2003 Royals Draft Review
Sorry for the absence, life got busy and then I got crazy sick but thankfully am mended.
2003 sure does seem like a long time ago doesn't it? There was "Mission Accomplished", the Dow was at 10,000 and the Allard Baird Royals were leading the AL Central for a good part of the Summer. They also had one of the hottest pitching prospects in all of baseball tearing up the minors in Zack Greinke. The Royals held the 5th overall pick in the June Draft. They also got a compensation pick (#30 overall) for losing Paul Byrd to free agency.
1st Round (overall pick #5
Let me pat myself on the back and say that I was not a fan of drafting Chris Lubanski-of course the guy I was hoping for has been an even bigger disappointment. The reports on Baseball America in the days before the draft indicated that the Royals wanted to take Ryan Harvey a big HS outfielder with huge power. The Royals desperately needed power at the time and I thought this guy was it. (it turns out power was the only thing Harvey had). Signability was an issue and the Royals decided not to take him at the last minute and went with Chris Lubanski-a HS CF from Pennsylvania. Lubanski was supposed to be a 5 tool talent-who might take a little time to develop because he was from a cold-weather state. His family had built a batting cage in the basement of their home so Chris could work on his hitting in the winter. He signed quickly and he got off to a promising start in the Arizona League, posting a 834 OPS in over 200 abs.
In 2004, he went to the Midwest league where he posted a 759 OPS. He stole 16 bases and got caught 11 times-not great for a guy who was supposed to be a burner and the whispers about his CF defense had already started. In 2005 he went to the High Desert and had an inflated 903 OPS with 38 walks and 131 Ks but was already being moved over to LF because his arm couldn't play in right and he couldn't cover enough ground in center. 2006 looked like it would be a pivotal year as he went to AA. He posted an 844 OPS in AA that year and then and 851 OPS for the first half of 2007. He was talking more walks but his speed was all but gone. Promoted in the middle of 2007 to Omaha, he struggled with an 636 OPS in 168 abs and a 18/48 bb/k ratio. Last year, back at Omaha he posted a 754 OPS with a 38/130 bb/k ratio. He's had a decent spring but its hard to see Lubanski as anything more than a 4th outfielder. He supposedly worked on his speed this offseaon-probably so he can play something beside LF and make himself more valuable coming off the bench. He will turn 24 in a few weeks so he's still relatively young and there is always the chance he goes Mike Aviles on us-which would be great-but I'm not holding my breath.
Here is how I would rate Lubanski against the 9 players taken after him:
- Nick Markakis-Orioles-pick #7
- John Danks-Rangers #9
- Lastings Milledge-Mets #12
- Ian Stewart-Rockies #10
- Paul Maholm-Pirates #8
- Aaron Hill-Blue Jays #13
- Michael Aubrey-Indians #11
- Ryan Wagner-Reds #14
- Chris Lubanski-Royals--#5
- Ryan Harvey-Cubs-#6
You can't win them all can you? Everyone raked the Orioles over the coals for taking Markakis as a hitter--most folks thought he should be a pitcher. The 2003 draft seems like it was pretty light on talent.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/L/Chris-Lubanski.shtml
1st Round 30th Overall (for Paul Byrd)
The previous year was the famous "Moneyball" draft of the A's. By the summer of 03, Michael Lewis' book was being talked about in baseball circles. Who knows if that had any influence at all but the Royals took a high OBP college player with this pick-Mitch Maier from the University of Toledo. Mitch hit 448/525/691 his junior season as a catcher. We moved him to third base and eventually the outfield-where he is a good defensive player. Maier hit great in Arizona league in 03, struggled a little at Burlington in 04, raked in High Desert in 05, did OK at AA in 06, struggled in AAA in 07 and improved in AAA in 08. Drafting Maier seemed like a good idea at the time and he's not a total flop but it shows what a crapshoot taking the supposedly safest route in the draft is. He will probably go back to Omaha this year and could be useful as a fourth outfielder but if a teams has to play him every day in the big leagues that isn't a very good sign.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Mitch-Maier.shtml
Supplemental 1st Round picks included: Matt Murton, Adam Miller, Adam Jones, Jarrod Saltamacchia
2nd Round
The Royals went back to the college realm for their 2nd round choice a stocky outfielder from Cal-Stat-San Bernadino-Shane Costa. Costa is similar to Maier-Costa's bat is probably a little better and Maier's got the edge when it comes to the glove. Costa is already 27 but I've always been curious what he could do with semi-regular playing time.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Shane-Costa.shtml
Other picks in this round: Tom Gorzelanny, Ryan Sweeney, Andre Ethier, Nate Schierholtz
3rd Round
As they did in 2002, the Royals used their 3rd round pick for a "who is that?" choice. Robert McFall was a JUCO 1st baseman and Chandler-Glibert. He wasn't on the radar for the top 5 rounds but the Royals liked his power even though the rest of his game was not real polished. He has produced good power with a lot of Ks and not many walks. In 2007, he looked like perhaps he had turned a corner, posting an 841 OPS in Wilmington.
A year ago I was touting him as a sleeper prospect. But at AA he posted an 783 OPS-decent but not great for a 24 year old corner outfielder. It seem unlikely he will ever contribute at the big league level.
Other picks in this round: Chris Ray, Ryan Garko, Shaun Marcum, Sean Rodriguez
4th Round
In the 4th Round the Royals took a HS 3rd baseman from Puerto Rico, Miguel Vega. There were actually rumblings that this kid might go in the 1st round. He was known for huge power but being raw. The Royals took him and I was convinced we had a steal. We didn't. His bb/k ratios for 06 and 07:12/122, 19/137. He got 74 abs in Wilmington last year and then didn't play anymore-I'm guessing he got hurt. We'll see if he's still around this year or not.
Other picks in this round: Jonathan Papelbon, Michael Bourn, Josh Anderson
Other picks of note:
5th-9th Rounds
In the 5th-9th Rounds the Royals took 5 college seniors. Chris Goodman, Ryan Braun, Mike Aviles, Brandon Powell and John Gragg. They offered each of these seniors a take it or leave it signing bonus of $1,000-which is well below what players in those round normally get. These 5 guys were out of college eligibility so they couldn't go back to school and if they wanted to pursue baseball-they had to sign.
For $5,000 the Royals got what looks to be a average/good SS in Mike Aviles and once upon a time closer prospect in Ryan Braun. For the money, that's a good deal. But I also can't help but wonder that those tactics helped either cement or reinforce the idea of the Royals being desperately and stupidly cheap and that David Glass was sitting on his pile of money while the Royals stunk. Telling is the fact that this tactic was not used again by us and not by any other franchise that I know of (although the Royals were known for skimping in later rounds of the draft for the next few years).
Back to Mike Aviles, the kid put up some crazy numbers in college. He put up OPS numbers between 750-800 as he made his way up the system (the only exception being his initial taste of AAA in 2006-a 680 OPS). Last year he went crazy in Omaha with a 1001 OPS and then came up here and for 419 at bats was one of the best shortstops in baseball.
Other picks in this round: our own Brian Bannister, Kyle Kendrick, Reggie Willits, Brendan Ryan
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/A/Mike-Aviles.shtml
10th Round Luis Cota
The Royals took a HS righty in the 10th Round-he went to JUCO and we followed him as a draft and follow. Luis Cota's fastball spiked in the spring of 2004 and he was one of the top draft and follow prospects. We could either sign him up until a few weeks before the draft or he would go back into the draft pool for 04. We signed him for just over $1 million. He had a decent 05 at Burlington but got lit up at High Desert in 06. He missed 07 with injury and pitched 60 innings last year in the low minors.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Luis-Cota.shtml
Recap:
The Royals wanted to improve their hitting depth in this draft. The Royals first 5 picks were all hitters. Other than that there is no theme that holds this draft together. A Mix of HS and College player. Cheap selections and an expensive draft and follow. I'd give this draft a "C-". A year ago, it might have gotten an "F". Your view of this draft depends on:
- if you think Mike Aviles will continue to be a good Major League player
- if you think Shane Costa, Mitch Maier, and even Chris Lubanski can be role players.
One thing I noticed from this draft: the Royals took a bunch of players from funky schools. Lubanski from Pennsylvania-not exactly a baseball hotbed. College players from: U. of Toledo, Cal. State Bernanadino, Georgia Institute of Technology. The Royals seemed to want to take some good "stats" guys but from small schools where the stats were not as meaningful (caveat: the one guy who panned out was from Concordia College).
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My shadow draft from that year
1-OF David Murphy (bit of a reach honestly, but I liked his OBA skillz at the time)
1s-P Brian Finch – bust
2- 1B Vincent Sinisi bust P Marc Cornell – bust
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4-OF Christian Snavely – (good OBA skills for my alma mater, but he has busted)
5-P Jordan Pratt – probably a bust
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a good year for mine.
1- 1B Michael Aubrey- Injuries gutted his career and it’s a shame.
1s- Maier
2- RHP Thomas Pauly- Was a promising B- prospect for the Reds until his shoulder went boom.
3- RHP- Dennis Dove- Had a brief ML stint as a reliever until he too got hurt
4- LHP- Casey Abrams- Lack of command nuked his career by the end of 2005
5- RHP- Chris Schutt- Another pitcher flamout
6- 2B- Luke Appert- Organizational utility guy
7- LHP- David Marchbanks- Steve Blass disease
8- C- Landon Powell- Did not sign that year. Now the presumptive backup in oakland
9- RHP- Thomas Mastny- Reliever went to Japan this year. Will probably be passed my Maier as the most successful pick that year. Ugh.
10- SS- Jayce Tingler- Organizational player until 2006. MIA since.
Just a brutal draft for me. By far my worst.
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by JM Barten on Mar 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Aubrey a lot too
Tis a shame.
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Georgia Institute of Technology
This is a big time baseball power. You may know it better as “Georgia Tech”. It has produced Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Varitek and Matt Wieters, among others.
Good wrap up. Maybe Aviles can salvage this draft.
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
er...I knew that...
…I was just testing you. Good job. Now keep your eyes peeled for a grammar error.
by nwroyal on Mar 18, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone have ANY hope for a lubanski mini-comeback?
by royalsreview on Mar 18, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not at all...
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by CollininCalifornia on Mar 18, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was probably the biggest Lubanski supporter a year ago
And I’d put the chances of him sticking as a MLB bench player at about 2.5%
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still haven't given up hope
but then, i’m what you might call a mental midget
by marbotty on Mar 18, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're rex grossman?
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by LeoBloom on Mar 18, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the chance of him ever contributing more than a handful of good MLB PA's is about 0.1%
I think there is very little hope there. Neither his bat nor his defense are good even for AAA. He’s a corner guy only and there’s no reason to believe he’ll ever be a decent hitter in the majors. I think he’s a below average replacement level.
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by NYRoyal on Mar 18, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had no idea the $1,000 dollar signing bonuses were that early in the draft
wow
by royalsreview on Mar 18, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It all varies depending on talent evaluation and signability
Seniors in the draft literally have no leverage unless they want to take a huge risk and go play indy ball.
High school guys have the most leverage. Last year we offered our seventh round pick (Jason Esposito, Connecticut HS) $1.5 million and he turned it down to go to Vanderbilt. The year before, we offered our 9th round pick (Zach Kenyon, Iowa HS) $800K and he turned it down to go to Iowa. Personally, I think both are idiots. Kenyon’s doing terrible at Iowa and odds are against themfor getting that type of money offered to them again. Interestingly, Esposito’s bio on the Vanderbilt website states that “His advice to youngsters is to never settle for less than you deserve” Seems like a not too thinly veiled reference to his draft experience, no?
On the other hand, we offered last year’s 50th round pick (Travis Jones) $100K and he accepted.
Waiting for April.
by DC Royal on Mar 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, that really is kinda silly to turn that money down
makes you think they were getting advice from Boras or some other super agent
by marbotty on Mar 18, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Perhaps they realize that few prospects even make it to the majors and have heard how little minor leaguers get paid. What happens if they fail and have no education to fall back on? What has happened to the $800K signing bonus after 4-5 years (including paying a portion to the agent)? Maybe they won’t be offered much the next chance they get to be drafted, but they may end up ahead in the long run because they at least started their education for free.
by BrRoyal on Mar 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought teams
paid for guys the drafted out of HS to go back and get their degrees.
by wildthang on Mar 18, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they do
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by doublestix on Mar 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It left off my "Thanks" for some reason
by BrRoyal on Mar 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure
some players actually go to school during the fall and winter after the games are over. i know some guys like David Lough, Hilton Richardson, and Keaton Hayenga are doing that.
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by doublestix on Mar 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shane Costa
I am STILL on the Costa bandwagon, and I refuse to get off until he is given enough consistent PT to prove me right or wrong…
I remember watching that draft live @ work on MLB.com, and they had scouting video of him. He had a REAL quick bat in college, and I thought he would have no trouble adjusting to the Wood Bat.
I still see him as a guy that has all the physical tools, he just needs opportunity. It probably wont/shouldn’t come in KC, unless there is injuries to both corner spots, then I’d like to see Teabag & him get most of the games in the corners…
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Mar 18, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it was odd that the royals didn't callup costa last season+
he’s done with this org i think
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by LeoBloom on Mar 18, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never forgave him for being
on the 2006 opening day roster over Aaron Guiel…
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by labbadabba on Mar 18, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was hurt
He was in line for a call up, but missed most of the second half with injury.
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's done, period
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by NYRoyal on Mar 18, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
i am glad there is another Costa supporter here.
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by doublestix on Mar 18, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Costa WOULD be finished,
but I can see where other clubs wouldn’t want to pick him up right now because of his injuries last year. He was on the DL a long freakin time.
If not for that wrist problem, he’d already be on someone else’s roster.
GoBabies and doublestix, add me to the list of Costa supporters. I really wish he’d gotten more chances in KC.
WTF, self?
by minda33 on Mar 18, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woot!
three Costa supporters.
we’re gaining steam.
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by doublestix on Mar 18, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by devil_fingers on Mar 21, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aviles really redeems this draft
although its hard to give anyone much credit for him, since he still came out of nowhere
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by LeoBloom on Mar 18, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh... and who the hell is Robert McFall
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by LeoBloom on Mar 18, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brian McFall
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 18, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian McRae?
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by labbadabba on Mar 18, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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