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  1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
  2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
  3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
  4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
  5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you've ever paid for?
  6. What is the worst wedding you've ever attended? 

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Thanks for taking my mind off Jason Kendall

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
Not all professionals know what they are doing. Take advantage of the ones that don’t.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
You’re just trying to get me to reveal my list! I’d say right now he’s probably just outside the top 25 but he’s certainly on a track to be in the top ten.

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

Projectile vomit?

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

Jock Jamz. I think Volume 1.

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

I think the first time I went to Piropos back when it was in Parkville I probably paid $60. But that includes appetizer, wine, coffee and desert. I thought it was worth it.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

One of my law school classmates, a sweet girl, was Seventh Day Adventist, so the wedding was on a Sunday. It started at 4 pm and the reception was at 5:30 or so, so you’d think there would be dinner. Nope. So I was completely starving. The only food they served was wedding cake and these really sweet chocolates. Have you ever eaten chocolate when you’re starving? Its terrible, it only makes you hungrier. And to compound things, we were at Crown Center on a Sunday when the food court has closed and back then there really wasn’t anything to eat anywhere nearby. It was a beautiful wedding, but I think I would have at least sprung for some finger foods.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

been to a few weddings like that...

where the reception is cake and punch in the church hall

but never really as an adult

I wonder if that way of doing it is changing… all of my memories of those types of very small, contained, rceptions are of relatively primitivist protestant denominations, in a rural area

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhhhhh...
Not all professionals know what they are doing. Take advantage of the ones that don’t.

But they are. I mean, they gave one the most important job in the organization, and they’re taking full advantage of it!

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Bagging on jock jamz, especially volume 1 is not allowed. That was a great album. Now Jock Jamz two maybe, but jock jamz 1 was amazing,

by wildthang on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm bored and on lunch break...

1) I am in marketing and I have found that social medias are an excellent way for me to interact with clients, fans, etc. Listening to them express their ideas and concerns has changed at least two or three ways we offer our product. I really wish DM and Trey would read RR and act accordingly. I think they could learn a thing or two from a few of the posters here.
2) I think with the story of Greinke’s struggles off the field and his ability to overcome and have a year like 2009 puts him in the top 10 or 15 pretty easily. Ask this question in 5 years and I think you will have a unanimous top 10 consensus.
3) I would not be a Royals fan today if I had heard the truth from a time traveler in 1999. Honestly, my first reaction would have been disbelief. Then I would have started following the Rays or Rockies instead.
4) Worst album I’ve ever bought? Incubus’ A Crow Left of the Murder. Enough said.
5) I have never been one to splurge on meals, but I did purchase wine and a meal at a fine sushi restaurant for myself and the girl I was dating a little less than a year ago. I’m sure that ran me up around $60 or $80… I don’t remember.
6) I hate weddings. I can honestly say that I have only been to 4 or 5 and I don’t remember having a good time at any of them. I did have a friend (who was more like an acquaintance) call me up one day and ask me to attend his wedding. The wedding was that day and I was the only person in attendance besides him, his fiancé and his mom. I was a witness.

by FretFriendly on Dec 15, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm, great questions.

1. I work with elementary children, so the need for instant gratification is very apparent. Outside of that, not really.

2. Top 10 right now. Hasn’t been a career contributor to the Royals yet, but his season was one of the greatest played in a Royals uniform. That has to count, right?

3. I’d punch them in the face.

4. Oh man, not sure I can answer this one. Can’t think of anything, luckily I never wanted to spend a lot of money on music. I was content with borrowing a friend’s cd.

5. Plaza III, I think. Something like $160 bill when I was in high school, no alcohol on there.

6. Cousin was married to a serious Baptist girl a couple of summers ago. Wedding was too awful, but the reception was literally cake and punch with absolutely no music and obviously no booze. Everybody just kind of sat around being uncomfortable for about 30 minutes, then people started running out of that place.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

How the hell

could you afford a $160 bill in HIGH SCHOOL?? And how did you manage that with no booze? I need to know what I am missing out on!

by FretFriendly on Dec 15, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Big date night, 6 month anniversary or some shit.

That was money well spent.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it worth it?

Plaza III is a place I’ve wanted to try, but I’m not a huge steak guy.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not even close to worth it.

I could cook my own steak and potato for $15 and have a much better steak. The atmosphere is nice, but not that nice.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to know

If I’m going to plunk down that kind of change, I want to get something I could never make myself in a million years – Piropos, Michael Smith, and Bluestem. I can make a pretty decent steak.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the key to buying a good steak at a restaruant

is making sure they have high quality steak. The top of the line restaurants have steaks that you can’t buy at your grocery store. But if you can get a high quality steak, you bet you can make just as good yourself for half the price.

by wt on Dec 15, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe that's why I don't do steak at restaurants very often.

Parents raise cattle and we get our beef that way, so I’ve always got great steaks.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

Unless the restaurant is specifically known for steak, I’ll skip it. I’ve only had 1 good steak from a restaurant. My dad always made them great, so I was spoiled as a young adult.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

There are restaurants known for steak

I won’t set foot into. In fact, that would be “every mid-price steak house on the planet other than Outback”, which is good if the operator carries the prime cuts.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Outback is a serious guility pleasure for Mrs. Fingers and I

… and they shut down in Ontario over a year ago without warning.

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I'm not talking about Outback or Applebee's or any kind of national chain

I’m talking local, upscale, with a reputation. Even then, I don’t want to chance it. The only restaurant I’ve ordered steak in over the last 10 years would be The Majestic Steakhouse, which has since closed. It was excellent, and the live jazz music was pretty cool too.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The Majestic closed?

Shit ass monkey balls!

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Since reopened

under different ownership. Same name, more or less, I believe.

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by Sweep_the_Leg on Dec 16, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Plaza III

I can’t find them right now, but the health department used to publish the results of their restaurant inspections. I used to look at them now an then.

Because I used to read those things (and also because I spent plenty of time working in kitchens), I’m actually kind of jaded about that stuff. Still…. I’ve never eaten at Plaza III because of things I read in those health department inspection reports.

by kcemigre on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

1.Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

Always stay on the cutting edge. I’m a computer programmer, and in the 9 years I’ve been on my job, our application has moved from C++/PowerBuilder to COM/Visual Basic and now to C#. You snooze, you lose.

2.Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

He’s had two great seasons, but I’m not ready to put him up there in the inner-most circle yet. Probably somewhere between # 21 -25.

3.In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

Disappointed, but I wouldn’t have changed my fan-allegiance over it.

4.What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

I bought Bonnie Tyler’s Greatest Hits because I love “Total Eclipse of the Heart.” It was the only song on the entire album worth listening to.

I also bought Shania Twain’s self-titled debut album because I love her more well-known work so much. Haven’t listened to it once since the first time.

5.What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

I once sprung for about $60 per person meal at a place called “The Prime Grill” in Manhattan because my mother-in-law wanted to go there for her birthday. Quite frankly, I didn’t think it was worth it, I’ve had much better meals at comparably fancy restaurants for about 2/3 the price.

6.What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

Just a few weeks ago, a friend of my wife got married for the second time (to a guy who’d also been around the block once). There was no meal to speak of, a few hot dishes that we guests could partake of buffet-style, and they tasted terrible. There weren’t too many guests, and the place still felt cramped.

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by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

fun list

1. from my job- get your basic human dignity from somewhere besides your job.
2. zach ranking- comprable to Bo. Hasn’t been here long enough, won enough to be in the upper echelon, but is a huge attraction
3. seein the future- we’re still in kc after all that?
4. worst album- boxcar willie gas station tape.
5. 25$ at hereford house.
6. I can’t recall ever being at a bad wedding.

by gratis1920 on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

from my job- get your basic human dignity from somewhere besides your job.

I bet Dayton and Trey would actually agree with that

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

1. I am a Civil Engineer and I have to go through several reviews before my construction plans get produced. DM should have to go through several reviews before his trades/ FAs come to fruition.
2. If ZG can perform as an elite pitcher in the AL over the remainder of his current contract, he should land in the Royal’s top 5.
3. Punch time traveller in the groin. Drink.
4. Chumbawumba’s “Tubthumper” was incredibly awful, even to a junior high version of myself.
5. I think I dropped close to $200 for my fiance and I at the Drover in Omaha. It was worth it though. Great steak, shrimp, wine, potato, salad.
6. I’ve never really been to a bad wedding. I guess a couple that didn’t have open bar weren’t ideal, but they were still fun.

by Tubmin on Dec 15, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

What is the environmental impact

Of signing Jason Kendall?

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Global temperature increased by 1 degree

from the hot air expelled by me alone

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets see

1.Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
Well im in college right now so I would say that Alberto should learn not to drink and drive.

2.Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
He’s already top 10. I mean lets be honest there havent been many great players for this team. Zack has had two great years in a row and had an impressive rookie season.

3.In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
Id say it sounds like the past 5 years.

4.What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
Limp Bisket…I was young…impressionable…

5.What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
Senior Prom. Spent about 120 bucks at the Plaza III on me and my gf. It was the greatest steak I had in my life though.

6.What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
Ive only been to a few weddings that my cousins had, they all sucked.

by KCG816 on Dec 15, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Let's do it.

1. In theory, it doesn’t seem that difficult to turn around a floundering organization. But it’s difficult and takes a special person. I hope Dayton is special.

2. #25. He’s been awesome for one year.

3. Unfortunately, I will not be surprised.

4. Baja Men- Who Let the Dogs Out? Not the single, either: the entire album.

5. ~$300 for two at Bluestem in Westport (I had the 7-course dinner with wine pairings). Best dining experience of my life. Pretty over the top, but highly recommended if you feel like blowing a lot of money on a fancy date.

6. Never been to a horrible wedding, so no good story to tell. I love weddings, but most of my friends are Catholics so the alcohol is always flowing.

by hippdoghipp on Dec 15, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

"I hope Dayton is special."

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by Top Ramen on Dec 15, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

@ #2

Yes, but he was historically awesome in 2009, and was pretty darn good in 2008 as well.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

intellectual humility and curiosity

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

I think he’s nearing the Top 10, if not in it aleady. I’m partial to somewhat like Greinke, with an awesome peak of success as a Royal, over someone like Frank White, who was mostly just a Royal for a million years.

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

would have been surprised and not surprised… its sad that everyone else (Twins, Brewers, Rays, etc) got a taste of success, and the ROyals never did

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

Probably the Chris Gaines single

   5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

I’ve spent 50-60 on a few occasions.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

I went to one or two as an older kid/young teen that were just incredibly boring. I didn’t have that six year old’s love of a random shiny environment. Nor, at that age, an ability to have fun with people I didn’t know. Or relatives really. People: if you have kids between the ages of 6-18, don’t take them to weddings if you don’t have to. NO ONE is getting anything out of it.

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

Heresy.
someone like Frank White, who was mostly just a Royal for a million years.

Look, Frank was great. I realize that in today’s age of dissecting numbers, we realize he wasn’t a good hitter at all, but he wasn’t a bad hitter by any stretch (especially considering the era), and defensively… defensively, Frank was magnificent. I don’t mean Yuniesky Betancourt magnificent, I mean Omar Vizquel magnificent.

I hate saying this, because it’s the sort of nonsense that leads to people claiming Yuni’s good, but you had to see Frank on a regular basis. (Which I think is a true statement of anyone who’s a truly great defender — our distrust of defensive metrics makes it easy to disregard guys with good defensive numbers if we haven’t seen them.) Frank made great plays — and he also very, very rarely fucked up the routine ones. Hell, who was the last Royals middle infielder you could say the latter about? You can’t even say it about Gritz.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

good point

at his peak, 1978-1986, White was just about a league average hitter (OPS + of 96) with a reputation for great defense

I’m not giving him enough credit

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Also to note:

White was about a league average hitter at a position where league average actually meant “above average”.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought OPS+ was adjusted for position

or is that WAR?

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by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

OPS+ isn't

adjusted for position, and one of the big problems with WAR is that its positional adjustments are arbitrary.

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by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention the whole concept

of “replacement level.”

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by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: Frank White

Here’s where to look

Not everone’s cup of tea, but does confirm that he was one of the (perhaps the outstanding defensive 2Bs of all-time. But he needed to be, since most years he was a terrible hitter… even for his position and era. Anyway, TotalZone confirms what the eyes told people not special on the DP, but absolutely monster range.

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In fairness

his monster range was also a function of the carpet and where he was able to position himself on it.

That said, positioning oneself is, uh, you know, a talent. So it’s not like that counts against him, just explains it.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely right

James puts it well when he writes that White came up in the original turf era, and he was the first 2B to adjust his game to suit it.

No different than Eddie Murray figuring out that a thin-handled bat with a big barrel would help his power game.

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Expanding on it

I don’t think people (especially nowadays) realize this, but those of us who saw a lot of games in the turf era know it.

You have no idea how many second baseman in the mid-late 70s tried to play at Royals Stadium as if it were a grass field. That, more than anything, contributed to the Royals’ success as a high-average team; ground ball after ground ball (which Frank White would have cleanly fielded for an out because he was 10-15 feet deeper in the hole) slid through for base hits. It took the league awhile to catch up and catch on, and that’s when the Royals’ high-average success began to decline.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

How to value assets.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

Top 5 with a bullet

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

Shrug

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

One of the Coldplay albums – the band is not a favorite by any means, but I had liked their previous CD. I was travelling and needed another CD, so I bought it.

