Sunday Night Links: Kendall, Garko, & More
by Will McDonald on Dec 13, 2009 5:23 PM EST
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- Jason Kendall Signs - Royals Authority
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- …and the Jason Kendall Era Begins in KC | FanGraphs Baseball
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I have mixed feelings on the Turner Gill signing
On the one hand, I’m sad because I think he’ll be a pretty good hire for Kansas. On the other, I like it because as a former Cornhusker now coaching the Jayhawks, he might just surpass Bob Stoops as the coach I most love to hate. Gill has some morbidly obese shoes to fill in that area, but he’s already well on his way.
by Soria's Unibrow on Dec 13, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions
I'm an OU and a Stoops fan
but between the turkey neck and the sunblocker thing I hate so much (maybe because I associate it with Spurrier), I can understand the feelings about Stoops
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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 13, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
He Won At
Buffalo. No, really, he won at Buffalo.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Dec 13, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea, his resume is pretty underwhelming
I am impressed with the assistant coaches he’s bringing on – Chuck Long and Carl Torbush
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 14, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
because this can never be posted enough.....
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Dec 13, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What's that orange guy doing with the mascot of the Kool-Aid Bowl?
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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 13, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
OH-YEA!!!!!!!!
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 14, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
As a HUGE KSU fan
I am VERY happy to see Turner Gill go to KU
I don’t expect him to be there as long as Bill Snyder will be @ KSU. Hearing some of the talk about this guy…he is so uber-religious, I think that wont go over too well at a a major public institution like KU To clarify, It’s not the being religious that won’t go over, it is the apparently extreme way that he pushes his beliefs on others
BOOM! ROASTED!
If that's the biggest problem Gill faces at KU, I'll be thrilled.
I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.
I don't
know how good he’ds going to be able to recruit right away either…having low D-1 ties to the upper NE isn’t going to help much @ KU, and no kid is going to have any idea that he played for Nebraska (well, the kids that DO know that are the kids that are going to want to go to Nebraska).
This situation, to me reminds me of Iowa State when they ran McCarney out of town…McCarney did a HELL of a job there, but they wanted more. They forgot they were Iowa State. I think the ’07 season forced a lot of KU fans & Lew Perkins to forget, they are KU
BOOM! ROASTED!
He supposedly
Still has a lot of ties to Texas, where he’s from.
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 14, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Bill McCartney's strong religious beliefs really hurt him at Colorado
He was only able to win one National Championship!
As far as recruiting, the way I understand it he has good ties in Texas. He brought some of those kids up to Buffalo, I’m sure that was a hard thing to do. Plus, he was one of Nebraska’s biggest recruiters back in the 90’s. I think it is a good hire. He will fail or succeed based upon his recruiting and coaching. I don’t think his religious beliefs will hamper either.
You're right
his beliefs wont. If he continues his practice of trying to force those beliefs on others, it may.
And, being a good recruiter @ Nebraska in the 90’s is akin to saying you used to smoke good pot in the 70’s. If you showed up at any 5 star recruit’s door in the 90’s w/ an “N” on your shirt, you had a chance. If you smoked some pot in the 70’s, chances are it was good. Neither is an accomplishment worthy of anything other than the proverbial “Way to go!”
And bringing kids up to Buffalo from Texas isn’t hard. It’s not like he was stealing those kids from UT, Tech, A&M, OU, et all…He was taking the 1 & 2 star kids from that state that nobody else wanted. He can keep doing that @ KU all he wants!
BOOM! ROASTED!
I understand your critic
But the 90’s wasn’t that long ago. He was there in the late ninties and early 2000’s I think. Of course none of that makes any difference if he can’t reclaim any recruiting skill he had back then.
On the religion thing. I really haven’t said anything about it but there seems to be a number of people that make sarcastic comments about the religious beliefs of players/coaches/managers. Now I am religious but I am not really offended by it, there are plenty of stupid Christians out there.
But in a real world of sports, I think that the percentage of religious players and coaches is higher than say everday America. I would guess that the majority of contributors on this blog r working professionals and college students, a group of individuals that are not notoriously religious. I am sure that for most people reading/contributing to this blog a strongly religious boss/manager could be offensive to them. But within the confines of athletics there is a different demographic that I believe isn’t as put off by religion as other sectors of society. So, Turner Gills religious beliefs might give him problems if he was an office manager or department head at a University, but I just don’t think it is much of an issue in sports. As always, I might be wrong.
Certainly being religious doesn’t insure that he is a better coach than a non-religious coach. Same goes with players. The only thing it might do is improve your chances that your coach doesn’t pull a Larry Eustachy or Michael Vick.
I know you've all been waiting for it...
…So here it is. I’m finally weighing in on the Kendall signing. (exhale, everyone)
I’ve been reading on this site all of the arguments and counter-arguments about the merits of the whole deal. And mostly I’m impressed that folks can drum up so much emotion for such a deflating event. This is the single most dispiriting transaction the Royals have ever made. I hate it so much. Jason Kendall has not been a good major league player in years.
This signing is emblematic of how miserable it has been to be a fan of this franchise since the mid-90s. It’s the type of signing that fans of every other team in baseball sees and sighs with relief that it’s not their GM making that move. It’s utterly dreadful. I hate it.
Kendall will be among the five worst catchers in baseball. If the pitching improves it will not be due to his abilities, it will be because many young, talented pitchers (which describes Hochevar and Davies) often improve with age and experience.
As for anyone supporting this deal, I can’t wait to see the game threads during those many innings in which we’re subjected to Kendall, Betancourt, Getz/Anderson/Freel/CF-to-be-named-later going meekly down in order. Is there anything more hopeless? What a dreadful team.
To be clear...
I hate it in the “sharpen-a-razor-and-fill-a-warm-tub”, complete loss of hope way, and not in any passionate way. My blood isn’t boiling. I’m just depressed.
by billexgordler on Dec 14, 2009 6:38 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, I still find the Betancourt deal worse
But crap is still crap. In that case, you already had the built in bad contract but you gave up prospects for him so GMDM failed in even more aspects of the job.
It would be like seeing Kendall on another team with 2 yr/$6M left on the deal and then trading a prospect to get him when the other team would probably have given you a prospect to take him.
At least this way, he didn’t go out of his way to give up talent to take on the problem child.
Pos
Brilliant Reader Johnny suggests that Kendall clearly represents one more puzzle piece in Dayton Moore’s never-ending effort to rebuild the Major League roster. Kendall certainly does inspire thoughts of Tom Berenger’s former All-Star trying to get one more season in the sun (and you could see Kendall bunting in a key situation). Manager Trey Hillman has some Lou Brown in him — or, anyway, you could see him selling tires in Toledo. Kyle Farnsworth was probably an effort to recreate Charlie Sheen’s Wild Thing. Jose Guillen, at least at one time, hit fastballs very very good. And Sidney Ponson, Brett Tomko, Kip Wells, Bruce Chen and John Thompson were just five of the recent attempts to find the old pitcher, Harris, who is just hanging on … the search goes on.
And what are the Royals searching for now? You got it: A fast center fielder. If you see a really fast guy trying out in his pajamas — you will know.
Awesome.
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 14, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
In the comments
Some Reds fan is trying to convince the Royals to acquire Willy “Mays” Taveras to fill that role. That just seems inevitable now.
If you look closely, it really says "CentralChamps2012."
by CentralChamps2009 on Dec 14, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I can't wait for the Mellinger's "reasonable" column about that transaction
“No, Willy Taveras can’t hit. His defense is overrated. He’s probably not an upgrade over Mitch Maier. Still, I think people are overreacting. Alex Gordon is never going to be as good as Evan Longoria or Ryan ZImmerman, people, face it, it’s not that big a loss. No, it’s not a good move, but I just don’t get the uproar. Taveras isn’t going to cost that much.”
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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 14, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Taveras isn’t going to cost that much.
I think Dayton can get him for no more than 2 years $6 million
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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 14, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, that's also Jose Guillen
“I’m just here collecting a pay check. If I can fake an injury and not show up, I’m good, too.”
I think Olivo is the 2009 Cerrano.
Who's the guy they trade to the Yankees (or was it the White Sox)
for the catcher (who almost certainly would have been John Buck)?
Guess if history is any judge, it would have been Beltran.
Here’s his take on Kendall: Predictable.
If GMDM made more good moves, we wouldn’t get so annoyed at all the bad “little” moves.
Nah,
Guillen is Dorn. Olivo is Cerrano. ;)
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