Game 161 Open Thread - Royals (74-86) at Twins (87-73)
Kansas City Royals at Minnesota Twins, Sep 27, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
On August 31st the Royals were 57-79. Another 100-loss season was improbable but definitely possible. Another 90-loss season seemed certain. Since then, of course, the Royals have gone 17-7, the team's best monthly stretch, at the moment, since probably August of 1989 when they went 21-8. (Either May 1993, when the Royals went 16-7, August of 1991 (18-11) or April of 2003 (16-7) are runners up.)
Considering the context, last night was the best start of HIram's career, and the kind of shutdown performance that I'd previously thought only Greinke was capable of delivering, amongst members of this staff. Slight to today's starter, Gil Meche? No, not really. That's just not what Gil is. You're never going to tune in to a Meche start and after three innings start wondering if he might throw a no-hitter tonight, or think he might strike out 12 guys. (Although actually Gil has struck out 10 twice this season.) What Meche has been is healthy, steady and consistent. After a rough April, his monthly ERAs have been: 3.65, 3.13, 3.05, .3.49, 3.96. Looking at his game log, he's really only had two bad starts since May.
Facing an arch-Twins pitcher type in Glen Perkins (4.50 ERA), the Royals have a perfect opportunity to continue their brilliant September and make the Twins nervous.* All they have to do is keep winning.
*Perkins was a first round pick in 2004. Seems like a non-impact player to me.
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I actually think Meche is a frequently dominant pitcher and more than a few times this season his stuff looked so good that I thought he had a no-hitter in him or a 12 K performance.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
He’s most successful when he works quickly
Looking for a new team.
by DC Royal on Sep 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From What I've
Seen, Good Hiram and Good Gil are very similar pitchers, we’ve just seen Good Gil show up more often than Good Hiram. They’re both best when they trust their stuff enough to throw strikes, but neither can afford to just blow the fastball down Main Street like Zack can at times.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meche's stuff is more trustworthy
They both have good stuff, but Meche can control it the vast majority of the time, and he has all of his pitches working most of the time. Davies often has at last moderate control problems and often can’t rely on one of his pitches. Last night, his curveball was on; it was spectacular. But many nights, it is completely unreliable.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Hoping That
Will come with time; living in Mariner county, I saw a lot of young Gil. Just subjectively, and most of the stats seem to bear this out, Gil seems to be a much better pitcher now than he was at Hiram’s age.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The three Gil's
Meche has had an interesting major league career which can be divided into three segments
Stage 1 – Young phenom
99-00, age 20-21
Very young, very talented, spectacular stuff, looks like he’s going to develop into a dominant ace. And then he tears his labrum and has shoulder surgery and loses the 2001 and 2002 major league seasons
Stage 2 – Rebuilding himself as a pitcher
03-06, 24-27
Still has good stuff, but with control problems. And there are some injury issues which are mostly minor. Over this period he’s a roughly average MLB starting pitcher
Stage 3 – The good #2 SP
07-08, 28-29
Still has good stuff, but with some mechanical changes learns how to control it. He’s more consistent, with good strikeout numbers and improved walks, with a good ERA and FIP.
Davies path has been somewhat different. He was the young phenom with great stuff who never had even ok results…until this year. I still don’t know what to expect from him next year. I’m thinking a good #5 SP or long reliever.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly enough
I’ve not been a big Davies fan, but I have been getting into Stat Corner’s stuff. Their stat, tRA+ is a park and league-adjusted fielding independant stat. They show Davies as league average this year 100 tRA+). Wow. NOt sure it’s sustainable, but it’s a very good sign, I think. Not bad for a rent-a-reliever. Props to DMGM on that one.
Also sort of encouraging: Hochevar at 97. Not great, but not far off from being a #3.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And his current FIP is 4.22, which is a little better than league average
But this is mitigated by his batted ball stats. There’s a high LD, low GB and fairly high FB%. That’s not good. And he’s been lucky with his percentage of flyballs which have become HR’s. His BABIP also shows considerable luck. So, overall, I think he’s pitched more like a #4 this season than a #2.
But he’s been much better in his last 3-4 starts (by every stat and metric). Is that about something real? Has his pitch usage really changed and does this signal something different and better from him? Maybe. I’m very cautiously a little optimistic. But I still see him as a #5/LR/SU.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he seems to be inefficient in early innings, then cruises through
innings 3-7, then his pitch count is high because of 20+ pitch innings in 1 &2. Let’s hope he gets a good start tonight. It is great having two (and maybe 3) reliable starting pitchers.
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by buddyball on Sep 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Second. Third. Fourth. Maybe?
Nice to see Gil get a little credit. NYRoyal — I know you may not like this, but I like the idea of Meche being “ol’ Gil.” No, not because he sucks. On the contrary… Anyway, that doesn’t really work. Does The Simpsons’ Gil ever have the good fortune to fall ass-backwards into money?
No, I’m thinking of poor ol’ Gil Meche and the Royals’ 2008 defense. Now, I know that people don’t agree about defensive metrics. Indeed, given sample sizes and different variables, defensive metrics like the +/- version(s) may need mutiple seasons to have predictive power, and even then won’t be nearly as good as hitting stats.
Having said, that, I think they do tell us something about current performance, if not as much about ability. In the context of the Royals, it might help explain why the Royals pitching seems to have improved, but the runs allowed still… aren’t great. So from today’s THT Team stats page for 2008 (I’m going to use comparisons to league average because this page, frustratingly enough, does not have a sort function):
League average runs allowed: 748
Royals runs allows: 773
Below average. What happened to all that pitching progress?
League average ERA: 4.35
Royals ERA: 4.50
Ugh, does that mean the Royals’ pitching still has a ways to go, maybe. But check out
this years FIP.
League average FIP: 4.35
KC Royals: 4.28
Above average.
Where are all those runs allowed coming from? THT also has +/- fielding stats. I’m not sure where they’re taken from. They don’t have them for individual players, but we’re talking about the team here. I think it’s helpful to go through several.
League Average RZR: .826
Royals RZR: .830
Hmmm… very slightly above average… But let’s keep going
League average OOZ: 404
Royals OOZ: 331 (lowest [worst] in the AL)
League average +/ – fld: -10
Royals +/ – fld: -31(yikes!)
What I’m saying is, even if one doesn’t think the defensive stats quite get at the overall abilities of the Royals individual players, they do a good job of explaining why the Royals endedup on the wrong end of the Runs Allowed balance sheet.
But in this context, it also shows that we can feel good about the Royals pitching staff this year — their above average FIP vs. their ERA and runs allowed is easily explained by one of the worst defenses in the league.
So, what does this have to do with Gil Meche?

C’mon, ol Gil just needs one more easy out. Alex let that guy on first, but there’s two down. Gil’s struck out 9 in 6 innnings, it’s in the books. Just get an easy fly off of Delmon here… No problemo.. haha…
[Pitch, lazy low fly]
Haha! that’s not problem. Just like I drew it up on the Coleco with Banny last night. Easy for Hosey to… no, no, how could that drop. Get the ball, get the ball… oh no, now David and Hoesy are tripping over each other in the corner… they’re coming around to score… that two more earned runs for Gil…

Where’s Alberto? Gil needs a drink. What do you mean he polished off my personal flask already? oh, man, you mean I have to dance for it? What would that? I’m dancin’ cha cha cha cha
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Well done
As long as Meche is pitching well, he can be ol’ Gil. If he starts the season with 3 bad starts next year, some people will use it without a hint of irony.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I know doublestix and just about everyone else here “sees” baseball stuff much better than I do, but I was kinda hoping my juxtaposition of the Royals, Runs Allowed, FIP, and defensive stats might show that the stats are showing something real that’s going on out there. So they’re helpful for me, at least.
but anyway, if Meche does start to suck a few times next season, will that really make him Gil? Not that Gil’s a star, but the main theme with him is bad luck. If Meche gets rocked after a few starts, it would be better to call him “Homer” or “Moe” or “Elarton.” ol’ Gil wouldn’t really fit.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know doublestix and just about everyone else here "sees" baseball stuff much better than I do, but I was kinda hoping my juxtaposition of the Royals, Runs Allowed, FIP, and defensive stats might show that the stats are showing something real that’s going on out there. So they’re helpful for me, at least.
I think you have to take even the best fielding metrics with several grains of salt, but there is definitely something going on there. In short, the Royals defense this season has been poor. Not awful, but not average either.
but anyway, if Meche does start to suck a few times next season, will that really make him Gil?
No, but that won’t keep some fans from giving up on him (again). Maybe I’m giving Royals fans too little credit. Maybe they’d wait for 5 bad starts.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I see Gil as a character who represents bad luck more than incompetence
Cf. Meche’s win-loss record versus his performance. Whatever.
I don’t think people are going to give up on him after two years. I mean, the same people who have given up on Gordon will, but of course they’ll all come around when he hits 25 jacks next year. (Well, maybe. I still get the feeling that, since he didn’t come out of the gates hot, that until Alex hits 35 jacks a year with an over .900 OPS that people will be disappointed. And, at the at point, if the Royals still haven’t gone to the playoffs a few years, he will be promoted to the “Sweeney Level.” Lucky him. I don’t think this is unique to Royals fans, however).
I can’t wait to see how good Zack is when he gets some man muscles.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ol' Gil is the quintessential pathetic loser
A mixture of bad luck and incompetence wrapped up in a pathetic ball of loserific desperation.
I don’t think people are going to give up on him after two year
You give fans too much credit. If he starts out with a handful of bad starts next year, many (but probably not most) will say, “well, he’s in his 30’s and he’s hit the wall. You know pitchers lose velocity with age. He’s probably lost 1 or 2 mph and can’t be effective anymore. And maybe the last two years really were flukes. And maybe he’s hurt too. All of those innings and his past shoulder surgery have caught up with him. Most expected him to suck as a Royal and he’s finally doing it. What a loser.”
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardly any fans will thiink that
because most fans don’t think 31 is old at all for a player. No fan believes a player even begins to decline until late-30s unless they’re statistically savvy… yet no statistically savvy fan would ignore Gil’s actual (and consistent) performance this year and decide he was done if he got off to a bad start next year.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even in a game thread?
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by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, in a game thread
if Aviles led off the first game of 2009 with a GB-4, people would start demanding he be benched.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All bets are off during a gamethread
when it comes to providing a rational perspective. Game threads are a forum for people to bitch and react to the action they’re seeing with emotion instead of rationality
Looking for a new team.
by DC Royal on Sep 27, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Game One?
TPJ was a hero. A HERO, I tell you. All-Star in the making.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't He Triple
Because he couldn’t bunt and no one knew you didn’t have to throw strikes to him yet?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
Just defensive stats and metrics bro. That’s it. I can roll with the other stats. :-)
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I figured. Issallgooooooood
But don’t you find it a bit persuasive that the Royals’ pitchers have above average fielding independant stats, but below average runs allowed and ERA, and the defensive metrics/stats are below average? Does that make sense as an argument? The bad defense would explain the runs allowed vs. good pitching anomaly. At least it does for me.
Again, this is one of the caveats that, until pretty recently, I’m one of those idiots who (when I’m at the park) can’t tell if a ball is going out or not until I see the fielder settle under it or go back to the wall.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense
Could be just some plain ole bad luck too. Hochevar’s strand rate was 62, when the league average is closer to 76 or something like that. That’s almost assuredly some bad luck.
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See above
Hoch’s been an almost league average pitcher independant of fielding, and adjusted for park and league.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad the W-Sox are...
…losing and taking the drama out of the Royals-Twins series. I was hoping our team would knock the Twins out, let the Sox in, and watch the Sox lose 0-3 in the opening round of the playoffs. So much for my AL Central loyalties; they extend only as far as the Royals.
I don’t know about all the defensive stats above, but I did observe Mellinger in the KC Star praising Aviles defensive “metrics.” Apparently Aviles is actually better at SS than 2nd. Anyway, I think the problem with the Royals up-the-middle defensive stats have more to do with Grudz’s poor range, over-rating of TPJ’s “brilliance,” and the poor quality of our defensive back ups. Also, the corners weren’t good for us early (i.e. Gordon started off poorly with the leather). In sum, I think our defensive rhythm right now is what we can expect next year. – TL
by timlacy on Sep 27, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about Callaspo
But I think Aviles and Grudz were actually pretty good. Most metrics are showing the worst defenders as Guillen (worst, or tied with Gordon for worst), Gordon, Gload (this is what guys I respect like NYRoyal and doublestix really disagree with — hey, either way, his bat makes up for it!), DDJ in CF (although he’s been shifted around so much the samples sizes are small — he’s been good before this), and Teahen. Weird. UP the middle we’re OK, on the corners not so much.
In some cases, I think it may just be a blip — Gordon was pretty good last year (at least average), but who knows. DDJ was good every year until now, and, as said above, the sample size is small. He might also be slowing down a bit in his late-20s though, and the injuries may have taken their toll. Teahen was decent in the outfield last year, maybe the shifting around at the beginning of the year threw him off.
Guillen, on the other hand, is just older, and the stats are consistent with last year. Gload, well, I don’t want to get into that argument. Aviles looks good on all, but it is a small sample. I found it interesting, though, that before the call-up, the scouts were all saying he’s a hack. Now, the scouts don’t like the stats, but they’re saying “no, he’s only average or above average.”
Who knows? I don’t. I have to trust what the stats and other people who see the field better than I (approx 87% of all people who watch baseball) tell me.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineup
ss – aviles
2b – callaspo
rf – guillen
1b – shealy
lf – teahen
dh – butler
3b – gordon
c – buck
cf – maier
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Against a lefty?
Anyone else feeling guillen-shealy-teahen-butler back-to-back-to-out-to-back?
Aviles and Guillen will combine for at least 2 XBHs.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teahen Seems To
Be pulling the ball with authority the last few games, so maybe. I still don’t get the Guillen/Teahen position swap. Hoagie is almost a static display out there.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guillen/Teahen position swap
I most most stadiums, it makes no sense to have Teahen in LF and Guillen in RF, but in the Metrodome it makes sense. RF in the Metrodome is very small (short distance to the baggy), and LF is comparatively big. So it kind of makes sense to have the guy with better range in LF.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Won't Teahen
Get confused? He might run to the wrong dugout or something.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had teahen as my out in there
although he’s been stroking the ball in september
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck needs to homer
So we have 8 guys in double figures:
20 Guillen
16 Gordon
15 Teahen
12 DeJesus
12 Olivo
11 Butler
10 Aviles
9 Buck
If Shealy can hit 3, even better!
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell, he's got 2 games.. he'll hit 6.
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by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only Kila were playing
He could get 9 in his sleep.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huber?
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just These 8
Guys have more HR’s than the team had last year.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the rest of the team other than those 8 guys
only has 15, that’s still not exciting
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(and 7 of those 15 are Shealy)
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This looks A LOT like...
…what I suspect our line-up will be next year—-except DDJ for Maier and flip-flop DDJ and Callaspo. …Just a hunch. – TL
by timlacy on Sep 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Current 2008 Royals Batting Runs Above Average (BRAA)
From Stat Corner:
Aviles, Mike 9.9
Bannister, Brian -0.7
Buck, John -12.7
Butler, Billy -3.8
Callaspo, Alberto 3.8
Davies, Kyle -0.9
DeJesus, David 10.4
Gathright, Joey -18.0
German, Esteban -9.6
Gload, Ross -12.5
Gordon, Alex 7.3
Greinke, Zack -0.5
Grudzielanek, Mark 1.8
Guillen, Jose -1.9
Hochevar, Luke -1.2
Maier, Mitch -3.9
Meche, Gil -0.4
Olivo, Miguel -5.7
Pena, Tony -30.6
Shealy, Ryan 5.5
Smith, Jason -2.3
Teahen, Mark -10.4
Tomko, Brett -0.1
Tupman, Matt 0.5
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TUPMAN NOW!!!11!!11one
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
1-1 with a single can’t be worth half a run. I declare this stat to be useless.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don't get that, either
But he didn’t make any outs!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then again
VORP has Tupman at 0.8
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shealy's already fourth
weep, oh Royals nation, weep.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what, you do think he can keep this up?
