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"Jose Guillen was scratched because of a late managerial decision, the rest will be kept in-house" - Trey Hillman

As reported by Neal and Marty on 610 about 5 minutes ago.

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I need more details!!! This is our very own soap opera! MORE!

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 16, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Controverseyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trade Jose Guillen!

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 16, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Dutton gets to the bottom of this

And airs out alllll the filthy details in tomorrow’s Star. It’s been way too long since our last player/Hillman bitchfight…oh wait.

by minda33 on Sep 16, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Dutton never gets to the bottom of anything

The KC Star sports writers don’t do investigative journalism. If the organization doesn’t want something to come out, it won’t come out. Dutton, Mellinger and co. don’t rock the boat.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 16, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really see investigative journalism as a requisite for sports writing

Perhaps I am underselling the position a bit, but even still, I don’t think the KC Star is behind their peers on this one.

But to compare Dutton or Mellinger to Kaegel is laughable - that guy is a mouthpiece for the organization.

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by marbotty on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

On the other hand, Mellinger did call the Guillen signing “great” and asked where the Royals woud be without him.

Well, they might have won one less game, and they’d be $36 million richer, and able to sign 2 free agent hitters next season, instead of one.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really see investigative journalism as a requisite for sports writing

It is a requisite for good sports journalism. In short you can either just report what the organization gives you or try to find out what is really going on. The KC Star does only the former and none of the latter.

Perhaps I am underselling the position a bit, but even still, I don’t think the KC Star is behind their peers on this one.

No, I think they are just as bad as their peers on this one. Beat writers almost always just go with the flow and work with the organization. They don’t dig. They don’t rock the boat.

But to compare Dutton or Mellinger to Kaegel is laughable – that guy is a mouthpiece for the organization.

To imply that the journalism that any of those three men practice is anything other than being a mouthpiece for the organization is laughable.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 17, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

For comparison's sake

Here is Mellinger’s article on the how the Royals short- and long-term chances of contention are viewed inside and outside of he organization (contains photo of Dayton Moore looking about 55).

There there is his blog about the HIllman-Guillen “sickness” mystery.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting blog entry

“Well, in the last few weeks, maybe longer, Hillman has been a different guy. As Poz wrote in the column linked above, he’s been closer to the star manager with enormous potential that Dayton Moore saw and loved and hired in Japan.”

Good to hear. Wonder what spurred the change. Perhaps Pos calling him out in his column?

If we can dump Guillen this winter, and maybe shake up this roster a bit, perhaps Trey can win a second chance to win back this clubhouse. I’d like to see it happen.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 17, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen Mysteriously scratched...

Will he suffer a mystery DL aliment now???

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Sep 16, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

nah...whoever he punched will though...

good news…trey’s latest dramafest led to a kila appearance

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Sep 16, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem

Trey left the wrong brand of chocolates by JoGui’s locker. And JoGui likes roses, but NOT yellow roses. Dammit Trey, it’s been almost 6 months, if you don’t know him by now…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

You Will Never

Ever, ever know him; oooooooooooooohhhh!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on Sep 17, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The truth

will be told

Alex Gordon in '08

by RoyalJHWKR on Sep 17, 2008 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Why the heck didn't Hillman just say that?

This is all because Dayton gave in to fan pressure and called Kila up…

CONFUSION IN THE CLUBHOUSE!!!!!!!!11111

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hosey had been too quiet?

Seems like Hillman is kicking a sleeping dog. Not sure why he felt the need to generate a drama when Guillen is apparently content to cover whatever happened. If you are going to handle it “in house” then do so. Otherwise, you’re just grandstanding.

I expect that Guillen will be back next year, so we might as well come to grips with that now. I know you guys aren’t into counting stats, but 20+HRs and 100 RBI do mean something. And both are something the Royals haven’t had in years. If they were out there and willing to come to the Royals, Moore would have spent more than the 12M he gave Guillen to get them here.

by Big Guy on Sep 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

By that 20/100 standard, he’s a poor man’s (well, a poor man with $36 million burning a hole in his pocket) 2004 Tony Batista.

Here’s another counting stat for you on Jose’s indispensability. Through sheer effort and grit, he is more than half as valuable as Mark Grudzelaniak this yaer, in only 215 more plate appearances!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeast infection?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 17, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ew

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 17, 2008 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like this "big spat" is about as big as the last one

Guillen back in the lineup tonight, per the Royals website

DeJesus CF
Aviles SS
Guillen RF
Shealy 1B
Butler DH
Teahen 3B
Buck C
Callaspo 2B
German LF

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 17, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think that necessarily means

All is well.

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 18, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't necessarily mean that

The benching also doesn’t necessarily mean that there is a huge problem in the clubhouse which is tearing this team apart. Rumors are fun. They snowball because they are interesting. They feed on themselves. Many fans don’t like Guillen, so they are eager to believe that he is always causing big problems and destroying the team.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 18, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair

Although there aren’t specifics on what they are, the “special treatment” stuff does come from people like Mellinger whom you earlier characterized as never putting out anything the organization doesn’t want to get out. Posnanski has also made comments about this, I believe.

that doesn’t mean he’s “destroying the clubhouse,” but it does seem that there are people within the organization — not just the fans — who see Guillen as getting away with stuff others wouldn’t.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 18, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, I buy that

So it appears that some people don’t like Guillen getting special treatment. Is that a problem? Is it a big problem? Is it even significant? I’ve had jobs where I and others thought that some favorites of the boss got special treatment. We didn’t like it, but it didn’t tear the organization apart. It didn’t keep us from doing out jobs well.

There is some dissatisfaction in every major league clubhouse. I see a lot of fans assuming that Guillen is a major source of dissension, distraction and more that is hurting the team. I just don’t see the evidence of that. Guillen’s $12M salary, .740 OPS and poor defense is hurting the team. The rest is much ado about the kind of pointless bullshit that fans love to obsess over.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Sep 18, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mostly agree

and you’re right (elsewhere), I’ve been harping on this a bit lately. Performance/salary are the main problems and dwarf the other. I do think that there is some reason to be frustrated by Guillen’s special treatment, but I’ve been beating the Guillen train into the ground lately, so maybe another time?

In short, my concern is that a bad clubhouse environment in general (whoever is responsible) might make it harder to extend the younger players, and that the word getting out might also make is harder to sign free agents in the future. But I did say I would drop it for now…

So I’m dropping it.

Now.

For real.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by Matt Klaassen on Sep 18, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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