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I was wondering what other folks in the Royals Nation are expecting from Luke this year? If I recall correctly last year he had a problem ending innings (would get into trouble with 2 outs) a lot. If he straightens that out what would you expect from him? I was thinking 8-10 wins with a era of mid 4s would not be to absurd of a improvement. I think he will take a step forward this year and become a legit 3-4 starter for us.

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I think you are right

while his ERA was bad, defense independent stats like FIP and tRA showed that he was actually OK last year — maybe a bit below average, so, yeah, already like a 3-4 starter. The Royals crappy infield defense (other than Aviles) didn’t help. Hopefully, it will improve this year (Mike Jacobs will be Hoch’s worst enemy if he plays first a significant amount of time) with Gordon returning to at least average, or better, his very good 2007 form on defense and Aviles, who is unlikely to put in another Everettian number up, can be at least average. Some luck would help, too.

So, yes, I think Hochevar projects as at least a #4, and probably more like a #3 with some upside.

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by devil_fingers on Jan 14, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Projections

Bill James 6-10 4.95146 IP 100 K 52 BB
CHONE 5-7 4.97 114 IP 72 K 43 BB
Marcel 6-9 4.65 123 IP 78 K 44 BB

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They don't play the season on paper or on a computer

Shame on you. Shame.

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by NYRoyal on Jan 14, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If there are no freak injuries (line drive off the forearm)

I’d say he’s a .500 pitcher with at least 20 decisions. He could get it figured out.

Like I said last year, he used his sink and run to much (because he wasn’t consistant enough to get ahead with it). Start hitters with the normal 4 seamer (unless you are in a GB needed situation) to get ahead, then use the great movement to make guys chase. Use the slider more. Change to the lefties. You know… pitching. Not just throwing and trying to get great movement because everyone is enamored with it….

All in all: He needs to become more consistent with his delivery mechanics and release point, he needs to get ahead (not challenge more because I think he already is, he just can’t keep it in the zone), and he needs to compliment his sinker with his offspeed more.

If everything connects, we’re looking at 14 wins.

That's why we play the season on paper.

by 306008 on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

20-5 225 IP 165 K 2 Bb

Pretty easy to figure out actually

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i was actually thinking

25-0 1.25 ERA 250 Strikeouts 230 Innings

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Jan 14, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Luke isn't hung like a horse, a horse is hung like Luke

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can he beat out Horacio Ramirez for a rotation spot?

Most of baseball will be on pins and needles to await the conclusion of that spring training battle.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 14, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Even if the answer is no,

Bannister could very easily donate his spot.

by Warden11 on Jan 14, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it would be out of the question to see

4.25 ERA with 11-12 wins. He had some games last year that were good until he forgot what he was doing and all of the sudden would give up 4 runs with 2 outs. If he cuts those out he will see some significant improvement.

by AxDxMx on Jan 14, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My laptop won't let me post a Fanshot for some reason

GMDM will be on 610 am at 3:30 CST if you wanna check it out.

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

link to podcast, pls...

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by devil_fingers on Jan 14, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.610sports.com/

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Luke's kcscoliny is gonna be wrong projections

30 GS 181.1 IP 110 So 59 Bb 23 HR allowed 4.85 ERA if I’m doing the figuring right his FIP would be somewhere in the 4.61 range

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can Hochevar be the 2009 version of Mike Pelfrey of the Mets?

They’re both similar ground ball pitchers and Pelfrey after struggeling finally had something click in the middle of 2008. He stopped walking people and Hochevar doesn’t really have that problem so he should be alright.
Pelfrey’s average fastball is 92.7
Hochevar’s average fastball is 93.0

by Royal from Queens on Jan 14, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i don't know where you got that velocity

but his average was 90.7 last year.

maybe it’d be 93 if he dumped the 2 seam sinker, but that’d be dumb.

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by doublestix on Jan 14, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. I apologize

I just completely mis-read the number from the page.
Sorry. Yeah you’re right it was 90.7.

by Royal from Queens on Jan 14, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyway

the point I was trying to make was, would it be a fair comparison?

by Royal from Queens on Jan 14, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's not a bad one

Pelfrey has a really, really good fastball though. Luke has better secondary stuff.

They are similar though…tall sinker ball types. Consistency goes a long way with those type of pitchers, and trusting your stuff.

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by doublestix on Jan 14, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His avg according to pitch f/x

was about 90-91 while his max on most nights was 93-93.8. He did have one game vs Boston 5/19 where he had multiple pitches top 94 mph.

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by kcscoliny on Jan 14, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

luke will be a fine pitcher

plus now he has the power of me handshake, which cures everything.

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by doublestix on Jan 14, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"They're always after

me lucky handshakes!"

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Jan 17, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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