That’s what they said about Shane Spencer in 1998! That’s what they said about Ryan Shealy in 2006!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What really gets me about all this, whether with bRAA or VORP
is this. Look, we don’t know how Aviles would have hit all season. But let’s just say he was replacement level all year, or league average, instead of considerably above, as he has been. Just that over TPJ is about 3 wins… .500 here we come, baby!
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think Shealy would have been 3 wins better than Gload, too
Regardless of any other concerns. Gload’s just been THAT BAD.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, G-Load's defense has been poor
but don’t you think his bat has made up for it?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TPJ Is Pretty
Impressive in his own way.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dejesus won't play tomorrow either, btw
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by doublestix on Sep 27, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, what the hell
Washington-Philly? I get stuck with WASHINGTON-PHILLY?
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least your game has playoff implications
I get Yankees-Red Sox. Meaningless. Yay!
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but you'll get Something Else
while it rains. :p
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals-Twins!!!11
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were already in Texas
I bet I’d get Royals-Twins. :x
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope, but it is raining in NYC right now and they are playing all of the Mets game regardless
Is it raining in Boston?
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's already listed as a rain delay
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll probably get Phils-Nats
:(
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN Had A
Discussion of the insane risk the Mets are taking by running Santana out on short rest in a game that might have rain delays.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far it has worked out
He has dominated with a shutout through 8
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Marlins.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN with their typical expert predictions
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teabag's up for the Roberto Clemente award
go stuff the ballot box :p
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies are trying to clinch the division
with a pitcher who graduated high school before I was IN high school.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh great
The Sox-Yanks rain delay means I get the Cubs-Brewers.
This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.
by NYRoyal on Sep 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
same. argh.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late to the thread but.....
GLEN Perkins sucks balls. Lucky pitcher, given up like 12 homers in his last 35 IP. Let’s blow him up.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great lead off AB by avilanche no matter what
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man....the Dome is pretty empty for such a big game....
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking the same thing
I knew some people at the game Thursday and they said it was packed.
by Pauli on Sep 27, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamie Moyer looks more and more like Eddie Harris every day
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ben sheets sucks now..
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't have started that game
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2-3
but 19 pitches to get there. A noble failure.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice of Jose to follow up 2 great ab's with....that
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, at least it was a 1-5-3!
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow talk about getting squeezed in that casilla AB, jesus christ
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Harvick In The
Lead followed by Martin at The Speedway.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
woot woot. nice work, slow, and painful but nice work Gil.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
21 pitches for Gilgameche
Not good.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's ok, perkins threw almost as many and showed no good offspeed pitches
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the Twins have taken a ton of pitches so far last night + tonight.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's that shealy batspeed...
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Decent AB
Didn’t swing at a ball, anyway
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10 pitches to mike, 21 for the next 5 outs
perkins is just beating us with his fastball, which is pretty sad. we’re gonna have to get on top of it
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone but Hoagie and Butler
has at least seen six pitches.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then Butler pulls a Hoagie
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man that was a good pitch to Kubel
Although you know he was looking for it…
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kubel = stairs lite?
Don't Stop Believing!
by KC Chris on Sep 27, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
disclaimer
i wasn’t referring to stats in any way… just short round lefty…
Don't Stop Believing!
by KC Chris on Sep 27, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a guy who doesn't seem taht good, but really is, and would definitely help the royals
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-2 fastball to young in the zone....why
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to get him out
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then puts it on a tee for brendan harris...
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Burrell just pulled a DeJesus
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meche's fastball is getting smoked
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that could certainly have been worse.
Luckily, it’s now the third inning, meaning Meche will turn into Koufax for four innings.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he's even shown his changeup yet, so I like the odds of that happening
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can't we hit this clown's 90 mph "fastball"?
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good question, but he's been getting by on it all year
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he's gotten tips from Soria
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or buehrle
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm quite depressed the end of the season is near.
Hopefully this sites crack team of bloggers have some amazing reads coming up?
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1, end of season makes me wanna cry
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow that strike to maier was eye level, unreal
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gameday showed it
at the letters, which still hasn’t been a strike all game.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty much ruined the AB for Maier
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man Mike has gotten some FAT pitches to hit and all he can do is pop them up
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers better get their shit together
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, nice play Shealy, that will cost us a run
and yeah, starting sheets was a horrible idea
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice play Callapso
pathetic
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey....Fox Announcer......it's S-H-E-A-L-Y....
not S-e-a-l-y

and…..it’s not C-o-l-la-s-p-o
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Posture Pedic?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could get away from us real quick now
Giving them 2 extra outs ughhh
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best commercial ever
The Burger King getting rolled by a taxi. I wish it had been going 10mph faster.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Burger King=
Worst mascot/logo ever.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him too
but I definitely was creeped out when people were waking up in bed with him
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burger King VS. Ronald Mcdonald and his crew.. Grimace, Hamburglar and such.
Who wins?
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any team with Ken Harey on it is going to dominate
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The McD's crew in a landslide......
the Hamburglar knows every trick in the book.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamburglar > all
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if I threw Jack in the Box, Colonel Sanders and the Taco Bell Dog in with The King?
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still no contest
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
give me the Pizza, Pizza, guy from Little Ceasar's and then we'll talk
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You all have a lot of faith
in a clown, purple, a theif, a pirate and a mayor with a burger for his head…
After typing that.. I see your point. How can you beat that?
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Like BK
Food much better, but their crew easily bests the Burger King. He’s creepy no matter where he is.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 on the food
onion rings with special dippnig sauce mmmm
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pissed Me Off
The idiot who had the BK franchise in Alaska screwed up his tax situation, declared bankruptcy and sold the Anchorage stores but not the Kenai and Soldotna stores; no more BK o the peninsula. We did get a Carl’s Jr. in the old BK building in Kenai, so it’s not so bad.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl's Jr.
Didn’t that used to be Hardee’s?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardee's still exists
they merged. It’s Carl’s Jr out west, Hardee’s everywhere else
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just remember with fondness
the time I ate two Mushroom N’ Swiss burgers at the “Halfway Hardees” South of wichita on I-35 (It’s a McDonald’s now) on our way from a Rush concert to Padre Island in May, 1992. I didn’t even vomit!
Those were heady days.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardee's is much better now.
Mmmmm, I want a Thickburger.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't been to one in years
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable
I mean, you live in some weird place where the only place to eat is Tim Horton’s.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's horrible, other than the coffee, hot chocolate, and some of the dougnuts
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are like no Hardee's left in KC.
A couple, but in random places. It’s unfortunate.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The prime rib Thick Burger.
Amazing. Their fries are great too.
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I always go to one when I'm in the vicinity
they closed a bunch when they did their restructuring a few years back
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's one on Noland Road....
we stop there quite a bit on the way back home from afternoon games. it’s a tradition
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by KC I meant johnson county ;)
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although there used to be one down on troost that they closed
saddening
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daryl Ward is one of the best players in the world? Really Mark Grace? Really?
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES!

Way to help ol’ Gil out
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is amazing
All Perkins is doing is throwing a 90mph fastball right over the plate, and we can’t hit it
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jOGUI HIT THAT ONE BOOYAH
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoagie Goes Baggie!!!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phils take the lead
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yay Mes!!!!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers are folding under the mighty pressure of...
Ted Lilly, Darly Ward, and Fukodome.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and the royals are falling too the almighty Glen Perkins.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Sheets
Is one of the biggest failures in history. He’s everything people accuse A-Rod of being.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Puts up big numbers when it doesn't matter
chokes when it does
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fukodome = $48 million Japanese Mark Teahen?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Texas putting a beat-down on Arkansas 31-3 in first half....
Great Work Bobby Petrino
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He probably got hired to be the TX O-coordinator 5 minutes before gametime
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was an embarassing last two outs
we look awful
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Billys gunna earn his baconator next inning.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man callaspo has looked awful on this turf
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is a single worth a Baconator?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Strike my ass!
That ball was in the RH batter’s box!
