Royals Top 30 Prospects: #30-25
Here we are: the Top 30. I plan to go through them 6 at a time and then do a wrap up/overview of the Royals system. Since we are doing only 6 at a time, I'm able to squeeze in some previous years' stats as well as a few pictures. I'll go a little more in depth for my comments.
Disco Hayes via royals.mlblogs.com
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| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | PA | AB | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 19 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | Rook-A | 396 | 360 | 20 | 3 | 2 | 45 | 0 | 2 | 25 | 40 | .267 | .313 | .356 | .669 |
| 2009 | 19 | Idaho Falls | PION | Rook | 259 | 233 | 14 | 3 | 2 | 38 | 0 | 1 | 19 | 25 | .309 | .357 | .421 | .777 |
| 2009 | 19 | Burlington | MIDW | A | 137 | 127 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 15 | .189 | .230 | .236 | .466 |
| 3 Seasons | 590 | 529 | 26 | 5 | 3 | 71 | 1 | 4 | 37 | 60 | .278 | .329 | .363 | .692 | ||||
The Royals signed Perez out of Venezuela in 2006. He got about 100 ABs in the Arizona Rookie League in 2007 where he struggled with an 599 OPS. In 2008 he split time between Burlington, NC and Idaho Falls-- where he still got less than 100 ABs (due to injury, I believe) but he posted a healthy 891 OPS. Last year, he began the season at Low-A Burlington, Iowa where he predictably struggled (he was only 18 when the season began). But when Idaho Falls began their season, he was moved there where he put up respectable numbers. Perez has grown into a big kid (he's 6' 3') but the limited reports I've heard on his defense have been good. Perez has decent power and is willing to take a walk. With Will Myers in the fold, where he starts 2010 is a little murky--I"m still guessing he goes to Burlington, Iowa where he will probably struggle some (especially early in the season) but I think Perez has a chance to be an above average catcher in the big leagues.
29-Greg Holland-RHP--Age:23
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | ERA | G | SV | IP | WHIP | H/9 | HR/9 | BB/9 | SO/9 | SO/BB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 22 | Wilmington | CARL | A_adv | 3.42 | 32 | 4 | 84.1 | 1.245 | 7.5 | 0.4 | 3.7 | 10.2 | 2.74 |
| 2009 | 23 | Northwest Arkansas | TL | AA | 3.18 | 29 | 8 | 45.1 | 1.434 | 9.1 | 0.4 | 3.8 | 9.7 | 2.58 |
| 2009 | 23 | Omaha | PCL | AAA | 7.00 | 6 | 2 | 9.0 | 1.889 | 12.0 | 2.0 | 5.0 | 1.0 | 0.20 |
| 3 Seasons | 3.55 | 89 | 20 | 172.1 | 1.335 | 8.1 | 0.5 | 3.9 | 9.6 | 2.47 | ||||
Holland was drafted in the 10th Round of the 2007 out of Western Carolina. He was a successful college reliever who got a good amount of strikeouts and kept the ball in the park but also gave up a fair share of walks. After he was drafted the Royals sent him to Idaho Falls where he pitched well, posting an ERA in the mid 3s. In 2008, he skipped Low-A Burlington and went directly to Wilmington where he pitched 84 valuable innings. The test would be how he would do in the hitter friendly Texas League. What was encouraging to see was that the percentage of batters he K'd stayed the same, the HR rate stayed the same, the walk rate stayed the same (it wasn't great to begin with but at least it didn't go up), his GB% went up. He gave up more hits but that is due mainly to big spike in BABIP. He struggled in limited innings at AAA. I know his FB is a good pitch for him but I'm not familiar with his offspeed stuff. In 2010, he'll have a chance to prove himself and, if he does well, could be in KC later in the summer where he could be a valuable reliever.
28-Disco Hayes-RHP--Age:26
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | ERA | G | SV | IP | WHIP | H/9 | HR/9 | BB/9 | SO/9 | SO/BB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 25 | Northwest Arkansas | TL | AA | 1.64 | 40 | 12 | 65.2 | 0.944 | 6.7 | 0.5 | 1.8 | 5.3 | 3.00 |
| 2009 | 26 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | AAA-AA | 3.05 | 44 | 6 | 85.2 | 1.319 | 10.5 | 0.3 | 1.4 | 4.3 | 3.15 |
| 2009 | 26 | Northwest Arkansas | TL | AA | 0.98 | 18 | 3 | 36.2 | 1.064 | 8.1 | 0.2 | 1.5 | 4.2 | 2.83 |
| 2009 | 26 | Omaha | PCL | AAA | 4.59 | 26 | 3 | 49.0 | 1.510 | 12.3 | 0.4 | 1.3 | 4.4 | 3.43 |
| 5 Seasons | 2.65 | 199 | 45 | 329.2 | 1.192 | 8.9 | 0.3 | 1.9 | 5.8 | 3.13 | ||||
Most of you know the Chris "Disco" Hayes story--undrafted out of Northwestern in 2006 the Royals signed him as a free agent. He's called "Disco" because his sidearm/submarine fastball velocity stays in the 70s. He gets groundballs like crazy and has consistently posted FIPs in the mid to low 3s. Last year he got off to an amazing start at AA with a sub-1 ERA. He was pretty lucky. Then he was promoted to AAA where his ERA ballooned to 4.59. What changed? He was actually walking fewer people, K'ing the same amount, HR rate about the same, GB rate dropped but was still good-- it was BABIP: from 269 at AA to 367 at AAA. Look at his combined line for last year and that's just about right--everything pretty much evened out. So don't be down on Hayes because of his AAA ERA. He still looks like a good reliever for us if we are smart enough to hang onto him. He is going to need a good infield defense behind (cough-SS-cough) to succeed. He will probably start 2010 at AAA but if he pitches well, there is no reason he shouldn't be called up soon.
27-Patrick Keating--RHP--Age:22
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| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | ERA | G | SV | IP | WHIP | H/9 | HR/9 | BB/9 | SO/9 | SO/BB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 22 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | Rook-A_adv | KCR | 1.64 | 24 | 9 | 33.0 | 0.939 | 5.7 | 0.3 | 2.7 | 12.8 | 4.70 |
| 2009 | 22 | Wilmington | CARL | A_adv | KCR | 0.00 | 2 | 1 | 2.2 | 0.375 | 3.4 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 3.4 | |
| 2009 | 22 | Idaho Falls | PION | Rook | KCR | 1.78 | 22 | 8 | 30.1 | 0.989 | 5.9 | 0.3 | 3.0 | 13.6 | 4.60 |
| 1 Season | 1.64 | 24 | 9 | 33.0 | 0.939 | 5.7 | 0.3 | 2.7 | 12.8 | 4.70 | |||||
It's quite a feat for a 2009 20th Round draft choice to be this high on the list. And Keating was a true 20th Round pick, not some talented player who dropped due to bonus demands. In his Senior year at U. of Florida he had an ERA of over 5 and struck out about 6/9ip. Apparently the Royals thought they could refine his delivery, drafted him, and all the sudden he's throwing in the mid 90s with good breaking stuff. He was pretty much unhittable in Idaho Falls striking out over 13/9ip and also got a 56% ground ball %. The spike was so dramatic that its hard to know what his ceiling is--if his stuff stays that good, then you could be talking closer. I'm anxious to see how he does vs. more advanced hitters. He could start 2010 in the same place he ended 2009: Wilmington.
26-Tim Smith-OF--Age:23
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | Aff | PA | AB | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS | BB | SO | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 22 | Clinton | MIDW | A | TEX | 538 | 480 | 25 | 4 | 13 | 70 | 21 | 9 | 33 | 81 | .300 | .359 | .450 | .809 |
| 2009 | 23 | 3 Teams | 3 Lgs | AA-A_adv-Rook | TEX | 311 | 271 | 15 | 0 | 8 | 53 | 17 | 2 | 24 | 45 | .321 | .392 | .465 | .857 |
| 2009 | 23 | Bakersfield | CALL | A_adv | TEX | 138 | 120 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 19 | 7 | 1 | 10 | 20 | .333 | .413 | .475 | .888 |
| 2009 | 23 | Frisco | TL | AA | TEX | 160 | 139 | 9 | 0 | 3 | 32 | 8 | 1 | 14 | 21 | .309 | .380 | .439 | .819 |
| 3 Seasons | 945 | 832 | 45 | 4 | 22 | 132 | |||||||||||||
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Who not just continue labeling the series
“Top 60 Prospects”? Sure, you’re in the top 30 now, but it’s just a continuation.
