Conflicting Reports: Teahen Trade May or May Not Be Completed
by Freneau on Nov 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST
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PrintThe Mark Teahen Era, one marked by so many trade rumors and so much uncertainty about Teahen's role on the team at any given moment, may be heading towards a fitting end: nobody seems to know what is going on.
The Chicago Sun Times offers a straightforward report that the trade has been made, while the Kansas City Star and the Chicago Tribune are less certain. Other connected folks appear to be treating the trade as a done deal, citing the usual Royal paranoia and suggesting that all that we're seeing now is a last minute attempt to figure out who leaked this news. (Why this would be a bad thing isn't clear.)
The other piece here is the earlier rumors of a Red Sox trade, with which we began the day. This afternoon, the Red Sox acquired RF Jeremy Hermida, which you would think was probably not entirely unrelated to earlier talks.
- White Sox acquire Teahen from Royals :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Sports
- Reports of Royals trading Teahen to the White Sox appear to be premature - KansasCity.com
- Questions surround White Sox's acquisition of Teahen - Chicago Breaking Sports
- RosenBlog: Sox make a deal (maybe), Yanks make history, Cubs make the usual bad news
- Red Sox Acquire Jeremy Hermida: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
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The only thing this could mean...
is that the trade is actually Teahen for Podsednick and Fields.
This space for rent.
any new developments?
I suspect this trade will go down… just waiting on physicals.
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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 5, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Also heard that Teahen heard about the trade from the media
denial could be a way to save face — “no, no, no, we hadn’t completed the trade yet – that’s why you hadn’t gotten a call yet”
or, it could just be another “absolute lie” by the sports media
Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed
Might still be some wrangling still going on over what else the Royals give up
like some cash to cover the difference in salaries and/or a prospect
Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed
Or which ineffective reliever
Kenny Williams needs for his “2005 Royals bullpen” collection.
Do we still have Steve Stemle somewhere in the system?
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Kenny seems to like the hard thowers
maybe there’s a way to get him to take Farnsworth
Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed
I can only pray
In fact, I did so in the prior, very long thread.
Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!
Trader's remorse
Dayton cried to Kenny that he made a huge mistake and begged him to give him Teahen back
Ive made a huge mistake
This space for rent.
by averagegatsby on Nov 5, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Clus·ter·fuck (n.)
Any baseball transaction in which the Kansas City Royals are involved.
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by awolfson on Nov 5, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Since we have not received...
an Official Dayton Moore “Absolute Lies!!” Statement, then I assume that this trade is only hung up on a technicality or two (i.e. Getz physical, confirming a replacement host for “The Mark Teahen Show,” etc.).
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
How about a segment were Fields throws fly patterns to fans
Wee Willie could play defense, and everyone would compare him to “Rudy”
Duffy*, Montgomery*, and Melville* for Willy Taveras and Paul Janish
*currency of baseball
by McClure 'stache on Nov 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
link?
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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 5, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
OT
I’m getting no end of delight about the rumors that Tim Lincecum was busted for non-performance enhancing drugs. It was the “duh” story of the week (tho driving with it, not so good)
This is proof that Lincecum shouldn't win the Cy Young
And it should be Carp or Whinewright.
Love,
A Cardinals fan
Dude's getting high and he's one of the best pitchers in the game?!?
He deserves the Cy even more after that.
hippie lettuce
Love it! How have I never heard of that before?
StonewallPDS
by StonewallPDS on Nov 6, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I know- that's what has me tickled
Anyone really surprised? And isn’t it great to have a fairly harmless baseball drug story that’s more amusing than anything?
Was this in California?
If yes, I’m definitely more shocked that he was even ticketed for possession there than the fact that he had it with him.
I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Hmm, not a whole lot different from California.
Although not sure it’s “legal” there.
I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Best quote from the SF area press
“A free spirit who wears his skater-boy knit cap even in formal surroundings, Lincecum has a reputation among teammates as someone who likes to have a good time away from the field.”
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
From my experience with riding with somebody who's driving high
Safest driver ever! Driving the speed limit minus 5 mph the whole way from Salina to KC
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo
by playingwithfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
I had a different experience as a teenager
I was the one not smoking up, and the 2 guys in front, including the driver, were very reckless and barely paid attention to the road. We were coming back from a golf tournament, and I was pissed.
