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I've never been more annoyed at this weasel of a man. And that's saying something.

Mr. Power Trip wants to do everything to Alex Rodriguez to punishment. Oh by the way, he hates Bonds.

Hey, guys, pleeeease remember me as the commissioner who hates steroids!

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benefitted from PEDs more than did Buddy Selig. He’s a complete ass.

Feb 13!!

by kabrink on Feb 12, 2009 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

What makes you say that?

Seriously, how the heck did they benefit him? Just by “creating” the home run race between Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire?

Baseball is a popular sport. It will always be a popular sport, at least in our lifetimes. It didn’t take a particular home run race to make it popular again after the 1994 strike.

Selig has instituted quite a few marketing initiatives that have helped MLB quite a bit. I’m betting that baseball’s ahead-of-the-curve thinking on internet presence has made tons more revenue for baseball than anything that can be even remotely linked to steroids.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Feb 12, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

There were some red flags I think

But baseball looked the other way. I don’t think they created this mess, but they could have done more to stop it, and instead they were too busy counting their money IMO.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Like the Mark McGwire appearance on the Simpsons

Where he (now ironically) stated “do you want to know the horrifying truth? Or do you want to see me hit some dingers?”

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And what exactly were they going to do

in the absence of any agreement with the union to a drug-testing regimen? They had already long since made a rule against it.

The union was so in denial of player steroid usage (even after a slew of admissions from, for example, Ken Caminiti) that they didn’t agree to testing without that “anonymous” (but no longer, at least for A-Rod) body fluid survey to prove that the problem existed in the first place.

Should the owners/commissioner’s office have made that a bigger priority in prior barganing agreement negotiations? That’s about as much as I can see as far as blame can go.

Bottom line is, the players who did the drugs dug the pit for themselves. It wasn’t the owners who introduced them to the steroid pushers (with the possible exception of Radomski, who plied his trade out of the Mets’ clubhouse). It wasn’t any owner who wrote a tell-all book naming steroid users they had long known about but kept to themselves until they could make money off the revelations. The players were tight-knit little fraternity who were keeping each others’ secrets (until Jose Canseco decided “dough before bros”) and there wasn’t a lot the owners could legally do to investigate it or stop it.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Feb 12, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

They could have

Tried to negotiate with the union for some drug testing, and if the union balked, then they balk. But it doesn’t look like they even tried to do that.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

I didn’t watch one baseball game in between the strike years and Mark Mcgwire’s record breaking homerun

by GobbleforCyoung on Feb 12, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m betting that baseball’s ahead-of-the-curve thinking on internet presence has made tons more revenue for baseball than anything that can be even remotely linked to steroids.

That was Reinsdorf’s initiative, not Selig’s.

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Selig might not have initiated it

but he was the commissioner under whom it happened.

Kind of like the steroid thing, interestingly.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Feb 12, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The commissioner works for the owners; the owners aren’t “under” the commissioner.

Now it’s true that in establishing the office of commissioner the owners granted fairly broad powers to act “in the best interests of baseball”, and some commissioners in the past have used those powers to oppose the owners on various issues. But the whole purpose of deposing Vincent and installing an owner in the commissioner’s chair was to eliminate opposition of that sort.

Bud’s just a spear carrier. Reinsdorf’s the warmonger.

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't mean "under"

as to imply that the owners are subordinate. I mean it happened while they acted under his leadership/coordination/figureheadhood.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Feb 12, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe the audacity

Of Rangers owner Tom Hicks. I’m appalled at his mock outrage.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

yeah, that was the worst part about the whole thing

does he really want to remind everyone that he was the idiot that signed that contract while bidding against himself?

Yes, I’m still talking about Hicks and A-Rod, dammit, not Dayton Moore!

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 12, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh!

Stop insulting weasals! Comparing them to Selig? PETW (People for the Ethical Treatment of Weasals) may be serving you with a lawsuit soon!

Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!

by loyal2sdad on Feb 12, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

So let me get this straight

Bud wants to punish A-Rod for…what exactly? He can’t punish him for using steroids since MLB and the union AGREED that the testing was secret and not subject to punishment. So he’s punishing A-Rod for telling the truth – that he did steroids?

As for tinkering with the record book that sounds like the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. But at least we can hope this results in Farnsworth’s ERA going down and making the signing look better.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

While that record book is open for changes, I’d like to put the 1977 ALCS up for review. If Bonds can be denied the record despite what happened on the field, then let’s get to work, because it’ll be open season on the past.

What else needs a rework?

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Royals 1989 AL Western Division title

Mac and Canseco were on the juice. Royals win the title. I want a rematch against the Jays. Bring back George Brett and Fred McGriff and let’s re-play this thing.

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be excellent. After they get past the Blue Jays for the second time in 5 seasons, we have a Royals/Giants World Series.

No repeat on the earthquake, please.

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If I ever inherit a billion dollars, like in Brewsters Millions

I would seriously make this happen

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a very good plan.

I was at this game that year in Oakland, one of the best I’ve ever seen there. Not only a see-saw Royals win in extra innings after tying it up in the 9th, with a Brett HR, but — bonus! — no Canseco.

However, McGwire hit a 3-run homer and drove in 5 overall, so if we apply the Selig-proposed McGwire correction factor, Royals win in regulation.

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we're meeting Selig's mock outrage with enough mock outrage of our own

Selig is at a 9. This thread is only at a 7, 7.5 tops. We need more faux outrage!

The immoderate moderator

by Scott McKinney on Feb 12, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

There oughta be a law!!

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 12, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty sleazy that Selig and ownership are pretending to be the guardians of the game while denying responsibility for what happened.

But, even sleazier, they’re double-dipping on benefits from PEDs use.

1) The offensive explosion of the ‘90s, which supposedly was fueled by PEDs, drew in paying customers, TV viewership, etc., increasing their revenues, increasing the value of future TV contracts (such as the current one), and so on. Bud claims he didn’t know personally that there was a problem with PEDs until 1996, while the ownership as a group, for whom Bud works, proudly points to the anti-steroids policy that was in place in the form of Vincent’s memo of 1991.

2) They’re quite shamelessly using the public’s reaction to PEDs disclosures as leverage in their ongoing war with labor. Of course Bud isn’t going to discipline A-Rod; he clearly has no authority to do so. But that won’t stop him from giving an interview to USA Today that allows him to cast himself in the role of protector of all that’s good and holy from the depredations of the dirty rotten players.

So, is that enough faux outrage? Probably not; too genuine.

by 2X2L on Feb 12, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, Bud took a 3 million dollar loan from another owner back in 1995.

Without the permission of the other owners, breaking one of the few rules owners have for each other. Then later suggested helping the owner(Carl Pohlad) receive above market value to eliminate his franchise.

by hunter s. royal on Feb 12, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

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