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changed the format some
I didn’t want to keep listing the previous rankings, was going a little more in depth. if it bothers folks, I’ll change it back
Disco Hayes' best attribute
is his ability to get tons of sabermetric press while being accurately described by Gopherballs as having “right-handed Horatio Ramirez” potential. I hope that’s wrong, but the signs are there…
Tim Smith might have the DDJ upside on offense, but it seems like it will be a minor miracle if he’s even average defensively in LF.
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im glad we trade gutz for a guy with a mitch maier ceiling
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Nov 11, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair
it sounded, at the time, like pina was the key to the trade. that’s not to say that an all-defense catcher makes it even.
to have a chance at being useful
other than a minor league roster seat warmer/emergency plan, it looks like Pina had better be one of the best defensive catchers in baseball.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like Gutz
is already giving Texas shit. They told him he needed to work on a changeup and he told them he didn’t need one. I read this over at Lonestar Ball. Kid must really think highly of himself.
by gordonrules on Nov 11, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
doh
Horacio
don’t get me wrong, I want Hayes to succeed, and he does have some potential as a middle reliever. I just think the hype is disproportionate.
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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 11, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
crap
didn’t realize it had cut off Hayenga’s comment:
Keaton Hayenga was an intruguing HS draft prospect from the Northwest in 2007. During his Senior season he was diving into a base and tore his labrum. It looked like he would end up at college but the Royals ended up offering him $300k to sign knowing he would not be able to pitch until 2009. He ended up pitching 57 innings at Idaho Falls. He had a respectable 3.75 FIP but struck out less the 6 batters/9ip. That is puzzling because he has a low-mid 90s FB, good curve and a change that needs to develop. I’m not sure if they Royals were holding him back or having him work on something. Regardless he needs to strike more people out in 2010. Hayenga is 21 and hasn’t yet pitched in full season ball—that doesn’t mean he can’t be a good prospect it just means he has some catching up to do.
It cuts off even before that.
Like, in the middle of Smith’s stat spread, so your comment on Smith is missing as well.
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what is going on?
its eating my post—it keeps cutting it shorter and shorter
Uh-oh. The langoliers are attacking!
by hunter s. royal on Nov 11, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the powers that be need to fix the template
thanks for trying to help—I won’t be quite as ambitious in trying to add bells and whistles next time
Keaton Hayenga was #25 and is posted in the comment section above (in bold)
I will repost the Tim Smith comment—I’ll have to rewrite it, so give me a couple of days as things are kinda busy right now—but I’ll post it here in the comments.
awesome, thanks for all of the info.
I really enjoy reading these. And no rush, its a long offseason.
Tim Smith #26
Smith was traded (along with Manny Pina) for Dan Gutierrez in September. Gutierrez has a very good arm but has had multiple run ins with the law and the Royals. He probably would have ranked #12-14 on this list. He’s a high risk/high reward player and if he ever puts things together, the Royals will regret this trade. Smith was a 7th Round draft pick by the Rangers in 2007 out of Arizona State where he hit 345/457/463 as a junior. He’s a little like David Dejesus—both are left handed outfielders who can get on base but don’t have a ton of power (although Smith can’t play CF and isn’t the LF Dejesus is). In 2009, he hit well in his time in the Cal. League—but it is a bit time hitters league. He hit OK when moved up to AA. He has ability to get on base (due partially to the fact that he gets hit by a lot of pitches—-he really is like Dejesus). His ceiling is limited but hopefully he will suprise some people in AA/AAA. If he does well, he could see time with the big league club this summer.
i know this is your list, not mine
but i think gutierrez would be in the top ten, around six, if not higher, had he stayed with the team. he has his issues, but his issues aren’t with his performance. when he came back to the team this year, he did nothing but dominate.
Based purely on talent, I would probably have him #9
But I think his run ins with varying authorities could eventually affect his performance (some would say it already has—see 32IP this year). I dinged Jason Taylor for the same reason. It’s not that I have anything personally against him but I wonder about his ability to receive instruction.

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