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

Smith and Wollensky steakhouse in Vegas after a good day at the craps table and with some friends who were going to make the most of their 48 hour window away from the wife. All I remember is that my share of the tip was something like $40.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

A school friend got married in the afternoon on the hottest day of the year in a church with no ventilation and a full mass. The reception started at 4 pm at a hotel across town. The only appetizer was a veggie plate that disappeared in 10 minutes, and the keg ran out of beer about 30 minutes later. The couple had, um, waited and did not show up to the reception until 8 pm that night and then decided to do a receiving line first, so dinner was not served until something like 10 pm that night.

by Gopherballs on Dec 15, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
    Three phrases: 1 – Cover for me. 2 – Good Idea Boss! 3 – I dunno, it was like that when I got here.

   Seriously though, peer reviews. All big decisions get hashed out with people from all over, not the same small brain trust.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
  Top 10.

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
   Not exactly surprised, but I’d probably follow the team a lot less.

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
   Can’t think of one really bad one, although I do regret how much money I spent on CDs. If only napster had been around before I hit college…

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
   50-60/per plate at Rembrants in KC MO for prom.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
   I went to a reception that was outdoors in late October. It was below freezing. Everyone was huddled around the three propane heaters.

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by Top Ramen on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Response

1. I would apply the ability to publicly admit mistakes, it really helps employees buy into you; and oh yeah: NOT REPEATING THE SAME MISTAKES (sorry for the shouting, but seriously, the revolving door of bad FA pickups is killing me.)

2. I will follow suit here and say #25, needs more consistency over time.

3. Would have totally believed him, that tenure of not having an owner was back breaking and very dificult to recover from. Nothing gets done via committee.

4. Stone Temple Pilots 3rd album: Little Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop
So dissapointing because their previous 2 albums were freaking hit factories. I totally picked them to be my band of the 90’s; and then the rug got jerked out.

5. $110 per plate, Commander’s Palace, New Orleans. Once in a lifetime old school whiteglove dining experience, worth every penn.

6. Worst wedding in Paola Kansas. Girl I worked with and had a crush on, red headed gymnast, marrying the biggest redneck douche-bag in the world. As soon as “I do” was said he literally runs and changes into cut-off jeans and starts doing keg stands with his buddies. Didn’t dance with his wife once, as she spent the rest of the night in her gown awkwardly wandering around the barn the reception was held in. So titanically uncomfortable, but at least the BBQ and Beer was pretty kick ass.

(On a side note, saw her about a year ago and she looks 10 years older than she is, just beaten up by life; take a lesson here kids, it’s okay to wait. I have never met anyone who has regretted waiting to get married).

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 15, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

I have never met anyone who has regretted waiting to get married

whats the gender breakdown of that?

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying not to be sexist, but yeah, men have a serious advantage in the waiting game

Even still, don’t know too many women that waited and it turned out bad. Neither me nor either of my sisters got married before 30 and they married awesome guys. Granted small sample size, but this is an opinion based post after all.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 15, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like

People are waiting more these days. I didn’t get married til I was almost 30 and I still have several single friends over 30. Back in my parents day, that was pretty unheard of.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think another caveat would be

to not have kids just because you got married. It seems like the more tragic cases involve early marriage coupled with immediately starting a family.

by KCBear on Dec 15, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point right there KCBear

People are waiting longer to get married, but it is still a good idea to wait even after getting married to start “the Fam”.

My little Bro got "The Big D’, last year from a completely shallow, money grubbing and hateful….well hick, of a woman, and after the first month of this initial news we were all happy (including him) that no kids were involved.

Everyone; if you only have to pay money to the person you thought loved you but had actually been cheating on you for over a year, it entirely allows you to get over it that much quicker. So it’s a win/win, no kids, and only down a couple tens of thousands of dollars! SWEET!

did that come out really mean?

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by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

ouch... redheaded gymnast... (sigh)

I assume it was the typical -but-still-crushing “friend who doesn’t look at you like that and marries a jerk” thing?

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Never made a real move but the chemistry was clear

She openly told co-workers of her interest in me, and doubts about her fiance, but she followed the Paola way and stuck it out.

I definitely feel I upgraded though, besides red-heads I’ve always had a wicked case of the yellow fever and my wife is Chinese/Malaysian. Spent last year in Pinang, perfect excuse to spend next year in Bali followed by Tokyo.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Was her name Pam?

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 16, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes with the wife, no on Pam.

However I do work in the office supply business and do sell large quantities of paper.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

STP

I thought for sure both would be our generation’s version of The Stones, kicking out hits for decades and playing Super Bowls when I was in my 60s. They kinda petered out with the decade.

I’d love to see a great documentary of Scott Weiland. The dude had TREMENDOUS talent, and kinda pissed it all away.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

drugs are bad

mmkay?

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, everyone had that.

Hell I even liked Velvet Revolver, too bad Scott can’t keep from chasing the White Dragon’s Tail.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 15, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

no i did not

maybe i’m not young enough

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't own it

and i’m your age or within 1 yr either way. But I wanted to own it.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Dec 15, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I owned it...

but I didn’t stumble upon it till years later, ive always been kind of a music snob, I still hate myself for refusing to listen to Radiohead for so long.

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by averagegatsby on Dec 15, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought only music snobs listened to Radiohead?

I gave them up just after Kid A, which I liked, but Amnesiac was terrible and people still wouldn’t stop talking about how amazing Radiohead is/was.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

well yeah now...

But when they first came out the were the new band that cool kids listened to… And I was above that then.

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by averagegatsby on Dec 16, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The girl I took to Plaza III?

Sounds like a very similar story. Caution to all.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

All of them...

I work in a “Entertainment Superstore” Willie Nelson’s christmas CD is going to make me kill myself… I may not make it to Christmas this year.

Working retail will make you hate Christmas like you never thought possible.

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by averagegatsby on Dec 15, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't they play Little Dealer Boy by Willie Nelson featuring Stephen Colbert?

If you haven’t heard it, you should find it and slip it into the rotation.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh...

Its really a non-issue for the most part I receive stuff, so fortunately Im only on the sales floor for about 30mins to an hour, but thats about all it takes.

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by averagegatsby on Dec 16, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The Beatles: Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time

and anything having to do with Amy Grant makes me want to commit Hari Kuri. Restaurants also hump the 1 hour Christmas tape during the holidays, guranteed to hear every song at least 20 times. Man I need drink just thinking about it.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

My favorite bad music used to be a trip to the Blue Springs Thai Place

You were sure to hear Andrea Bocelli’s “Con Te Partiro” at least once. They finally changed the music a year or 2 ago.

by AxDxMx on Dec 16, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe that's actually just Paul McCartney

And I hate to say it, but that’s probably my favorite Christmas song.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 16, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If I just heard that song once or twice per season, it wouldn't be too bad

but it seems like it’s on the radio every time I turn it on Thanksgiving.

Also, not a fan of:
    Last Christmas by Wham
    Do they even know it’s Christmas? by Live Aid
   Same Old Auld Lang Syne by Dan Fogelberg

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by Top Ramen on Dec 16, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for the McCartney correction

I hate that song so much I’ve never looked it up. And how can you like it better than Chuck Berry’s Run Run Rudolph?

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Winnar

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 16, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Must.Have.Music.

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by philofthenorth on Dec 18, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

Job? What job?

Okay, okay, from my last job: I wish they’d learn that it’s okay to make mistakes so long as you learn from them rather than continuing to repeat them.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

Not even in the top ten… yet. Only because he needs more time, though. He could easily end up in the top three, and of course possibly the top one if he stays long enough and continues to excel.

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

“Okay, so what are the winning numbers in Tuesday’s MegaMillions, and how can I properly invest the winnings over the next three years to rake in enough money to buy the team?”

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

Hootie and the Blowfish, Cracked Rear View. In fairness, I “bought” it because it was a Columbia House selection I forgot to decline, and then kinda blew it off and accidentally paid for it…

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

I used to have a good job. With good money. And Morton’s was just around the corner from my place. Some friends and I would go eat there just about monthly, and let me tell you the $80 porterhouse was worth almost every penny.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

Oh, that’s easy. BOTH OF MINE.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

I'd probably tell the time-traveler

Tell Deric Ladnier to draft Tim Lincecum, tell Dayton Moore to draft Jason Heyward and Gordon Beckham, and for god’s sake don’t have anything to do with Jose Guillen.

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but then I

wouldn’t have millions of dollars.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

   1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

Make sure the whole supporting structure is in place, before you make the big push (I work in drilling). In baseball terms, make sure you have a solid team before splashing out on expensive Free Agents in a half assed attempt to win now.

   2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

No where very high yet. Won’t be long though.

   3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

I’d have exhaled deeply, shook my head and entirely believed him.

   4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

None. I’m cheap, and normally find a way to listen before I actually buy it.

   5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

About $80 USD, at a restaurant in London, England a few years back.

   6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

My Brother’s. No one should get married in Saskatoon in February. I kid. I’m lucky, every wedding I have been to has been a very happy and joyous occasion.

by kcbottom9th on Dec 15, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Without reading any previous responses

1) Classroom teacher: Never lose your cool and always have an alternate lesson plan.
2) Right now he’s in the top ten, floating around among Gubicza and Split and Appier among our top starting pitchers ever. One more year like 2009 and he’ll be number two. It’s going to be tough to overtake Brett as Greatest Royal Ever, and somehow I doubt that Zack will spend his entire career in KC.
3) I’d have gone out and gotten real drunk.
4) I’d have to say “Tin Machine” by David Bowie or “The Spaghetti Incident” by Guns’n’Roses.
5) I’ve never paid more than about thirty bucks of my own money for a meal. On an expense account, probably sixty.
6) It was a couple that everyone knew was about to break up, and the reception was a keg in the backyard. They wound up getting it annulled. Then, of course, there was the nude wedding out at Clinton Lake, but that’s a whole nother story.

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by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

After reading previous responses

Sounds like I’m a little higher than most on Zack’s historical rating, but he’s already as good as any pitcher we’ve ever had.

I’m a vegetarian (since age thirteen) so it’s sort of difficult for me to buy an expensive meal. I did fish for a few years in my early thirties. The expense account sixty bucks was for fresh merluza (a codlike whitefish) prepared al ajo tostado in a nice Madrid seafood place, with wine and dessert. And the waiter insisted that we all have a shot of orujo on the house. Which is this 160 proof Spanish hooch made out of God knows what.

Yeah, if I actually met a time traveler, I’d ask him a lot of much more important questions than the fate of the Royals.

All I can say about the nude wedding is that the minister got a stiffy.

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by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had to pick

one Royals pitcher right after his best year to throw Game Seven in the World Series, I’d pick 1) Zack 2) Saberhagen 3) Cone 4) Appier 5) Gubicza. This is without looking up any stats, though I’ll bet that Zack’s 2009 ERA+ is the best, and probably his WHIP as well.

The nude wedding minister had sent in his twenty bucks to become a pastor in the Universal Life Church. Supposedly that made him legal to perform marriages. He was kind of an ugly short guy with red hair, which made him really strange-looking. Especially with a boner.

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by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Love these. I vote that there be a mandatory one every Tuesday.

Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
I work for the government (your tax dollars funding this post!). So no.

Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
Talent-wise he’s in the top ten, maybe top five. Performance-wise I think he’ll end up in the top ten for sure, with a good chance of being the best (context-neutral) pitcher in team-history. He already owns the best single season. He’ll have trouble with the counting stats if he doesn’t stay beyond the four year extension, particularly in categories like starts and innings with the five man rotation.

In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
Like I react to any Dayton Moore transaction: not particularly surprised, but depressed/revolted all the same.

What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
I bought a tape of the spice girls wannabe single when I was like twelve years old.

What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
100 euros (~$140) for a meal in Paris. Perhaps the best meal I’ve ever eaten that I didn’t make myself. This was a set price/menu meal that included before dinner drinks, hors d’oeuvres, appetizers, multiple wines, multiple meal courses, desert, after dinner drinks, coffee, etc. Meal took about four hours. Stateside I had a forty dollar meal at the peppercorn duck club for prom in high school. No booze, but a great meal. Multiple courses and whatnot still. Probably not worth the forty bucks for a meal with no wine, but it was still quite good.

What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
My own.

Let's just trust the process.

by trusttheprocess on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Do you definitely think

Grienke’s 2009 is better than Saberhagen’s 1989?

Not to argue too strenuously, but I have seen/heard others say that Grienke 2009 was the best season by a Royals starting pitcher, and I always wonder why. Sabes was amazing that year. And the distance between him and the second-best pitcher in the league was further than the distance between Grienke and his runner-up in Seattle.

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by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll post on this.. maybe after Xmas

having to reassemble my database after a computer crash. But the new park adjustments are in. But, short answer, yes, last I checked, Greinke edges out Sabes

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

according to my calculations... there's other ways to do it, natch

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, absolutely. I think the distance between first and second is less important than the distance between first and the average. If Felix had died in a plane crash during spring training and not pitched in 2009, that would not have made Zack’s performance any different just the same as Felix’s 2009 should not be discounted simply because Zack’s season was better.

Not to rely too much on ERA/ERA+ here, but this example sets up perfectly to demonstrate the utility of the ERA+ metric. Greinke and Sabes had the EXACT SAME ERA in the years in question: 2.16. However, due to the offensive environments in which they pitched, ERA+ for Greinke is 205, 180 for Sabes. Both stellar numbers, but Greinke pitched 105% better than average, Sabes pitched 80% better than average. Both stellar seaons, but Greinke’s much better in terms of ERA.

Sabes gets a clear nod in the workhorse type stats, he threw more innings and started more games. Much of this difference, particularly in innings, is due to when they pitched. Greinke gets major points for a ton more strikeouts in far fewer innings

As far as rate stats, The home runs per nine were the same, Greinke issued a half a walk per nine more than Sabes, but Greinke crushes Saberhagen in the strikeout department: 9.5 vs. 6.6 k/9.

It should also be noted that Greinke played in front of an utterly terrible defense, whereas Saberhagen played in front of a good defense. FIP tends to support that as Saberhagen’s ERA of 2.16 is lower than his FIP of 2.45. With Greinke, his 2.16 ERA was also better than his 2.33 FIP, but A. the difference between the two is smaller, and 2.33 is better than 2.45 straight up. Consider a 2.45 in 1989 vs. a 2.33 in 2009 and it’s an even bigger gap.

So, yes, I think that Greinke’s historically good 2009 was the superior pitching season to Saberhagen’s merely really really really good 1989.

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by trusttheprocess on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Wedding story

I have never commented before, but have read a bunch. I am not much of a blogger but enjoy reading people’s opinions. I had to post on this one though, just to share my wedding story. I can’t do it justice, but it was pretty awful. Anyways…

1) Ecologist/farmer: Don’t put all your eggs in one basket (Guillen)…uh don’t count your chickens before they hatch (maybe this relates to negotiating the market last offseason). Something to do with eggs.

2)One more really good year and he is in the top ten. If he is on a Royals playoff team ever, top five

3)Honestly I probably wouldn’t have invested as much time in being a baseball fan in general.

4) Alanis Morissette, jagged little pill. I tell everybody that it was my sisters.

5) I have paid up to $60 a couple of times. Most of the time it is worth it. I once spent $40ish at a steakhouse in Chicago. The steak was tough and they put ‘fried onions’ ontop of it which turned out to be too much like the canned fried onion things you put on casseroles.

6)Worst wedding:

My brother-in-law got married in Naples, Florida. He was 21 and the bride was 29 (28 maybe) I was a groomsman. This was such a bad experience. My wife and I met up with him a couple of days before the wedding in Florida. He immediately informed me that I would have to rent a tux for the wedding after he had told me (and I reaffirmed) that it was taken care of. I thought that was fishy and should have known better, but I was young and didn’t have any money. He then told me that it was $130 tux. I mean come on. So there went half of the money I brought to spend in Florida for four days. We then went to meet the new in-laws.

That night we tried to find a beach to hang out at but, it seemed that all of the beaches in Naples were private.

The next day we were to meet my brother-in-law’s new in-laws at a little private beach party. I am an environmentalist, right, and there were these ducks hanging around. They weren’t hurting anything or being annoying in any way. The first thing the bride’s mother said to me was ‘sorry about the ducks, the environmentalists won’t let us kill them".

The rehearsal was uncomfortable as the bride’s mom was running the show and very bossy. The priest went on a long discussion of how he used to be great friends with the Bride and how funny the fates are and how the choices we make…He obviously used to have a crush on her (don’t know why).

My mother-in-law set up the rehearsal dinner, so that actually went well.

The day of the wedding, the groom was running late…Well, I mean he wasn’t there 2 hours before it began. The bride’s father asked her where the groom was and she said "I think he is on is way" at which he said "You think or you know" very rudely.
At the end of the wedding, the bride wanted to several takes of them exiting and everyone throwing rice (or whatever it was) on them. So they did their big exit three times.

We got lost going to the reception and they freaked out on us. We had to run from the car to the reception hall and walk in to the party while the DJ played "yall ready for this" while our names were announced.

It was a Lutheran wedding. I don’t know what that means exactly except for the DJ could only play songs that glorified HIS name.

My mother-in-law got it worse though. The reason the groom was late was because his car broke down. The other two groomsmen were going to drive it back to Missouri the next day. Since they could no longer do that, she had to get them to the airport by 7:00 am the next day. They ended up leaving at 4:00 in the morning the next day. Oh, and the groom asked his mother the night before the wedding for hotel fair for the three days before and after the honeymoon. Apparently he had run out of money (my guess at a strip club).

There was so much more that I can’t remember right now. It was so bad we wrote it all down and kept for record all of the rude or funny quotes people said. It is really funny to go back through all of those quotes.

The groom has since divorced and remarried.

by tomasofthejungle on Dec 15, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

sounds like one bad thing after another

the first wedding I went to after college… all of us showed up without invitations, which was fine, except we had no idea where anything was

one of my friends called home, had his sister read him the addresses… only, this was chicagoland and pre-garmin era…

our car never found the church (terrible feeling of driving around aimlessly for hours) but we did find teh reception

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a Lutheran wedding. I don’t know what that means exactly except for the DJ could only play songs that glorified HIS name

Doesn’t mean much. Mine was a Lutheran wedding and we had a band that played zero songs that you describe. And I’ve been to other Lutheran weddings that don’t do that. It was likely just another really bad choice in a day full of them.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I am retired maybe Dayton and Trey should try it.

Classic

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 15, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the wedding story

I’ve been to a couple of receptions without booze though. Not good times.

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by Top Ramen on Dec 15, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what people are thinking sometimes

You want people to hang out and enjoy themselves, at least have there be a bar there, whether it’s “open” or not. Otherwise the party ends early and you paid for 3 hours you don’t need.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I don’t mean to sound judgemental, but seriously, you really can’t have a good time without alcohol? Good music, dancing, a good meal, and the company of mutual friends/relatives (assuming that you’re on good terms with at least a decent subset of the attendees) can’t make a good time at a wedding without alcohol?

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by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I can have a fine time without alcohol

It just seems like the ones without it tend to end faster, were thrown together on the cheap (thus no bar service), food is bad, DJ sucks, etc. So even with alcohol, the reception would have sucked. It just seems to be a symptom of weddings I’ve been to that have been bad. Also, I’m not really the most outgoing person, so it does make things a little easier at weddings where I don’t know anyone.

And I’m not much of a dancer so I don’t do it regardless unless it’s with my wife to a slow song, but the weddings without alcohol have a much lower proportion of people dancing in my experience. Or maybe it was the terrible DJ playing metal music, I don’t know. :)

Personally, at my wedding, I knew I had a lot of drunks on my dad’s side of the family, and my wife had 2 uncles on her side, so we knew an open bar would be a disaster. But if we didn’t have it there, they would have left early. Paying for it $3-$4 at a time kept them in check a bit (I’ve seen 2 of my uncles go through two 30 packs in a single night!).

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Reasonable enough

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by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

some of us are from traditions where there's (usuallly) no drinking or dancing at weddings

if it’s not the expectation, there are other traditions that make it entertaining enough

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of traditions...

I thought the “puttin the couple in chairs and carrying them” was jewish thing, but I’ve seen it a couple times now at non-jewish weddings

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And on The Office

I think it might be people trying to be cool

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

What traditions could those be? I've really never heard of them and would be interested to know.

I mean, even in ancient times they threw quite the wedding feasts that would last for days. It’s a joyous occasion where people should have fun and celebrate two people joining their lives together. Although I suppose if you were a Quaker or something, I could understand.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Mennonite

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

just curious...

was that a part of you having a long wedding, or was that more reception stuff?

by Freneau on Dec 16, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

wasn't a super-Mennonite-y wedding

although the absence of drinking and dancing and presence of people with weird German/Dutch names may have made it seem so

No, we just threw a bunch of stuff in there

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 16, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand now.

As a sidenote, I went to college in Pella, IA. I’ve never been around so many Dutch people. All the last names were funky, and the vast majority were really tall (I’m 6 foot tall, but these people were giants!). And they had a Tulip Festival in the spring that they forced the college students to work. It was the biggest fundraiser of the year for all the athletic groups.

by AxDxMx on Dec 16, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Lake Red Rock, IIRC

It was nice that it was fairly close to Des Moines, but I wouldn’t recommend college in a small town to anyone.

by AxDxMx on Dec 16, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh god, a Central alumnus....

“If you not Dutch, you ain’t much.” Is that still the school’s motto?

by grudz96 on Dec 23, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

The only good thing I came out of there with was my wife.

by AxDxMx on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The receptions I've been to with no alcohol have all been Catholic weddings

which wouldn’t prevent it from a tradition sense. I think it was more an issue of the brides’ parents wanting to keep the costs down.

We had unlimited beer/wine at my (Catholic) reception. It worked out pretty well.

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by Top Ramen on Dec 16, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Catholic

and I’ve NEVER been to a Catholic reception without beer. Definitely not a tradition thing.

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by Warden11 on Dec 16, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
Money is a terrible thing to waste.

Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
Gotta be Top 10 for his story alone. Goes from almost mowing lawns and quitting baseball to having one of the all-time great pitcher seasons? That’s a movie folks.

In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
I would have quit while I was ahead.

What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
Not sure. Probably some crappy local punk band’s CD from a concert of theirs I attended. For $5 though, I could probably argue I got what I was expecting.

What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
$100 total for my wife and I a few times. Nothing special.

What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
A former co-worker of my wife’s had her wedding in this huge church that wasn’t even 25% full. Then we went to the reception afterward which consisted of a huge rented space with tables bunched needlessly and it was an appetizer buffet, no meal.

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Another detail about that wedding reception

It was 7 pm at night and the wedding was at 5:30. If you’re going to make it at meal time, please give us a meal. The reception was in a rented room right next to a Hereford House, so smelling that was fun.

Also, there was music playing, but it was a mix CD that the bride had made. So no DJ, no band. We just sat there staring at each other thinking, “this is it?”

by AxDxMx on Dec 15, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Should be a law, have to be at the wedding by 5...get home around 9 at the earliest, so a meal better be involved.
It was 7 pm at night and the wedding was at 5:30. If you’re going to make it at meal time, please give us a meal.

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by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Peanut butter jelly time

1.Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?

Right. I’m a student and I study English. Umm… do homework? No, I did just fine without doing homework. Read James Joyce’s Ulysses? Yeah, they should do that.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

Top 20, I imagine. He’s already, what, like the 5th best pitcher? I’d say he’ll be in the top 10 before long.

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

I’d question why he’s come to tell me that.

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

 Never bought a lot of music. I like my radio.
 
5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

 I’m not one to spend that much money. No more than $40 at some Italian restaurant after some high school dance.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

Only attended my brother’s wedding, and I was mad I wasn’t his best man.

Wow, my answeres are boring.

by NotAHippie on Dec 15, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

I never got beyond like page three

in “Ulysses.” I did read “Portrait of the Artist,” the obligatory roman à clef, and “Dubliners.” I dunno, Joyce just doesn’t do it for me. Neither does D.H. Lawrence, or Lawrence Durrell, and I can’t make the least bit of sense out of Ezra Pound, who was a crazy old Fascist anyway.

Give me good solid American novelists, Dos Passos and Faulkner. I understand almost everything Faulkner’s trying to say, I think, and it helps a lot being more or less from that area. Maybe if I were from Ireland I’d understand what Joyce is trying to say. And I think John O’Hara is criminally underrated.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

For some reason

I’ve always preferred British literature to American lit. Especially old poetry. Huge fan of Donne, Gray, Cowper, and the like.

I guess I like Ulysses because it’s complicated. It’s something that I would write if I could.

by NotAHippie on Dec 15, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i read ulysses during a summer grad school class

great way of doing it

class met 4 days a week over like 3 weeks… i was able to understand/be told what was happening more

never liked portrait

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I read Ulysses in high school

I didn’t graduate with honors, but my English teacher said that I read Ulysses and understood it, that’s way more impressive than graduating with honors.

by NotAHippie on Dec 15, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like

American regional stuff. Eudora Welty and Carson McCullers. Earlier than that, you have Mark Twain, of course. And “Spoon River Anthology” and “Winesburg, Ohio.” And “Tobacco Road,” just for shits and grins. Sinclair Lewis is mostly overrated, but he had two big ones at the beginning of his career. I really like Nelson Algren and Vachel Lindsay and E.E. Cummings, with their rhythm of American life. And the New York Broadway columnists, Damon Runyon and Ring Lardner.

A writer I recommend, who is from Clarksville, Texas, near my dad’s hometown of Paris, is William Humphrey. His most famous book is “Home from the Hill.” They made a movie out of it in the early ’60s and everything.

There are several Texas alternative-country-roots-Americana singers, like Tom Russell, James McMurtry (son of novelist Larry McMurtry, whose “The Last Picture Show” is worth reading), and Robert Earl Keen (the best musician of the lot, with an English degree from Texas A&M), who are excellent writers and storytellers.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I love me some REK

but I’m with you on Joe Ely, too.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

One more recommendation

The Laura Ingalls Wilder / Rose Wilder Lane (her daughter) series commonly known as “Little House on the Prairie.” It’s hardcore pioneer life, nothing like the TV show or “The Waltons” or any of that crap.

It seems that Laura wrote the rough drafts and Rose cleaned them up and made them publishable. Rose was an interesting writer in her own right, a novelist and journalist, an early feminist but also a proto-Ayn Rand libertarian.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I've actually read those

Been a while though. I remember enjoying them.

by NotAHippie on Dec 15, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

sarah orne jewett

country of the pointed firs

is pretty good

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to read that

Didn’t do it. Don’t know why. I was being lazy and refused to read it.

by NotAHippie on Dec 15, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually have a copy of that

(left behind by an American friend who went back home to live) that I’ve never read. It’s next on my list now.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

James McMurtry is badass.

Recommend Live in Aught Three 100%, maybe the best cd I’ve purchased.

I used to work with an old man that told me- Son, every workplace has a dumbass. If you don't have one where you work, then I'm afraid you're it.

by Warden11 on Dec 15, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta give some props to the sci-fi/fantasy world

Asimov, Bradbury, Robert Louis Stevenson, Shelley, Bram Stoker, Poe

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Dec 16, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

hmm

   1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
 Don’t always listen to your teachers/mentors

   2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?

Top 15 right now…he easily could move up to #2 depending on how it all shakes out though.

   3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?

One of the things that has gotten me through this decade has been hope. In 2003, it felt long enough away that we would have a chance to contend in 2005-2006, then in 05-06 it felt like we might have a shot in 08-09, now we are hoping enough breaks right to compete in 2011-2012. Suffice to say, as a 12 yo kid living 2000 miles or so from KC, telling me that just might have been enough to make me a Giants/A’s fan today.

   4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

American Idiot

   5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
I took my girlfriend out to a decent sushi place and it ran me 70 bucks. Was definitely worth it though.

   6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
Haven’t been to enough as a person older than 14 to say

by wildthang on Dec 15, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

Come on

Someone’s worst wedding has to be “my girlfriend’s.”

by Gopherballs on Dec 15, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure most people

avoid attending that one.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I try to be polite and all

but I think I committed a social faux pas when I didn’t reply to the expensively engraved invitation to my ex-girlfriend’s wedding. They were doing it up big, too, since her father was dying of cancer. But there’s just no way I’m going to watch you be the princess on the day you finally give up your virginity.

It's pronounced Poo-ZHOLS in Catalan.

by Juancho on Dec 15, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I would guess

my mom’s/dad’s is also up there

by Freneau on Dec 15, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I was at my mom's wedding.

Well, you know, her second one. I even gave her away.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.... Guess I should do one of these

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn? Not working, I should borrow from grudz96, and say, “don’t work, boys, until you go back to school.” On the other hand, I sort of “work” at FanGraphs, which would be either tremendous for the Royals front office or awesomely hilarious.

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time? Ask me again in three years when his Royals career is over. It’s not that high now, but probably higher than I’d think

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted? I would never have gotten into baseball like I have the last couple years.

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought? Hmm… I’m pretty picky… Albums that I’ve bought? I’ve been given some terrible ones. As for those I’ve bought, like Dayton, I adhere to such a strict process that I’ve never bought a bad one. I guess I was pretty disappointed as a teenager when I bought Judas Priest’s Stained Class, but it’s not like I blew my own head off or anything.

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for? Canoe in Toronto. Can’t remember, at least $250 a person, and we took it easy. Hard to say whether or not it was worth it, but it was the among the best meals I’ve ever had, perhaps the best.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended? I am usually just bored at weddings. As for the wedding itself, well, objectively speaking… It was the best day of my life, and I would still say that, but if I’d been a guest, my own wedding would have to been one of the worst to sit through. We were so young and idealistic. Just overly long, pretentious, involving too many people.. nothing went wrong, it’s just that I cringe when I think about what people had to do and sit through to make it happen. We have some great family and friends, and after that, I’m surprised we still do.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at FanGraphs.

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by Matt Klaassen on Dec 15, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, man
I guess I was pretty disappointed as a teenager when I bought Judas Priest’s Stained Class, but it’s not like I blew my own head off or anything.

You’re evil. I’m really curious as to how many of us actually get the reference.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Priest

I know the reference. Really good album.

by RoyalsFan on Jan 6, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn? Hiring employees with ugly resumes is a bad idea.

Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
I’m more curious to know where Greinke’s 2009 ranks among the greatest single seasons of any Royal. I think it’s tops among pitchers, probably close to Brett’s 1980?

In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
I’d hav cryogenically frozen my fandom to be unfrozen in a year to be determined (sort of like the current state of my Chiefs fandom).

What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
I bought that Winger tape with “She’s only seventeen…chorus: SEVENTEEN!…Daddy says she’s too young, but she’s old enough for me!” circa 1988. Bought it right off the shelf.

What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
Still paying for my wife’s birthday at Daniel in NYC.

What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?
The one that didn’t include Eddie Money in the DJ’s dancemix

*You think I'm good* "You know, that Farnsworth is pretty good." *You will give me 9 million dollars* "So, Farnsy, how does $9 million sound?"

by jackie ballgame on Dec 15, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

On expensive meals

I occasionally travel for work and get to spend the meal per diem for the area, which is usually far above what I’d normally spend on meals. You’re more or less encouraged to spend every dollar available, because you don’t get to keep it.

A lesson I’ve learned the hard way: Get something you like.

I almost always make the mistake of trying something new under the premise that I’m not paying for it anyway. After seeing the food arrive, I’m almost always disappointed I didn’t go with the steak or lobster.

Unless I'm wrong...
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by Top Ramen on Dec 15, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Insight from work – a basic understanding of data and statistics…..how it’s useful and how it’s dangerous…..they actually only seem aware of the how it’s dangerous

Greinke – My heart says #3, my brain says around #20

Time traveler – I would say….damn, I was afraid of that.

Worst album – DMX Hell is Hot….I bought the edited version by mistake….essentially the entire disk was edited with mutes of the curse words.

Expensive Meal – Some Brazilian Churascarra in Manhattan…I think 59.50 plus drinks.

Worst Wedding – Every single one of my mom’s.

Turning Kool-Aid to Jesus Juice since 2009.

by Discodave on Dec 15, 2009 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Yikes, how many were there?

(if that’s not too personal a question)

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Dec 15, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My turn

I’m not in the mood to answer non-baseball, so 4,5,6 are out.

1) I’m an accountant, so there where to begin? There are so many things this organization could learn from basic accounting, that I’m too depressed to list them all.

2) This is a combination of production and my own personal “fandom” for the players, but I’d put Greinke 10th right now – and he could easily move to 2nd in another season or two. I have Brett, A.O., White, Sabes, McRae, Ape, Quiz, Big John, and Cone ahead of him at this point. (If this was purely on “fandom” alone, I think he might already be 2nd and closing on Brett)

3) If it weren’t illegal and immoral, and I was rich enough to afford it, and I was assured of never getting caught, I’d hire a hitman to take care of our ownership problem. (Wow, that reads horrible. Of course, I’m kidding. (mostly)).

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Dec 15, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

1.I’m in Grad School…maybe they should all drink more?
2. 2009 was my first season with this franchise…so #2 after Gil Meche
3. I wasn’t a fan in 1999!
4. Yes- Tales from Topographic Oceans (and they’re my favorite band)
5. £20
6. The last one I attended!

by EnglishRoyals on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, come on.

I own hundreds of CDs worse than Tales.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Dec 15, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t mind it..but I just found it hard to get into. Close to the Edge & Relayer are much better!

by EnglishRoyals on Dec 16, 2009 6:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I should be writing a paper...

 1. The insight that I have from my job is that even though someone may make more than you, they don’t necessarily know more than you… i.e. The sabermatrician/janitor/coffee jockey/copy boy may know more about good player acquisitions than GMDM himself

2. To be completely honest my historical perspective of Royals isn’t the best, and Ive decided Im going to projcet that Greinke gets awesomer… So I will say when its all said and done Top 5

3. I would have made fun of the “crazy time traveler guy” and then throw rocks at the guy

4. I haven’t actually bought a cd/tape/minidisc in so long I can’t remember the last bad one I got.

5. When I was young my Parents took me to Disney World and we ate at the Restaurant under the sea, they had splurged for the “Mickey Pass” which is just when all your meals are pre-paid. Well the bill was $400 (back in 91) and i was allowed to swipe the Mickey card… And if that one doesn’t count, I had a job interview in Texas a couple weeks ago and was put up in a pretty kick ass hotel with a pretty fantastic steak house at the top… Well the night before the interview I treated myself to a steak and a beer… Cost me $67.

6. If I have been to any awful weddings I wouldn’t remember because I tend to get pretty smashed at the receptions.

What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?
What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?
What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

I just rememberd...

That I bought a Tag Team album, the one with “Whoomp There it Is” Surprisingly that was the best song on there by far.

You really should get professional help. Your obsession with ND football is not healthy. ---Dr. lookingdeadred

by averagegatsby on Dec 15, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hhhheeeere goes

1. Ok, the first thing is cost benefit analysis. As an IE, i have to shove this down everyone’s throats all day. Things like optimization, “process” haha, and standards too. There is a best way, you just have to find it. That being said your mind usually isn’t capable of taking all the variables into account and computer programs are the only way to go. People have a hard time accepting that they are not capable though.

To steal from Top Ramen, never say “it was here when I got here” or “we’ve been doing it this way for 30 years”. Don’t confuse experience with knowledge/intelligence boys, it can get you in trouble.

If you have a way that things work best, do them that way. I get “this is the way I do it” all day from operators who are slowing the line.
2. I started being a fan in 1991, so since I’ve been around we have the tail ends of Brett and White, and the tenures of Sweeney, Beltran, Randa. (I always liked randa) Who else Appier? Cone? He’s gotta be top 5.

3. I’ve been a big fan since 1991, so I guess I assumed it would be like this. I’ve never known winning. I figured we would have a Rays/Marlins “run” by now, but I’ve never expected us to be consistently good. Other teams have better tools than we do, so we should never been consistently better, as they should be able to implement our superior processes with their better tools and overtake us again. (I’m a nerdy IE, sorry for the lingo)

4. I got Hanson’s album sometime in the 1990’s as a gift. Terrible, it was used as a frisbee at some point, just like how I used all those free AOL cd’s.

5. When i was a sophomore in high school, my date ordered the shrimp and lobster at the Hereford House. I was pretty pissed at the time, but it ended up being really funny and one of my best moments of high school. A couple of years later at graduation her dad came up to me, said he was sorry, patted me on the back and laughed at her. Great.
It was something like 50 for her meal and 25 or 30 for mine.
6. Weddings with loser dj’s suck. I guess the worst wedding I’ve been to really wasn’t that bad at all, but unfortunately I got cut off by my mother at the open bar because she saw me holding 2 beers. One of which was for the bride, (she didn’t want to wait in line and i was being nice) but she didn’t believe me. haha

At least Wally Joyner's not on the team....

by tcon125 on Dec 15, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions  

These threads are fun, I love reading what other people say...

   1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn? Prayer doesn’t always produce immediate results.
   
2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time? It depends. If we are talking about achievements over the length of a full career, Greinke still has a ways to go. But if we are talking about sheer dominance for any length of time, Greinke is easily in the top ten, maybe top five.
  
3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted? By wearing black

   4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought? Hanson’s Christmas album. I kid you not.

   5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for? My girlfriend and I recently had dinner at Aqua, a fine-dining restaurant in San Francisco, to celebrate our anniversary. We both ordered from the $75 three-course menu and shared a bottle of Viognier. After tax and tip, the meal was ~$250.
  
 6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended? I haven’t really ever attended an awful wedding. Such a disappointing answer, I know.

by DarthYoshi on Dec 15, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm.

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
Straight from the math curriculum——Negative + Negative does not equal a Positive. Or in the Royals’ case, Negative + Negative + Negative + Negative +……

   
2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time? Top 20 maybe? He’s got more time to go.
  
3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted? Not too surprised….we’d been bad, ownership/management was in disarray, etc.

   4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought? I was sent a Tori Amos & Kid Rock CD from Columbia House that I sold/gave away/buried until piles of garbage in my room.

   5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for? Great question. I honestly can’t remember anything over $15….and those are pizzas. How lame is that?
  
 6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended? The one where the poor ring bearer guy kept falling flat on his face over and over and over every time he tried to take a step. He was just learning to walk, apparently. On second thought, that might be the funniest wedding I’ve ever attended.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Wait

Tori Amos AND Kid Rock doing duets?

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by RoyalsRetro on Dec 16, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

I’d like clarification of this.

by hippdoghipp on Dec 16, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

no, sorry. separate but equally bad.

although a duet would be epic.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Dec 16, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, let's give this a try

1. Is there any insight or practice from your job that you wish the Royals would learn?
Peer-review is an amazing thing, oh, and making decisions based on Data gathered previously, not watching something and making a guess

2. Where do you put Greinke on the list of the Greatest Royals of all time?
Top 30, but let’s wait and see what he can continue to do, he can easily get up to the top 10 if he can string a couple more good seasons

3. In 1999 a time traveler tells you what the next ten years of Royals baseball would be like. How would you have reacted?
Is this time traveler one Keanu Reeves? If he was, I’d be pissed off. But I guess it wouldn’t change the fact that I am a Royals fan, or the fact that after punching Keanu in the face I would still do the air guitar for Wild Stallionz

4. What is the worst album/tape/CD/minidisk you ever bought?

Snapcase………ugh

5. What is the most expensive meal, per person/plate, you’ve ever paid for?

El Gaucho in Bell-town, Seattle. 210.00 for two. Of course there was the mandatory bottle of Pinot Nior that comes with having steaks with Mrs. MVPRoC. So take the bottle out and it would be knocked down around where most people are at. It was a steak on par with Grand Street, or Plaza III, or even some of the Montana steakhouses I’ve been too, like the Oasis.

6. What is the worst wedding you’ve ever attended?

Long time ago a wedding for my then gfs, best guy friend. Whom all thought would marry my gf at the time…..it was awkward to say the least. But……other than that, they have all had there moments of ‘really?’ to differing degrees.

Hey, it’s gonna happen when something as complicated as all the plans that are required for a wedding run, need to come together with a large number of people that may or may not like each other.

Will Ebners Hit Parade, Pain TV; Channel 32; All the time! (PDT)

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Dec 16, 2009 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

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