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1B/DH Madness Update, or Shealy Now!

With the annual September privilege of expanded rosters, the Royals promoted forgotten savior Ryan Shealy and internet hero Kila Ka'aihue. With supposed prospect Billy Butler and Everyday Ross Gload (who started something like 400 consecutive games for Hillman) the most impotent team of the decade suddenly found itself with four options at 1B/DH.

Lets take a look at how Hillman has divided the playing time thus far.

1B DH In-Game Subs
9/2 Shealy Butler
9/4 Shealy Butler
9/4 Butler Guillen Gload 2 innings, 0 PAs; Kila PR for Guillen
9/5 Ka'aihue Butler
9/6 Shealy Butler
9/7 Butler Guillen

Sigh.

Although Hillman has somewhat surprisingly relegated Gload to the bench -- though he did start in left on 9/5 -- he's seemingly undermined that partial solution by introducing Guillen into the DH mix. Given the viccisitudes of the Hillman-Guillen relationship, it's impossible for this uinformed outsider to say exactly why this is happening, however the simplest explanation is that Hillman is loath to remove Citizen Hoagy from the lineup for fear of clubhouse eruption #117 of 2008.

Dayton Moore deserves these two, since he brought them together.

With Guillen sliding into semi-regular DH mode, a wider playing time philosophy may be exposing itself:

PAs since 9/2
Butler 24
Guillen 24
Shealy 11
Gload 4
Ka'aihue 4

Now, I know what you're expecting: an impassioned cry of Kila Now! and 2-4 Huber anecdotes. To do so would be to do a disservice to Huber's legacy however. This is still Kila's first callup, not his third or fourth, and we are still dealing with a player who has only seen something like 140 PAs above AA. A large part of Kila's callup is to acclimate him to the off-the-field side of professional baseball and to reward him, emotionally and financially, for his tremendous performance this season. We're stil two years from Kila reaching true Huber status, and unlike, say, Huber v. Minky years ago, there's still some definite upside potential ($1 dollar to Simmons) in Ryan Shealy. It's in the best interests of the franchise to get Shealy more at bats than Kila this month.

The problem is that Shealy isn't playing enough, and may never, given Hillman's desire to keep Guillen and Butler in the lineup every... single... day. Guillen, granted, is possibly a seperate issue, and only a partial member of the 1B/DH club. Yes, he shouldn't be playing, but maybe it's just easier for everyone if he does, even with the cascade effects this creates.

Butler however, as weird as it seems to say this, should not be playing everyday anymore. The Royals have been remarkably patient with Billy this season, on the heels of handig him an everyday role from late June of his rookie year. Yes, Butler remains light years ahead of the other candidates, and indeed of everyone else on the roster, in terms of his potential ceiling. (Light years, ceiling? Yay mixed metaphors.) Nevertheless, the blogosphere is nothing if not the exploration of minor issues in major detail, and Butler's development -- which has been towards Ken Harvey this season -- is not going to be curtailed if he loses 20 September PAs to Ryan Shealy. He's still 22, and to date, he's the owner of 796 Big League PAs. Hillman can take the pedal off the Butler accelerator over the next three weeks. I'm no Shealy fan at this point, but you could make a case that there still might be something there, especially given his injury issues last season. He's certainly not in the Gload zone yet.

The Royals have twenty games left and roughly 180 1B/DH PAs to play with. Trey's been something of a dullard thus far in terms of sneaking guys PAs late in games (Kila in as a PR, wow, that was Buddy-esque) and I'd love to see that change. Overall, here's how I'd like to see those final 180 PAs distributed:

Shealy 90
Butler 55
Ka'aihue 30
Gload 5
Guillen 0

Shealy Now!

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I'm glad you are able to keep perspective enough to preserve and honor Huber's legacy

Whither Shane Costa, though?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

curse of gathright killed costa

but his beautious image lives on forever

by royalsreview on Sep 8, 2008 1:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The image of Costa

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 8, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"its all mental..........."

Yup.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 2:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he needs to put a little more curl on that hat brim

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 8, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he could be a low-cost stopgap at 1B next year

with Butler at DH

and, again, i’m not saying Butler should get the Gload treatment, but sitting two or maybe three times a week isn’t terrible either, from where i sit

by royalsreview on Sep 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You only sit two or three times a week?

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I recommend more fiber in your diet

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 8, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He looks like a low-cost, below average 1B stopgap at 1B right now

What else would maximizing his playing time tell us? I think we know that he’s decent, but not very good right now. If he were to get 90 PA’s instead of 40 in September, I don’t think that would tell us much more. I’d much rather maximize the PA’s of a genuinely talented young player with upside.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i guess it depends on what you make of what Butler is getting/doing now

as a non-scout/coach, I fully admit I basically don’t know what I’m talking about, and I certainly don’t know if there are certain specific mechanical things he may or may noyt be supposed to be working on down the stretch here

that being said, i’d think there would have to be some declining returns with regard to the benefit of 450 PAs versus 480, or whatever it is, and those may be much smaller than at the other end of the playing time spectrum

however, if you essetially think Shealy is what he is, or worse, then its probably not worth it to play him at all anyway

by royalsreview on Sep 8, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Butler going into the Cleveland series

was hitting .475 in the last 10 games and Hillman saw two lefty starters in Jackson/Lee. Going forward maybe he sits some more, although I would greatly disagree with that choice.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Sep 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Butler is really in a groove right now

and letting him finish the season out regularly might really help him going into next season. (Of course we can’t predict that it will but I like to think it helps more then sitting him.)

by I need more Esteban on Sep 8, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SHEALY FOREVER!

I do think Shealy AND Butler should be playing every day, even if it means Josie sits the bench. In fact, ESPECIALLY if it means Josie has to sit the bench.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 8, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bench Hoagy???!!! Someone is asking for an "ass clamping!"

NB for the faint of heart: It is probably not a good idea to do a google search for “ass clamping” or even just “clamps” with Google SafeSearch off. Even “Futurama clamps” can be a bit, um… (shudder)

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

people like futurama?

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Sep 8, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If there are any people left

who haven’t had their brains destroyed forcing themselves to laugh at Family Guy and Malcolm in the Middle.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People laugh at Malcolm in the Middle?

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Sep 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Apparently

It was on for multiple years. What really shocks me is that people must be laughing at “Two and a Half Men”

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

Sitcoms have really gone downhill. If it wasn’t for HBO I doubt if I would watch anything besides sports

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Sep 8, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two and a Half Men

huge in qatar

This space intentionally left blank.

by marbotty on Sep 8, 2008 6:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why did malcom keep getting emmy noms?

i never got that

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on Sep 8, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

layers, Onion-boy

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 8, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Malcolm was a clever concept, it broke the mold

of live studio audience sit-coms with laugh tracks and was shot “drama” style, which many of the good sit-coms are now doing. It was a pioneer, it just got real old, real quick.

We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan

by Royal Kingdom on Sep 9, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kids do not age well

On TV

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 9, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Malcolm has aged alright

for a midget

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Sep 9, 2008 11:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Larry Sanders Show was gold

That last season was close to perfect. The guest apperences by David Duchovny were rib cracking funny.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Sep 10, 2008 8:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoagie needs to go to the DL for his continual problems with his groin/legs

Problem partially solved — no more Guillen at DH for the rest of the season.

by Top Ramen on Sep 8, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are we really surprised that things aren't going as they should?

This was expected by the Royal Nation when we knew call-ups where coming. (at least it should have been)

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 8, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think "as they should" is very debatable

It’s not like the Royals fan nation agrees on what should be done. Many (probably most) of us want Kaaihue to play everyday. Some want Kaaihue to play just a little. Some want Shealy to play almost everyday (at the expense of Butler). So no matter what Hillman does, a significant portion of the “Royals Nation” would say that he isn’t doing things as he should.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

that should be the real target. As so often on here, we’re caught between what we think “should” be done and what, realistically, we can expect Royals management to do.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shealy has played 3 of the 5 games so I don’t really think that is all that bad. Butler was hot as hell for 10 games so he was gonna get the everyday AB’s. 5 out of 6 lefties means Kila wasn’t gonna play much.

Every fight is a food fight when you’re a cannibal.
-- Demetri Martin

by kcscoliny on Sep 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my point was that Trey sits guys that get called up for multiple games

That’s what he is doing to Kila. I knew deep down that Kila wouldn’t play much early but I tried to ignore it. I think he’s playing Shealy enough, maybe not quite enough, but yeah, no one wants JoGui stealing Kila/Shealy ABs.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 8, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

worked for Aviles

whether it was the reason or not can’t be determined, but giving Aviles a taste, then sitting him could have eased him into everything. The other side to it is that maybe he would’ve started crushing all along, we’ll never know.

by I need more Esteban on Sep 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can't play everyone who gets called up in September every game

I think platooning Shealy and Kila is the best way to get the most playing time for the two of them, if that is one’s goal.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds like a challenge!

</ bob boone>

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on Sep 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It can be done

Everybody gets 3 innings per game. Problem solved.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just like Little League!

and everyone will get a trophy!

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 8, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea

We have Callaspo and German (barely)…then…uh…uh…uh. Yep.

Too many second baseman.

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Sep 8, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we can make TPJ a 2B.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 8, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Gload with his grit.

Grit can play anywhere.

Don't forget to send your broken maples to the US Forest Service.

by 306008 on Sep 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

every SS is more of a fit at 2B

Aviles = shortstop

Rowdy Hardy Fan Club member.

by doublestix on Sep 8, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pet Peeve
…acclimate him to the off-the-field side of professional baseball…

You mean, he hasn’t had enough acclimation in his previous several years of professional baseball?

Sarcasm™. It's the new gravy.

by jonfmorse on Sep 8, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everything is different in the majors!

He’s got to learn the feel of the majors, like how to handle the hard-hitting KC area sports journalists.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

callaspo= another classic royal deadbeat

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on Sep 8, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, except for his OBP

If only OBP were important.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 8, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

baseba;; ???

Is that another language? Canadian?

The concept of progress acts as a protective mechanism to shield us from the terrors of the future. - Collected sayings of Muad'Dib

by buddyball on Sep 8, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 8, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guillen is the anti midas

but this lineup has tons of problems, from Gathright to Teahen to two catchers who don’t get on base for weeks at a time

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on Sep 8, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

butler since aug 1

.331/.338/.488

"So whattya say, should we clean this place up?" - Tom Cruise

by DyeFan187 on Sep 8, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe the royals need the final 20 games to see what kind of a player Jome Run Jose is?

which one of the players we saw during the season (bad, amazing, really bad, injured, bad, then mediocre) is he really? he is a bigger investment than the Bussy Butler, Shealy, Kila Monster, and G-Load combined.

(but really I know that the reason is he would throw a fit if he were benched for more than two innings in a row)

by benfunke on Sep 9, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or are hoping that his stats will improve a bit, making him easier to trade

Just a minor thought. It is possible that he is on a bit of a hot streak.

last 14 days – .333/.364/.476

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 9, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My analysis

The Royals faced 5 lefties in the 6 games, so the plan should have been 1 start for Kila, 5 starts for Shealy, and 6 for Butler.

I disagree with RR on Butler – I want him to play every day.

The REAL issue for me is that Shealy sat twice, essentially so JOEY GATHRIGHT could start against a LEFTY!

The organization still appears to be wildly overvaluing outfield defense, especially in home games. There approach might make some more sense if we were actually getting power production from the corner infield spots and DH – but to me, it is kinda stupid to replace what little potential power you do have with the likes of Gathright.

by loyal2sdad on Sep 9, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

The overvaluing of Gathright’s defense is even more hilarious (and ironic) in the case of Jose Guillen’s contract and performance.

I can’t wait for them to trade for Brett Gardner AND sign Pat Burrell in the offseason…

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 9, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would think that

we can find PT for Kila, Shealy, and Butler. As for Gload…who cares. Guy shouldn’t be in the lineup, period. If we have to be fair to Rossy…stick him in left field.

A mind without purpose will walk in dark places.

by NHZ on Sep 9, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gload in LF?

Unfair to fans sitting in LF bleacher.

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 9, 2008 2:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would it be the worst thing in the entire world

to play either Shealy or Kila in LF? If your primary goal is to get a player AB, you are going to lose anyway, what the hell is the harm in rehashing the Ken Harvey experiment.

by ajblobaum on Sep 10, 2008 2:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CONFUSION IN THE CLUBHOUSE!!!111

OMG Banny. FWIW I am only crdtng u w/3 runs allwd bc of DDJ OMFG

by devil_fingers on Sep 10, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i seem to remember Shealy

getting some PT in the outfield before he was a Royal.

(or maybe that’s what my PS2 game tells me)

by benfunke on Sep 10, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, the Rox tried him in the OF and he was a disaster

It would be a really awful idea to call these guys up to the majors and start playing them at a different position they haven’t played in years (and in Kila’s case…ever).

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by NYRoyal on Sep 10, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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