At Least Jeff Kent Got Dressed Up for His Cliche-Ridden, Self-Serving Retirement Press Conference

by royalsreview on Jan 22, 2009 10:56 PM EST in News Comment 40 comments

He always acted like a great guy, just ask him. Or one of his white teammates. Or motorcycle friends.

We have 24 hours to find another defender of our national innocence and the integrity of the game. If not... well, it's too damn horrible to even talk about.

Does anyone have Sean Casey's phone number?

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Hall of Famer.

I don’t care if the guy is a jerk or not. He had a hell of a career.

by GoBabies!! on Jan 22, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wow, RR

you really think the press always loved Kent and was really good to him?

You’re right, I couldn’t go a week in the season without some article about what a leader Jeff Kent was, how misunderstood he was, how he just wanted to win, and so on

way to stick it to The Man

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by devil_fingers on Jan 22, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

sorry, a bit over the top there

not a Kent fan, but I just don’t get where you’re going here

It’s sort of tough to be with you when you get angry about steroids accusations, when you seem to imply something much worse about Kent that would basically involve reading his mind on the basis of filtered through stories from the press

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by devil_fingers on Jan 22, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hall of Famer

And so is Roberto Alomar

by Royal from Queens on Jan 22, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

who isn't a Hall of Famer anymore?

The Hall has been so devalued over the last few years I really don’t care who they put in. It’s just a shame that deserving guys like Santo and Bert Bly somehow don’t get in.

by royalsreview on Jan 23, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

or bobby grich or darrell evans

I guess it’s their fault for never playing in Boston

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dewey Evans

Was a Red Sox player and I don’t get why he doesn’t get more support.

I don’t think Don Mattingly or Keith Hernandez should be in, but I’m kinda surprised they don’t get more support.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 23, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

everyone knows Mattingly wasn't good enough for long enough

(line)

Those other guys don’t have Gammons yammering about them and slamming anyone who says otherwise.

James lists all the reasons darrell evans never made it in (although he should) — moved around too much, low average

Grich got screwed — over there careers, Rice was one win better than Grich offensively (adjusted for park and era)… except Grich was a Gold Glove 2B. Rice shouldn’t be in at all, but I think Grich should be.

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kirby Puckett really shouldn't be in either

by royalsreview on Jan 23, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but he was such a great guy!

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kirby

got a lot of sympathy vote for the eye injury. Not saying it was right or wrong, my personal – un-objective view is that he is a HOF’er.

(unobjective b/c Kirby was one of my favorites in my formidable years; 4th – 10th grade)

by GoBabies!! on Jan 23, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Grich's lack of support

Really confounds me

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 23, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you said it yourself

batting average

that and second basemen probably get screwed as much as 3Bs

btw, maybe I should start another thread for this… but I’m wanting to write some historical WAR evaluations, and I’m wondering, who are a couple players (or better, just one) who would be “baseline HoFers.” That is, players who pretty much everyone would agree inthe hall of Fame, but are the “worst” who should be in. Does that make sense? Someone who we can say, “if this guy is in, this other guy is in.” But a good versino of that argument, e.g., not Rabbit Maranville (although I like him too much to use him like this) or Jim Rice.

I’d just need one position player for now, althouhg the more the better, and maybe a starting pitcher. I’m not going to touch relievers for now. I only need one or two position players because I can use positional adjustments to compare.

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If Mattingly can stay on the ballot long enough

until the younger generation will begin to get voting privileges he might get some additional support for his sideburns

by Top Ramen on Jan 24, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No comment on Grich or Evans

I wasn’t born yet when they were playing. But I do know about Kent and Alomar

by Royal from Queens on Jan 23, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I liked what he said actually

HOF – Not a first ballot though since the press hates him.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Jan 22, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

yeah, i dunno

I didn’t see the press conference

here’s one (of many) “Kent for HoF” articles

Here’s a more critical view from Tom Tango.

I have no opinion at the moment. Biggio’s last few years of replacement-level embarrassment hurt his legacy, but I think his overall peak was far superior.

Kent was a hell of a hitter, though. Him on Bonds on the same team is classic.

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by devil_fingers on Jan 22, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

gritty as Grudz?

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Jan 22, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

I believe he will be a first ballot..

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Jan 23, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, I think

Him & Biggio are both first ballot guys.

But personally, I think the shear fact that some members of the press specifically think that guys ’aren’t 1st ballot guys, but are HOF’ers’ is a fucking joke, and anyone that DOES think like that, that has a vote should have their voting privileges removed.

The simple fact that so many voters were lured into the sympathy vote for ‘poor Jim RIce who has waited 15 years to get the nod’ before voting for him is a disgrace

by GoBabies!! on Jan 23, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, the whole "first ballot" thing is stupid

and probably just delays/screws up the induction of some players because people are concerned about “bestowing the honor” of being a first ballot guy.

I mean, Yogi Freaking Berra wasn’t a first-ballot HoFer. WTF? There are others, too…

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rickey f'ng Henderson?

I know JoePo spent many pixels speaking it about it this year and I haven’t read a decent rebuttal yet. If Rickey Henderson doesn’t deserve to be voted in, who the fuck does?

I just got back from your mom's basement.

by Warden11 on Jan 23, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

of course Rickey got voted in

just not unanimously. NO one’s ever gotten in unanimously, although the stupidity is parallel to the “first ballot” thing

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes

voting privileges should also be revoked for anyone that DIDN’T vote for an individual that got > 90% of the vote.

by GoBabies!! on Jan 24, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Great career!!!! I am not sorry to see him go.

by grudz96 on Jan 23, 2009 12:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

he was a great mentor in LA

he handled losing playing time very well

by royalsreview on Jan 23, 2009 12:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Sure fire Hall of Famer

And by that I mean the Douchebag Hall of Fame. He should be in the inaugural class with Dane Cook, Bill O’Reilly, and that guy in DC who sued a dry cleaner $67 million for a $10 dry cleaning bill.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 23, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

He should have beat up his wife and/or done PEDs

then he’d be a real hero

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sorry, I wish to strike that last remark from the record

lest I be confused with someone who likes Jeff Kent

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or gotten addicted to cocaine

Then quit.

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by RoyalsRetro on Jan 23, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"But Dad, he didn't _do_ anything?"

“Didn’t he, Lisa, didn’t he?”

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by devil_fingers on Jan 23, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Only Bonds could...

…actually succeed in making Kent look like an okay guy. …And only nice-guy Dusty Baker could’ve made that chemistry mess succeed in SF. Dusty should get in the HOF as a manager for getting that team to the WS in 2002. – TL

by timlacy on Jan 23, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs