best tools and skills, Royals edition
by doublestix on Mar 12, 2009 10:39 PM EDT
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blah blah blah. this has to be 75 words. royals rule, so does dr. pepper and mashed potatoes. i don't think i have enough words yet. nope i still need 13 more. kansas lost to baylor, that's pretty sad. Zack is awesome.
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Hey, I don't have a clue, but that's what the internet is all about
Easy than figuring out this Pythagenpat thing out, anyway…
I’m assuming this all means “right now,’ now "potential”
Position Players:
Best power: MIke Jacobs
Best contact hitter: Alberto Callaspo
Best defender.. relative to position, or in general? I’m assuming the later
-Infield: Aviles
-Outfield: CoCo Crisp
Best arm… Do you mean strongest? Or best at throwing guys out?
-Infield: don’t konw
-Outfield: Guillen
Best speed: CoCo Crisp
Best base runner: CoCo Crisp
Best strike zone discipline: Callaspo or DDJ
I’m not going to further embarrass myself by discussing the pitching stuff
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Position Players:
Best power: Alex Gordon. when he gets one, it goes a long ways. top 10 last year in HR distance in MLB.
Best contact hitter: Callaspo
Best defender…
-Infield: Mike Aviles
-Outfield: Coco Crisp
Best arm…
-Infield: Alex Gordon. we’ll have the best throwing first baseman in the league when “The Hos” gets here.
-Outfield: Hozay
Best speed: Coco Crisp
Best base runner: Coco Crisp
Best strike zone discipline: David Dejesus
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Zack Greinke
Best curveball: Gil Meche/Joakim Soria
Best slider: Zack Greinke
Best changeup: Kyle Davies
Best command: Zack Greinke/Joakim Soria
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I couldn't decide on plate discipline
Callaspo’s has masterful discernment, but isn’t quite as “patient” as DDJ, whatever that means
Sort of a funny questionairre, since the SS is (unless you’re the Yankees) pretty much always going to be the best defender in the IF, and the CF in the OF.
I was going to do a big piece on Hit Tracker and the Royals, and have it mostly done, but Greg has put so much out there, it seems like child play now. If people still want to see it, I can still put it out there. I think Jacobs will still have the best power numbers, but if Gordon can just add his 2007 power against lefties to his 2008 power against righties…
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 12, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
callaspo
seems like he doesn’t swing at all if it’s a ball, but if it’s in the strike zone, he’s hacking whether it’s a “good” strike to swing at or not. guess that’s not the worst thing in the world since his contact skills are so awesome, but it’s kind of annoying when he’s in a cold streak. he could probably be an on-base monster if he would be a little more picky with the pitches early in the count.
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Good call
He avoids strikeouts, but he doesn’t take a particularly high percentage of bad pitches. He’s a contact guy.
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 12, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
Position Players:
Best power: Guillen
Best contact hitter: Aviles
Best defender…
-Infield: Aviles
-Outfield: Crisp
Best arm…
-Infield: Gordon
-Outfield: Guillen
Best speed: Crisp
Best base runner: Crisp (If you take base stealing skill out of the equation, then I’d go with Teahen)
Best strike zone discipline: DeJesus
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Cruz
Best curveball: Soria (slow, rainbow curve) Meche (more of a traditional curveball)
Best slider: Greinke
Best changeup: Soria
Best command: Greinke
I felt like putting question marks after each of those responses.
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 12, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions
Position Players:
Best power: Jacobs now Gordon later
Best contact hitter: Callaspo
Best defender…
-Infield: Aviles
-Outfield: DDJ
Best arm…
-Infield: Gordon
-Outfield: Guillen
Best speed: Crisp just pure speed, down the baseline maybe Aviles
Best base runner: Teahen
Best strike zone discipline: Crisp
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Tejeda
Best curveball: Soria
Best slider: Greinke
Best changeup: Soria now Greinke later
Best command: Soria
Greinke is just now starting to use the change. The kid is a freak and will probably establish a 70 change up by the time it is all done.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
hmm
if Zack develops a 70 changeup…he’ll be the best pitcher in the game.
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Zack IS awesome
I’m going to post mine before peering at anyone else’s list. Then, I’ll compare.
(For fun, and because I have some time on my hands, I’ll compare players on the probable 25-man roster and players throughout the Minor League organization. I’m still going to evaluate the 25-man based on probability for 2009 alone (which is then based largely on my own gut prediction).
Position Players:
Best power: Alex Gordon (the potential is still greater than that of Jacobs, and he could very well realize that potential this year) / Kila Ka’aihue (tremendous slugger, primarily HR-hitter, but could slug .500 in his sleep…something that cannot yet be said about Moose)
Best contact hitter: Alberto Callaspo (undoubtedly, although ironically there are quite a few on the projected 25-man, which is mystifying considering our offense is still as bad as it is) / Eric Hosmer (I see him as a contact-first/power-second kinda player…his willingness to go opposite-field contradicts his swing, which looks more power-oriented)
Best defender….
-Infield: Alex Gordon (the potential still outweighs that of Aviles, IMO) / Mario Lisson (it appeared he didn’t miss a beat after switching to shortstop)
-Outfield: Coco Crisp (based on potential, position, and importance of position) / Jose Duarte (I’ve heard rants and raves)
Best arm…
-Infield: Alex Gordon (without a doubt) / Mike Moustakas (without a doubt)
-Outfield: Jose Guillen (location hurts him, but power is overwhelming) / Jose Duarte (I’m basing this on BA, alone)
Best speed: Coco Crisp (although one could make a legitimate argument for Bloomquist, although he’s a bit older than Crisp, overall) / Derrick Robinson (Ortiz hasn’t shown the efficiency and raw SB totals, thus far)
Best base runner: Willie Bloomquist (complete shot in the dark guess, here) / Jason Taylor (man, you HAVE to give it up to a man of his heavy-setitude who can post a 74% success rate in a pitching-oriented league. Reefer madness! [OK, was that out of line?])
Best strike zone discipline: David DeJesus (I base this on several things….., honorable mention to Gordon and Callaspo) / Kila Ka’aihue (without question), although strong cases could be made for Joshua Johnson and Jason Taylor….although Taylor borders on passiveness, it’s amazing Johnson gets walked as much as he does with a player of his skill set (no power, etc.)
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Zack Greinke (he can basically do whatever he wants with it) / Carlos Rosa (although haven’t witnessed it, much, up close)
Best curveball: Joakim Soria (without question, but give honorable mention to Meche and Davies) / Daniel Gutierrez (have heard rants and raves)
Best slider: Zack Greinke (I’d have to check this) / Henry Barrera (Going with B.A.)
Best changeup: Kyle Davies (Greinke is close) / Blake Wood (B.A.)
Best command: Zack Greinke / Rowdy Hardy (without question)
Good call on Kila
I totally forgot about him. He could be considered best plate discipline on the ML roster. I read that Fortuna has a pretty nasty fastball in the minor league system.
Best Curveball in the minors might go to Sample.
From what I’ve read Herrera might have the biggest upside of all the minor league pitchers even though he doesn’t possess the most projectability.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
insert joke about the cause of Taylor's passiveness
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 13, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ross Gload is the biggest tool
Best power: Alex Gordon
Best contact hitter: Alberto Callaspo
Best defender…
-Infield: Mike Aviles – I haven’t seen Bloomquist yet
-Outfield: Coco Crisp
Best arm…
-Infield: Alex Gordon
-Outfield: Jose Guillen
Best speed:
Best base runner: Coco Crisp (I don’t believe the Mark Teahen nonsense)
Best strike zone discipline: David DeJesus
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Zack Greinke
Best curveball: Joakim Soria
Best slider: Zack Greinke
Best changeup: Joakim Soria
Best command: Joakim Soria
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Crisp is the best baserunner
and Teahen had a bad year, but the numbers back up him and DDJ (who also had a bad year) being very good baserunners in other years — BP’s EqBRR, Bill James’ system, and Rally all agree.
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by Matt Klaassen on Mar 13, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Teahen's base running
Clearly he’s no base stealer. But the stats and scouts agree that Teahen is a great base runner in all non-base stealing ways. When the stats guys and the tools-based guys agree, there’s usually something real there.
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 13, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Are they watching every play of every game?
Without hit f/x I just don’t know how a stat could accurately calculate baserunning. It is something that actually would have to be seen as opposed to devising a stat for it. 1st to third, second to home, which fielder is making the throw, what was the speed at which the ball was hit, etc.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Position Players:
Best power: Alex Gordon…. all i have to say is… remember the game against the orioles last year when he hit it on the street outside the stadium?
Best contact hitter: Alberto Callaspo…. and DDJ with runners on
Best defender…
-Infield: tied with Aviles and Gordo
-Outfield: Crisp
Best arm…
-Infield: Gordon
-Outfield: Guillen
Best speed: Crisp
Best base runner: Crisp
Best strike zone discipline: DDJ
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Greinke
Best curveball: Soria
Best slider: Greinke
Best changeup: Soria
Best command: Soria
Mike Jacobs.... I hope your bat has as much lift as your hair does.....
mmm
Position Players:
Best power: Kila or Shealy, why did we get Jacobs
Best contact hitter: Callaspo
Best defender…
-Infield: Shealy was a great 1B, Gordon
-Outfield: Dejesus
Best arm…
-Infield: Gordon
-Outfield: Guillen
Best speed: Crisp
Best base runner: Crisp
Best strike zone discipline: Kila
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Greinke/Ducky(not really sure he still has it or not)
Best curveball: Soria
Best slider: Greinke
Best changeup: Davies
Best command: Soria
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo
by playingwithfire on Mar 13, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
YA
Position Players:
Best power: Buck
Best contact hitter: Callaspo
Best defender…
-Infield: GLOAD
-Outfield:GLOAD
for real Aviles and Teahen
Best arm…
-Infield: Butler (i thought he had a total cannon?)
-Outfield: Teahen
Best speed: Crisp
Best base runner: Teahen
Best strike zone discipline: Gordon
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Greinke
Best curveball: Soria
Best slider: Cruz
Best changeup: Tejeda
Best command: Soria
Minors
Position Players:
Best power: Moose
Best contact hitter: Giavotella
Best defender…
-Infield: Lisson
-Outfield: Duarte
Best arm…
-Infield: Moose or Hos
-Outfield: Duarte or Adrian Ortiz (18 of assist)
Best speed: Robinson
Best base runner: Jason Taylor
Best strike zone discipline: Kila Ka’aihue
Pitchers:
Best fastball: Fortuna
Best curveball: Sample
Best slider: Barrera
Best changeup: Herrera (Think smaller version of Greinke)
Best command: Herrera
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Fortuna...
lot to like, but i’d be hesitant to say he has the best fastball yet. right now I’d take Cortes’, Rosa’s, and Juan Abreu’s fastball before his. maybe Gutz’s as well.
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I agree with that completely
I thought Fortuna was a real stretch for best fastball in the organization. BA says Rosa. I would have said Cortes. Both are good choices. You’ve got to take velocity, control and movement into account. Maybe Fortuna will develop the best fastball in the organization, but I don’t think he’s there yet.
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by Scott McKinney on Mar 14, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I went off projectability
and I threw Rosa out since he played in the majors last year. Ya I know he still qualifies under scouting rules but I mostly wanted to toss someone else out there. Cortes, Wood, Sample all have good fastballs but all lack control too.
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