REMINDER: RRKL YR2 draft is this Saturday.

by grudz96 on Mar 21, 2009 1:29 AM EDT Comment 32 comments

This is a reminder to all the managers that the RRKL YR2 draft is Saturday, March 21st at 8 pm CT. You should be at the draft no later that 10 minutes prior to the start time. If there is any chance you may not be able to be online during the draft please prerank your players. The keepers are listed below by team. You will have to do your own draftsheet as Yahoo doesn't handle that yet. I will be there to disqualify any picks of players that our on the above keeper list. The first six rounds will consist of the new managers making their first six picks and then each original manager's keepers will be listed in the last part of the first six rounds of the draft. On the seventh round everyone will start to draft the remaining free agents. This is how the yahoo keeper system works. I have locked down the teams so nothing will be able to be changed until the draft concludes.

I have my fingers crossed that the draft will go well and that the season will be fun and entertaining for everyone. Good luck and Go Royals...

RR Keeper League Draft Order for 2009
Draft Date: March 21, 2009
Draft Time: 8:00 pm. CTUSA

1. astroph2004
2. TrumanRoyal
3. rockchalk
4. GoBabies
5. AxDxMx
6.   Matty486 119-149-40
7.   RR's Fun Bunch 126-154-28
8.   gordonrules 119-145-44
9.   Daddy de los Royales 129-153-26
10. Grudz's Bar & Grill 126-152-30
11. Sisquatch Kids 137-127-44
12. Loyal2s Gobstoppers 134-142-32
13. JQ's Sluggers 126-147-35
14. Marbot Destroy! 142-137-29
15. Hoch 146-133-29
16. Randa4Life 144-132-32
17. stuckinstl12 161-122-25
18. thedude925=awesome 150-118-40
19. NYRoyal 155-117-36
20. RaefzillaHamFighters 175-109-24

KEEPER'S 2009:

Grudz’s :

1. Dustin Pedroia (Bos – 2B)
2. Alexei Ramirez (CWS – 2B,SS,OF)
3. Jermaine Dye (CWS – OF)
4. Joe Nathan (Min – RP)
5. Jensen Lewis (Cle – RP)
6. Jake Peavy (SD – SP)

Matty486 Keepers

Joe Soria KC P
Pete Fielder MIL 1B
George Sizemore CLE OF
Frank Carmona CLE P
Alexis Gordon KC 3B
William Butler KC 1B

RoyalsReview

1) Lance Berkman
2) Josh Beckett
3) John Lackey
4) Jeremy Bonderman
5) Hanley Ramirez
6) Derek Lee

Gordon Rules

Ethier (LAD-OF)
Longoria (TB-3rd)
Nolasco (FLA-SP)
Chamberlain(NYY-SP)
Arrendondo (LAA-RP)
Ellsbury (BOS-OF)

RoyalDaddy

Geovany Soto- C
Jose Reyes- SS
Mark Teixeira- 1B
Jon Lester- SP
Cliff Lee- SP
Fransisco Rodriguez- RP

Sisquatch Kids

1. Miguel Cabrera (DET)
2. Josh Hamilton (TEX)
3. Shane Victorino (PhI)
4. Adrian Gonzalez (SD)
5. Dice-K (Bos)
6. Ryan Dempster (CHI)

Loyal2

1) Santana
2) Mauer
3) Youkilis
4) Uggla
5) C. Perez
6) Masterson

JQ..aka.. Jim Quinn

David Ortiz DH (Boston)
Jason Bay OF (Boston)
Roy Oswalt SP (Houston)
Adam Dunn DH (Kansas City)
B.J. Ryan RP (Toronto)
Troy Tulowitzki SS (KC West)

Marbotty

1. BJ Upton
2. Braun
3. St. Drew
4. Greinke
5. Harden
6. Papelbon

Hoch

Alex Rodriguez NYY-3B
Tim Lincecum SFG-SP
Ian Kinsler TEX-2B
Carlos Lee HOU-OF
Mike Aviles KC-2B,SS
Carl Crawford TAM-OF

Randa4life

1. Jimmy Rollins- Phi – SS
2.Vlad – LAA – OF
3.Man Ram – LAD OF
4.Brian McCann Atl C
5.Ben Sheets – Mil – SP
6.Brad Lidge – Phi – RP

StuckinStl Keeper

Brandon Webb—ARI—P
Mariano Rivera—NYY—RP
Carlos Pena—TB—1B
Chase Utley—PHI—2B
Alfonso Soriano—CHC—OF
J.D. Drew—BOS—OF

thedude925

Chad Billingsley
Albert Pujols
Carlos Quentin
Felix Hernandez
Brian Roberts
Carlos Beltran

New York Royal

Matt Cain SF – SP
Edinson Volquez CIN – SP
Matt Holliday OAK – OF
Justin Morneau MIN – 1B
Ichiro Suzuki SEA – OF
Garrett Atkins COL – 1B, 3B

(Winner and Still Champion RaefzillaHamFighters)

David Wright (NYM – 3B)
C.C. Sabathia (MIL – SP)
Roy Halladay (TOR – SP)
Francisco Liriano (MIN – SP)
Scott Kazmir (TB – SP)
Matt Kemp (LAD – OF)

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Oh, so Yahoo is going to show all players as draftable for us, including keepers? I as assuming that Yahoo would exclude the keepers for us.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 17, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It looks like they won't. But, since this is the first time for this draft we will see

what happens. The post was a warning that a little homework might be in order.

by grudz96 on Mar 17, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think we sort of started a new league

i think there would be an option if you’re continuing an old league to have keepers. that wasn’t really feasible since we now have 20 teams. anyway, you should be able to assign keepers next season.

by marbotty on Mar 18, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All the five new teams have to do is review the keeper list

that is posted above before they make their first six picks. All the other picks in the first six rounds are locked in and can’t be changed. They consist of the 6 keepers that were chosen by each original team several months ago. Then at the beginning of the 7th round the free agents listed should be available for drafting. Simple, right?

by grudz96 on Mar 18, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait a sec

Are you saying that the expansion teams are the only ones who get to draft for the first six rounds??? Am I the only one who didn’t know this? Of course I only get one vote, but I never would have agreed to expansion teams if I had known this. For a 20-team league, the talent left at round 7 is going to be mediocre at best. My opinion: this really sucks.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 17, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i say give em three

or we could all drop two keepers

by wildthang on Mar 17, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give who three?

And is it too late to change at this point?

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 17, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

give the newbers three picks

by wildthang on Mar 17, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The new owners

will be picking new players. We, the old owners, have already made our first 6 picks by choosing the six keepers from last season. By the time the 7th round starts there will be 120 players taken. This includes all the keepers from last season. The last player taken in the 23rd round will be #460. There is 700 players on the 25 man roster of the 28 teams add to that 50 or so promising rookies that are at AAA and I think there will be more than enough players to go around. Will they all be stars…nope. That happens in a 20 team league the player pool is very water down.

by grudz96 on Mar 17, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Royals Nation League

Gave Expansion teams the right to pick players off waivers and keep them AND be the only teams drafting in the first NINE ROUNDS (Nine keepers per team).

Quitcherbitchin

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Mar 17, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any chance we can make this a snake draft, then?

Drafting near the end of each round is going to be a real kick in the marbles for those of us at the back end. I know this is reverse order from how we finished, but a couple dozen of rounds of back end drafting seems like more than creating parity.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 18, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm pretty sure it defaults to serpentine draft

by marbotty on Mar 18, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, it doesn't.

This order and draft type was discussed and agreed upon several months ago. It is the fairest for all 20 teams.

by grudz96 on Mar 18, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, cool

I didn’t recall that, but I guess that’s the only way you can get the expansion teams up to speed. Ideally, you’d have the expansion teams pick first every round and do serpentine for the preexisting members of the league, but i realize that’s impossible to do, so this makes sense.

by marbotty on Mar 18, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

New owner posting...

As a new owner, I appreciate the chance to draft this way, but NYRoyal is right. 6 keepers does not a dynasty make. If you are going to let us, the new owners, draft 6 players before everyone else (which is a change I welcome), you should probably switch it to a snake draft to make up for the change. I mean, the original reason for putting the new owners at the top was because we weren’t getting keepers, but now we are essentially drafting our keepers. It would then make more sense to not favor one new owner over another in the keeper drafting process either and use a snake format, not to mention to give the new teams an advantage in every round by drafting first.

I second NYRoyal’s motion to make it a snake draft, assuming it is a simple change for Grudz96.

Anyone oppose?

For the record, I’m ok either way.

by AxDxMx on Mar 18, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It is biologically impossible... that is like changing the sex of a

baby mid birth. I did check the league page and the keepers are already marked on the free agent list for the draft. So, nobody should have any problems.

Off topic…. you had better get your rage on as I am the first opponent for your team. Zook’s will prevail.

by grudz96 on Mar 18, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But why can't you do a snake draft the entire draft?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding it, but if the original picks are already preset, then it wouldn’t be an issue.

So, for example, the above-listed order would be for the first round, then you just flip it? The other teams are auto-picked, and it works out. Then, once the 7th round hits, regular drafting resumes for all teams.

Does that make sense?

by rockchalk on Mar 20, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seems like it makes sense

And I think the setting can be changed to “snake” draft at any time up to draft time.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 21, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am nervous as hell about keeping all this straight

by royalsreview on Mar 21, 2009 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

how long will those first 6 rounds take?

thats at least an hour, right?

by royalsreview on Mar 21, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grudz says you have to be there by 10 minutes before the draft starts, regardless

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 21, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would encourage all the returning guys to just go to your pre-rankings and exclude the top50 players right away

so you don’t end up autodrafting them

this could be a nightmare for grudz

by royalsreview on Mar 21, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

my flight is getting in around 430-5

so hopefully i can get back home in time.

Gotta preserve the mediocre dynasty.

by wildthang on Mar 21, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure that

1) Yahoo will exclude the keepers from the drafting process. They are already on their teams.

2) You can change your live draft at this point to an offline draft, but the snake/straight drafting choice is when you create the league and can’t be changed.

3) The first 6 rounds are 5 picks each, and assuming each owner has done his homework, should take no longer than 30 minutes.

by AxDxMx on Mar 21, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My god

I just realized that if the first 6 rounds take 30 minutes, the last 17 rounds (340 picks) may take over 5 hours. Holy crap.

by AxDxMx on Mar 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1. I think this was set up as a new league, as opposed to a continuation of a keeper league from last year. So the keepers are not already on our teams. You can see that from going to a team’s page (like mine). There are no players on any rosters.

2. You can’t change the draft format after you create the league?

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have already drafted them

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/46299/draftresults

They are listed in the draft results.

by AxDxMx on Mar 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thank God

I was envisioning a total nightmare

by royalsreview on Mar 21, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am very confused by all this complicated drafting talk stuff,

yet I am still absolutely sure I will dominate the league this year.

www.rockchalktalk.com for pretty good KU baseball coverage

by James Quinn on Mar 21, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As I will have the second to last pick in 19 of 25 rounds, I am confident that I will finish in the bottom third

But then next year, watch out! We’d better not have a snake draft next year.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 21, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it'll be a fu six hours either way

by royalsreview on Mar 21, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm more interested in the outcome than the process

These drafts are always long, especially with the freakishly high number of teams the RR leagues always have. I just wish that investing all of this time in the draft would give me a legitimate chance to be competitive this season. I guess there’s always next year.

The immoderate moderator

by NYRoyal on Mar 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs