Similarity Scores through 2009
by BHWick on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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Because it's amusing to figure out who is similar to who.
| Batters | is most similar to | or | In 2008, he was most similar to |
| Alberto Callaspo | Smoky Burgess | Don Slaught | |
| Alex Gordon | Howard Johnson | Darnell Coles | Joe Foy |
| Billy Butler | Kent Hrbek | John Olerud | Keith Hernandez |
| David DeJesus | Tony Gonzalez | Coco Crisp | Roy Weatherly |
| Jose Guillen | Kevin McReynolds | Joe Rudi | Kevin McReynolds |
| Mike Aviles | Tony Eusebio | John Baker | |
| Mike Jacobs | Andre Thornton | Fred Whitfield | Fred Whitfield |
| Willie Bloomquist | Don Ross | Bob Jones | Don Ross |
| Yuniesky Betancourt | Deivi Cruz | Lonny Frey | Aaron Hill |
Encouraging: Butler's comps (even if his current #1 means that he'll be hosting a fishing show after retiring at 34).
Discouraging: $12M for a Kevin McReynolds comp.
How about pitchers?
| Pitchers | is most similar to | or | Last year, he was most similar to |
| Zack Greinke | Ralph Terry | Ben Sheets | Ben Sheets |
| Brian Bannister | Shawn Boskie | Sean Bergman | Rodrigo Lopez |
| Luke Hochevar | Brian Rose | Chad Durbin | Seth Greisinger |
| Kyle Davies | Brian Meadows | Frank Rodriguez | Jamey Wright |
| Gil Meche | Todd Stottlemyre | Matt Clement | Jason Marquis |
| Joakim Soria | Rod Beck | Rawly Eastwick | Bruce Sutter |
| Kyle Farnsworth | Dan Miceli | Mike Trombley | Jay Witasick |
Brian Meadows was traded for Dan Miceli and Jay Witasick in under a year. Both Miceli and Witasick were Royals although Miceli was traded for Stan Belinda. Meadows also comped by age to Kyle Davies, Joe Mays, Albie Lopez, and former 2003 Omaha Royal James Baldwin in four separate years. Making Meadows the ultimate Robinson/Baird-era Royals pitcher.
So, what are the surprises and the signs of concern here?
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The fact that DDJ was comparable to Crisp...
leads me to believe Crisp isn’t terrible. Im still a firm believer that if Crisp can be signed to a reasonable contract (not sure what reasonable is exactly) that he may be worth taking a run at.
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Crisp wasn't terrible
and his BA would have come around eventually, if he wasn’t injured. If we can get him for a low cost 2-3M, incentive laden contract, I’d do it too. $5M though, probably not.
Im not sure he will sign for that low.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 12, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
and I agree about Crisp. Aside from his 12 year old girl of an arm that is.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 12, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
If he holds out for more, I think he'll have a long lonely offseason
Free Agents come here to die. If you actually signed with us, it’s because no one else wanted you usually.
You dont think he could get 5 million from somebody?
I think he is probably worth 5 million, but not a penny more. I mean if Jakers commands 4ish Million in arbitration (and I realize this is a weak argument) then Crisp is worth at least 1 million more.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 12, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
He did just have surgery on BOTH shoulders
and he threw like a 12 year old girl to begin with. Does that hurt his hitting too? Lots of question marks around him. If someone gives him $5M they are being careless with their money.
Billy Butler's John Olerud comp is highly encouraging
Olerud was very underappreciated for the talents he had. If that’s Billy’s ceiling, I’m pretty happy with that, but I think he’s got 40 homer potential in him someday. With 25-35 being the norm.
I dont like Greinke being compared in any possible way to Ben Sheets.
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by averagegatsby on Nov 12, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
The comps break down at Greinke's level
It’s like asking who to compare Albert Pujols or Barry Bonds to without listing HOFers. Can’t be done!
Greinke's top 10 through 25
1. Ralph Terry (972)
2. Ben Sheets (963)
3. Burt Hooton (961)
4. Jose Rijo (961)
5. Jim Kaat (961)
6. Johnny Kucks (960)
7. Bill Monbouquette (960)
8. Ray Culp (958)
9. Art Mahaffey (958)
10. Tom Glavine (957)
remember, 2006 and 2007 screw with his overall comparisons
Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore
Greinke had some really bad years, give him a couple years.
especially if it looks at wins.
Jeff Zimmerman - Protecting the world from RBI's and Wins from my mom's guest house.
by Jeff Zimmerman (TucsonRoyal) on Nov 12, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Monbouquette Is A
Proverbial blast from my past. I hadn’t thought of him in years; one of my favorite names in pro sports.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Nov 12, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Jose Guillen = Kevin McReynolds
That’s just so perfect. (and not in a good way)
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
I thought the comps were interesting
until I saw the Yuni = Aaron Hill comp. That’s where they seem to break down.
*You think I'm good* "You know, that Farnsworth is pretty good." *You will give me 9 million dollars* "So, Farnsy, how does $9 million sound?"
by jackie ballgame on Nov 12, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions
My favorite part
Is that Callaspo’s comps both sound like porno actors’ names.
Smoky Burgess? Seriously? And Don Slaught. His catchphrase in each movie could be “Get ready for the Don-Slaught, baby.”
Honorable mention: Rawly Eastwick.
by Soria's Unibrow on Nov 18, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions
The problem with similarity scores
is that they account only for totals. Accounting for trend, Tom Glavine would be a much closer match, as he too lost 17 games in his second year and then won the Cy Young in his age 25 season.
by swing and a miss on Nov 18, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions
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