"Royals going hard after Erik Bedard"

If true, then I don't get it...

I’ve heard mid-to-late 2010 as a full strength return date for him. Which would mean that he should really only be of use to teams in contention and needing an extra push down the stretch. That’s not going to be the 2010 Royals. Best case scenario, Bedard comes back from rehabbing the shoulder and helps to push our boys from 73 wins to 76. Totally worth it.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 24, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions

But

He did play for the Mariners, so it totally makes sense.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 24, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions

Right

But it would make even more sense if Wren signed him to a one year, incentive deal now, and then Dayton went nuts with a $68M for 6 deal in the 2010-11 offseason.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 24, 2009 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

sigh

It sounds funny until I think about it and cry a little :(

by sterlingice on Nov 25, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions

Bingo

Signing Bedard this offseason would be about as helpful as signing Ben Sheets last offseason.

by Gopherballs on Nov 25, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions

doesn't really bother me

depending on the terms. if we only pay him for production, then no harm, really. somebody’s got to pitch.

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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 24, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions

It depends on the contract, of course

But I still think whatever money is spent on him would be a waste for the Royals. Unless Dayton just wants to give Bedard a little taste of the glamorous KC lifestyle to suck him into a long term deal. Just like Cleveland does with all its free agents. Once you’ve been there, you never want to leave.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 24, 2009 11:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

If healthy, I would do this in a heartbeat.

That could be a strong rotation if we could find a decent #5 ( or Hochever, Davies, or Jorge step up).

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by royaldaddy on Nov 24, 2009 11:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions

A healthy Erik Bedard would be worth a lot at the trade deadline.

If it a low base salary, what is there to lose?

by KCBear on Nov 25, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions

Exactly, he's a nice trade chip if nothing else.

You saw what the O’s got for Bedard right? Oh wait, was that Jack Z’s predecessor? Well maybe we could flip him to the Mets. Not a bad gamble in my opinion, and if the team does somehow outperform all expectations (they can’t be worse than this year can they?), then we might have a decent #3 starter. And on an incentive laden contract, you can’t really go wrong. I wonder if we’ll pay him by the game, or by the pitch? :)

by AxDxMx on Nov 25, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions

If he's willing to go for a low base salary, then many contending teams would take him

In order for the Royals to land him, they’ll have to offer more guaranteed money than just about everyone else.

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by Scott McKinney on Nov 25, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions

I don't know about that

He’s kind of damaged goods at this point isn’t he?

by AxDxMx on Nov 25, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions

The Red Sox go crazy for this type of player

by Gopherballs on Nov 25, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions

Yes, he's damaged, talented goods

That means pretty much every team would like to have him for a low base salary with incentives based on how many games he can actually pitch or start. But some team(s) will likely be willing to take on the risk and offer him more guaranteed money than anyone else. If a small market team like the Royals does it, they are stupid. If a large market team like the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers, Cubs, etc. does it, then they are smart because their huge revenues make it easy for them to absorb the risk.

So, in my opinion, the Royals could only get Bedard, even as damaged goods, if they overbid a higher revenue team by giving Bedard even more guaranteed money. And that would be stupid.

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by Scott McKinney on Nov 25, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions

GMDM must be feeling like he found another Meche.

Get ready for it gentlemen.

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by Warden11 on Nov 25, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions

Well it is another Seattle pitcher

If only Bedard had started in the Braves organization it would be a lock.

by AxDxMx on Nov 25, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions

And that would be stupid.

Which means it could never happen

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by philofthenorth on Nov 25, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions

Not true at all

If you were right, then Orlando Hudson would never have signed here!!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 25, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions

Also,

If the Royals don’t trade him, but he plays well, he might qualify as a type B free agent, netting the Royals a draft pick.

by BrRoyal on Nov 25, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions

If I were Bedard I would probably think more favorably of KC now that changes have been made to the medical staff

Could we be getting a glimpse of the deeper part of The Process™? It’s not just signing every available former Mariner, but former Mariner pitchers with a history of arm injury are particularly critical.

Perhaps that was the underlying rationale for changing out the medical staff. Make the Royals as attractive as possible for sore-armed ex-Mariners and Braves, especially pitchers??

If you can’t compete with money, then have the best medical wraps in the industry. Dare I say – this is the classic band-aid approach to fixing a problem?

by Steve Nelson on Nov 25, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions

Speaking of the training staff,

does the last year and the absolute killing of Meche scare off a starter from signing here?

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by Warden11 on Nov 25, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions

This can be a great opportunity for Bedard and the Royals

Bedard signs a one-year incentive laden deal. He plays in a HUGE ballpark that will keep his numbers slightly lower than a bandbox. This equals more money and a he’s got it back type of hype. He demands a trade to a contender near the July trading deadline and lands us and Adam Jones-esque player. He then signs a big FA deal after his one-year deal is up where he wants to go.

This helps the Royals as we will win more games. Keep butts in the seats. Get a good haul for him if he leaves. And if he doesn’t leave and decides we’re heading the right direction, he might give us a legit look for a long term deal. That’s of course unlikely, but it’s always a possibility.

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by 306008 on Nov 25, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions

If that were his plan his best option would be to sign with the Mariners

… who would gladly take him back on a one-year low-base, incentive deal. Safeco Field itself is an ideal park for a LH pitcher (fly balls to LF absolutely die) and he reaps the benefits of one of the best defenses in baseball.

Other issues are that Bedard is probably not going to be recovered from surgery to start the season. It’s highly questionable that he would be able to get back in shape form by the trade deadline to generate interest as a possible front-end starter.

I’m not saying that acquiring Bedard would be a bad idea. Not at all. But there are probably at least 20 other teams that would also like to have Bedard on a one-year, low-base + incentives deal. He’s going to have a lot of similar offers to choose from. If he looks only for the highest guarantee, he’ll probably wind up somewhere on the East Coast unless Dayton decides to pull out the stops to sign him (a la Meche). And if the Royals did that, I’m sure they would want to do more than a one year deal.. But if Bedard wants to rebuild his stats for another contract push in 2011, there are probably better options for him than the Royals.

Plus he had almost two years of Betancourt not playing SS on his left side – does he really want to go back to that?? [/snark]

by Steve Nelson on Nov 25, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs