New Rany post
Some highlights:
- The Royals are having one of their best months (record-wise) this decade.
- DeJesus is good, but may be more valuable to a contender who needs a CFer. But the Royals would need the right kind of return to make a trade worthwhile.
- Guillen is streaky and has the potential to have a good 2009 season if he stays in shape and is relatively healthy
- Teahen would make a good 4-corner utility player and is a pretty decent trade commodity. He'd better not play 3B for the Royals next year.
- Callaspo has looked pretty good, but he has limited skills, needs a fairly high BA and looks like a borderline starter/utility man.
- German is still a pretty good utility man
- Gordon is hitting well and still has big upside.
- Kila's HR was pretty
over 3 years ago
Scott McKinney
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Rany Has Been
Watching the same team I have been watching. I still hold out hope for Teahen to be a legit starter, but it’s probably just wishful thinking.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 24, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions
I love it, best piece by Rany in a while
(not that he’s been bad)
I almost posted a comment, but I save my “best material” for you all. Aren’t you happy?
All the Royals have to do is elminate Guillen’s bad streaks and he’ll be decent? That should be easy! Imagine how good A-Rod would be if his worst month(s) each year were as good as his good months!
STREAKY HITTER IS STREAKY
They should try that for Teahen, Gordon and everyone else. Write this down: eliminate bad months in favor of better months = AL Central TItle 2009.
NYRoyal, I’m sure you dressed him down good for thinking that coming into camp out-of-shape effected Guilen’s performance this year.
I wonder what they can do to make him not one of the worst defenders in the league?
But (a bit more) seriously, I do think that JoGui can come to camp ready to start raking. Bill James wrote somewhere that month-by-month splits don’t’ have much predictive power. Maybe this isn’t what he meant. Believe it or not, my perference would be for JoGui to be a 110 OPS+ guy again and stick with the Royals, as long as he plays the field (even if he delivers his team-worst D again). The Royals could use that in the #5 spot in this lineup. I just don’t think the odds are that he can deliver that over a full season anymore. So, more realistically, I hope he comes out hot pre All-Star break and the Royals can dump his salary. As discussed last night on the game thread, once you take into account defense, JoGui has probably been less than half a win better than Teahen this year.
Thanks, Rany, for echoing what I’ve been saying about Esty all year.
Potential new signature?
If Gordon moves to first base next year, then Moore and Hillman deserve to be fired. Preferably from a cannon.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
"preference"
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Does JoGui's performance in Sept
Dampen thoughts of trading him? I still would like very much to deal him this winter. I don’t think he’s that good offensively, I think he’s a negative influence on our younger player – both by being a jerk and by having awful plate discipline, and I think he is wildly overpaid. I’m glad he has had a good September – it may make it more possible to trade him.
But have others changed their mind with suddenly good Guillen?
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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 24, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No
I still feel the same way I did before. Just based on performance and projection, even if JoGui was an angel in the clubhouse and a good example, I’d want him salary dumped ASAP so that his salary could be used for a player who was at least average, for example. Just to beat it into the ground — every metric I’ve seen has his defense almost as bad as Dunn/Burrell/Ibanez, so why not exchange that bad defense for a guy equally bad in the field who can actually hit? Failing that, perhaps use it to bribe Paul DePodesta to come in as a “Consultant.”

Mr. Barnett, what exactly is it that you would say you do here?
It’s about performance for me. However, while I agree that a guy’s personality/clubhouse issues are almost always overblown, I don’t think they should be dismissed as just “stupid stuff only fans care about.” Let me see if I can put it in a way that will make this point.
In this case, the other players see a guy who management makes the highest-salaried player on the team and even the mouthpieces for the franchise at the Star say that he has a separate set of rules. Hey, that’s not great, but it’s not the end of the world. People have to live with that at work every day.
The problem is that JoGui, I think we can all agree, hasn’t quite performed on the Bonds/Manny/Clemens “we can put up with this crap” level. Maybe I’m wrong, but bear with me. The other players see that. They probably don’t look at VORP and Dewan’s, and so on. But I’m pretty sure Zack Greinke, to take a very pertinent example, recognizes that he’s been significantly better for the team than Jose Guillen this year. I know that the org was good to him before (of course, that was the previous admin). I don’t know what Zack thinks, but I wouldn’t blame him for wondering why this dude, who’s getting more money than everyone else, who comes to camp overweight, who bitches and moans about everything, who throws his teammates under the bus, who gets special rules, who lets singles fall in front of him that Emil Brown might have at least gotten close enough to to make an error, who leads the team in GiDPs, gets all the special treatment. I carried that out to far, but I can’t help but think that isn’t going to make re-signing Zack any easier this offseason. That’s the most obvious case. And, look, I dunno, maybe other guys get that special treatment as well — but remember, we’ve all been told how the Star doesn’t print anything that the org doesn’t want to get out, and wouldn’t they want to make their signing of Guillen look good?
There have been people on this very board who talk about how the younger players need to be held to accountable for their play and to know their jobs are in danger. How are they supposed to feel that when the highest payed guy on the team, who isn’t one of the five best hitters, and barely one of the 10 best players (best on this year’s numbers) never gets benched, misses stuff others would get fined for, or whatever is going on? How do you think they feel when they watch Guillen talk trash to the fans, get to DH against lefties (with Butler on the bench) so that he can pad his stats, and so on, then hear organzation mouthpiece George Brett go on the radio and intimate that Billy Butler got sent to Omaha for maturity issues?
Maybe fans shouldn’t care how they fell as long as they are performing — that’s fine. But I think it would be understandable if it makes it more difficult and/or more expensive to resign some of the younger guys because of it. And fans should care about that.
Anyway, I’ve made a mountain out of a molehill. Again, I don’t hate Guillen, and my lack of confidence in his future performance is the reason to try to trade him. Rany’s right, though, the best hope for getting rid of him is that he comes out firing on all cylinders in the spring. I hope he does.
My point is simply that, at least in one area — giving
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 24, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm, that last line was supposed to be edited out.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 24, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
#%^@&^%&!!!!
“paid” Believe it or not, English is my first language and I have graduated from eighth grade.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 24, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, dammit
when something doesn’t make sense, just alter it in the most generous way possible
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 24, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My greatest offseason hope is that the ghost of Roberto Clemente
visits JoGui in a dream and scares the bejesus out of him by taking him into the future to see what his legacy will be if he does not change his ways. JoGui will wake up in a cold sweat rededicated to getting in shape and rewriting his legacy…MVP-caliber seasons will ensue…
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Sep 24, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like that the post right before it
Has this quote from a colleague at BP:
“17 outs in 18 batters on 53 pitches. That’s less than three pitches a batter. I don’t care who you’re facing…that’s a team quitting right in front of you.”
Um, yea.
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Less than 3 pitches a batter?
At least they were putting the ball in play.
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Sep 24, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions













