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Royals Review Community Prospect List: #5

Eric Hosmer gets the #4 position with 44% of the vote.  I figured it would be closer but Hosmer seemed to gradually pull away.

A couple of notes:  first, Kevin Goldstein at Baseball Prospectus will have the Royals as his next team for a top 15 prospect list.  The list itself is free and the comments are in the pay section.  I'm guessing the list will come out today or tomorrow.

Later this week, I'll have prospects #12-7 up.

As before, the choices are listed alphabetically and you can make your case in the comment section.

#1--Mike Montgomery--LHP--36%

#2--Mike Moustakas--3B--36%

#3--Aaron Crow--RHP--45%

#4--Eric Hosmer--1B--44%

Poll
Who is the Royals #5 Prospect?
Jeff Bianchi--SS
37 votes
Dan Duffy--LHP
112 votes
David Lough--OF
8 votes
Tim Melville--RHP
61 votes
Will Myers--C
171 votes
Other (specify in comments)
3 votes

392 votes | Poll has closed

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Myers?

What did he do to impress so many people? I’m not looking this up, so I’m probably dead wrong, but doesn’t he have just half a season of rookie ball under his belt? I like Bianchi here—he’s often shown offensive promise while playing solid defense at a premium position. Injuries had been holding him back, but he finally put together a breakout year, and while he’s not a top-flight prospect, he’s the only one on this list that has good upside but has also shown some level of success at the higher levels.

by kcdc1 on Nov 30, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In 80 PAs in Idaho Falls he hit

.426 .488 .735 with 4 homers and 9 walks. While it is a small sample, I don’t think anyone expected his bat to be that advanced coming out of high school. It may not represent his true ability, but it is something to be excited about. I mean, what are the odds that if he is terrible, that he could start like that? Also, he’s athletic enough to realistically be able to play any position on the diamond other than possibly CF and SS at the MLB level. Assuming he sticks at catcher, and brings a big bat, he should be a top 5 prospect in almost any team’s farm system..

I think Duffy deserved to be in Hosmer’s spot if not higher.

by AxDxMx on Nov 30, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

He’s the only player other than Montgomery who didn’t just play well for his level, like Bianchi, Parraz (when he was healthy), or Lough, he completely dominated his level. It’s rare for the Royals to have a prospect own the league they are in—we haven’t seen it for an extended period since Butler and Gordon in AA. While others would rate higher on a “more ready for the major leagues” list, the apples-to-oranges comparisons of the “best prospect” in a five-level minor league system means other factors, like “who looks like a complete stud right now,” are relevant.

Plus, if the question is what has he done in his minor league career to impress people, another answer is: “A heck of a lot more than Aaron Crow, a.k.a. #3 on this list”

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Dec 1, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At the midway point of last season, Duffy was getting pub as possibly the top prospect.

I’m shocked that he’s falling out of the top five. No, he hasn’t absolutely dominated, but he has performed at a high level for over 200 minor league innings. Myers has a nice looking bat but may not be able to stick behind the dish. Duffy is a possible left handed #2 starter who may be one good minor league season from a cup of coffee. Where’s the love?

by BrRoyal on Nov 30, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

make that two

Did people rave about Duffy all season?

Man, I sure hope Yuni doesn’t have a hot first 100 PAs next season, or people are going to want an extension

(winky face)

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

make that

Didn’t people rave about Duffy all season

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DF, you can make fun of us for drooling over Myers, but

that’s not just a hot 100 PAs, that’s off the charts. He showed plate discipline and power, and the guy is 18. How many players show that combination their first 100 professional PAs at any level? Maybe I’m just not used to seeing any prospects play well in the Royals heretofore godforsaken farm system.

by AxDxMx on Nov 30, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just havin' fun

it’s not biggie either way. It is exciting, I’d just like to see a bit more before we put him ahead guys like Duffy and Melville.

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know... I know...

You write for real at FanGraphs now, but at least you still come here for the snark!

The upside on all these players is tremendous. The only real downer is that Moose and Hos seem to be underperforming and their stock has dropped a bit. Montgomery, Duffy (built in nickname of Duff Man), Melville, Greinke (if he sticks around for a while) and Myers may very well form one of the most potent batteries seen around here in a long time. I’m dreaming of those 4 going 1,2,3,4 in the CYA voting, and Myers lapping the field for MVP due to the defensive adjustment for catchers, and his 40 homers!!

How’s that for homer-iffic optimism? It’s the offseason, and the absence of suckitude has made my mind start to dream of greatness.

by AxDxMx on Dec 1, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I picked Melville

He was widely considered to be one of the best, if not the best HS pitcher from his draft. And he had a fairly impressive first year of pro ball.

Myers looks great, but has less than 100 PAs. Bianchi and Lough don’t walk enough and each have a spotty track record. I like Duffy a lot – but I think his upside is more limited than Melville’s. I have Melville a hair better than Duffy.

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 30, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I picked Melville, too

…but could easily have gone with Duffy.

by kcemigre on Nov 30, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW...

…two people picked “other” but didn’t say who in the comments… ’fess up, people.

I really am curious who you might pick ahead of these guys. Kila? Lamb?

by kcemigre on Nov 30, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vance Wilson

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 30, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DISCO HAYES!

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by RoyalsRetro on Nov 30, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG Chris and his wife are SO CUTE together

Prediction: Their “fame” spins off into a national column by his wife, who leaves him when his hairline reaches an unacceptable status.

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still going with Bianchi

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Nov 30, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is what i wrote about him in my top 30 list

The Royals found themselves a very special player in the third round of the 2009 amateur draft. Myers had been projected as the 12th best prospect in the draft but fell due to a commitment to the University of South Carolina. He has a lightning quick bat and immense power potential. At 6’3" his body is still developing. He is also a very good athlete playing all over the diamond – catcher, shortstop, and center field. He was also a successful pitcher. He throws 91 and that arm carries over behind the dish. If he stays at catcher his time table might be a bit slower due to the needed development for a catcher. If he moves to center field, he could debut by 2012. He also has above average speed and his overall toolset probably excites me more than any other offensive player in the system. Myers actually might be the most exciting complete player to come through the system in the last 12 years. In 84 at-bats in his first professional season, he hit .369 with five home runs, a .427 on-base percentage and a 1.106 OPS.

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by gashousegang on Nov 30, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know there was some speculation that Myers might go 12th overall the Royals

but I do not recall anyone listing Myers as the 12th best prospect in the draft. BA and BP both ranked him in the 30s as a supplemental first round talent.

by Gopherballs on Nov 30, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I remember the pick being viewed as a reach when talked about in the mock drafts and such

But the baseball draft is such a crapshoot, if you have convictions about a player, you could be right and everyone else wrong. In this case, I think it may have been scouts cooling on him due to the college commitment, so he became a fringe first rounder due to the risk involved.

by AxDxMx on Nov 30, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The BA and BP lists make the point that their rankings are based purely on talent, not projected draft slot or signability

There is a difference in projecting when a prospect will be picked and in projecting his talent level. Myers was certainly a well-regarded prospect when drafted, but I think it is a stretch to say that he was viewed as a top 15 talent at the time of the draft.

by Gopherballs on Nov 30, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I went with Melville

he has good upside, and is more projectable.
Myers has astonishing upside, but his development has a long way to go, and a lot that could go wrong. Love the kid, but not too confident in the system.

Tangled up in Plaid

by McClure 'stache on Nov 30, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BTW where is Lane Adams in your list?

Probably 50-75?
He has my interest, probably just because I’m a Missouri State basketball fan

Tangled up in Plaid

by McClure 'stache on Nov 30, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm a culprit of voting for Myer

to me, he’s got the upside of a decent catcher who can actually hit, which i value more than:
a SS whose ceiling seems to be ‘average player’ – average bat w/subpar defense;
an OF whose ceiling could be above average, but even this is mostly based on one season;
two pitchers who look good but aren’t as hard to find as a top-notch catcher (but come closest, IMO).

Blank

by benfunke on Nov 30, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Rowdy Hardy isn't in the next poll

I’m going to open up a bag of freak on everyone

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and where the f--- is Paulo Orlando?

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by Matt Klaassen on Nov 30, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

tehehe

"I'll take some Coco with that please"

by RoyalJHWKR on Dec 1, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you can't beat them ...

I went with Myers. I still think that Duffy belongs on the list before Crow and Hosey. Enough said. I was impressed by Myers season at Idaho Falls. He is just out of high school playing against mostly college age guys and he not only held is on but he dominated. At 6’3" and still growing he has the size and ability to play several positions unlike Mous who seems to be on the Billy Butler belly diet. I think he deserves the #5 ranking.

by grudz96 on Dec 2, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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