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Mellinger is on the right track here. I concur with his observation that McClure might be the guy to help. I mean, this is the kind of stuff Dave Duncan and the Cards take advantage of. Normally the Cubs take advantage with Rothschild being their pitching guru. But one man's guru is another man's bad fit. What's the downside for KC? - TL

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Rich Hill has been a disaster

Not just during the season but during winter ball as well.
I wouldn’t mind a trade for him and would probably actually like it but jeeze. I wouldn’t expect him to miraculously pitch like its 2007

by Royal from Queens on Feb 1, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Nobody's expecting...

…a miracle. It’s rather a risk that has great upside and little cost. – TL

by timlacy on Feb 1, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you're right

I’d rather have him pitching than Horacio Ramirez.
But I guess it’s all moot point now…

by Royal from Queens on Feb 2, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

we don't have any bad players worth trading

Dayton moore has been that good

by royalsreview on Feb 1, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

There is always filler type players

I don’t care how good your farm team is everyone has some filler players. I agree Dayton has been good but not that good.

by TXroyal on Feb 1, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Guys that could be traded?

Mitch Maier, John Buck, Miguel Olivo, ehh that’s pretty much it, other than minor leaguers.
I personally don’t think either of those guys gets it done for Hill. But who knows…

by Royal from Queens on Feb 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Guys

I think RR forgot to say:

/sarcasm

meat

by kabrink on Feb 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No risk no reward

Besides Hill cant be any worse that Jimmy Gobble was last year.

by ezstreat on Feb 1, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Did you...

…read the article? Hill has had some great moments in the Bigs. There’s no question that there’s a potential reward here. – TL

by timlacy on Feb 1, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he doesn't have any options left...

we’d never be able to send him down!

That's why we play the season on paper.

by 306008 on Feb 1, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Precisely.

That’s the risk part. – TL

by timlacy on Feb 1, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good players with psychological issues...

the new market inefficiency?

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it."
I'm puffing away, Hal.

by Sweep_the_Leg on Feb 1, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

worked for carlos quentin

by royalsreview on Feb 1, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

worked for the Nats

Elijah Dukes

by RATW on Feb 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Paid off with Greinke

by Royal from Queens on Feb 1, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

+100

That’s pretty much right on target. We did it with one; can we handle another? – TL

by timlacy on Feb 1, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

nope

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by doublestix on Feb 1, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, what?

I thought Quentin’s “problem” in ARI was that he kept getting hirt. That and their usually-savvy GM decided Eric Byrynes was a better investement..

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by devil_fingers on Feb 1, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yep

it was all about injuries for him. nothing psychological about it.

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by doublestix on Feb 2, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Amen brother

I saw something that said they were counting on HoRam to make the rotation just because he’s a lefty. Hill would be a much better choice.

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by royaldaddy on Feb 1, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

+1

Again, the upside is way high here. The guy needs out of the pressure cooker that is Chicago. And we did this at least once before (e.g. Knoblauch). – TL

by timlacy on Feb 1, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ummm

Knoblauch was terrible and did not switch back to 2B in KC. However, I do like the idea of trying with Rich Hill because he’s still young.

by BrRoyal on Feb 1, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Looks like the Orioles are gonna lock Hill down tomorrow

according MLTR.com

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Feb 2, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Trade him for a PTBNL

If he never turns it around, the Cubs get a fringe prospect. If he becomes an okay reliever, they get a decent prospect. If he becomes genuinely good, they get a good prospect.

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by NYRoyal on Feb 2, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Predict the minor leaguer!

I say Aaron Hartsock!

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 2, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hill for Haltiwanger, straight up

It would hurt, but I’d do it.

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by NYRoyal on Feb 2, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mantranga is a deal-breaker, though

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by devil_fingers on Feb 2, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We lost Matranga in the Pujols deal yesterday.

Oh that does feel good. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Feb 2, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs