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The Dream Is Alive: BP Predicts Miguel Olivo WILL Hit Double-Digits in Walks in '09!

Sure, his .240/.273/.401 projected line will also come out to a negative VORP, but the critics just can't point to Olivo and say Dayton Moore has an OBP blinspot.

 

Star-divide

Nope, PECOTA has him pegged as a 10-walk man in '09. Sure, Olivo only drew seven free passes in '08, and with numbers so low a three-walk increase does represent a huge jump, but there's no reason to not be hopeful here.

 

Miguel Olivo

#21 / Catcher / Kansas City Royals

6-0

220

R

R

Jul 15, 1978


You see, that smiling man above has a track record: 8 walks in '05, 9 in '06, 14 in '07, and 7 in '08.

And when Miguel draws that 10th walk on the season, in a meaningless early September game, I will stand up in my utility room and loudly clap.

 

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Much ado about...

I know we delve into minutia here frequently and there’s nothing wrong with that. But of all of the PECOTA projections to highlight, why choose Olivo? I’m not saying why choose a bad player; I’m saying why choose probably the least interesting player on the team? We know Olivo is a low-OBP catcher with some power. That’s about it. The projection was anything but a surprise to you, me or anybody. Is this just another Moore-acquired-a-bad-player opportunity? That’s cool, but is there much to say in that regard at this point?

I don’t know. I guess some guys still like Olivo and think he’s better than Buck. I guess offense doesn’t matter to them. It just didn’t seem like this post was about a real evaluation of Olivo. It seems like just another “Moore doesn’t get OBP” post with a walks fetish thrown in.

I don’t want to come off as a malcontent. But I don’t know that repetitive snarky posts about obviously bad players have much entertainment or analytical value. We could do whole posts on the Farnsworth and Bloomquist PECOTA projections too. But to what end?

Just my two cents.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 7:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

He is what we thought he was. You want to crown his ass? Crown his ass!

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how it came to pass

I was looking through the pecota spreadsheet, saw miguel’s total

honestly, i did not realize his walks totals were that low

i knew he was horrible and impatient, but i didn’t know he was a single-digit walks man, which really is horrible

by royalsreview on Feb 4, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really suprised at the put down.

I thought the post was pretty much par for the course for this site.

by kmartin on Feb 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yay hyperbole

Awesome post. You know when something is really really clever, man it just never get’s old. Thanks for contributing something of value.

by sfeldkamp on Feb 4, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Much ado about (something different)...

It’s the offseason. Not much is going on except for some FA signings and some arbitration near-misses. To be honest, I don’t see how it’s so off-putting to have some self-deprecating, dry humor on the site. Or even lots of it. This is clearly not the kind of blog that indulges in back-patting cheerleading ad nauseum. And there is at least one thoughtful, analytical post (and usually more) for every hyperbolic faux-mocking post.

I don’t think it makes much more sense to complain about a post like this than it does to come on here and say “This stupid analysis of sabermetric stats and predictions and in-depth discussion of players’ potential is, like, so weak and tired, man. Get over it and enjoy the grit of the game!”

There’s a fine line between complaining and laughing at ourselves… and while some of the Bloomquist discussion may straddle that line, I think that things like this are so far from the line that (insert bad math joke here).

by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on Feb 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think that things like this are so far from the line that...

….it is impossible to even see from your mom’s basement!

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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...

In Soviet Russia, mother lives in your basement!

(OK, I read too much Slashdot.)

by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on Feb 4, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

exactly, isn't this the point of the internet
I don’t think it makes much more sense to complain about a post like this than it does to come on here and say "This stupid analysis of sabermetric stats and predictions and in-depth discussion of players’ potential is, like, so weak and tired, man. Get over it and enjoy the grit of the game!"

by royalsreview on Feb 4, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this isn't Russia

Is this Russia?

Feb 13!!

by kabrink on Feb 4, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know my calculus

and you + me = us

2Gether Forever.

by ajblobaum on Feb 4, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And we will celebrate the 10th walk

with the adding of chocolate to milk

by Top Ramen on Feb 4, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope they set off fireworks

like they did for the Mighty Quinn when his BB-free AB streak came to an end. intentional or not, that was priceless.

Jayhawk baseball - a tradition since Steve Jeltz

by JayhawkTom on Feb 4, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

K's, not AB's

I think that’s a minimum of 500 K’s, not 500 AB’s.

by wentToARoyalsGameBeforeRR on Feb 4, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh ya my bad

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on Feb 5, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I assume this is in thier annual?

I can’t find the PECOTA projections on-line. D’oh. Ithought I got those as a subscriber.

The funny thing is that Olivo ends up with a negative VORP, despite one of VORP’s more obvious flaws being it’s undervaluation of walks.

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by devil_fingers on Feb 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ah, thanks

I take it the player cards aren’t going to be up for a while…

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by devil_fingers on Feb 4, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey, at least Gordon's comparables are heartening

Pat Burrell, Eric Chavez, Troy Glaus, Darrell Evans

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by devil_fingers on Feb 4, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, talk to Nate, not me

Those are the comparables. They’re done by size as well as age and stats

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by devil_fingers on Feb 4, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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