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Bunts, Beanballs, Billy Butler: The 2008 Kansas City Royals and The Office

Ah, September. All too often since 1985, this has meant the end of the Royals' season is nigh. Yet, as so many have noted, this particular September has witnessed a streak of truly Royal proportions that has been shamefully neglected by the national media obsessed with irrelevant elections and minor financial hiccups. Nonetheless, the winning streak has encompassed developments that must thrill even the most jaded fans of the Kansas City Royals. To wit:

  • Zack Greinke's long-awaited ascension to ace-dom.
  • Gil Meche living up to his contract and then some.
  • Jose Guillen being the first Royal since Mike Sweeney in 2005 to break the 20 HR mark.
  • Alex Gordon's continued development and return from injury.
  • Ryan "Shane Spencer" Shealy's totally sustainable September performance.
  • The Guillen/Butler race to see who will be the Royals' 2008 GiDP leader.
  • Mike Aviles' inspiring run for AL Rookie of the Year in the face of longstanding pro-Tampa Bay media bias.
  • Kila Ka'aihue's call-up and first homer.
  • Brian Bannister going a whole game without surrendering a home run.
  • Jose Guillen's late-season, Dayton Moore-vindicating surge to get above replacement level.

Huh, that was longer than I expected.

It was really hard.

Are you surprised I didn't mention Mitch Maier's facial?

I hope I've left you satisfied and smiling.

It's always best to go for the big finish.

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THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

 

Yes, it's probably time for me to retire from (blank) (blank) (blank) (blank)ing, having killed the joke in its ironic (and increasingly non-ironic) form for myself. The mantle has been passed to others. Or something. I'll try to let it go with the conclusion of the Royals' 2008 season and move on to new pursuits, like watching more TV!

That's right, it's premiere season! And tonight is the first episode of Season Five of The Office. I'm not sure why the entire baseball blogdom (including this blog) is so into the show. Maybe it's just a reflection of the show's popularity in general. Maybe it is because one of The Office's (now former) writers is a pretty hilarious and influential baseball blogger himself. Maybe it's because Pam Beesley represents that seemingly-attainable-but-with-a-jerk pretty girl from high school whom so many bloggers in their basement failed to hook up with because so many of us were so nerdy and emo back then, and somehow still feel the need as nominal adults to vindicate our pathetic adolescent selves.*

*This would certainly explain the increasing preference for Toby over Jim.

But enough of the dime-store psychoanalysis. For the next few months, many of us are going to be spending more time pondering the crazy shenanigans Michael, Dwight, and the rest of the Dunder-Mifflin Scranton branch. But will this mean forgetting this awesome Royals season, with all its fascinating storylines and subplots? You wouldn't think so, but, heck, people have already forgotten the greatest series of seasons in baseball history, so I suppose it's even possible they'll forget the season in which Tony Pena, Jr. pitched a scoreless inning of relief and Trey Hillman dazzled the Midwest with the Eastern-derived managerial insight that led to over 400 Ross Gload plate appearances.

What can we do to remember this team of wacky rapscallions as the weeks and months between now and Spring Training pass us by? How about a combination of pop-culture pseudo-hipness combined with (yet) another staple of internet writing hackdom? The "matching up pop culture characters with sports characters" model is in effect. Let's match the 2008 Royals up to their respective Office-alikes. That's right, we're just getting started, so read on.

And if you think this is long, wait until you see the whole thing.

(or he said)

Star-divide

I've spent an embarrassing amount of time thinking about this. You'd think it would be better. But it is what it is.

Believe it or not, this was harder than it looks (...). I started out by trying to make the analogy/likeness/whatever consistent from player to player. This would then reflect how the players interact with each other in relation to how the show's characters do. Other resemblances would deal with each player individually, physical resemblance, how the audience sees them, etc. I finally decided it was too difficult and not worth it. What I'm trying to say is not to read too much into it -- particularly the relationships between characters when not explicitly mentioned. I just went player by player and did the best I could. Some take a little explanation and imagination. Others are what one might call a "no-brainer." If one is a dork.

I also finally decided that I couldn't use every player and character. Some just don't fit. So I'm sorry if anyone's offended I didn't find a way to work in Jeff Fulchino and the the woman who worked/works in the warehouse.

Woman who worked in the warehouse for an episode or two: Jeff Fulchino

Jim Halpert: Alex Gordon. One can make the argument on the basis of their respective position/expectation in their place of work, i.e., the "Golden Boy" status. Regular readers of this blog might see a parallel in certain writers' increasing disillusionment with both as both achieve success. One also note that both are seen as not caring about their jobs because of their body language/facial expressions, when, in fact, they outperform most of their interoffice peers. But really, the visual evidence speaks for itself.

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Kevin: Billy Butler.

Creed: Ross Gload

Meredith: Alberto Callaspo

Katy: Remember her? Jim's insanely hot girlfriend from a couple of episodes in the first two seasons? The one whom Pam not-so-subtley mocked during her "cruelly leading Jim on then leaving him twisting in the wind" phase? This person?

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This is another no-brainer. Who else seemingly played such a small part in our lives, and left us too soon? You guessed it:

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Julia Schultz (Tomko)! Believe it or not, this is pretty much the "safest" picture I could find of her that would fit on the page and successfully load.

 

Andy Bernard: John Bale.

 

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Devon: Who? Remember that guy who got fired when Creed talked Michael into firing Devon rather than himself? He was always there, never appreciated properly, and then he was gone, although he won't really be missed. That sounds like a pretty good description of Mark Grudzielanek's Royals tenure.

Karen: Mike Aviles. It was great while she was around, and her character really added a lot to the show. But any more of a significant role would have taken the shine off of the whole thing really quickly. I enjoyed it while it lasted, though.

Phyllis: Gil Meche. Unappreciated. A bit older.

Ryan: Emil Brown. Seemingly a regular guy, but turns out to be a bit of an arrogant jerk. Mysteriously promoted to a different office by an otherwise seemingly competent executive. And if this shoe fits...

Kelly: Zack Greinke

The Original British Version:** Kansas City Athletics. The Athletics have an important role in Kansas City baseball history. There are good reasons to like them. But there's definitely the distinct feeling from  at least some KC Athletics fans that they mainly reference the KC A's or even claim to prefer them in order to look cool and smart, not for any objective reasons.

** For the record, I loved the original, too. I don't want to debate which show is better. Both have their merits and flaws. Having said that, I simply want to address the complaint about the relative "overattractiveness" of the U.S. actors, which is usually lodged in the form of "the British actors look more like real people." I think we all  realize that there is a difference between "TV ugly" and "ugly ugly." Fair enough. And let me say that, although I am not of English descent, as an American and a world citizen I want to make sure everyone knows that I appreciate the British contributions to the world: constitutional government, individual rights, cornerstones of modern science and mathematics, Shakespeare, Byron, Jeff Beck, Benny Hill, The Young Ones... The list goes on and on. Now that that is out of the way, I want to ask all those making the "too good looking" complaint about the U.S. Office compared to the British version: Have you seen "average" British people? Good lord! If anything, the "hotness gap" between the British average and the actors on the show is greater than the U.S. show. I understand your need to show how deep and unsuperficial you are, complainers, but find a real cause... I suppose I should prepare to be drawn and quartered now.

Daryyl: John Buck.

Oscar: Mark Teahen. Hmmm, is that a good choice or not? Mark?

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Pam: David Dejesus. Not an All-Star, but definitely underrated and underappreciated. Although this may be turning into overrated in some cases...

Todd Packer: Tony Muser

Michael  Scott: It's a no-brainer: Trey Hillman. That means...

Stanley: Miguel Olivo

Toby: Jimmy Gobble

Jan Levenson: Ooh, that's a toughie. Let's see. Love-hate relationship with Michael, moody, appears good at her job until you look a little more closely. Somehow is appointed to leadership positions despite the company seemingly failing under her watch. Uses artificial enhancement to attract suitors. The craziness is funny when viewed obliquely or from a distance, but becomes horrifying when viewed in the raw. Which member of the 2008 Royals does that sound like?

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David Wallace: Dayton Moore. Wallace seems like a nice guy who knows what he's doing. But don't you have to wonder about someone who allows Michael Scott and Jan Levenson to have such prominent places in the company?

