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Royal's Strike Zone Judgement

Yesterday at Beyond the Box Score I wanted to see if Vladimir Guerrero was able to determine if a pitch was out of the strike zone and the results.  The only person I could think of with worse strike zone judgement was Miguel Olivo.  I ran the same numbers for Olivo and a few other Royals.  For my strike zone, I used -1.2 and 1.2 for the x dimension and 1.5 to 3.5 for the y dimension.  For the expanded zone I increased the x dimension to -2 and 2 and the y dimension to 0.5 and 4.5.  Here is the comparison of a few of your favorite Royals:

Description Alberto Callaspo David DeJesus Billy Butler Alex Gordon Willie Bloomquist Jose Guillen Mike Jacobs Miguel Olivo League Average
Called Balls 76.7% 76.2% 75.6% 74.4% 73.2% 69.7% 63.2% 53.9% 71.8%
Called Strike 3.5% 3.1% 1.3% 3.7% 2.0% 1.3% 2.9% 0.6% 2.2%
Fouls 8.4% 9.3% 7.9% 6.1% 8.8% 10.1% 11.3% 11.7% 9.3%
In play, no out 2.5% 1.6% 1.8% 0.9% 2.7% 1.9% 2.1% 1.7% 2.0%
In play, out(s) 4.9% 4.0% 3.4% 2.9% 5.5% 5.2% 5.2% 5.6% 4.5%
Swinging Strike 4.1% 5.9% 10.0% 12.0% 7.9% 11.8% 15.3% 26.5% 10.3%
Total Pitches 489 1328 1063 1067 559 1489 1173 648 424815
BABIP 0.333 0.284 0.345 0.244 0.326 0.274 0.291 0.234 0.303

 

I was surprised to see Willie's and Jose's numbers near the league averages.  Most of all, I just love looking a Miguel's line.  About half of the time he is swinging at pitches out of the zone.  A top of that, he misses pitches 1/2 of the time.  Then, with the balls he does put into play, only 23% end up as hits.  I will just say this for next season, if we are going to suck, we might as well have some characters like Miguel to make fun of on the team.

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variety is the spice of life. speaking of which, bring back TPJ the relief-pitcher.

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by benfunke on Oct 20, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How could I forget Pena, I will crank out those numbers by the end of the day.

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Oct 20, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that is just BABIP on balls out of the zone

So on balls outside the strikezone that the gritty one puts in play, .326 are hits.

His overall BABIP is .309

by kcbottom9th on Oct 20, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

i was worried for a second there about Butler

by marbotty on Oct 20, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read sometimes that the person goes out of the zone, but he is able to hit the ball well.

Miguel can’t actually hit the balls he sees out of the zone. Vlad actually cases more balls out of the zone, but comes up empty about 30% of the time, vice 50% or Olivo.

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Oct 20, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foul %

is there anything to be taken from that?

by royalsreview on Oct 20, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Truthfully not really, but I was making sure all the %'s add up.

The main way I would look at it is see their over all take rate, Balls and Called Strikes. Then see what they did when they chased. For example Callaspo would put the ball in play when he chases, while Gordon is likely to whiff. I should come with a take rate, a whiff rate and a contact rate.

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Oct 20, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, foul %

is just a part of contact rate. So it’s a plus vs. missing, but a minus vs. taking.

Of course, we have to keep in mind that some of those non-takes might actually be “called strikes” otherwise, meaning there’s an inherent human error component of about 3% in all the non-take numbers as well. A guy may feel pressured to try to do something with a pitch that he feels is a ball because the umpire has been giving the pitcher an extra inch outside or something.

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by jonfmorse on Oct 20, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or just to be safe

i.e. “protect the plate”. maybe that’s what Olivo has been up to this whole time.

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by benfunke on Oct 21, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for posting these

it is pretty darn cool to contemplate these %’s, and also facepalm Miggy.

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Oct 20, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What part of Gordon's numbers scare you?

He is above league average on determining that it is a ball. The lack of making contact when he does swing?

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Oct 20, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It ssems

That he lets too many strikes go by without doing anything, and then when he does swing at them he comes up empty more than he should.

Neither is he way outside the norm, but together is not the nicest combo.

by kcbottom9th on Oct 20, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see you Nick

You can write a great piece of Olivo weekly

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by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Oct 24, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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