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's been getting that and the high ball all night
why do you think we’re chasing so many pitches up in the zone
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That crap cascades, too
If ball 2 isn’t called a strike, Gordon probably doesn’t swing at ball 3
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
goddamn gordon SMOKED that one
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How close was it?
Alex power seems to be all over the place. Check it.
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OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It almost got over youngs head
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL anybody but Butler scores standing up
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shhh... Trey's going to hear you and PR for him
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great AB by Bucky, though
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Doesn’t look so much “worse” than Olivo when he gets the start against LHP
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucks having Maier bat here though, this is not optimal
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
HBP works.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hillman's genius at work
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded for Avilanche....
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
working hard not to jinx it...
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn aviles lay off this high garbage, you're getting yourself out
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh man he smooooooooked that ball
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how close was the play at the plate?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was no play
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
threw to third....
not close at third
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oopss
sorry, I guess you meant the Drunken Master
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, i think he meant aviles
they both hit the ball hard
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus christ then callapso SMOKES one
Wow every single ball we hit that inningi was right on the screws, talk about getting lucky for the twins, wow
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With any sort of twins luck we're still batting that inning, 1 out about 3 runs in
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ted Lilly No hitter through 5.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would be perfect if not for error
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank Caliendo does NOT do a very good
Shatner.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great line in Texas/Arkansas game....
“Here are the first half statistics. If you’re an Arkansas fan, you may want to get up and get something to drink…..if you haven’t already.”
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's just silly
if you’re an Arkansas fan, you were probably drinking before kickoff.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
f you’re an Arkansas fan, you were probably drinking before kickoff.
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
38-3 now.....three minutes into the 3rd quarter
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Lived In
Little Rock during Holtz’s heyday, and this was a huge game with national implications almost every year. Arkansas always got screwed by the refs no matter where it was played. This is just sad; Nutt has FUBAR’d that program completely in the last 2 years.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meche is throwing maybe the best backdoor slider I've seen this season
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its too bad the season is coming to an end now.
The pitching has been as good this month as it has been all year
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
by kcscoliny on Sep 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry, if Kyle Davies gives us 190 innings of 3.95 ERA ball next year
and Greinke duplicates this season as does Meche, we’ll compete ;)
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So many strikeouts from these guys.
It’s an unfamiliar and awesome sensation!
by andrewmiller on Sep 27, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as of this morning
both Zack and Gil were outperforming their ERAs
Zack is one of the five unluckiest starters in baseball this year, when defense and park effects are taken into account
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which gives me tingles thinking about how good he could be next year
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what' weird is
the last few starts have made Davies’ FIPs almost exaclty league average… never thought he’d get close to that.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my hawkeyes and gators have lost now i move over to see if in can jinx the royals
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
by kcscoliny on Sep 27, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does getting no hit qualify as choking?
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BOOF on for the Twinkies
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will it be dominating boof or explosive boof?
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
He’s actually a betterpitcher than Perkins, and worse for the Royals, he’s right handed
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's capable of sucking though
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
extremely
I have to admit it didn’t seem like so long ago that he looked like a promising no. 3, or even no. 2 guy
what the hell happened?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...how freakin' good is Jamie Moyer?
Talk about a magical season for him.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that pitch as much of a meatball
as it looked like on Gameday?
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday tells me groundball
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
but it was right down the freakin’ pipe at 91.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a BoofBall
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much.
Rally time, no double play plz.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo rally time
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
by kcscoliny on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Start that singles train.........leaving the station
woo woot
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahhahaha I love twins'ing the twins
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JOGUI WITH THE WHEELZ
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, props to jose for hustling to score
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and props to treyball for not having butler "try" and bunt here
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he learned that lesson
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 straight hits, only one run so far
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my "complimenting Book resulting in a jinx" strategy totally worked
you’re welcome, all
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sonic Slam time
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
Gameday doesn’t tell me, but I suspect there was some sweet Delmon Defense in effect there…
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not on that one....
he flared it barely over the SS’s head
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not that good of a cut for a 2-0 pitch
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was trying to do too much and got lucky.
