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The Bravest Way to Sign, Not Sign, Ken Griffey Jr.

What the hell is going on with the signing, non-signing of Griffey? My tendency is to blame the player for sending mixed messages, but the Braves have a track record of being well, fairly weird and crazy with these things as well. In two days Griffey will either be a Brave or we'll probably be reading about how his agent is the devil and that the Braves just won't deal with him anymore. How snubbing of them. Huzza!

Then there's this, from Lookout Landing,

As it turns out, the Atlanta Braves are run by crazy persons. For some reason they've decided not only that Griffey can still hit and play a full season without tripping over a puppy and impaling both thighs on a pair of socks, they think he's capable of playing the field. Some reports are hinting that they're hopeful that he can play centre field on occasion.

Frankly, you can't come to that conclusion without being totally insane. The only way he's comparable to any of the outfielders currently on the roster is if you forced everyone else to wear blindfolds and filled their shoes with burning coals, and even if he was, he'd be more likely to be injured if he was forced to gambol about chasing pop flies down in a corner.

 

I realize there are conflicting reports on what the Braves would possibly like to do with Griffey, but I couldn't pass up the quote above.

 

Go Braves Go.

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Since Moore took over, there’s been these residual anti-Braves sentiments here at RR. I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with much of it, I just don’t completely understand it. Can someone clue me in? I’d also like to know how much turnover has taken place since their dynastic run of 1991-2004. Schuerholz is still in the organization, I know….

As for the contents of this post, what is the UZR for Griffey in the field? He would have obviously fit better as a D.H. $2MM or so still seems a little steep for those services. .250/.340/.430 is likely, I think. Coupled with poor COF defense….that’s probably at or near replacement level. I understand some resentment might still lie in that Mariners’ fanbase after failing to land a potential attendance attraction hitter-only.

Still…this strange anti-Braves sentiment. I’m a confused panda.

The Nation at large. I'll be playing the role of RR Resident Optimist this offseason. What role will you assume?

by Royals Nation on Feb 17, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

Schaum constantly bringing up the "Braves way,"

which lately, seems to mean “losing more games every season” and “bumbling negotations” and “pretending Jeff Francoeur is good, when average would be a miracle”

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

addendum

“trading for casey kotchman”

by wildthang on Feb 17, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

I actually think that Kotchman will be Okay. Kotchman can hit like an average 1B, but he’s also a good glove — yes, even at first that matters. I mean, not for the Royals, but for everyone else. And he really is a good glove, not a crappy hitter who somehow got that label because of a noodle bat.

So he’s probably at leat an average player, with above-average upside.

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

true enough

I was just remarking on Kotchman

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 18, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

god...

i cannot even imagine how pissed i’d be if i were a braves fan right now…they still have an awesome farm system with trading away like 5 of the top guys. They could very easily be set for the next 7-8 years with what would be in that system

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

the problem started with losing Dayton Moore, obviously

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by Matt Klaassen on Feb 19, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

funny how that works...

him leaving became a problem for them and him coming became a problem for me

TPJ...you're dead to me

by billybeingbilly on Feb 19, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Griffey UZR in CF

2002; -3.2
2003: -2.7
2004: -21.6
2005: -19.9
2006: -24.0
2007: -30.4 (in RF)
2008: -1.8 (in CF) -11.6 in RF

by Freneau on Feb 17, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

ouch

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Feb 17, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If he goes to the Braves

that pretty much guarantees that he’ll be on the Royals next in 2 or 3 years. Braves AND Grass Creek??

Desperately Seeking Soria (Subliminally encouraging Trey to "Think Leverage, you can do it, Leverage")

by kabrink on Feb 17, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

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