Kevin Seitzer: Hitting Hero
If you've ever attended a baseball game, you're familiar with the crack of a bat. If you've ever seen Barry Bonds blast a long home run, you're familiar with the sound that an especially well-struck ball makes. Kevin Seitzer spent 11 years of his life playing for several major league teams, producing that exact sound for fans in the stands. He made his name spraying balls all over the diamond with his even, steady, professional swing, making friends with a bright smile and easygoing demeanor. I had the chance to catch up with Kevin this past week, get his thoughts on life, the game of baseball, and what he is going to do to help out the young Diamondback hitters.
"When I was 15," Seitzer told me while walking toward the practice field, "My pops always got on my case. See, when I was a kid I had no patience, I wanted to hack, I wanted to crush every pitch - but one day after practice, he pulled me aside, and he told me, do you know what he told me?" - he was grinning, so I shook my head no.
"Well, I'll tell ya what, he told me that there is always going to be another pitch. I was 15, and sort of a dumb kid, so at the time that made a lot of sense to me. Always another pitch. Well, until I struck out looking damn near 3 times in the first game of the season the next day!". With this, the man referred to by friends as 'Kev', or 'The Seitz' let out a booming laugh, and I was left wondering what exactly he was talking about.
If you spend a little bit of time with Kevin Seitzer, you start to realize he doesn't necessarily make sense. Not like a normal person makes sense, at least. Something about him, is different, maybe he is just a touch off, perhaps best described as 2 degrees away from normalcy. Then again, the great ones are never normal, and Kevin Seitzer was certainly a great hitter. According to the kids he works with at his Mac-N-Seitz baseball academy in Kansas City, he's apparently also a great teacher, something the Diamondbacks hope will carry over well to the major league level.
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"Scouts."
One word, and lengthy eye contact was at first all 'The Seitz' gave me for an answer when I asked him what was preventing most kids in the minors from making it to the big leagues.
"Let me tell you what, when I was in the minor leagues, I had an A-ball season where I got on base damn near half the time. Now, this was back in the day, this was the 1980's, Madonna was still cool, so was batting average. I hit about .310 that half season, and do you know what a scout told me?"
Kevin likes to speak like this. In my time with him he spoke mostly in questions, ones that he had the answer to. So I told the Yoda of hitting, that no, no I did not know.
"The scout, he told me I should walk less. Because, if I walked less, I'd swing at more pitches, and then I would probably hit .350 instead of .310. Soon as I got promoted to AA, I did just that. Hit probably about 30 points better, but my on base percentage stayed the same, I realized this after the season, and I went back to how I did it before, do you know why?"
Once again, I shook my head no.
"Because," he said with a huge grin, "When it comes to work, I don't like doing it if I don't have to. Conservation of energy and all that stuff, there is a finite amount in our lil' tiny universe. So if I could get on base the same percentage without swinging the bat and relying on the ball finding a hole, why would I swing the bat?".
This, this is the genius of Kevin Seitzer.
*
"Hell no! I always hated the inside pitch!", was the emphatic reaction from 'The Seitz', accompanied by a clenched fist pounding the table.
You see, Kevin Seitzer doesn't like the inside pitch. He never did. Well, at least not to hit. If Kevin Seitzer were a pitcher, he would only throw inside pitches, at least that's what he told me during our lunch together. So, what if the hitters started pulling the inside pitches he would repeatedly throw?
"I'd throw harder," Kevin told me with a knowing chuckle, "Maybe crank it up to 110, 115. That's miles per hour in case you don't understand how I roll, because there is nothing more painful than breaking a bat. I remember, when I first came up, I would rather get hit by a pitch than break a bat, I'd have rather fallen flat on my butt, or pulled a George (Brett) and sprung some hemorrhoids. Bats weren't cheap, and when you're making the league minimum, you'd definitely rather lean into the pitch and take one for the on base percentage than break your bat. For every bat I broke, that was a nice steak I could be eating, and I love a good steak. Not to mention, then I would have to have a bat funeral, which was always an ordeal-"
Wait a minute. Bat funeral?
"Well yeah...." he continued with a sheepish grin, "I always had bat funerals. In Kansas City, me and Bo (Jackson) would bury a hell of a lot of bats. At one point in time my back yard had no grass left in it thanks to all the bats we had buried. For some reason, the bats did not encourage new foilage growth. They sure did help the hits keep coming though."
Once again, the genius of Kevin Seitzer.
*
Of course, the anecdotes are nice. They are fun playful reminders that even a professional hitter, and now hitting instructor is a human being. They do not however, explain what Kevin Seitzer is going to do to help the Diamondbacks as a team.
"Help them as a team?", he retorted while lighting up with excitement, "I am a team player. Kevin Seitzer is a team player. I get the job done, bar none, hands down," he told me, speaking more and more rapidly. "I look at this way, I look at it as the Diamondbacks have hired me to lead their offense to the promised land, and I'm Noah. I'm going to strap on my sandals, and lead them through this desert. We are going to get there, and we are going to win. That's it. That's how I help this team. You know, they say you can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink, well that's where I come in. I'm going to have the horses drinking, and I'll be damned if they don't like it."
Small errors in his Biblical reference aside, I had to admire the man's enthusiasm.
"I look at this job as, I will have it forever," he continued, "this job is eternally mine, as long as I do it well. I'm going to bust my butt to the degree that they will have no choice but to keep me on. We are going to succeed. Give me a number one offense, or give me a cooler full of light beer after the game."
I also had to admire his flair for the dramatic. Hopefully, 'The Seitz' can bring some excitement, and drama to Chase Field this season - and maybe even a number one offense.
*
"Cheesecake. I would go into that clubhouse, and there would be guys eating cheesecake. I love a good piece of cheesecake, but I never wanted to play on a cheesecake team, you know what I'm saying? There were a couple guys in that clubhouse, not to name any names, that had a cheesecake fetish. Well, I wanted to play on a polish sausage team, because I'm a grinder. I get out there, get dirty, well I did, and that's how I want my guys to play. We need to play the game the right way, and leave the cheesecake with the women and children. They can also have all the light beer. " - Kevin Seitzer on his time spent with the 1997 Cleveland Indians, and the approach he wants to see from his young players
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Great piece
I like the jokes about how much Seitzer is going to help the Royals hitters as much as the next guy (hitting coaches simply aren’t very important). But the good news is that Seitzer gets it. Good hitting is about waiting for your pitch and hitting it hard when it comes. If the pitcher doesn’t throw you strikes, take the Walk. If he can impart even a little of that philosophy to some Royals hitters, it will be a good thing. Will it amount to even half a win? Probably not, but at least they’ve got a good guy in that role.
“Let me tell you what, when I was in the minor leagues, I had an A-ball season where I got on base damn near half the time. Now, this was back in the day, this was the 1980’s, Madonna was still cool, so was batting average. I hit about .310 that half season, and do you know what a scout told me?”
“The scout, he told me I should walk less. Because, if I walked less, I’d swing at more pitches, and then I would probably hit .350 instead of .310. Soon as I got promoted to AA, I did just that. Hit probably about 30 points better, but my on base percentage stayed the same, I realized this after the season, and I went back to how I did it before.”
Seitzer remembered that pretty accurately.
1985 A+ .314/.466/.414 (290 AB)
1985 AA .348/.438/.417 (187 AB)
He got more aggressive and his BA went up, but his OBP actually went down and his SLG stayed flat. The hitting philosophy that scout represents is still alive. I was watching a White Sox-Twins game early last season and Ken Harrelson was talking about how the Twins coaches were trying to get newly acquired OFer Delmon Young to take more pitches and be more patient at the plate. This would appear to make sense given that Young had a .288 BA but only a .316 OBP in the prior season. Harrelson and his toady, Darren Jackson, agreed that trying to get a talented player like Young to be more patient was just “taking away his aggressiveness” which just kills a young hitter. Harrelson is a former player and GM who represents old school, traditional baseball orthodoxy which is still alive and well in the ranks of scouts and front office personnel. I’m glad at least the Royals hitting coach understands that you have to balance aggressiveness with patience.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 3:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
kcdan33: Your power numbers in 2008 were very impressive and will bring a lot to a Royals squad lacking in that area, but what have you worked on in the offseason to bump up your average and consistency?
Jacobs: Besides getting myself physically ready and working with Seitzer, I want to try to be a little more patient this year rather than try to do too much at the plate.
can’t imagine who was in his ear about that…heh.
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by doublestix on Feb 4, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Agreed, great piece, and for all the jokes, it is nice to have a hitting coach that gets it.
However, didn’t Jeff Pentland have a similar philosophy? I almost think this kind of tutelage would be better used at the rookie ball level rather than for our grizzled vets already set in their way.
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by RoyalsRetro on Feb 4, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's good to have coaches that "get it" throughout the organization
But yes I think hitting coaches do have more of an effect on young, inexperienced hitters than major leaguers. I don’t think hitting coaches actually change big league hitters very much. The Royals need an organizational instructional philosophy which stresses the balance between aggressiveness and patience in hitting, and they need to hire coaches that can follow and push that philosophy.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More to the point
I think they change hitters who want to change or recognize they need to change. Sosa was already an “established” big leaguer when Pentland got hold of him, and he did actually change Sammy’s approach effectively.
But if a guy’s stubborn and doesn’t think there’s really anything wrong with his approach, or thinks the hitting coach is full of shit… it won’t matter.
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by jonfmorse on Feb 4, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and those are the guys that don't make it much longer
Even tiger woods changed his swing while he was at the top of the game!
That's why we play the season on paper.
by 306008 on Feb 8, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this post a copyrighted piece?
It was obviously written some time ago, when Seitz was about to embark on the D-Backs job rather than on a Royals job, so it wasn’t written as a post original for today.
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by cmkeller on Feb 4, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
haha, no!
I wrote this interview as a joke, the whole thing is tongue in cheek. I thought the last “quote” would make the seriousness, or lack thereof, pretty obvious. Guess I went too subtle. There are quite a few RoyalsReview “inside jokes” though.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Feb 4, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
This seemed on the edge, but does anyone know if he really does communicate via questions? Is he an unorthodox communicator? – TL
by timlacy on Feb 4, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was my big concern
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for Seitzer and giving him a chance here. I won’t utter the last guy’s name but glad he’s gone.
However, when I read this post I was more horrified than optimistic. Even if he can hit and has the right philosophy it sure doesn’t sound like he would be able to effectively communicate it to anyone.
So, the whole this is fake, RIGHT? Hopefully.
Feb 13!!
by kabrink on Feb 4, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The interview is fake
The communication style is fake. But the basic underlying facts are true (about scouts, stats, aggressiveness and patience).
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
woo hoo!
aggressiveness and patience is an interesting pairing there. That’s a tricky balance.
Feb 13!!
by kabrink on Feb 4, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And that balance is the key to good hitting
You have to be patient, but you can’t be so selective at the plate that you let hittable pitches go by you and get yourself behind in the count, thus decreasing your chance of getting a good pitch to hit. And you have to be aggressive, but not so much so that you’re swinging at anything near the plate. The right balance of patience and aggressiveness is what makes for good hitting.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed!
Hopefully, Seitz can Seitzematic™ Guillen, Olivo, Teahen, Gordon, Crisp, and Jacobs into shape! Geez that’s a long list.
Feb 13!!
by kabrink on Feb 4, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not going to work magic on anybody
Hopefully he can help a few players a little and maybe get a bit more out of them. That’s about all one can reasonably hope for.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Working The
Magic, thank you; black cat bone? Check. Full moon? Check. Cemetary? Check. Midnight? Check. Mojo will be woikin’ in ’09.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 5, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chicken liver, check;
frog’s blood, check; crow’s eyes, check…
Feb 13!!
by kabrink on Feb 5, 2009 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Batting Coach Maxim: ...
… If each coach can teach similar skills, the only batting coaches that are not important are the ones who lack communication skills. Period.
So if most batting coaches are not important, it’s because the respective organization isn’t making an effort hire good ones who communicate well.
Seitzer’s unorthodox communication skills might be an acquired taste, but if he can get through to the young players, well, that’s all we need. – TL
by timlacy on Feb 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope it works
"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell
by buddyball on Feb 4, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think I made this too believable...
To be clear, this post is a parody of Seitzer’s “success” in Arizona, and the lofty hopes that Royals fans across the internet have thrown upon his back. I wrote this in 30 minutes last night while taking a break from math homework, it is supposed to be funny. It is a work of fiction, written solely for my amusement and your entertainment.
Carry on.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Feb 4, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, you completely fooled me
I thought it was the real deal.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty funny, I'm flattered.
The goal was to make it believable at the beginning, and have it slowly progress to the absurd.
realistically speaking
by slayor on Feb 4, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with NY
In other words…good shit, slayor. Thoroughly enjoyable shit.
WTF, self?
by minda33 on Feb 4, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, just use a "parody" or "satire" tag next time
Or put some more jokes up front.
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by NYRoyal on Feb 4, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also thought it was real
More Huber/Gload will Explode references would have perhaps sealed it for me.
by marbotty on Feb 5, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was skeptical
The use of all the swear words threw me. Kevin doesn’t swear.
by RaulDuke on Feb 8, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I Took This
As satire, but you guys had me convinced I was wrong.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Feb 4, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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