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by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trey's laughing at Gardy
“hahaha… what an idiot. Why would you burn a left-handed reliver just because Alex Gordon is at-bat”
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gordo needs to make it rain in the dome
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy SHIT SO CLOSE
that ball was like 15 feet foul off the upper deck
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and he strikes out.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on ball four
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday shows it as a strike, barely
With the idiot behind the plate, hard to take a chance.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it ended up aobut an inch above his ankles
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by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing about gameday, it shows breaking balls where they cross the plate
not where they’re caught, and most often they are called according to where they’re caught
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, which is of course wrong
Bad umpiring FTL
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm looked awfully low to me
oh well…doesn’t matter now
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow... we really have to get at least one more run from this
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well crap
I thought this game started at 5 pm!
have I missed anything?
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by buddyball on Sep 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gordon almost bombed a grand slam off a lefty
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we've had three 2-0 counts in a row to Butler, Gordon, and Buck
and only have a bloop single out of the three at bats
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 27, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for Bucky to hit #10, I say
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it the sonic slam inning?
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by buddyball on Sep 27, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Ryan even said “wow I hope he’s not listening.”
by Randa4life on Sep 27, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
how do they get the out at the plate
jesus christ
UGH
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 straight hits...with nobody out...and we only get 1 run
you gotta be kiddin’ meh
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guerrier's all over the place
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you fucking kidding me how does that inning happen
brain explode
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we just handed the twins a win right there
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bite your tongue!
Gilgameche is still on the mound!
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it doesn't matter, talkk about giving them all the momentum
sickening
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by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was ridiculous.
We would have scored at least one more run if nobody took the bat off their goddamn shoulder.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ladies and Gentlemen: How the Twins did it, 2008
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was the Maier liner a really hard one, did the Twins' get lucky, or was it a wuss shot
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he hit it hard, off the bat bert was like OH NOOOO
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While the Twins may have the advantage of being at home
The Royals have better dudes left in the pen.
Nunez, Ramirez, Soria >>> Nathan and whatever other detritous they have left
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the dome advantage is enormous in a close game
in my opinion
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bloop hits?
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
detritus - nice
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by buddyball on Sep 27, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even better if I could have remembered how to spel it
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lilly blowing up
Brewers have the bases loaded
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a run in
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what? no they don't..?? just prince is on.
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by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gameday lied to me?
Unpossible.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Gameday often loads the bases of Games I'm not watching, too
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly an evil plan on the part of Party Sekretary Budinski
to get people to look at another game under false pretenses.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mine does that as well.
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sick rotation when Lilly is your #4.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
always liked Lilly, personally
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's fun to watch pitch
He can throw 91-92, but most of the time it’s that 85-86mph cutter, and then he has that ridiculously big slow curveball.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, he's almost as generic looking as MITCH
That repertoire sounds similar to Soria’s
THE CUBS SHOULD MAKE LILLY THE CLOSER OMFG!!!111
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh WOW what a play by callapso
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by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If DDJ was playing the Royals would be up, I'll bet
line drive machine
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meche with another quietly great game
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if it weren't for sealy we'd be winning
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New edict from GMDM:
All players now required to sleep on King Koil
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simmons Beauty Rest
Made in KCK!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Sep 27, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6IP 1ER 7K's 2BB's
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by cfizzle on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to my gameday
The Chicago, Oakland, AND this game all have the bases loaded.
Nice jon, GIl. Load the bases without giving up anyhits or walks.
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
leave me out of this
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by jonfmorse on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice typing, no-type
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we love hacking wildly with 2-0 coutns
realistically speaking
by slayor on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pull Meche with the sub 4 ERA
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
by kcscoliny on Sep 27, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say send him out there if the game is still tied
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell is Minnesota going to the playoffs
with this bullpen, rotation, andm frankly, offense (outside of Mauer, Morneau, Kubel)
Maybe JoPo is right. Gardy=Casey Stengel
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by devil_fingers on Sep 27, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I ever meet anyone that works for Fox
I’m going to kick them right in the taint. Thanks guys for banning me from seeing any other big games today, and not even peeking in on them.
by suzzer on Sep 27, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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