 

Alright... There's the cast. I don't care if you don't like it, I did this for fun. Well, I did it for attention, too. That's just how pathetic I am. But I think there is a lot of enjoyment to be had from constructing skits -- I don't think they're that far off, either. Can't believe I couldn't pick a Dwight.

[Scene: Mike Aviles has just been called up from Omaha, and walks into the KC clubhouse for the first time. He runs into Trey Hillman.]

Aviles: Hi, I'm Mike Aviles.

Trey: Hey, good to meet you, Mike! It's nice to have an extra body around here. I'm not sure you'll get to play much, but I'll do what I can to make you comfortable before you go back to Omaha next week. You know any of the guys here?

Aviles: Yeah, a few. I know Billy Butler, of course. Joel Peralta, Jimmy Gobble...

Hillman [interrupting]: Stay away from Jimmy Gobble. Jimmy Gobble is everything wrong with major league pitching today.

Aviles [confused]: Um, OK...

Hillman: Yeah, this is going to be a great week for you to watch some real big leaguers up close, Mike... say, I'm looking at you, huh... was one of your parents a migrant worker or something?

[awkward pause, scene]

 

[Scene: Random post-game press conference]

Hillman:... so to answer your question, Joe, that is why we're going to try Zack in the bullpen the next few games. Shake things up.

Reporter: Trey, can you explain why you pinch hit Jose Guillen for Alex Gordon against a right-handed pitcher? Doesn't Alex hit righties better than anyone on the team?

Hillman: Yeah, well, you guys have to understand, I look at statistics all the time. BA with RISP my friend, BA with RISP...

Hillman [talking to camera as an aside in his office]: BA with RISP? Batting average with runners in scoring position. I used to use plain ol' batting average, but that was just lame.

[scene]

 

[Scene: Trey Hillman is introducing Mike Aviles to other players. They run into John Buck and Alex Gordon.]

Hillman: I'm pretty sure you know who Alex Gordon is, Mike, but this here, this, is our main catcher [Miguel Olivo rolls his eyes in the background], beep beep, beeep?

Aviles: What? I thought this was John Buck?

Buck [patiently]: No, um... John Buck... Buck Rodgers... That litte robot, "Tweekie," the robot on Star Wars... R2-D2...

 

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[Scene]

[Scene: In the bullpen, Zack Greinke and Jimmy Gobble are sitting next to each other]

Zack: ...and Emil and I would hang out all night there, until they threw us out, which I would have texted him about, but he got a new cell phone, and he won't give me the number, but anyway we would sit in there, and it's awesome, because you can get burritos or tacos or nachos, and you can get green salsa or red salsa or pico de gallo and guacamole or choose pork or beef or chicken or even vegetarian

Gobble [later insert, speaking to camera]: I don't know what the hell Trey was thinking moving Zack to the 'pen, but if he's trying to punish me... genius.

[back to bullpen]

Zack: ... and so I beat him again in MLB 2k6, and he was totally like joking and saying how he was sick of being the Royals, but I didn't care, and then he got mad and started making fun of my idea of naming my first two kids "Brad" and "Jennifer" but that's totally amazing and I got mad and said Emil I'm not going to take you to Chipolte anymore.

[Billy Butler walks up]

Gobble [looking alarmed, but also relieved]: Billy, what are you doing here?

Billy: Trey said he would call me if he needed me, but didn't tell me how to use the --- HEY... this is awesome. You guy have your own TV, your own phone, and your bathroom is immaculate. Our stinks somethin' horrible. Well, that's not surprising. I think Trey spends every minute in there when we're at bat and Hosey isn't at-bat, on deck, or on the bases. Weird. Anyway, I think I'm going to stay here for a while. Maybe I'll do this every game I'm not playing! I could have been here every game last week!

Gobble: I think we hang out an appropriate amount of time.

[scene]

Please, add your ideas in the comments section! I might do more, later. And, please, don't take this too seriously.

[The idea originated in a game thread sometime earlier this season. I'm sure I took ideas from others, so thanks for anyone who gave me an idea I used or was inspired by or whatever.]

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Excellent work

I can’t wait to try to rock the Michael Scott goatee.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Sep 25, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I fully endorse this fanpost

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 25, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was great

I now hold you in the same esteem as I hold Joe Posnanski*

*It was long, well thought out and you used the cool lengthy italicized “digressions” masterfully.

(and that is a sincere compliment, by the way)

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pozterisks are the new black

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm usually a season or two behind.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Sep 25, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pozterisks are the new "that's what she said"

I started doing both as a joke… now I can’t help myself

D’oh

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks so much

That’s an incredible compliment. I’m not close of course. Indeed, I’m not even one of the top 3-5 posters on this site (RR is definitely #1). But I appreciate it.

RoyalsRetro is also clearly better than me. I think my life will be complete if this post breaks his record for recs (the Ryan Lefebcre post got _15_), although I doubt that’s going to happen.

Still, you feel what you feel. I’m not really a writer, but I appreciate the praise. Thanks so much. That makes my day. Until I have to go to the hardware store.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Psh, whatever

You have clearly surpassed me young Padawan. You are the Ryan Shealy to my Ross Gload. Someday, a Kila will surpass us all.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm probably the Mark Quinn of Royals Review

Relatively speaking, that makes you Sweeney. RR is Brett. I’ll stop with the analogy there, since I felt guilty about leaving people out of the Godfather thing. Besides, I ended up being Fredo.

So, Ross-Ryan-Kila is probably good, but if I’m Shealy, that doesn’t bode well for his roster chances next year.

Such a love-fest.

At the very least, you’re a better typist, since i have to go back and edit for days after I post. I get distracted in the middle of thoughts, too, so sentences don’t make sense — not because I don’t know English, just because of attention problems.

If you seriously think this way, you need to go back and read some of your “50 Greatest” posts. The whole David Howard thing, which I read last night, almost had me on the floor.

Ironically the LeFebvre thing got the most recs, and you just tossed that off. That’s probably typical. RR has done some amazing stuff, some serious, some funny, mostly both. But I think one of the best was Watch Your Bako. Generated some great comments, too. We should have more “picture caption” contests.

Well, I should end this nauseating love-fest. We’re all the Stars! It’s enough to know that we have a shared appreciation for Mr. Burns vs. Don Mattingly, Franklin Bluth, a love/hate thing with the Royals’ Jose Guillen era (He’s just like Manny! Except less funny and with 250 less opints of OPS!) and most of all, the greatest picture caption contest possibilty for the 2008 Royals.

[/nausea]

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, and you watched the Young Ones???

I thought I was the only person in the US who’d ever seen it!! CLASSIC!!

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Sep 25, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I loved the episode where Vivian was pregnant

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 25, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked

a Vampire!
In a Parcel!
In the Kitchen!

but hell, I can barely remember them it was so long ago. I just remember thinking WTF and then laughing my butt off….and then looking forward to the next Sunday night on MTV (IIRC)

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Sep 25, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

An apple? What are you trying to do? Keep the doctor away?

If he’s anything else you, YES!

Am I the only one who owns a copy of The Young Ones book, “Bachelor Boys?”

I’ve been in school with a lot of people who have similar political views as Rick’s. And they are every bit as nuanced.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anything LIKE you

dammit, I need a secretary

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toby over Jim

Who the crap says Toby over Jim?

by Bornin85 on Sep 26, 2008 9:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But he's so sweet! And sensitive! And Michael is so mean to him!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a reasonable adult in a group of children

or at least he was

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

and now we lose that juxaposition. Boo, anti-juxtaposition!

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Sep 26, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have found Jim hard to take

1) he’s too successful at his job (one quasi-promotion, one implied offer of VP)
2) Karen & Pam throwing themselves at him, along with purse girl

by royalsreview on Sep 26, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never fear

Pam will break up with him for some douchebag Psychologist in Maine.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Sep 26, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So will you like him better after a season-long comeuppance?

Or will you simply hate him more and see it as just desserts for, um, being good at his job.

And we all remember those first two seasons where Pam just kept throwing herself at him. I just can’t see why he didn’t jump at the opportunity after that!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked the stuff they did last season...

when his management moments didn’t go so well, and the realization that he is pretty similar to michael

but then his end of season success seemed to wash that out

by royalsreview on Sep 26, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's coming around

like anyone else would. Maybe I’m playing up the “fallibility” angle too much, but the whole thing with Pam is going to be pretty brutal. Personally, I’m not saying he’ll be “right” to be frustrated (and who knows how it will be portrayed), but I could understand it. The whole Roy thing will be tough.

Jim did have problems with management, but I think those moments were as much for him/audience to see that Michael’s problems aren’t all because he’s so stupid, insecure, etc., and that Michael isn’t totally pathological — it makes Michael more human.

I guess one thing I don’t agree with you on is disliking Jim for being vindictive toward Ryan (that’s how I understood your comments last season). I don’t mean I can disagree with your feeling, but I guess, even though it was dumb for Jim to do it, I can completely understand why he woud want to, given Ryan’s attitude toward him and Ryan trying to run him out of the company. Since’s I’m someone who has a hard time holding his tongue, maybe I’m cutting Jim too much slack.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comedically speaking

Toby is great. Jim/Pam can’t always be the ones saying, “this is pretty f-ed up,” and Toby says it in such a nice way, that Michael’s total overreaction makes it hilarious.

Toby is also funny a la Gil from The Simpsons. I’m pretty sure I don’t need to explain that. That’s why saving his appearance for the last shot of the show, and the content, was absolutely perfect. That’s exactly what would happen to Toby.

Toby’s “ganging up” on Jim with Ryan last season worked so well because it is so atypical.

Love the character’s function on the show. Perfect illustration of “the other way to go,” basically a male version of Pam when she was with Roy.

And don’t call me Pammie!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How gratuitous?

I guess it was harsh, but something had to go wrong with the Costa Rica thing.

My guess before the premiere was that he’d just be back in the office, and Holly would have disappeared for some reason. That would also be in-line with Toby’s destiny of misery.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant "How gratuitous?"

in, what else would you have done?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably not the right word...

it just felt a little off

i wonder if we’ll keep getting little toby updates, or even if he returns at some point

by royalsreview on Sep 26, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumor has it he will

Holly might be this season’s Karen

As much as I like Andy (nothing will ever top his season 3 contributions), his tenure on the show needs to be reaching its conclusion. After the wedding doesn’t come off, Ed Hearn needs to be on a different show. He just doesn’t serve a purpose.

Of course, that’s what I thought after season 3, and this has gone well.

I wonder if Pam is doing to run into Karen in NYC?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freudian slip

“Ed Hearn needs to be on a different show.”

Perhaps traded back to the Daily Show for David Cone?

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL -- exactly

Cone would be great on the Daily Show.

‘cept I expect, like most ex-atheletes, he wouldn’t quite fit in. I wonder why?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gratuitous

It was gratuitous if it was just a parting, sadistic shot at Toby (as in, “look, the sad sack went to Costa Rica and broke his neck, haha!”). But if it was a way to make things not go so good in Costa Rica and pave the way for him to get back to Scranton (or perhaps to the corporate office in New York), then it was good. I’d love for Toby to be Michael’s new boss. Although he’s best as the soft, reasonable voice telling Michael that what he’s doing is inappropriate/offensive/illegal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's an awesome idea, actually

Because Toby wasn’t under Michael to begin with! He had a million chances to report things to get Michael fired, and never did. He could have torpedoed the thing with Holly in the last ep of last season, and he didn’t.

So bring him back has MIchael’s boss. Show him getting “determined” to stick it to Michael. Then watch him constantly pull back, etc. I can’t quite explain how I think it should work, but there’s real comedic possibility there.

Another one (not exclusive), would be for Toby to some how end up with Crazy Jan at the end of the season.

I really do think he’s going to come back. Toby is likable. But luckily his a fictional character, because he’s really only entertaining when he’s suffering.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting idea
Another one (not exclusive), would be for Toby to some how end up with Crazy Jan at the end of the season.

Maybe Toby is the father of Jan’s baby! I’d like that.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I thought she went for artificial insemination from a sperm bank.

I think Toby’s Catholic. I’m not trying to stir up a religious discussion or mock anyone here… but I really don’t know. Would he be allowed to donate to a sperm bank?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought she went for artificial insemination from a sperm bank.

That’s what she said when Michael was freaking out and she was trying to spare his feelings and keep him on board (so to speak). She could easily have been making it up. The writers could easily do a dramatic reveal that she was cheating on Michael with somebody. I’m not making a prediction on what they’ll do, but having her cheat on Michael with someone and getting knocked up is definitely plausible.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still think

Its her former assistant Hunter that got her pregnant. The guy with the CD. The lyrics of his song are quite telling:

You took me by the hand
Made me a man
That one night (one night)
You made everything all right
That one night (one night)
You made everything all right
So raw, so right, all night, all right, oh yeah

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would work too

It would just crush Michael much more for it to be Toby she cheated with. I like it when Michael gets crushed. He almost always deserves it.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some, maybe much of the time he deserves it

although almost never in the situations with Jan

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more thing

It would be perfect, because it would get both ends — M ichael would be miserable, but then, even when Toby finally (and accidently) gets his “revenge” on Michael… he gets stuck with Batshit Insane Jan!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 28, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everybody wins

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 28, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In answer to your question

No, it would be immoral to donate to a sperm bank. Masturbation in any form (sex in any form that is not “open to life”—i.e. that cannot possibly lead to children) is condemned by the Church.

by BrRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

I meant no offense ot Catholics or anything, I just didn’t know the Church’s teaching on that specifically.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 28, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toby = Gil

That is soooo true.

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

 “Aw, thank God! Now, let’s talk rust-proofing. These Colecos’ll rust up on ya’ like that, er … shut up, Gil. Close the deal … close the deal!”

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really glad Gil Meche has pitched well for the Royals

If not, the “Meche = ’ol Gil” comments and jokes would be nonstop.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Epic

Not coincedentally, I also think Gil Meche has nice jugs.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man do I love The Office, but...

…this post is too long for me to read at —errr—where I’m at. FYI: Thanks for explaining the whole “Pozterisks” thing. – TL

by timlacy on Sep 26, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...nominations

dwight=brian bannister, overthinks things and is fooled…often, easy to play pranks on
bob vance, vance refrigeration=david glass…relies on company name for reputation despite being really annoying, yet persistent
meredith=callaspo. drinking problems.

Never giving up on your team is what makes you a good fan.

by kcisbetterthanstlateverything on Sep 26, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meredith = Callaspo is already in there

Dwight as Banni might be good. I was looking for a jerk, so maybe I’ll work around that.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think of Grudz as more of Angela

Kinda plays with a bug up his butt.

John Bale = Andrew Bernard….classic. I bet Bale is even in an a capella group.

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by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Grudz as Angela isn’t bad. I just wanted to write that particular thing about Grudz.

Um, has anyone else noticed that when Angela Kinsey makes an appearance outside of the show, that she is a lot prettier? I’m not saying she’s a super-hottie or anything, but, I dunno. I’m not a great judge of acting ability (I mean, I can tell that Natalie Portman should have been sued for her efforts in the Star Wars prequels, but anyone over 16 could see that), but I think it’s the smiling. Isn’t that a sign that she’s a really good actress?

When I think about it, I think “Angela” might be the most underrated characters, comedy-wise, on the show.

But this isn’t really The Office thread. You guys don’t have to, but if I was hoping that people would have “scene” ideas, or even post them in this section. I was hoping to use Alex’s picture to look at the camera more. I toyed with having Dayton as Trey, just so we could sub in “pitching is the currency of basball” or “we’ll do whatever it takes to improve the team” as his “that’s what she said,” but Trey is definitely the Michael, so that didn’t work out.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

I think she is quite attractive outside of the show.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 26, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great article

hopefully not overstepping my bounds when suggesting

Dwight = TPJ

because we hate them and want to gouge their eyes out, but if we actually got the chance we probably wouldn’t.

by benfunke on Sep 26, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha... not bad, not bad

Somehow, the sunglasses/relief pitching has to come into play here

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you mean what will become of the career?

Well, if the overarching theme of this stays consistent with the British version, the best they can do is stay where they are and simply be happier with it. In the commentaries, they suggest that Dawn will always be a receptionist…. So we’ll see. Just like Jim will still be at Dunder-Mifflin in 10 years, perhaps in Michael’s office…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 26, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well done, DF

trying to think of awkward royals scenes that would fit in with The Office, but thus far drawing a blank

This space intentionally left blank.

by marbotty on Sep 28, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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