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Tea Leaves: Ryan Shealy & Ross Gload

I had a brief moment of happiness last week when Dutton reported that Gload was battling for a roster spot. Sure, it had only taken the current leadership team two full years to realize that Gload was wasted space on the roster, but my life is sufficiently pathetic enough to overlook this emotionally. The Royals have done enough for Gload: they gave him the biggest contract of his career, and even threw a few extra hundred thousand his way when Hillman's constant playing of him snagged Rossy some bonus money. Down the road, the Royals have likely played Gload enough to make him "established" enough to earn another Major League gig as a bench guy, and a handful of future Spring Training invites.

Only I'm far from certain that we've seen the last of Gload. Instead, the only guaranteed thing looks to be Ryan Shealy not making the team. As for Gload, if Mark Teahen gets traded, just who do you think will slide into the fourth outfielder role?

Star-divide

Although spring training stats should be considered meaningless, playing time is another matter. Playing time and usage can be indicative of what the team is at least thinking about. Gload has played a lot this spring. As of Monday night, Gload had appeared in 10 games, snagging a pretty high for ST total of 24 plate appearances. Hillman is still sending Gload out there. Sometimes Gload's at first, sometimes he's in left, sometimes he's in right. All that matters is that Gload gets his regular burn. Because, because, well... nobody's ever really been able to figure that out. To date, Gload's earned more plate appearances than any Royals outfielder not named DeJesus or Crisp, while also eating into Shealy and Kila's playing time at first. What a great guy to have around! That's versatility, baby!

Look, I know a portion of Shane Costa's or Jose Duarte's or D-Rob's or heaven forbid Lubanski's playing time in early March is not a top of the page issue, but it is an issue that should at least be considered. Isn't the biggest benefit of livin' la vida Gloada that he's a known quantity? A venerable veteran of the highest grittiness and integrity that already knows how to do everything the right way ('cept hit)? So essentially, Hillman's continued playing of Gload is either just entirely pointless and without any upside (yay!) or it's worse, it's a sign of Gload-on-roster creep and something that's taking away from 1-2% of somebody else's development/practice/letting the guys in the sunglasses see him more time. Apparently, although Moore has realized that Gload is not a starting first-baseman, he may be part of the outfield. If Mark Teahen actually is traded, Gload's chances increase further.

(The decision to jettison German just keeps getting better, doesn't it?)

Meanwhile, despite some mid-winter delusions that a) Ryan Shealy could be a cheap and useful player and b) the Royals might have a place for him in some convoluted Jacobs/Butler/Shealy menage, it's now increasingly clear that Shealy -- who does not have an option left -- will be apartment hunting again soon. It's the last turn in the bizarre Royals career of Shealy, who went from supposedly brilliant pickup, to one of the worst players in baseball, to someone who didn't look so bad, to someone who was finally passed over for a more expensive and only marginally better player. Odd. In retrospect, the whole idea, which never really reached a coherent expression, but just bubbled under in the comments people would make and things we would wonder about, seems fairly insane. What's even more insane is that you could create a context in which Shealy is your defensive-sub guy at first and have it be borderline palatable. So, to those of us who sorta half-way thought about this possibility, when we consider how ultimately non-good Shealy really is (or is he?) we have to ask, is the joke on the Royals, or is it on us?

So in sum: Shealy is gone, Kila is headed to AAA, and Mike Jacobs will get to lead the team in outs made and doubles created for the opposition between his legs.I feel like the stupidest blogger in the world for even halfway thinking there was something to sort out. There wasn't. Ever.

Remember earlier in this post when I said I was pathetic? Well, in the face of eye-bleeding tedium, I went through every spring box score and noted how Shealy and Gload were used.

For your viewing pleasure:

Gload - Position (PAs) Shealy - Position (PAs)
2/25 LF (3) DH (1)
2/26 1B (1) - (1)
2/27 DNP 1B (3)
2/28 LF/1B (2) DH (2)
3/1 1B (2) DNP
3/2 DNP 1B (5)
3/3 RF (3) DH (2)
3/4 1B (3) DH (1)
3/6 1B (3) 1B (2)
3/7 RF (3) 1B (2)
3/8 DNP DH (4)
3/9 RF (2) 1B (0)

 

Look, I live in Washington D.C. I am a blogger and a middling one at that. The extent of my access is a few emails I've exchanged with guys that have it. So read more into something that Dutton or Kaegel seems to be hinting at regarding this sort of thing than anything I might say. That being said, I can't really understand where there's a clear line of evidence suggesting that Gload is on his way out.

The fanbase of the 29th most popular team in the sport anxiously awaits the fate of Rossy...

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Totally ridiculous

I agree with you. I just think they love this guy too much. Shealy is totally gone without us ever having fully known him. We know Gloady more than we ever wanted to yet we’re to be forced to painfully learn even more.

The only counter argument I can even conjure is that they’re trying to pump Gload’s stats to help his trade value. But, come on. What? What trade value? Nothing they can do can really affect his limited value to us or any other team. So, this argument just doesn’t fly in my opinion. He’s here to stay.

Fourth to First

by kabrink on Mar 10, 2009 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you only say first on game threads :)

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Mar 10, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

Fourth to First

by kabrink on Mar 10, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did i miss something?

Shealy never was part of the plan from the day they acquired jacobs.

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Mar 10, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My read on the situation

Is that Shealy pretty much has the backup 1B/DH spot locked up so they aren’t using now in order to showcase Gload for a possible trade. I expect to see Shealy get more ABs as spring rolls along.

I think – and it’s pure opinion – that the only way Gload makes the team is if Teahen gets traded.

Maybe I’m just optimistic but that’s what I’ve felt has been going on since day 1 of Spring Training.

by jsolo on Mar 10, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that seems odd, but possible I guess

I wanna know what love is, I want you to show me

by LeoBloom on Mar 10, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, IF Shealy is gone, then...

Callaspo has to be the starting second baseman.
Bloomquist, Teahen, Buck are on the bench
Gload would be battling TPJ for the last spot, so Gload would win because TPJ would clear waviers.
Thus, if Gload is not assured a spot then Shealy can’t be gone.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Mar 10, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Hope You're Right

I hope you’re right and think you might be. Let’s see, if we’re keeping 13 position players and 12 pitchers (I could be wrong about this), then here’s my 13:

C – Olivo
1B – Butler
2B – Callapso
SS – Aviles
3B – Gordon
LF – DeJesus
CF – Crisp
RF – Guillen
B – Buck
B – Bloomquist
B – Teahen
B – Shealy

I don't fight extra players.

by paleblueeyes on Mar 10, 2009 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Yes, I was planning on Jacobs at DH. Although I think Hillman has Jacobs at 1b and Butler at DH.

I don't fight extra players.

by paleblueeyes on Mar 10, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's how we open up the season

Except Ross replaces Ryan.

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 10, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post, Will, but there's one thing you're not considering

Teahen and Guillen haven’t been in camp since, what March 3? So that opens up a lot of PA’s in the outfield in spring games, which is where Gload has received most of his PA’s. Also take into account that probably the only reason he received 6 PA’s at 1B in the last week is because Butler was out with a hand injury.

I never really expected Shealy to make the club anyways. Once we signed Jacobs I knew he was gone.

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Mar 10, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing to add

I’m not trying to advocate for keeping Gload on the roster. I think that if he makes the 25-man Hillman will continue to overexpose and overuse him. The thing is that Gload does have some value as a versatile last man/late inning pinch hitter off the bench, but we already have that in Bloomquist (unless he wins the starting 2B job).

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Mar 10, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That value is nothing to the Royals

Shealy hits better for sure, and is at least as good defensively.

“Dougie” should never be mocked again by this fanbase for his good glove at first. At least his was actually good. Hell, he could even hit a little.

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is possible, the WBC/injury angle

although I’d still rather see someone other than gload out there

by royalsreview on Mar 10, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know

we weren’t fair to dougie

by royalsreview on Mar 10, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have said

something like “until Gload is ridden out of town and recognized for the embarrassment he was,” that Dougie shouldn’t be mocked. That whole “incident” is still ridiculous, not matter how it turned out in hindsight.

All i meant is that a silly as Dougie’s time in KC was, it wsa nothing compared to Gload.

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My heart fluttered when I read the Dutton article too.

I knew it was really too good to be true. I take exception to your assessment of Shealy being “one of the worst players in baseball”. Totally without merit. I do agree with your conclusion that Shealy will fill the role of odd-man-out. Hillman’s man crush on Mr. Grit is just too strong. However, Bloomy may give cause to a love triangle scenario.

by kmartin on Mar 10, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they're giving Gloady ABs because

he’s on the chopping block and they feel it wouldn’t be fair to Gloady to cut him without giving him plenty of opportunity to prove himself? Hope?

by stuckinstl12 on Mar 10, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could be

Let’s hang on to that hope! Maybe that’s why Pena is playing so much too.

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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 10, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait for Rany/JoPo's article

when Gload finally gets cut/not resigned (whenever that is) about how “DMGM gets it” because he was smart enough to “cut ties” with the man after tradinf for him, paying him above-replacement salary for two years, and playing him waaay too much.

Competence passing for brilliance: The New Gold Standard.

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But that's the way it is everywhere

And most of the time it seems like they aren’t competent either.

by AxDxMx on Mar 10, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what would be really ironic...

…is if someone said the same thing about Moore if he ends up cutting Shealy.

If Gload is kept over Shealy, then after Teahen, the offensive quality of the Royals’ bench drops off very quickly in a big way.

by DarthYoshi on Mar 10, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hoo boy

That post got heavy in a hurry. Like you said, Gload getting 24 plate appearances so far isn’t a big deal. Hell, it’s not even that big of a deal if he makes the team and Shealy gets cut. I think it’d be a bad decision, but it wouldn’t be beyond justification.

Gload is a passable 25th man on a contending team. We were rightly frustrated when he was our starting first baseman, but now that it seems clear that he’ll either be cut or play in a utility role, can’t we just let the hostility go? Remember the Gloaden rule.

by kcdc1 on Mar 10, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how is a 25th man who doesn't hit, isn't really good defensively, and isn't fast

something that’s ok?

i see your point, but seriously, isn’t it about having the best possible team?

Moore has spent money to make this team (supposedly) better, then we just throw away minor details

by royalsreview on Mar 10, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He

might be acceptable on such a team at the minimum. Even if he’s okay as a player (and I don’t see how a guy who’s 10 runs below average offensively and can only play first base at an average level is okay as a player, but whatever), he should never make more than the minimum.

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to be in a position of defending Ross Gload

but as utility players go, he’s not that bad of a hitter. Without looking at the stats, I think a case could be made that he was overexposed the last 2 years and his rate stats would improve were his AB’s were chosen a little more selectively. He backs up 1B with average to good defense, and he’ll pass in spot starts for LF and RF. He brings professionalism to the team, and that does make a difference in team performance. It also helps in pinch-hitting roles.

We should also clarify whether we’re objecting to a current decision or a past decision. I’m not going to argue with whether Gload’s contract should have been extended. That was a mistake. The issue of whether he makes this team over Shealy is a different matter. I agree that Shealy’s probably the better player between the two, but if Shealy costs the team $500,000, then keeping Gload will cost $1.9 million while cutting Gload to keep Shealy will cost the team $2.4 million.

by kcdc1 on Mar 10, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's the difference

Then Shealy’s easily worth the $500,000, which is, at worst, 1/9th of a margin win. Shealy is at least half a win better than Gload. Opportunity cost also matters.

What is Gload’s buyout for 2010?

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you when given a choice between the two

But I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. It’s not coming down to win shares or a choice between Shealy or Gload, what it comes down to is where you need guys to slot in a different positions. You are, after all, limited to 25 guys. With Jacobs and Butler guaranteed to share 1B/DH duties and nothing else, the Royals don’t need to carry another 1B-only type.

In actualtiy, the Royals should probably cut both Shealy and Gload. Teahen can fill in at 1B if needed.

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Mar 10, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The reason you keep Gload over Shealy

is because you think Gload makes the better utility player between the two, not because you think Gload makes the better first baseman. Don’t get me wrong, I’d probably keep Shealy. I’m just saying reasonable minds could differ.

by kcdc1 on Mar 10, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see your point

With Butler, Jacobs, and Shealy all on the roster, we’d be using 3 of 13 roster spots on guys who can only play 1B or DH (and I use the term “play 1B” very charitably in the cases of Butler and Jacobs). When you only have four bench spots available, one of which will be the backup catcher (presumably Buck), Gload’s ability to at least make spot starts in the COF positions can prove useful. The thing is that Teabag, Willie Hustle, and, to a much lesser extent, Callaspo can all fill the need for 4th and 5th OFers, and Teabag can also take over the job of being the main LH pinch hitter. Gload could be a useful 25th man on a lot of rosters, but not on the Royals’ roster.

by DarthYoshi on Mar 10, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that people can reasonably differ

I will say that using Gload’s “ability” to play the outfield as a factor in the decision makes the valuing of Willie Bloomquist’s versatility seem Rickey-esque.