Anything new break overnight?
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
The hold up could be prospects...
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1868234,CST-SPT-sox06.article
That scares me a little.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder what prospects we are getting....wait...
Dammit, it’s probably the other way around.
I'm gonna go all BHWick on this trade if we give up prospects
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'm betting Jason Taylor
1. not known as a good boy
2. gets on base
That wouldn't break my heart
His various problems have left him way behind developmentally (2006 draftee who still hasn’t reached high A).
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
That's what the lack of secrecy gets ya
Kenny found out Royals fans actually liked the deal and figured something has to be wrong: “I thought I was getting rid of a malcontent and one of 17 spare 2B for a useful utility player with gap-hitting ability, but KC media and fans don’t seem to believe I took advantage of Moore. I must now ask for more until KC fans are angry again.”
I’m sure Dayton and the media will blame the inclusion of prospects on the media and fans when this deal is complete: “We were only giving up Teahen, but then you all started reporting it, and that’s why we had to throw in Montgomery.”
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions
Not "Dayton and the media"
Just “Dayton”
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
mlbrtaderumons says the deal is finalized
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/royals-agree-to-trade-mark-teahen-to-white-sox.html
just what we thought, teahen for getz and fields… but now we added “plus cash”
phew… no prospects
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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 6, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions
how much cash?
if we end up trading $3 million for these two players then it’s a pretty pointless deal IMO…the main attraction is getting salary flexibility, not necessarily the players (other than the possible upside).
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by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 6, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
here's the press release:
press release
just says “cash considerations”… no mention of a $ amount
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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 6, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
If we are not offloading the massive majority of Teahen's salary here
Then this is just another completely pointless move.
Two cheap and crappy players for one expensive crappy player is a good deal. Two cheap crappy players while paying an expensive one to play for someone else really isn’t.
I agree it is pointless to give them money
Especially when we could have paid ZERO and nontendered Teahen. Oh well. I’ll wait and see before I judge it I guess.
Check this out:
Jacobs career vs RHP: .830
Fields career vs LHP: .937
That would be a sweet platoon DH, if used appropriately. Not worth the money, probably, but collectively better than anything else we’ve got, save maybe Billy Butler.
Key phrases: “if used appropriately” and “not worth the money”
"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"
Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split
Those are OPSes, obviously
but wasn’t made clear
"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"
Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split
You know
If that’s the thinking here, I’m almost ok with holding onto Jacobs. It’s still a lot of money and lack of roster flexibility sunk into DH, but that’s one hell of a competent hitter, particularly by our standards.
I think I'd be OK with that
if Callaspo stayed at 2B and Getz were super-utility.
However, I don’t think Jacobs will be back, so this is probably just a thought experiment.
"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"
Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split
You're also forgetting about poor Willie and JoGui
They’ve gotta have somewhere to play, too!! At least that’s what their moms said when they called Dayton all upset about this trade.
I suppose Getz and Bloomquist could be dual super-utilities, with JoGui and his statuesque defense in RF for most starts. It wouldn’t be the first time that the Royals decided to populate the roster with a bench full of super-utilities.
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Since Willie starts at Super Utility
Getz becomes the backup Super Utility.
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
So the depth chart at Super-Utility for 2010
should look something like this:
1. Bloomquist
2. Getz
3. Hulett
4. Anderson
5. Hernandez
6. Lisson
7. Trey
8. Dayton
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie
by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 6, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
9. Johnny Depp
Since he's so awesome and versatile and can play anything
by NotAHippie on Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think Getz takes over at Second
Callaspo is too big of a defensive liability at 2B
Apparently he’s played better at 3rd. This might be a spring training decision between him and Gordon. Could Callaspo or Gordon play right field? We are still missing a right fielder. Guillen can’t do it. I think Maier leaves a lot of room for offensive improvement.
Hit in more than you let in.
Callaspo pulled it off this year, why not give him the chance to do it again next year?
I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Errors are a poor way to judge a fielder
That being said, in this case I think the errors agree with other assessments.
and he was still more valuable than all but ONE offensive player.
I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
Noone has mentioned that
last year Callaspo was playing the outfield in Winter ball. I believe the reports on him were ok. I could see him moving out there.
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