their hackin
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Can we just have Buck bunt
realistically speaking
He was trying
nothing like putting a bad hitter in a bad hitters count
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Whatever Dude has been garbage pretty much all year
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
DFAing serves absolutely no useful purpose
there’s no one to replace him on the roster, and his track record suggests he’ll bounce back a bit. If not, oh well. He’s cheap.
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Track record????.....
now that’s funny. What track record? That he will strike out again. He is garbage.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't bring a knife to a roster decision fight
Buck was around league average last year, and has been in consistent “not the problem” territory in the past. Will he ever be a big plus? No. Is he a fine placeholder until we develop a catcher who is? Yep.
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DFA was a joke
but nontendering him is a definite option if they can resign Olivo. His track record speaks of falling off a cliff IMO
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Maybe
his PECOTA long term is better than Olivo’s. Olivo is older, and IMO any difference between him and Buck is not worth the extra money it’ll take to bring back Miggi.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
You might be right but Buck seems to be falling apart
his arm is shot and I understand Olivo is older but he hasn’t caught that many more games if you look at their record and he seems to be in better shape
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Maybe
I’m not betting on Olivo next year being an improvement over Buck. One of the reasons that Olivo has better numbers this year is because of him squirreling away a lot of ABs vs. lefties. Olivo’s older, has less plate discipline, and will probably cost more. I think letting him walk is the right thing to do.
Long term, we need a real catching prospect to replace these guys.
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And short term
we need neither of them. We can put you in at catcher.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Bucks splts vs lefties aren’t all that though. With Bucks declining arm I would probably wanna keep him. Our pitchers aren’t very good at holding runners on IMO
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Buck has hit pretty well vs, lefties
relative to his overall line.
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I wasn't too impressed by his vs. Lefty line
I think his body is grinding to a halt. He has fallin not just off the table in the 2nd half the last two years but off the hemisphere.
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
On a side note
Milton Bradley just got ejected. Not only can he not play hurt, but when finally feels like he is healthy enough to play he gets tossed. Pathetic.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
John Buck has
been a prospect for years……he is done. Get rid of him…..i am tired of waiting. Plus he has a huge head.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Buck is not a prospect anymore
that’s a misuse of the term. DFAing him without any discernable chance of improving on him is a bad idea.
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Ok sorry....
he has had potential for years and he still doesn’t get it. Quit wasting your time defending him.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll decide how to spend my time,
you worry about yours. You might spend it constructing better arguments, for example.
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And what arguments
can be possibly made about his “track record”. You really need to relax if you honestly think i was telling you what to do with your time. Calm down ok.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hate it
when people tell me to calm down because they assume that someone who is disagreeing with them must not be calm.
What arguments can possibly be made about his track record? Plenty, but I doubt you’re interested in anything logical. How about the fact that Buck was a league average catcher last year, is usually pretty solid defensively, and isn’t very expensive? Also, we have no catching depth in the organization beyond Pena who might be a solid backup. Do those count as arguments, or would you rather disregard all that and tell me I’m not calm?
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Please be logical with me
in defending him. Most catchers are cheap so that point is moot. But when you do CALM DOWN ok….tyvm.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I am being logical
you’re just not passing reading comprehension at the moment.
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OK....
so yes he is cheap….does that mean we should be forced to keep him. He is obviously not progressing. Yes we have no organizational depth, but that doesn’t mean we have to keep him. We can sign another crappy player just as cheap. But obviously i am stupid. Thank you for being the wise one.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
No,
we should keep him just because he’s cheap. We should keep him because he’s cheap, is usually a league average-ish player, and we have no one better in the organization. Why would we bother going out to get “another crappy player” outside of the organization?
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I just think
that we have given him enough time. Time to part ways, but we will just agree to disagree.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What I don't get
given your opinion, is who you think is going to replace him next year who will be better. Pena? No. Olivo? Maybe, but he’ll cost more and he probably won’t want to resign anyway.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Well to me
it doesn’t matter. Just someone else. I honestly haven’t looked at the free agents so …..but i am just done watching him have no plan in any at bat. Just looks lost to me.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh,
see the reason I don’t really get your argument? It’s really because it’s hard for me to follow an “anyone but Buck” campaign when there’s no one better anyway.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
That's fine....
to each his own. No worries.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
But why call for the team to "sign someone else"
When you don’t even know who (if anyone) is available? I don’t disagree that John Buck isn’t the best long-term answer, but shouldn’t you at least check out the FA market for catchers before you argue that the team needs to sign some other cheap catcher this winter?
Why would
I “have” to check it out…..sorry i haven’t looked at the free agent catchers, but thankfully i am not the GM. I mean if it is that important to you that i know, i can definitely go look at the list. LOL.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking
a Paul Bako and Jason LaRue platoon.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Ok well
i have to go. Some important free agent catcher information to find out. A must. You guys have a good one.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty annoying, if you ask me,
when people decide you’re not calm because you disagree with them. I mean, I must be foaming at the mouth right now, eh?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
At a certain point you stop calling it a head and it is referred to as a melon
I’m not sure the cutoff but he certainly has reached it as has Fulchino
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
If you seriously think
that the cases of Buck and Fulchino resemble each other, that’s just laughable.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yes Fulchino's Melon is Gigantic he might have crossed into
Heed zone ala So I married an Axe murderer
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
LMAO
he has a huge heed….that’s hilarious.
by powder blues on Sep 13, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Fulchino, I thought of as Pumpkinhead
but then we disagree a lot, don’t we? :P
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
whatever I know this
I would rather have Fulchinos head full of nickels
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
but once again, tremendous failure to execute = fail
realistically speaking
Carmona: 14 ground ball outs, 1 fly ball
We’re lucky to have 4 runs
realistically speaking
For having really good stuff, Zack has given up a ton of hits this year
realistically speaking
How bad did that play look?
I can’t wait until 45 minutes after the game’s conclusion to watch it.
(Yes, I’m bitter. Stupid mlb.com.)
im not sure, im watching gameday..
but im more upset with the throwing error. it might have been a very difficult play and he let the runners advance to third and 2nd.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
What a disaster.
What does greinke have to do to win a game?
realistically speaking
This is the point in the game that
KC blows a lead for Greinke
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
How is that run even earned?
realistically speaking
Can we advance the runner?!
realistically speaking
Toronto is just slaughtering teams lately.. whats up with that,
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
Their pitching staff is absolutely amazing
realistically speaking
Where is Kila when we need him
realistically speaking
Thank you, Eric Wedge
for leaving Carmona in to do that. 5-3 good guys!
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Fox just had the Phillies hitting coach on air for an interview
He talked about taking pitches, good on base percentages… I almost cried in jealousy
realistically speaking
what are you talkin about 3 walks today
this team is on a 5k pace
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
That was an amazing AB by teahen
realistically speaking
Why not pinch hit Shealy
nevermind Gload came thru
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
that's why he's in the lineup kids
realistically speaking
Jason Smith pinch running for billy butler
Hillman knows its only a 3 run lead with 3 innings to play right
realistically speaking
maybe he plans on putting Kila in that spot
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
For the Love of Gload!
Please give Kila some at bats already, Trey. Jeebus.
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He's gotta start the 2nd game right?
Hell DH him and put shealy in at first, butler can sit one out if that’s what it takes
realistically speaking
Wow
Callaspo, Gload, Aviles, Guillen, and Teahen (3!) all with multhit games. DDJ has a hit and a walk. Butler has two walks. What the hell?
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Even buck in on the action
realistically speaking
That had to be the most productive 2 out rally of the year
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
Is Bale signed for next year?
realistically speaking
I know it's completely irrational,
but I have become an active John Bale fan this year.
I really want the guy to do well.
Isn't he just going to arbitration?
I’m not sure what his service time is…
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yah, should be pretty cheap to prospect with
Go Royals!
Yeah I don't know what the Royals'll
do. He was already making, what, 2 mil? So I guess he’d still around that level, and it seems pretty borderline whether he’s worth that given GMDM’s ability to build a good ’pen without shelling out dough.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
i lost faith when he punched a wall.. i don't think that was very smart.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
LOL the Pac-10 is getting squashed in football right now
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Based on the mood in this thread
I have determined that we’re losing 8-3.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Actually, now that I think on it
I’m damned mad. How are we supposed to lose 100 games now?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
You mean we're NOT
getting the top draft pick?!! (foam)
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Maybe it's helping us win
You know, like Hoagy’s leadership.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Based on that Inning,
Bale should be return to KC in ’09
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
probably right
hillman doesn’t care for Yimmy
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
Can't we have to effective left handed batter killers? or is that too much?
We can’t forget Ron mahay..
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
Its just Bucks turn on the merrygodown
no biggie
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
wow, I leave for a party down the street and all hell breaks out!
go Royals. Blue Pride
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
no, but Kenneth was there
he still doesn’t know what the frequency is.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
If Jason Smith comes up to hit instead of Kila
Hillman should be fired
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
i bet he just leave J.Smith in to make an entertaining K
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
I'd be more worried about not getting a hit
outs are outs.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I know
Tim McCarver and his amazing “contact percentage” stat would not be proud.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Guillen K's
will we strand a runner at third, no outs?
I understand this guy has some pop off the bench
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
According to the guy on CNN
they are JUST NOW uncovering the devastation from Ike. JUST NOW.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
I JUST NOW
realized that FEMA didn’t do a good job in New Orleans.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Yeah? Well I JUST NOW
invested in “steamboats,” as they’re clearly the wave of the the future.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I'll Take My
Sophomore Geometry teacher at Wyandotte; she was awesome.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
She's Probably A
Toothless hag by now, but she wasn’t bad to look at and she taught Geometry well.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I had great math teachers in high school
they made us do homework every night! we despised them at the time, but when I was a freshman in college, I noticed that I already knew all the stuff in Calculus, even though I never took a class called that in high school.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I Tool Calculus
And Trig my junior year at Topeka West, but I hated the teacher and didn’t need any more math so I dropped it. I could have graduated a semester early if I’d stuck it out.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
most schools would expel you
for sticking it out
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
"Tool" s/b "Took"
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah? Well I JUST NOW
invented a time machine and used it to REINVENT geometry so that it MAKES SENSE.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
That's what you WOULD say
as the inventor of geometry.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I almost have the internet perfected
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
what an amazing coincidence!
do you like to eat ho-ho’s with syrup too?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
how would you field dress that sucker?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
and I JUST NOW found out that bush hates Black People.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
Great author, and his aphorisms are gold
one of my favorites. Wish I got to read him for class.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Indeed,
I had read most of his work by the time i went to college but it would of been interesting study in school.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
What with the CRAP I read for my major
it’d be refreshing. However, I would’ve hated being an english major and that’s the only place I think he’d fit in.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
He was completely absent in my psychology degree courses. haha.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
Letting smith bat here is criminal
Seriously, no Kila? What the fuck trey?
realistically speaking
I really don't get why
we’re even carrying Jason Smith on the roster. Anything he can do, Bat Flip can do better.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
god forbid we give an at bat to shealy or kila
MUST KEEP IN WASHED UP WHITE NEVER HAS BEEN
realistically speaking
someone on 810 was doggin Trey one night for keeping Joey in to hit
and trey turned around and said what do you want me to do put in Smith?
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
I think Trey thinks he is being loyal, rather, he is being stupid
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
He didn't want to use Kila or Shealy because...
he didn’t want to take a risk of having only 2 1B/DH’s left on the bench.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
Well, that was annoying
at least we’re already up five. That would’ve been a lot more painful in a close game.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Its still painful
It was obvious to everyone in the world but Trey to PH for Jason Smith
Go Royals!
It's painful
that anyone thinks Jason Smith is worth anything.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
his mother thinks he is special
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
No, that's Gload's job, needs to keep it clean for when he kisses it afterwards.
realistically speaking
I think HoRam probably stole the toilet paper
on his way out anyway.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
We should like TPJ play all for infield positions next inning. See what he's made of.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
liked your comment on the pitching post
I made.
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
Every time CNN interviews someone who didn't evacuate
they ask, “Do you have kids?” in that “If you say yes, someone should shoot you” tone.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
CNN reporter "So, we understand that a hurricane might have come thru here"
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
crap, local radio station has gone over to Husker coverage
blahhhhhh
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
MLB = morons
They should never have agreed to a deal which would black out the FOX window on Saturdays FOX wasn’t even going to bother showing baseball.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
No.
Our fans are so disgusted by our performance in game 1 that the team is committing seppuku.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
the Indians are pouting and refusing to come out for another game
babies
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
When you're robbed of victory
after having so clearly outplayed your opposition, that happens.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Are you really saying that the Indians outplayed the Royals in game 1?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I didn't see the game
but after reading this thread when I got here, I was sure we were losing.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Ah, I see
Yes, game threads often bear scant resemblance to the actual game.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to defend my boy John Buck
that had something to do with the unpleasantness. It was his turn to get dumped on today (Teahen had too good a game for anyone to go after him).
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Heh
I really can’t get onboard with that. I don’t know why Smith and Gload play to begin with, so any “why are we not PHing?” arguments make me shrug. We are we playing them to begin with? That’s why we’re not PHing for them.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
I'm glad I missed this game thread
…as I usually am.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to admit that often times the thread
is more entertaining than the game.
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
A crazed, visceral kind of entertainment
Not for the weak of heart or weak of stomach.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
well, the tangents can be fun
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I still suffer
from emotional scars from that game.
Accidentally not thedude925 anymore. I do hate this new name.
Hey I was really happy with how we played
I just have a lot of time on my hands and no stomach for Buck bashing (especially in light of plausible alternatives).
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
John Buck apologist
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
That's me, I'll happily admit
but I’m also a realist. We give up Buck, and we replace him…with…oh…wait…maybe we shouldn’t.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Huber! Now!
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Former BRAVE
that’s a bad idea, obviously.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
by NHZ on Sep 13, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
shouldn't we keep Yimmy
now that Trey has a glimmer of an idea of what a LOOGY might be?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
I don't trust his glimmer
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be okie-dokie with me
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
Miguel Olivo!
I see a lot of “non-tender Buck and keep Olivo” comments. How exactly are we going to make that happen? There’s a mutual option and Olivo said he doesn’t want to come back? Should we fight for a rule change back to the old reserve clause?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate you fighting the good fight
I’ve given up at trying to tilt at windmills in game threads.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by Scott McKinney on Sep 13, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
"BREAKING NEWS"
There was a train crash last night!
I can’t believe I used to get my paychecks from the same place as these turds.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
OT - I can't believe how bad Michigan is this year?
The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib
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