Game 162 Open Thread - Royals (75-86) at Twins (87-74)
by Freneau on Sep 28, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
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I can't believe this is the last Game Thread of 2008. Between games 1 & 162 I moved from Iowa City to Cleveland to Washington, got married and honeymooned. And then there were the games... it all seems like a blur right now, from the season opening sweep in Detroit (which coincided with the debut of RR 2.0) to the Battles for Grass Creek and all the usual Royal losing streaks. Nobody does a losing streak like the Royals, as well all know, and that isn't even hyperbole. I will not lie to you: I did not see this September coming. Maybe a .500 September, but nothing like this. Many of us felt like the Royals were a 75-80 win team at the beginning of the year, but after four months they had decidedly not played at that level. Yet, here we are.
If real life was like a movie, the Royals would have to win today, wouldn't they? Trey would simply walk into the lockerroom five minutes before the first pitch, close his office door slowly and say, "we aren't losing now are we?" in his John Wayne voice and that would be it.
Unfortunately, there's also a Twins movie being made, one that we can only hope gets killed in production.
- The Royals starter today will be Brandon Duckworth (5.06 ERA). Ducky pitched well against the Twins earlier this month, contributing to an eventual 3-2 Royals victory, thanks to an ability to scatter seven hits over five innings. In 23.1 innings against the Twins in his career, Ducky has posted a 3.86 ERA, allowing 25 hits, eight walks, but just 11 runs (10 earned) thanks to 19 strikeouts and zero homers. Team splits are usually pretty useless, but these numbers may be instructive, since the Twins have had similar lineups/approaches/personell for the entirety of Ducky's career.
- Of course, there is very little chance that we don't also see three or four other pitchers. Had the Royals not already beaten the Twins twice this weekend, we may have seen a minor controversy about the team's justified decision to sit Greinke. It will 100% not happen, but as a fan I'd love to see Hillman throw Greinke out there for two innings to bridge to Soria, should the Royals be protecting a lead, though the rational side of me can acknowledge all the reasons why that's a bad idea. Still, close your eyes and imagine it for a moment. Talk about a dagger.
- The Royal offense will get a chance to display its maturity against Scott Baker who seemingly has nearly no-hit them like four times. An ability to punish someone like Baker -- who has a bit of Joe Randa in him appearance wise -- seperates a functional offense from those that aren't, which is precisely why Baker's dominated the Royals in the past.
- I don't know how the White Sox win today. Essentially, in both literal and figurative terms, they've ended up with a bad Royals bullpen, and have been made to try to win a must win game with those players. And it isn't like they're losing 3-2 but everyone's blaming the bullpen because of a run in the 9th inning (hello Mets). They've scored 14 runs the last two games and have only barely been competitive. Paul Konerko is hitting home runs! They're at home! And none of it matters. They catch a break today in facing Bullington, but they may need to score 20 runs to win. Worse still, before the bullpen can even ruin things, they've got to rely on an increasingly over-rated Mark Bueheheheireelee. I'm reminded of Tom Glavine's final start with the Mets on the last day of the season last year on this one.
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Only about 135 days
until pitchers and catchers report!
Although, this offseason promises to be fascinating. Lots of different ways to go.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 28, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
Missing in this post
is any mention of our tenuous hold on fourth place and the Kittycats’ surprising 3 wins over the AL East Champion Rays. I’d love for us to win today and/or the Tigers to lose so we can be guaranteed to not have the cellar to ourselves. That said, to have taken two from the Twins is a darned good accomplishment, and if we lose this one (though I certainly hope we don’t) and the Tigers manage to sweep the Rays, I find myself unable to feel major disappointment. For the Tigers to sweep the Rays would be an incredible accomplishment against insane odds. And two of three from the Twins (much as I hope we do win this one as well) would be a darned good showing for the Royals.
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I feel like we should be asking eachother to sign our yearbooks.
by Randa4life on Sep 28, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG
by Matt Klaassen on Sep 28, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, The Chiefs
And Broncos are on network TV right now. Chiefs up 3-0.
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correction
6-0, but should be 10-0.
I hereby resign from this post.
by Home Run Tony Cogan on Sep 28, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That Last Drive
Was prematurely Hermanated; LJ up the middle 3 times.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Detroit and Tampa 0-0 going to bottom of 2nd
Zach Miner vs. James Shields
….I’d like Tampa’s chances if they keep Shields in for a normal length start, even though they are resting Navarro, Bartlett, and Pena.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
and as I type that, Shields is out after one inning...in comes Mitch Talbot...
and his 8.22 ERA
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We Got Kila!
M. Aviles ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .323
A. Callaspo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .311
J. Guillen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
R. Shealy 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
M. Teahen lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255
A. Gordon 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .261
K. Ka’aihue dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
J. Buck c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
M. Maier cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .284
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
BamBam is being saved for PR and late inning defense, right?
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I just tossed up a fan post
breaking down the last two weeks. The numbers are very sick, and worth a peek.
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Chiefs Retake The
Lead on a defensive takeaway (2 yard TD drive, LJ TD), 13-7.
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White Sox are down 1-0 in the 2nd
The media keeps chirping about how historic the Mets meltdown is, but the Sox are doing everything they can to choke away their season
Looking for a new team.
AL Central Update
Tampa 0
Detroit 5 Top 5
—David Price comes in f rom the pen and cleans up a bases loaded mess to keep TB in striking distance.
Cleveland 1
Chi Sox 0 Top 2
—Jhonny Peralta dinger off of Buerhle
KC 0
Minn 0 Bottom 1
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
5-1 Detroit.....Rocco Baldelli HR gets the Rays on the board
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Rocco!
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hard to tell but it doesn't look good
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked Like Maybe
His own man kicked him in the lower leg or ankle. I’m watching with no sound, listening to the Royals.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
With the Twins lineup
I’m happy for him to limit some of these guys to one base.
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Death From Above
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Has LJ been running well today? his numbers say so..
"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde
he had one looooooooooooooooooong run
that’s padding his numbers….longest run of his career
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see the Twins continue choking in the first inning
realistically speaking
This Is Making
For and odd conversation.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Detroit 5 Tampa 3 ......Eric Hinske two-run bomb off of Miner
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
Baker wants no part of Kila
realistically speaking
did he really just work around him to get to Buck
It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird.
It felt like it.
I mean hey, pitch to large scary looking left handed hitter or .220 right handed hitting catcher.
realistically speaking
what?????????? Royals don't walk against Minnesota pitching
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't hide
your Hawaiian eye!
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Eagles reference
“Hawaiian Punch” doesn’t fit for a walk.
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An Eagles Reference
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Eagles fans?
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Wow nice AB buck
swing through 2 90mph COOKIES then take strike 3
realistically speaking
How do twins pitchers keep beating us witih 90mph fastballs?
realistically speaking
I'm Sure trey is pissed that Kila didn't swing the bat.
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I'm Glad A-Gor
Made an out on purpose against a RHP; brilliant!
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2-1 ChiSox....bases loaded one out....still threatening...
Bullington = not good
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
He's out of the inning if Carrol doesn't boot the DP ball
realistically speaking
Brandon Duckworth is really not a very good pitcher.
I mean really.
realistically speaking
Um I think it's pretty safe to say it is
realistically speaking
the sad thing is he probbly has better stuff than Bannister
realistically speaking
But he doesn't have Banny's
BRAAAAAINS!
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the Royals are good at creating those opportunities
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, he started the home opener for Philly one year!
realistically speaking
and since they've gotten rid of him they have won the NL east two years in a row.. hmm..
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Post Ergo Propter
Hoc.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what's crazy?
He went 6 innings in that game, gave up 1 run and struck out 10. The next game he struck out 9. The game after that, 12. Yes, at one point in time Brandon Duckworth had really nasty stuff.
realistically speaking
Yeah, he started the 02 season with 19 IP
30K’s, 6BB’s, 13H’s, 5ER.
realistically speaking
I heard that Ducky was a huge fan favorite at Omaha this year.
Can anybody verify this?
He Might Be
The perfect AAAA pitcher.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Good pitch to Span.... NOT
realistically speaking
PAINT!
Twins chokefest continues. How they only have 1 run so far is beyond me.
realistically speaking
Maier on
Perfect time for an AVILANCHE!
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NL Wildcard (Choke-a-thon) Update
Florida 0
NYM 0 Bottom 4
—Somehow Scott Olsen and Oliver Perez haven’t blown up yet and are both pitching well.
