Conflicting Reports: Teahen Trade May or May Not Be Completed

by royalsreview on Nov 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST in News Comment 69 comments

The Mark Teahen Era, one marked by so many trade rumors and so much uncertainty about Teahen's role on the team at any given moment, may be heading towards a fitting end: nobody seems to know what is going on.

The Chicago Sun Times offers a straightforward report that the trade has been made, while the Kansas City Star and the Chicago Tribune are less certain. Other connected folks appear to be treating the trade as a done deal, citing the usual Royal paranoia and suggesting that all that we're seeing now is a last minute attempt to figure out who leaked this news. (Why this would be a bad thing isn't clear.)

The other piece here is the earlier rumors of a Red Sox trade, with which we began the day. This afternoon, the Red Sox acquired RF Jeremy Hermida, which you would think was probably not entirely unrelated to earlier talks.

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The only thing this could mean...

is that the trade is actually Teahen for Podsednick and Fields.

This space for rent.

by averagegatsby on Nov 5, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

via twitter... i was told that a physical on Getz is pending

by royalsreview on Nov 5, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

any new developments?

I suspect this trade will go down… just waiting on physicals.

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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 5, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also heard that Teahen heard about the trade from the media

denial could be a way to save face — “no, no, no, we hadn’t completed the trade yet – that’s why you hadn’t gotten a call yet”

or, it could just be another “absolute lie” by the sports media

Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed

by Top Ramen on Nov 5, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Soren Petro broke it to him

In a text message apparantly

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Nov 5, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yes, this

also, they may be working on another deal and want to preserve some leverage

by royalsreview on Nov 6, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Might still be some wrangling still going on over what else the Royals give up

like some cash to cover the difference in salaries and/or a prospect

Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed

by Top Ramen on Nov 6, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or which ineffective reliever

Kenny Williams needs for his “2005 Royals bullpen” collection.

Do we still have Steve Stemle somewhere in the system?

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Nov 6, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kenny seems to like the hard thowers

maybe there’s a way to get him to take Farnsworth

Unless I'm wrong...
My Twitter feed

by Top Ramen on Nov 6, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can only pray

In fact, I did so in the prior, very long thread.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Nov 6, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Trader's remorse

Dayton cried to Kenny that he made a huge mistake and begged him to give him Teahen back

by wildthang on Nov 5, 2009 5:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ive made a huge mistake

This space for rent.

by averagegatsby on Nov 5, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

hah

never too much Job

by AtTheWall on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Clus·ter·fuck (n.)

Any baseball transaction in which the Kansas City Royals are involved.

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by awolfson on Nov 5, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Since we have not received...

an Official Dayton Moore “Absolute Lies!!” Statement, then I assume that this trade is only hung up on a technicality or two (i.e. Getz physical, confirming a replacement host for “The Mark Teahen Show,” etc.).

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

How about a segment were Fields throws fly patterns to fans

Wee Willie could play defense, and everyone would compare him to “Rudy”

Duffy*, Montgomery*, and Melville* for Willy Taveras and Paul Janish
*currency of baseball

by McClure 'stache on Nov 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

KC Fox confirmed its done

good trade

by GobbleforCyoung on Nov 5, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

link?

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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 5, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

OT

I’m getting no end of delight about the rumors that Tim Lincecum was busted for non-performance enhancing drugs. It was the “duh” story of the week (tho driving with it, not so good)

by sterlingice on Nov 5, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is proof that Lincecum shouldn't win the Cy Young

And it should be Carp or Whinewright.

Love,

A Cardinals fan

by NotAHippie on Nov 5, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dude's getting high and he's one of the best pitchers in the game?!?

He deserves the Cy even more after that.

by AxDxMx on Nov 6, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hippie lettuce

Love it! How have I never heard of that before?

StonewallPDS

by StonewallPDS on Nov 6, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Fergie Jenkins

baby.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Nov 6, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Looks like he was busted wih the hippee lettuce

Yeah, knock me over with a feather. I

by Olentangy on Nov 5, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am now a larger fan of Tim's than I was prior to reading this sentence

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Nov 5, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I know- that's what has me tickled

Anyone really surprised? And isn’t it great to have a fairly harmless baseball drug story that’s more amusing than anything?

by sterlingice on Nov 5, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Was this in California?

If yes, I’m definitely more shocked that he was even ticketed for possession there than the fact that he had it with him.

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Nov 6, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

washington i believe

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm, not a whole lot different from California.

Although not sure it’s “legal” there.

I used to work with an old man that told me. Son, every workplace has a dumbass, if you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Nov 6, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Best quote from the SF area press

“A free spirit who wears his skater-boy knit cap even in formal surroundings, Lincecum has a reputation among teammates as someone who likes to have a good time away from the field.”

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

From my experience with riding with somebody who's driving high

Safest driver ever! Driving the speed limit minus 5 mph the whole way from Salina to KC

Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo

by playingwithfire on Nov 7, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I had a different experience as a teenager

I was the one not smoking up, and the 2 guys in front, including the driver, were very reckless and barely paid attention to the road. We were coming back from a golf tournament, and I was pissed.

by AxDxMx on Nov 7, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Anything new break overnight?

Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.

by 306008 on Nov 6, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

not that i've seen thus far

by royalsreview on Nov 6, 2009 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i need to

get some closure on this

by AtTheWall on Nov 6, 2009 9:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

The hold up could be prospects...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1868234,CST-SPT-sox06.article

That scares me a little.

by kcbottom9th on Nov 6, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Say it ain't so

by NotAHippie on Nov 6, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is not a good develpment

by nwroyal on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder what prospects we are getting....wait...

Dammit, it’s probably the other way around.

by Matty486 on Nov 6, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm gonna go all BHWick on this trade if we give up prospects

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Goodbye Danny Duffy

We hardly knew ya.

by Dadunca on Nov 6, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm betting Jason Taylor

1. not known as a good boy
2. gets on base

by nwroyal on Nov 6, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That wouldn't break my heart

His various problems have left him way behind developmentally (2006 draftee who still hasn’t reached high A).

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's what the lack of secrecy gets ya

Kenny found out Royals fans actually liked the deal and figured something has to be wrong: “I thought I was getting rid of a malcontent and one of 17 spare 2B for a useful utility player with gap-hitting ability, but KC media and fans don’t seem to believe I took advantage of Moore. I must now ask for more until KC fans are angry again.”

I’m sure Dayton and the media will blame the inclusion of prospects on the media and fans when this deal is complete: “We were only giving up Teahen, but then you all started reporting it, and that’s why we had to throw in Montgomery.”

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not "Dayton and the media"

Just “Dayton”

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dayton, you can always say no.

by AxDxMx on Nov 6, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

mlbrtaderumons says the deal is finalized

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/11/royals-agree-to-trade-mark-teahen-to-white-sox.html

just what we thought, teahen for getz and fields… but now we added “plus cash”

phew… no prospects

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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 6, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

how much cash?

if we end up trading $3 million for these two players then it’s a pretty pointless deal IMO…the main attraction is getting salary flexibility, not necessarily the players (other than the possible upside).

"He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it felt...he lives vicariously...through himself- He is the most interesting man in the world"

by Home Run Tony Cogan on Nov 6, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

here's the press release:

press release
just says “cash considerations”… no mention of a $ amount

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by CollininCalifornia on Nov 6, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i'd put the break even point at us giving them about $2 million

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Nov 6, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

$1M

http://twitter.com/Royals_Report/status/5489588287

by RoyallyJeff on Nov 6, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we are not offloading the massive majority of Teahen's salary here

Then this is just another completely pointless move.

Two cheap and crappy players for one expensive crappy player is a good deal. Two cheap crappy players while paying an expensive one to play for someone else really isn’t.

by kcbottom9th on Nov 6, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I agree it is pointless to give them money

Especially when we could have paid ZERO and nontendered Teahen. Oh well. I’ll wait and see before I judge it I guess.

by AxDxMx on Nov 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yea...the $2 million pushes this to lame

by royalsreview on Nov 6, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Check this out:

Jacobs career vs RHP: .830
Fields career vs LHP: .937

That would be a sweet platoon DH, if used appropriately. Not worth the money, probably, but collectively better than anything else we’ve got, save maybe Billy Butler.

Key phrases: “if used appropriately” and “not worth the money”

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Nov 6, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Those are OPSes, obviously

but wasn’t made clear

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Nov 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You know

If that’s the thinking here, I’m almost ok with holding onto Jacobs. It’s still a lot of money and lack of roster flexibility sunk into DH, but that’s one hell of a competent hitter, particularly by our standards.

by sterlingice on Nov 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think I'd be OK with that

if Callaspo stayed at 2B and Getz were super-utility.

However, I don’t think Jacobs will be back, so this is probably just a thought experiment.

"You know what, I mean I cried in bed for a while, moaning 'Why!? Why did this have to happen?'"

Zack Greinke on the Brad Pitt - Jennifer Aniston split

by DCRoyals on Nov 6, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You're also forgetting about poor Willie and JoGui

They’ve gotta have somewhere to play, too!! At least that’s what their moms said when they called Dayton all upset about this trade.

I suppose Getz and Bloomquist could be dual super-utilities, with JoGui and his statuesque defense in RF for most starts. It wouldn’t be the first time that the Royals decided to populate the roster with a bench full of super-utilities.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Since Willie starts at Super Utility

Getz becomes the backup Super Utility.

If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."

by CentralChamps2009 on Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So the depth chart at Super-Utility for 2010

should look something like this:

1. Bloomquist
2. Getz
3. Hulett
4. Anderson
5. Hernandez
6. Lisson
7. Trey
8. Dayton

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on Nov 6, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

9. Johnny Depp

Since he's so awesome and versatile and can play anything

by NotAHippie on Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

I think Getz takes over at Second

Callaspo is too big of a defensive liability at 2B

Apparently he’s played better at 3rd. This might be a spring training decision between him and Gordon. Could Callaspo or Gordon play right field? We are still missing a right fielder. Guillen can’t do it. I think Maier leaves a lot of room for offensive improvement.

by AlanSimpson on Nov 6, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs