ST Game 6 Open Thread - Giants vs Royals
by 2X2L on Mar 2, 2009 11:31 AM EST
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PrintThe Royals host the San Francisco Giants at Surprise Stadium, while with expectations newly raised by Joe Posnanski we all await a strikeout-laden performance by the Royals' pitching staff.
Matt Cain starts for the Giants against Horacio Ramirez for the Royals. Kevin Pucetas, Jack Taschner, and Brian Wilson are scheduled to relieve for the Giants. For the Royals: Kyle Davies, Jamey Wright, Julio Pimentel, and Heath Phillips.
Broadcast: the Royals radio network, MLB.com, and XM Radio channel 180.
MLB.com Gameday: here.
Recent action: the Royals defeated the Giants in Scottsdale last Friday, 6-1, as Xaq Greinke and six relievers limited the Giants to 5 hits. Matt Cain last pitched Thursday against the Dodgers, giving up 1 run in an inning and two thirds on a home run by Russell Martin. Horacio Ramirez last pitched in the Royals' Cactus League opener Wednesday against the Rangers; he got his work in.
Game notes: for the Giants, bench coach Ron Wotus will be acting as the skipper today while manager Bruce Bochy undergoes arthroscopic shoulder surgery. For the Royals, Billy Butler's availability for daring exploits on the basepaths is in doubt at this hour. He exited yesterday's game early when his hand swelled after having been struck by a pitch.
Fun fact: Ron Wotus has been the bench coach for the last three Giants managers, Dusty Baker, Felipe Alou, and Bruce Bochy.
Personal note: my step-daughter and one of Horacio Ramirez's cousins attended the same middle school, somewhere in viticultural Northern California.
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Can someone explain the first thing to me
Not being an asshole — I just don’t get if it’s supposed to be funny or why people do it.
True, Blue Tradition.
It’s like the equivalent of our Willie Wilson basestealing award.
Waiting for April.
I knew this clash was coming
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
You can be the Buck to my Olivo
In all seriousness, with you, Will and I we are getting a serious Royals blogging contingent in DC.
With the sorry state that the Nationals are in due to greed and overzealous management (i’m looking at you Jim Bowden) the time may be ripe to move in on this vulnerable stronghold, a la William Jennings Bryan and the Populist Party.
Waiting for April.
seriously
how horrible is Bowden?
he went from being a bad GM with a weird personal life (ok, a typical make in position of power personal life) to being a — allegedly — much worse
I mean, it's DC
you get so used to hearing about this type of stuff in politics around here that i’m just kind of unfazed by corruption exposes in the media now. Sad, but true.
Waiting for April.
That said
As a GM, it must be really sad to feel compelled to commit extortion/bribery and the payoff is a C level prospect, a non-existent fan base and a guaranteed last place finish for like the next 5 years.
wtf was he thinking
Waiting for April.
I had really hoped
MLB would move the Expos to Portland and put it in the AL west. That way Pitt could go back to the NL East and all the divisions would be square again.
The Snozberries taste like Snozberries
I like it, but can we really handle a two front operation
the battle for Grass Creek is hardly over. call your iowa/nebraska/missouri/kansas senators
Waiting for April.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
in Grass Creek…Lets head east
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
You guys will have to
deal with the uber-excitement without me. I’ll be stuck in a Neb. Legislative hearing about the definition of “abandoned vehicle.”
Woo-freaking-hoo.
WTF, self?
It is only abandoned not unloved....
Every car was once someone’s first NEW automobile. Good luck those things can be boring…
Did you see the write up last week in the OWH
that Sarpy is getting closer to locking down the ORoyals
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
I pretty much dislike Nebraska for everything
besides Omaha Royals baseball and the CWS. Otherwise the only thing keeping me here at the current moment is the depressed housing market.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Is Ernie Chambers still around?
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Mar 2, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
He retired last year
I think God told him to after he sued him
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
The room my hearing was in
used to be Chambers’ office. I sort of miss his wardrobe. Purple t-shirts FTW!
The hearing was, in fact, boring, but mercifully brief. Now I must make it sound interesting in a story that only my teacher will read. Journalism school….yeah.
WTF, self?
I hated his outfits
Old men should cover up the guns even if they have them. LOL
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
No, in real life I agree with you.
HIs wardrobe was completely inappropriate. If bored journo students can dress appropriately for hearings, why can’t the actual senators?
WTF, self?
So, i am hoping for
HoRam to give up eleventy million runs in the first, and then us to score eleventy million and one runs in the rest of the game to win. Gordon to go 6-6 with 5 grand slams and a triple.
The Allard Baird of incisive internet discourse.
It would also be nice for Davies to come in after HoRam and pitch 3 shutout innings with some K's and few walks
It would be a nice side-by-side comparison with HoRam.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
i'd be rooting for dinardo
to take his place, but that would just mean more italian impersonations from lefevre.
HoRam doesn’t even have a spot on this team as a reliever.
How did Rosa and Barrera pitch yesterday? I saw that they both went an inning
without any damage.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Barrera walked his first batter on a full count and then got the next three hitters on just 9 pitches. Rosa retired the side on 5 pitches, according to the play-by-play archived here.
They don’t always get the pitch counts right in spring training, but I don’t remember anything different from what’s there.
Good deal
I wonder if they will start Barrera in the BP in Omaha as opposed to Arkansas.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
And it’s way wrong for Rosa in the 8th.
Johnson grounded out to second on the 7th pitch of his at bat with a 3-2 count.
Sandoval also grounded out to second, apparently on the 3rd pitch of his at bat (but the LA play-by-play guys were hardly paying attention at this point, so I don’t really know).
And Conger grounded out to 1st on a 1-1 count.
So, 3 ground balls and no strikeouts on approximately 13 pitches.
Feels like we got about 8 inches here in NYC
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Zing!
Nice one.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's wh...
…I just can’t
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Mar 2, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Cue Phil talking about real winter weather
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I just think it will be cool
2K9 has “living rosters” so as the rosters are changed throughout the year, the game reflects those changes, as well as surprising performances by relatively unknown players.
I hope the GM mode is quality so that I can use it as evidence against moves that DM did or did not make.
I'm getting The Show
for PS3. Should be a lot of fun. The graphics look unbelievable. And I’m pretty sure they will update the rosters too. I think the online leagues are drawing most of my attention.
Three things I want to see today
1. Complete Ho-Ram implosion – like 10 runs in 2/3 of an inning
2. Subsequent Davies domination – 3 IP, 5 K’s, 1 hit, no walks
3. I want to see a bench-clearing brawl, where Farnsworth runs from the bullpen to piledrive Jeremy Affeldt round 2.
Waiting for April.
I almost did too
I was going to post something about how the Giants are the one team that never seem to swap players with the Royals, like ever.
But then I checked their roster and saw Mr. Blister himself.
Waiting for April.
I want Ho-Ram to fail
Get that liberal lefty out of there and make way for a real American – a conservative righty
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Mar 2, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The liberal media wants to tell me that it's not okay for Ho-Ram to fail?
We know his policies of just relying on his left-handedness don’t work. Do I want the Royals to fail? No. But yes, I want Horacio Ramirez to fail.
Is it wrong for me
To cheer for HoRam to get rocked?
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Only if you're a Steelers fan.
We always did feel the same, We just saw it from a different point of view, Tangled up in blue.
-Bob Dylan
by Royal Kingdom on Mar 2, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
over in the grapefruit league,
Angel Berroa is 2-2 today with a double and a homer.
Maybe he had lasik surgery.
The Yanks with yet another great offseason move
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Starting lineups
Giants
1. Roberts, LF
2. Burriss, 2B
3. Lewis, DH
4. Bowker, 1B
5. Aurilia, 3B
6. Downs, RF
7. Uribe, SS
8. Holm, C
9. Torres, CF
Royals
1. Maier, CF
2. Bloomquist, SS
3. Ka’aihue, DH
4. Shealy, 1B
5. Pena, C
6. Smith, 3B
7. Costa, RF
8. Lubanski, LF
9. Callaspo, 2B
Wow, is this a B game?
That’s certainly the B lineup.
The immoderate moderator
by Scott McKinney on Mar 2, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't know Pena could catch!! And throw a mean deuce!! What a baller!!
Jayhawk baseball - a tradition since Steve Jeltz
Keep in mind that some players left for the WBC
So no Teahen, no Olivo, no Aviles, potentially no Guillen. That thins numbers out a bit
Waiting for April.
Omaha?
with a few small exceptions, that could essentially be Omaha’s starting lineup. Yuck.
"Greinke and the Brain" (R) (C) TM
by SittinByTheFoulPole on Mar 2, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Offense to which part?
The Omaha part of the “small” part because he and (unfortunately) Blooms are the exceptions I mentioned. (and Sheals unless he passes through waivers and accepts an outright assignment)
"Greinke and the Brain" (R) (C) TM
by SittinByTheFoulPole on Mar 2, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
If
this is the starting lineup, innings 5-9 are going to be un-listenable.
"Greinke and the Brain" (R) (C) TM
by SittinByTheFoulPole on Mar 2, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know if it was pure speculation, or if they heard something
But talk on 810 today was that Lenny DiNardo is emerging as a dark horse for the rotation, particularly if HoRam continues his mastery of sucking.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
I sure hope not
I mean, dude has thrown 4 innings. That’s it, and now all of a sudden he’s a rotation candidate?
Waiting for April.
He had a decent 2007
My god he was really awful in 2008 though wasn’t he. Seems to be a “pitch to contact” kinda guy.
I wish they’d get over their infatuation with needing a lefty in the rotation.
Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com
Denny Mathews first words
“I report to no one.” I think that is probably 100% true
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Mar 2, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
bunt single by Burriss
Today is going to be a battle of “doing the little things right”
Waiting for April.
He'll Be Forced
To retire.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Ramirez in both outings is definitely getting his share of ground balls
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
works better when they are fielded cleanly.
Go Royals!
Is Teahen Safely
North of the border?
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
two base error at first, Maier to third
Go Royals!
Bowker got Bowkered...
Aw the excellence that is Denny Mathews.
The Spork cant hit worth a crap
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Really Sucks For
Eating KFC’s 3-Bean Salad.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
HoRam's ERA
is now lower than Cain’s! Who says that ST stats are meaningless!
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel! - Homer Simpson
by aHorseWithNoName on Mar 2, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions
HoRam for Cain
i hear Sabean is already working the phones
Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.
Mitch, Too!
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
HoRam will not be able to succeed with this infield defense behind him.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Glad Jacobs Is
On the bench.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
If it didn't hit his glove it is called a hit.
Some stupid scoring rule in baseball I believe
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Although many scorekeepers have become reluctant to charge an error in cases like this, the scoring rule says that an error can be charged if the play could have been made with ordinary effort.
So that was an error. On the scorekeeper.
On a batted ball, yes, it has become common not to charge an error if the fielder just misses it, even if he’s standing right there. Don’t know why, other than that scorers nowadays don’t like to assess errors unless there’s really no alternative.
There is no alternative if a fielder misses a catchable throw, if runners advance because of the miss. Bowker got an error on a play like that on a pickoff attempt in the bottom of the 2nd.
So why one kind of missed catch is a hit and another’s an error, well, you’ll just have to ask the scorers. Makes no sense to me.
Bow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ker....
and here we go /…..forcing in runs… Come on H… get your shit together…
???
How is he supposed to get his shit together when every play this inning with the exception of the first hit should’ve been at least one out
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
3 E's In
A row are tough to forget.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
???
Every ball except the first one should’ve been an out, if not two. What more is he supposed to do?
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
God doesn't like him
That’s kind of hard to recover from.
The Allard Baird of incisive internet discourse.
Callaspo muffed a dp ball
Shealy muffed a dp throw, Maier should’ve caught a flyball and even Smith muffed a possible two outs instead just getting one. Other than getting a strikeout I don’t know what more he could do.
He actually pitched quite well today.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
That's What The
Doctor said when I was born.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
He Was Right.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yet another defensive gem to start us off
Go Royals!
HoRam actually pitched decently so far in both his
starts but was rebuffed by the defense in both
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
You know I always that that
GobbleforCyyoung guy was a bit different
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Lubes
I will remember these days for the rest of my life
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Maybe he will pass him in age someday?
Go Royals!
Berto can definitely hit
maybe we should put The Spork at 2b and DH Berto for him when Zack is pitching
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
i think kila's performance here is the only hitter's i care about.
maybe callaspo a little bit, too.
The outfield d usually isn't this bad
I would think it is far riskier living by the groundball with the KC defense
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Somehow, that OF KC ran out there
managed to combine for a 4-5 day with 4 runs, 3RBIs, and a walk.
ST stats are meaningless
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
I'm Looking For
20 from this lineup.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
He'll Score 10,
Drive in 10, and save 10 with his glove.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not that it would surprise me or anything
but are we taking as few pitches as indicated on the gametracker?
Pretty much
Kila drew a walk but other than that I don’t know who is really lookin at much
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
After reviewing a couple of innings of yesterday’s game, I’d say that during spring training the pitch-by-pitch accounts on Gameday are suspect.
KC's best middle infield will probably be playing in Omaha
with Tugger and Hernandez.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Good work Kyle
Quick and Easy just like Tomkos wife…Whoops that was a bit much
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
DRob had a pretty good walk total in the second half last year
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Costa, Maier, Lubanski
Our opening day OF.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
If it was...Allard would probably still be employed
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Costa > Guillen
I wish Costa would have had a shot at some point. I think he could have been Emil with better defense.
Founder of the Johnny Giavotella fan club.
But hey
he’s doing all the little things right, like hitting the other way to move the runners over. It’s just one out, anyway.
Those Two Posts
Together could be a “That’s what she said”.
I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.
by philofthenorth on Mar 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
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