Cubs 1
Brewers 0 Top 4
—Cubs score unearned run on a Fielder error….Brewers have one hit off of the Angel Guzman-Chad Gaudin combo.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
Fielder made an error that cost CC a run in his last start also
realistically speaking
Im really happy Avilanche hit 10 HR this season.
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Anyone else notice that LJ's turnaround
has coincided with him running more angry again? Not just takin it out of bounds but actually layin a hit on a DB.
yeah. He's a baby.
He wears diapers.
Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.
Blech mike has looked horrible in his 2 AB's so far
realistically speaking
Does anyone think that Callaspo can turn into a Polanco type of hitter with less power?
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Watching him hit makes me think Polanco
In other news, the umpires just blew a call at the SOx game and hawk was pictured leaning out the press box with his hands up in the air in disgust
realistically speaking
he was going off last night
there was a 1-1 pitch that was called a ball, and he was convinced it lead to 6 indians runs
I think we can allow Furcal to join another squad in the offseason.
Let’s focus on other positions. SS and 2B are filled.
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Ouch
Why the heck???
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Unless a hit-and-run was called for
then he can’t be blamed, can he?
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is there any chance Grienke throws today or has he been completely shut down like said by the royals?
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i'm going to go with zero chance
realistically speaking
Maybe pressing a little bit?!
realistically speaking
Glad to see we showed up for the game today
not
realistically speaking
Duckworth hits young in the back....
pen!
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WTF Duck? Buck?
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The Royals defense is looking like the Chiefs tackling today.
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The Chiefs Do
Not tackle!
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to be really pissed if the twins win
because we threw away a perfect double play ball
realistically speaking
Duck season should be over
Bring on wabbit season! (hmm….who could we hang that nickname on?)
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lol he has no idea where the ball is going
i think we’re trying to give the twins this game
realistically speaking
that wouldn't be fair to Chicago,
so I doubt it.
Don't Stop Believing!
Time To Fly
South, Ducky.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to be upset if we lose because we didn't throw Grienke today.
He’d of been fine for next year.
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Tampa threatening....2nd & 3rd...one out....Casey Fossum in from pen
still 5-3 detroit as fo now
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
We are absolutely handing them this game
realistically speaking
Buck obviously has some kind of deal in place with the Twins.
He must hate the sox.
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Minda. Where are you with our Omaha answers?
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sounds like a good backup for us next year.
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Aaargh!
Can we field any worse?
(Do I want to know the answer to that?)
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So now we've given them THREE extra outs this inning
Amazing.
realistically speaking
I hate that designed toss sweep that is not really a sweep.
The only reason being BECAUSE WE NEVER RUN A REAL SWEEP!!
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Now Punto K's.
Seriously. The Twins do not want to win this game. And we are handing it to them.
realistically speaking
The Twins didn't ge ta hit in that inning?
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I Can't Believe
They only scored 1.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty good recovery
Lucky Ducky
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9 baserunners in 3 innings for the twins, 2 runs
By the grace of the TWins suckyness we are still in this game
realistically speaking
the Twins ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM
hardly a very analytical statement, but would anyone disagree with me?
Sabathia dealing......Brewers O-ffense nowhere to be found
Both teams only have one hit….1-0 Cubs bottom 5…..K. Hart pitching for Chicago
Mets & Marlins still no score in 6th
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Another INT For
KC; who’s #39? He should return kicks.
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Not happy with taht botched play? or injury
realistically speaking
Neither is very appealing
But I’d prefer the punishment scenario. If he’s injured, it means his hamstrings exploded again.
Punishment for throwing error?
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The back end of the cubs bullpen....which they started today vs Sabathia
4.2 IP, 1H, 7K’s
realistically speaking
Beat by another 90mph fastball....
embarassing
realistically speaking
Huard Put Up
A real duck, Bowe went up over the defender to catch it.
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Mets are chokin' it up, just walked in a run 2-0 FLA
realistically speaking
ERA's A Deceptive
Stat sometimes.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see the umpiring tonight is jsut as terrible
pitch right down the middle at the knees ball 1
realistically speaking
Tampa threatening again......bases loaded nobody out.....down 5-3
top 8….Carl Crawford up
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
Scott Baker, just too good.
realistically speaking
Why does this toolbag own us?
It’s not like he’s Cliff Lee. You know if we’d faced last year’s Cliff Lee five times, we’d be 81-80?
Gordon robbed.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
Is That A
Compliment.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
5-5 Tampa ties it up in Detroit.....
Jonny Gomes ground rule double…..2nd and 3rd…..still nobody out
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Put the cat out!!
Rays have tied the score at 5 and are still batting in the top of the 8th.
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goddamn even gordon swinging at pitches up by his eyes
realistically speaking
now Kila takes a turn....
90mph unhittable baby
realistically speaking
Blyleven's almost as bad at pronouncing Ka'aihue
as Hawk. But not quite.
Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.
and buck flails helplessly, 92 that time
realistically speaking
if they win this....David Price has earned is post-season roster spot
he bailed them out of that jam early on that kept them in this game
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like OU, Mizzou, and Texas (maybe) are legit....I'm not quite sold on TTech yet
we’ll find out more in the next few weeks as conference play starts
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets rally...2-2 now....Beltran homers off of Olsen
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, Ducky is sailing now
If only we had some defense…and some offense.
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Baker owns our souls, I wouldn't expect much
realistically speaking
Not To Me
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
7-5 Rays now
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we've now struck out 4 times in a row
realistically speaking
JoGui needs 3 RBI. Put Callaspo on, 3 run homer, and he's got 20-100
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Rey Durham leadoff double for BrewCrew....heart of order coming up
Sean Marshall throwing for Cubbies
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
This is your chance Jose!
realistically speaking
and you fail miserably, well done sir
realistically speaking
Beltran hr ties it up for the Mets
Go Royals!
how bad is he hurt, i have it muted
realistically speaking
I'm Not Listening
Either.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey all
Wow, I really can’t believe this is it for the 2008 season. Time flies when you’re having fun, I guess.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Craig Counsell might be the most clutch player ever
Just walked with the bases loaded 2 outs to tie the game
realistically speaking
HBP Would Have
Been grittier.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
NL Wild Card update
Brewers tied the game at 1 in bottom 7
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brewers tie it up double, walk, walk, walk
Go Royals!
Former Royal Joe Nelson is pitching for Florida in their 2-2 tie game with the Mets
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Ducky's gamelogs are always fun to look at
what with the even K:BB ratio and such.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Did you see the numbers I posted earlier?
His start to the 2002 season?
In 3 starts:
30K’s, 6BB’s, 13H’s, 5ER.
I had no idea he was ever capable of being that good.
realistically speaking
He was,
as with so many pitchers, a big prospect once.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
He's decent back of the rotation depth
which is why the Royals keep him around.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
White Sox up 5-1 now....looks like that game will be played tomorrow with Detroit
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
I want a one game playoff
just because those are fun.
A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.
Bucky Dent Agrees
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed. i think i heard that Detroit would start Freddy Garcia....
who is Ozzie’s good buddy…..and he was not happy about comments Ozzie made about him when he was trying to make his comeback.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Tompkins Industries
gets a free plug without pitching change happening.
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all of these muy importante games are being decided by former Royals
Joe Nelson pitching in New York, where Beltran’s homer has kept the Mets in it. Jermaine just singled in two to put the Sox up four runs.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Kittycats tie it up
at 7 with the Rays, no outs bottom 9th
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Ducky needs to man up and get this last out
realistically speaking
antoher quality start for Ducky :)
Go Royals!
And he does
Duck season ends with a nice performance, marred by defensive and offensive blunders.
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Ducky has GRIT!
Say what you want, but I want him at our AAA level at the least so that he can come up and do this for us when we have injuries!!
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Clutch K or the duck
big game performance, should only have allowed 1 run
realistically speaking
116 pitches in 6 innings...........typical Royals efficiency
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
remember he had to get like 6 outs that one inning
realistically speaking
true.....typical Royals defense
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
so you're saying it should have been 7 innings and 116.
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Smith hitting for Butler?
What the helllllllllllllllll
realistically speaking
final major league at bat?
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Sep 28, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
and of course it works
realistically speaking
Not Now
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Chiefs going to win with Huard?
I thought only Brody could win games.
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Donkeys Still Breathing.
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by philofthenorth on Sep 28, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice pitch selection mark
not
realistically speaking
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