UNI Baseball
by grudz96 on Mar 1, 2009 6:57 PM EST
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The team and their supporters are giving it the old college try to raise $1,200,000.00 before April 12th, 2009. They have created a website to take pledges towards this total. http://supportunibaseball.com/ If you have a few spare coins rolling around in your pocket and want to help them out go online and make a pledge. Keep college baseball alive... if we could lose baseball at UNI we could lose it anywhere.
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they need a mega-donor
who can keep the program alive for more than a year
by royalsreview on Mar 1, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for posting this.
I threw in what I can afford. The thought occurred to me, a charity game at Wrigley Field. Cubs alumni vs. the UNI Panthers. $10 a ticket. Sell signed photos with an ex-Cub poising along with the UNI player who plays the same position. Just a thought, but I bet that event would bring in a nice pile of money.
For what it is worth, I bought a season ticket for Kansas Baseball last week. As a student I can sit in the bleachers for free, but with a season ticket I can sit in the front five rows in a seat with a back on it. I’ve been going to KU games for three years but always just found a seat in the bleachers. After seeing what happened to Vermont and Northern Iowa I went ahead and gave the team my $150. I figured I should support what was important to me.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 1, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
charity game against the Cubs?
You should get this guy to help:
by marbotty on Mar 2, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen him run the bases!
The guy runs like he is on fire!
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so they can go nuts and raise this money
and then disband next season?
I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me
by LeoBloom on Mar 1, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they raise $1.2M they are set for three years.
At which point maybe the funding situation will be better. Who knows.
If they raise $10M the university said the team will be set forever.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I sent the supportunibaseball link to
tips@deadspin.com in hopes that they’ll put it up tomorrow. Say what you will about Deadspin, but they have a LOT of readers. Hopefully they do something with it.
WTF, self?
by minda33 on Mar 1, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You go Minda!
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by James Quinn on Mar 1, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to be the devil's advocate
but they have exactly 4 players to ever have played MLB. Of those 4, 2 were mere footnotes in MLB history (1 IP, and 58 IP). The other 2 played in over 400 games each, but played at UNI in the early 60’s.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/schools/niowa.shtml
I know this sucks for the guys that are already there, but I’m sure the NCAA would give them exemptions to move on to other schools right away if the program is disbanded.
I wonder if the school is cutting a corresponding women’s sport? Fastest way to get the school to reinstate the program would be to sue under TItle IX.
by AxDxMx on Mar 1, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know this sucks for the guys that are already there, but I’m sure the NCAA would give them exemptions to move on to other schools right away if the program is disbanded.
yes, that has alreadybeen reported… their scholarships to UNI will also be honored
I wonder if the school is cutting a corresponding women’s sport? Fastest way to get the school to reinstate the program would be to sue under TItle IX.
despite what everyone says, it is unclear as to if this is some clandestine title ix issue or not
and hasn’t title ix been challenegd before?
by royalsreview on Mar 1, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Title IX basically said you had to have
a women’s sport for every men’s sport. Equality. If you cut a men’s program without cutting a women’s program, I would assume there would be an issue there. I’m not saying Title IX should be challenged. I’m saying that the men aren’t being treated equally if they didn’t cut a women’s sport.
by AxDxMx on Mar 2, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is more like schools have to give out similar amounts of athletic scholarships to men and women.
I don’t think the number of programs is the issue, it is one of access to higher education. Before Title IX men basically had an avenue to receive university scholarships that women did not. I think that was the main point, and it does make sense.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Title IX is based
upon scholarships not sports. That is why KU (as an example) has 4 men’s teams and 7 or 8 womens teams. Football’s 50 or so scholarships really suck up a lot.
I remember when Men’s wrestling, tennis, and diving programs were eliminated. Not a good scene.
The Snozberries taste like Snozberries
by labbadabba on Mar 2, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
College baseball is more than training for professional baseball.
Only a very small percentage of college baseball players go on to professional careers. They all know this. I expect that there are very few players on the UNI roster who are there because they think they are preparing for professional careers.
It’s just a baseball team. 35 kids who love the game and take it seriously. A few thousand fans. 33 home games in a town that will go quiet next year if the team dies. Love it for that. It doesn’t have to serve a larger purpose. Less baseball makes the world poorer.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 1, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
$1.2M for baseball in a down economy
makes the world poorer as well. Especially when they could play at another school without raising the money.
by AxDxMx on Mar 2, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And more to the point you took issue with
it’s not a program with history, they can’t support themselves, not many people will miss it. Basically, you’re raising money for about 40 players/coaches/trainers plus their fans. Your donations would do more good at real charities. But it is your choice.
What happens if they don’t raise the money, do you get a refund?
by AxDxMx on Mar 2, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Northern Iowa has been playing baseball since 1893, so the program has a long history.
Very few NCAA baseball programs can support themselves. There are probably 500-600 NCAA and NAIA baseball programs in the United States. I would be surprised if more than 40 of them support themselves. I’m sure the KU, K-State and Missouri teams all rely heavily on university funding as well. In the Big-12 probably only the Texas, Texas A&M and Baylor teams produce revenue. That is the nature of college baseball. It is there for the players, the fans, and the community. It is not a revenue sport.
My big fear is that a lot of colleges are going to cut baseball during the upcoming years. I think it would be a terrible shame. Lord knows the baseball teams didn’t cause this mess, and it will pass in a few years.
As you pointed out, donating money to the team can be seen as a chartable contribution. I’m happy to think of it that way. No need to feel presure to donate. If supporting college baseball isn’t your thing there it is.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point, but
I also see what a pain in the ass it would be for these kids to move to a different school. Sure, their scholarships would be honored, but what if there’s no room for them to actually play at their new schools?
People are not being forced to pay for this. Iowa taxpayers aren’t having to shell out emergency funding for it. The team is wisely using the internet to find generous people who are fortunate enough to have a little money to give right now. I can’t fault them for that.
WTF, self?
by minda33 on Mar 2, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and if they don't raise the money
no harm done. Right now they are collecting pledges – pledge now, pay later.
WTF, self?
by minda33 on Mar 2, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly.
I played ball at a non-D1 program and we all knew we weren’t getting drafted. But we were allowed to do the college thing while continuing to play baseball, loved every minute of it. Absolutely LOVED it.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
by Warden11 on Mar 2, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hi Warden,
Where did you play?
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UNI rationalization
“The elimination of UNI baseball is not directly related to Title IX. There would be no consideration of dropping a program if not for the pending budget cuts at a state and institutional level. However, given the economic conditions, compliance with federal laws such as Title IX was a consideration when assessing our programs.”
by RATW on Mar 2, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW,
NCAA baseball teams are limited to a maximum of 11.7 scholarships. I am not sure UNI’s program carries that many. I think softball carries more scholarships than does baseball.
When it comes to Title IX compliance football just kills all other men’s sports. D-I football takes 85 male scholarships.
If I had my way (which, by the way, never happens!) I would cut football scholarships down to 65, and take baseball up to 15, and use the rest for men’s soccer. I know, it will never happen. Scholarships follow the money.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea... no way UNI gives out 11 baseball scholarships
I would guess its more like 7 or 8
by royalsreview on Mar 2, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what they carry now,
but I did read that when their current coach arrived twenty years ago they only had one scholarship for the whole team.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does IAA football
carry the same amount of scholarships as Div I ?
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Mar 3, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No,
There are actually two D-IAA levels, although I don’t think they even go by the D-IAA name any longer.
One if for team that have scholarships. I don’t know how many they carry per team. The other is for team that do not award scholarships for football. I have no ideas why the NCAA seperates the D-IAA non-scholarship schools from D-III, but they do.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 3, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The total amount of pledges is now over $220K
It’s nice to see this level of support. Things like this fight my cynicism.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Minda, you are an angel.
I just know God is up there playing baseball, which I am sure he does farily often, and Quizenberry just let him know what you did.
www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage
by James Quinn on Mar 2, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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