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Steve Kornacki defends his Cy Young pick. The brief article provides, in pertinent part:

"Verlander received my first-place vote because nobody was tougher on the mound with the season on the line for his team."

This seems like sound reasoning. I have always heard the Cy Young described as the award that goes to the toughest pitcher on the mound down the stretch with the season on the line.

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by AxDxMx on Nov 18, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Kornacki should just start a new award that only he gets to vote on

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He was an inspirational “horse,” using Tigers manager Jim Leyland’s term for him, on a fading team.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 18, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Clutch + tough + grit = Cy Young

It’s math, don’t fight it.

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by NYRoyal on Nov 18, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Science.

You can’t fade science.

by Dadunca on Nov 18, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Kornacki

Is he related to Karen? Maybe he’s still bitter toward the Royals for the Emil Brown incident.

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by SittinByTheFoulPole on Nov 18, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Brown-Kornacki

Didnt he spray her with a water gun or something and she flipped out? I always hated that sour puss face rug muncher. She annoys the hell out of me.

by KCG816 on Nov 18, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

I agree.

If he were worthy of the Cy Young he would have found a way to rally his teammates to the title even in those games when he wasn’t on the mound. [/sarcasm]

Just to be absolutely clear, once you admit to judging based in irrelevancies such as Kornacki’s why should one stop there? Why not make up whatever criteria one desires to justify giving the award to whomever one would like? Hell, why not give it to Matt Palmer for putting up an 10-2 record in 13 starts (less than half a season) for the Angels as the Nick Adenhart replacement after his terrible accident? Prorate that over the season and that’s a 20-4 record.

How could that possibly be ignored? How great was that? When the team had a huge hole – both in the roster and in its soul – Matt Plamer steps in and fills it. Imagine how the Angels season might have gone without that contribution. Just when they needed stability, Palmer provided it and carried them on his back through the terrible aftermath of the Adenhart’s death. What about that contribution from someone who wasn’t even supposed to be in the rotation. But does he get any Cy Young respect??

Kornacki’s a frickin’ idiot.

by Steve Nelson on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree that he

should have voted for Zack instead of Verlander. But, hey, he’s got a right to put`up a defense of his vote; he’s claiming that intangibles are more important than stats, basically.

I kind of think that we statheads should give a little more importance to intangibles; a guy’s attitude, for example, is not tangible, but is very important. (Cf: Guillén, José.) Look at Grudz, for example. Not only did he play pretty well according to the stats, but his red-ass attitude affected how the whole team played. I miss him. Another one: David Riske, whose helpful willingness to advise Zack had tremendous effects.

Besides, isn’t this guy from Michigan? It’s an obvious homer vote, and it’ll go over well with his local readers. He doesn’t care what the national press says; hell, he’s probably loving the publicity.

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by Juancho on Nov 19, 2009 6:39 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I can see using his argument for deciding

between Halladay, Verlander, and Sabathia for 3rd place.

I think the outrage expressed by the posters here comes from the fact that this was clearly a 2 horse race, with a fairly obvious choices for #1 and #2. That sentiment was reflected in the voting pattern.

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by loyal2sdad on Nov 19, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

but I do agree with Juancho to an extent

We may think and/or believe that Kornacki is an idiot for his logic, or lack thereof, but we don’t KNOW that he’s totally wrong.

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by benfunke on Nov 19, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

holy crap my comment got mangled by some unintentional formatting. a few asterisks in a row deleted my parenthetical note, which was:
(Then again, what is knowledge but a true, justified belief? — but that doesn’t really help my (or Juancho’s) point.)

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by benfunke on Nov 19, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not disagreeing with the overall sentiment that Kornacki is misguided, I’m just floating a little reminder that taking the absolute position in one direction is really no better than the absolute position in the other.

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by benfunke on Nov 19, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

But when the award does have an absolute definition that does not include his reasoning, that’s pretty solid grounds for putting yourself on the extreme other position. Eh… I don’t really care, his reasoning is flimsy but probably got him some love from the hometown fans.

by AxDxMx on Nov 20, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

there's a definition?

i thought it was “best pitcher in each league”, though maybe there is a more strict definition that i don’t know of

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by benfunke on Nov 20, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Best pitcher doesn’t really equate to toughest.

by AxDxMx on Nov 20, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Duensing for Cy Young!!!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 19, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

The last comment on that article is hilarious

He says that Zach (sic) Greinke is like Graham Harrell of Texas Tech, all stats and little else.

by NotAHippie on Nov 19, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

gotta admit that Greinke would destroy Big 12 hitters, though

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 19, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's that brilliant Royals system

by NotAHippie on Nov 19, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

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