UZR/150 for Royals SSs in 2009
- Luis Hernandez: 8.6
- Mike Aviles: -12.7
- Tony Pena Jr: -14.6
- Willie Bloomquist: -17.6
- Yuniesky Betancourt: -28.6
about 2 years ago
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Have been money and WAR ahead playing TPJJ?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
Please refer to insanity wolf:
When you have the worst everyday shortstop in baseball, trade for the 2nd worst. (That’s called an upgrade!)
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Nov 10, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And Make Sure
You’re locked in for 2 years.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Nov 10, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
His lack of hitting hurt his glove
His confidence was just trounced. I feel for the guy, but mostly I’m mad that they kept running him out there…
That's because he wasn't a wizard.
I don’t know what people saw out there, but TPJ looked like Derek Jeter could beat him except for the occasional play that TPJ would get to up the middle that was crazy.
His stats last year were wacked
I am working on the UZR projections for next year and he is the 4th highest rated SS in the game behind Evertt, Hardy and Vizquel.
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by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 10, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch,my eyes hurt
I wonder how that rates historically
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wow had no idea yuni was that bad
i didnt think he did to bad with the stick but wow those stats tell different story… this might make me an official yuni/dayton hater now
yeah, it's too bad none of us saw this coming
(ahem)
Oh well, but at least Dayton showed up when it came to Jacobs
(um)
and Bloomquist
(wait a minute)
wow, it’s almost as if he’s one of the worst GMs in baseball. Your move, Omar.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
A sight to ease
the pain that Yuni’s UZR rating causes, that’s for sure.
What it has to do with Omar Minaya, I have no idea.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Is that what happens when you hotlink something you shouldn't?
I’m not complaining, but I don’t get how it’s connected to Omar. :)
saw it/her on South Side Sox
they were using it to ease pain as well
although I guess there’s an omar connection somewhere, maybe through Steve Philips
Her JAR is incredible!
Her Jiggles Above Replacement are running at 20.2!
Of course, I shouldn’t trust just what the stats say about her, I should scout her out in person.
you can only know what you talk about if you watch her day after day
by Freneau on Nov 10, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thanks for making me feel incredibly shallow first thing in the morning
the thing with her lips is also incredibly sexy to me for some reason
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, worse projected defensive SS going into next year.
Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.
by Jeff Zimmerman on Nov 10, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
i thought this was a tpj/yuni combine for gold glove post
where's ross gload to explode the process?
Yuni, is that you?
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Nov 10, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
My problem with this is sample size
While I am not arguing these players’ defensive worthiness one way or the other, I do think we need to be careful putting too much stock in approximately the same sample size that brought you a Bloomquist 1.000+ OPS earlier this year.
Turning Kool-Aid to Jesus Juice since 2009.
except that
Yuni’s stats elsewhere reflect something roughly the same, and so the scouting reports.
Scouting reports not made by Royals scouts, of course
I feel pretty comfortable saying he’s worthless as a player.
Might be an improvement as a GM, though.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Figured out the process
If you add the numbers up, they’re horrible.
If you multiply the negative numbers though, it results an awesomely positive number!!!
Unless I'm wrong...
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I'd guess Aviles is better
Between the injury, small sample size, etc. I imagine given a full, healthy year he’d put up a neutral or positive UZR.
On the other hand I wonder if Luis Hernandez is really able to consistently put up a positive UZR over a full season. If so, he would have been a far better and cheaper option than Yuni.
My guess
is that Aviles isn’t as bad as last season, but that’s he’s still a bit below average.
Hernandez is probably the same or slightly better than Aviles defensively.
Aviles isn’t a good hitter, but he’s probably okay for an SS. He’s also a really good baserunner. He’d be a decent stopgap.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 10, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly I never understood why people were down on Aviles
He always seemed to have average range, an average arm, but really good instincts for positioning and that Derek Jeter-esque penchant for not botching easy plays.
His accuracy could use improvement, but I just don’t see why people are always down on him.
Is he as good as his 31.6 UZR/150 last year? probably not, but I really think hes probably a +10 player at SS.
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I dunno
really really small sample both season, and prior to his time in the majors, scouts didn’t think he could stick at SS. Even in 2008 the Fans had him as a bit below-average at SS.
Jeter may not seem to botch many plays, but we’re talking about a guy who made massive strides the last couple seasons and whose true talent is (at best) still probably an average SS.
Subjectively, as great as Avilanche was in 2008, by almost all accounts he just looked horrible in the field and at the plate in 2009. It’s hard to say how much of that was nursing an injury, but still…
Don’t get me wrong, I like Aviles, too, and think he should start for the Royals next season. But +10 at SS? Jimmy Rollins probably isn’t a +10 SS anymore, and I feel pretty comfortable saying he’s clearly better on defense than Aviles.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Forget about Aviles...
Dayton ain’t havin’ any. Just like Kila and Disco and etc. If he didn’t see it with his infallible scouting eye, it doesn’t exist. Those guys are toast in our organization. Dayton has no imagination or balls.
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