Why I want the Yankees to Win the World Series
It is quite possible that my father would disown me if he were to ever hear me utter these words, but I want the Yankees to win the World Series this year.
Am I some sort of closet Yankees fan? No.
Do I have something against the Phillies and/or Angels? No.
Have I been seduced by A. Rod's inexplicable ability to succesfully play baseball for eight (!) consecutive games that happen to be in October? No. Well, yes, but that's not why.
My biggest problem with baseball currently is not umpiring/instant replay, it is not the use of PEDs by players, or the stats/scouts [false] dichotomy. My biggest problem with baseball currently is its inherently disadvantageous economic structures. If that is the case, why in the world would I root for the Yankees?
I am rooting for the Yankees this specific October because their economic behavior is borderline self-satire. After spending their way to the playoffs for a decade straight, the almighty Yankees missed out on the playoffs completely last year. To add insult to injury, they lost the division to a team with one of the lowest payrolls in baseball.
What was the Yankees' answer? To spend almost half a billion dollars on free agents. The result? Not only do the Yankees win the division, racking up the best record in baseball along the way, they do so by leapfrogging that same low payroll team that previously beat them out.
I am obviously frustrated by this economic injustice. However, I think the Yankees failing to win the world series would actually harm the movement towards a more equal economic playing field in baseball. "See, the Yankees spent a ton of money and still couldn't win the World Series! Nothing's wrong with baseball at all!"
Whereas if the Yankees, immediately following the first year in over ten years that they fail to make the playoffs (but still win a number of games that would make any Royals fan truly trust the Process), spend half a billion dollars on free agents and effectively buy a world series, I think that might cause enough outrage to build some momentum towards changing baseball's economic structures.
Obviously, a Yankee victory in the World Series will not be followed by the immediate instution of a salary cap, I'm not THAT idealistic.. But rather, in all of those offseason stories about the Yankees victory, how does their recent team additions/payroll NOT become a massive part of the story, if not THE story? I think the Yankees spending half a billion dollars to buy a World Series immediately following the year in which they do not make the playoffs will make people think long and hard about baseball's economics. Should the Yankees lose, it's all the ammunition that the apologists for baseball's economic structure need.
...or more likely, this is an intellectualized way of assuaging my fury at a seemingly imminent Yankees victory.
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One thing worth noting
the Yankees had a lower payroll in 2009 than in 2008
Also:
The best “apology” for baseballs current economic structure is the rank incompetence of small-market GMs like Dayton Moore.
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by Matt Klaassen on Oct 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My point (not that I have one: more of a pretentious thought experiment, really) was less about the annual payroll, and more about the spending spree of one offseason. The idea that an owner could throw a temper tantrum because they didn’t make the playoffs, and spend half a billion dollars in one go is what was absurd to me. In terms of annual average value, having Abreu, Giambi, Pavano et. Al. coming off the books was actually a bigger impact on payroll than the Tex/CC/Burnett additions.
For the Royals, front office competence is of larger importance than issues regarding payroll. However, all other things being equal, having less money to spend puts teams at a significant disadvantage.
Let's just trust the process.
by trusttheprocess on Oct 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes....dayton has been able to almost double the payroll since he took over and team hasnt improved......
very few of his signings have lived up to what they were signed for.
Cashman signed 3 FA this past offseason, they all earned their money.
Cashman did a good job, Dayton has not
Until GMs like Dayton quit doing stupid ass shit like signing Jogui and Farnsworth, I have no sympathy for them. We havent been awful b/c of money, we’ve been awful b/c of incompetent management. If we were in the east with Boston and NY, I might feel differently, but I currently have no problem with the financial structure in baseball. There’s no reason that we cant compete financially with every team in our division and should be able to make the playoffs.
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 23, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Burnett didn't earn his money
14.0M value on a 16.5M per year contract
That said, if I had my pick of any players on the market- shouldn’t I be hitting on a higher percentage of them? I have my choice of anyone out there.
Speaking of “I hate Yankee fans”, I was conversing with one at my work today- he was talking about how Burnett was a bum and how he wouldn’t mind if the Yankees signed John Lackey next year, It must be nice to be able to wallpaper over mistakes with money rather than having to actually make good decisions.
by sterlingice on Oct 24, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you, but I'd be willing to overpay by 2.5M
for 14M of value.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree....
hell, i wish one of our lower tier FA could come within 2.5 million of their contract
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no you don't.
The other day you were blasting Sweeney for “only” providing $8M in an $11M year.
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by jonfmorse on Oct 24, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then he only came with in 3 million
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by averagegatsby on Oct 24, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
that’s a huge difference. MY BAD.
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by jonfmorse on Oct 24, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just dont let it happen again.
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by averagegatsby on Oct 24, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that was one time in 5 years
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if this is burnett's best year by far...
then he’ll be a huge bust as well
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that relies on the definition of payroll
I would include signing bonuses and buyouts. That adds something like 12-13 million. Are they still lower?
by Salty on Oct 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I understand your frustration,
I think you need to be prepared for the next “fight” on Selig’s plate:
Draft reformation is probably going to be the biggest item seeked by the owners in the next CBA. I think Selig is content with the strides that have been made towards competitive balance (whether thoughtful people think they have been big enough strides is another matter, and one entirely nonimpactful to Selig’s thought process) during his tenure.
As for my opinion, I believe small markets can compete within the current structure – but they must have top notch front offices, scouting departements, and player development teams in place to do so.
My personal solution to the Yankee problem would be to relocate at least 1, if not 2 franchises in that market. If the Yankees continue to succeed and command such a large share of the local TV revenue after that, then more power to them.
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by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
draft reformation would fuck us over big time
we might as well kiss the Melville’s, Myers’, Dwyer’s and Hayenga’s (and even the Derrick Robinson’s, another first/supp round guy that we got in the 4th) goodbye if they start to change the draft.
baseball rules.
by doublestix on Oct 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft reformation, if I had a say in it,
would not only address a bonus scale for picks, but would also move towards creating a true world-wide draft. I realize that there are significant obstacles to this idea – but I really think Selig will try to move in this direction regardless of the obstacles. After all, he is a VERY stubborn man.
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by loyal2sdad on Oct 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's for sure.
A worldwide draft would make it better, however.
by Dadunca on Oct 23, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Royals don't spend money on the draft picks
due to slotting, I would imagine it gets spent on free agents instead.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and thats terrible
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Jose Guillen part 72
is not what i"m looking for.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want carlos beltran part 2
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Mets would be open to dumping him for Guillen
Let’s start that trade rumor so we can get blasted like that Brewers one did.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i miss carlos..
so much
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Putting new teams in New York doesn't hurt the Yankees at all
They’re already entrenched and it will take generations for that to change. All you’re going to do it hurt the teams you move there and possibly the Mets. I used to like the idea until I really started thinking about it- do you think a bunch of guys in Brooklyn are going to start cheering for the newest version of the Nationals when they can keep on the winning Yankees bandwagon?
by sterlingice on Oct 24, 2009 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree, although
an old-school brooklyn team would be pretty cool.
my take is that succeeding in a small market can be done, obviously, but it takes a lot more effort and less margin for error. that’s part of the reason that i will give DM some leeway, at least in the short-term. he has made some good and bad moves, but because he has to be almost 100% correct, any bad move he makes is going to hurt badly.
take everybody’s sabermetric hero, theo epstein, and look at some of their mistakes-brad penny, john smoltz, julio lugo, dice-k (to some degree) and maybe there are others that i’m missing-it sure is easy to paper over those when you can drop $20 million a year on ManRam, oh and go ahead and add JD Drew, David Ortiz, Coco Crisp on top of that.
that being said, i think that, while i’d like to see things change economically, the team is taking the correct approach with respect to spending heavily on the draft. where i am most concerned about evaluating DM is with respect to how the farm system produces talent. so far it hasn’t been enough, but it’s still early enough in the process to where you can’t really say one way or the other.
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Oct 24, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do like the draft pick approach
But essentially the Royals are buying expensive lottery tickets in the draft. Free agency is more like buying a stock. If the underlying fundamentals of the player are solid, then investing in him should bring a solid return. Dayton has been pretty bad at picking “value” stocks, as he somehow confused them with penny stocks that were being pumped and dumped, and Dayton bought at the high point of the pumping. The nice thing about the lottery ticket approach is that despite the Royals awesomeness at picking talent in the draft, every once in a while you come up with absolute studs like Greinke and Butler.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
these expensive lottery tickets
are not at all expensive when compared to the FA ‘stock’….we couldve signed 25 badass prospects in the draft and in LA for Jose Guillen…it’d be nearly impossible to not get 2-3 really good mlb players for that
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was specifically referring to Guillen as a penny stock
That had been “pumped” full of steroids, and we bought the hype when we shouldn’t have. The true “value” free agents would be players like Russell Branyan.
by AxDxMx on Oct 24, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
When I was in Germany I was blown away by the number of people who wore Yankees gear, only to never have even seen a single pitch of baseball, but on the flip side, no one wore Mets stuff, they aren’t famous because they are in New York (that only helps), they are famous because they represent the best.
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by averagegatsby on Oct 24, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been thinking about this for some time
and I’ve reached the conclusion that a worldwide draft might actually hurt small-market teams more than it helps, although it would be a major boon to foreign players.
Right now, you might have bidding wars over top Caribbean talent, but they still sign for far, far less than Strasburg got, you know? But there’s no way you’re going to draft some 16-year-old Dominican #1 in the draft and not pay $10M for the privilege at this point, if they’re represented well.
On the other hand, those kids might be desperate enough for money to sign for less, ‘cause you know a couple million goes a long way in San Pedro de Macoris. However, that would in turn drastically lower the bonus levels across the entire draft structure. Awesome, right? Except the problem there is that this has its downside as well, because it tilts leverage back in favor of US high-schoolers, underclassmen, and multi-sport athletes. It’s easier for them to leave less money on the table, after all.
So ultimately, a worldwide draft would either (1) increase overall spending across the board by increasing the monetary value of what is now “cheap” labor, (2) lead to further leaching of US talent to other sports and reduce the number of US players who get into the professional system before they’re 22, and/or (3) completely destroy any hope of settling on a graduated bonus structure, which is something Selig desperately desires and will thus do anything to prevent.
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by jonfmorse on Oct 24, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can see no way that an international draft and/or hard draft slotting helps the 'new' royals..
and i think that puts me in the minority
i’d rather have to pass on a porcello or wieters once in awhile due to signability if that means we can sign 2-3 top talents later on in the draft along with our 1st round talent.
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 24, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand where you're going with this...
….but, there’s just no way I could ever “root” for the Yankees.
Let’s make this a fall back position if the Yankees win. I’ll be rooting against that outcome however.
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by aHorseWithNoName on Oct 23, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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