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I missing something?

If they both suck equally, and will both have bench roles, why not keep the one who still has a little bit of hope in the form of upside potential (i.e., Shealy)? If GMDM is serious about fielding a winning team now but also over the long-haul, wouldn’t we protect Shealy from waivers for a little while longer? I suppose Gload has more versatility but with Teahen around, I’d work to keep Shealy around just in case…

DC Royal’s latest post just answered my question to an extent (turns out I am in fact missing something), although if Jacobs and The Kid are splitting DH/1B full time, there still should be another body to fill in there if one needs a break right? If both Shealy and Gload should be cut, who is the 25th man, warming the bench with Teabag, Spork, and Buck (lot of assumptions in there obviously)?

by Royal Revival on Mar 10, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ding Ding Ding

Ding………………..we have a winner. Teahen, Sporqie and Callaspo, starting or on the bench, give us enough utility coverage to afford Shealy a spot on the bench. I might even have Shealy grab a real glove and take some reps in LF; what’s the worst that could happen?

If Gload could play MIF, I might be more amenable to keeping him, but he can’t and he’s a butcher in the COF spots. I’m firmly convinced the best bench we can have with the current possibilities is Buck, Bloomquist, Teahen and Shealy. Callaspo should start at 2B unless Teahen proves he can handle it.

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by philofthenorth on Mar 10, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Gload could play MIF

his bat would be an asset as a utility infielder

by Top Ramen on Mar 10, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

shhhh! don't give Trey any ideas

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Mar 10, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

barely

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by devil_fingers on Mar 10, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...

you have Teahen, Sporqie, Callaspo and Shealy on the bench? Who is the backup catcher?

there are only 4 bench spots available b/c the team wants 12 pitchers. That means Buck / Pena has to be there… meaning if we keep Callaspo, there is no room for Shealy.

Teahen is Corner Utility
Callaspo / Bloomy are 2b
Buck is backup catcher. That’s it, right?

by CollininCalifornia on Mar 10, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, That's What

I meant by “starting or on the bench”. Ideally, Sporqie should be the bench utility guy, with Callaspo or Teahen starting at 2B. Buck would indeed be the backup catcher, though I see him more or less splitting starts with Olivo.

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by philofthenorth on Mar 10, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh if the Royals really wanted to think outside the box..

So that they could have the best team, get rid of Shealy, Gload, and TPJ and bring up Robinson to be the 25th man. Give you a defensive outfield of DDJ, Crisp, Robinson in late innings, and a pinch runner. Honestly he doesn’t hit much worse then Gload, and gives you a lot more flexability in defense then Shealy, and a bunter. Teahen could play first as a defensive ajustment and Robinson to right field for Guillen, Bloomquist for Callaspo. But hey, that is not going to happen.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on Mar 11, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he weren't 20 and unproven maybe

Robinson still needs time in the minors and regular at bats.The problem is Robinson is one of the few plus defenders in camp, but as long as Teahen is on the roster, the backup OF is taken care of. The corner positions are backed up, and DDJ can move to center when needed. Teahen also gives Shealy a better chance of making the roster, as he negates the use of Gload as a backup corner OF.

They could go in with Buck, Bloomquist, Teahen, and Shealy on the bench. Although this fails to account for a backup SS, unless they are comfortable with Callaspo or Bloomquist there. I’m not, nor am I comfortable with TPJ on the roster.

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by lobes on Mar 11, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was the horrible result I feared.

If I see the team break camp with Bloomquist, Jacobs, Crisp and (maybe?) Gload, while trading away Teahen and Shealy for scraps, I will be rather unhappy.

In a perfect world the Royals would just release Bloomquist, put Guillen on the DL for any damn reason at all, play Shealy at first and Butler at DH and let Jacobs learn how to count to four.

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by James Quinn on Mar 11, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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