Young pitchers that might become available next week
Really? Sidney Ponson is the best we can do? Here are some young pitchers that might become available in trade (or waivers?) in the next week or so that might prove to be an upgrade over Sir Sid, HoRam, and Brainy Banny.
RHP Chad Gaudin - Cubs
Age: 26
2008: 9-5 4.40 ERA 90 IP 71 K 27 BB 4.14 FIP
2009 ZIPS: 9-7 4.08
Gaudin comes with a $2 million salary, and was rumored to be possibly non-tendered, but the Cubs kept him. Now, with a crowded pen and rotation, he looks to be the odd man out. Gaudin was rushed to the big leagues at a young age and has shown flashes of brilliance, but inconsistency has kept him from bringing it all together. He's a strike thower, who can strike guys out with a 90 mph fastball, but had some stamina issues in Oakland.
RHP Angel Guzman - Cubs
Age: 27
2008: Pitched very few innings due to injury
2009 ZIPS: 2-3 5.04
Guzman is a former hot prospect who is now out of options and has failed to impress manager Lou Piniella. He was pretty good for the Cubs in 30 innings of work in 2007, but was hurt most of last year. He has struck out a batter an inning in his minor and major league career.
RHP Kyle Kendrick - Phillies
Age: 24
2008: 11-9 5.49 ERA 155 2/3 IP 68 K 57 BB 5.55 FIP
2009 ZIPS: 10-12 5.02
Kendrick lost out his rotation spot to Chan Ho Park and may be behind J.A. Happ and possibly Carlos Carrasco as well on the depth chart, putting him on the trading block. He had a very solid 2007, posting a 3.87 ERA in 20 starts with the Phillies, but regressed quite a bit last year. He's a sinkerball who doesn't strike out a ton of guys, much like Hochevar.
RHP Jeff Niemann - Rays
Age: 26
2008: 9-5 3.59 ERA 133 IP 128 K 50 BB 3.98 FIP (AAA)
2009 ZIPS: 7-9 5.06
Niemann was a pretty solid prospect a few years back, but has gotten a bit lost with all the great young arms that have come through the Rays system. He is huge, standing at 6'9'' 280, and despite shoulder concerns, he still has a low 90s fastball. He is out of options, but the Rays may be willing to stash him in the pen. He is probably going to command a higher price than the other pitchers listed.
LHP Tom Gorzelanny - Pirates
Age: 26
2008: 6-9 6.66 ERA 105 1/3 IP 67 K 70 BB 6.35 FIP
2009 ZIPS: 9-11 4.67
Gorzelanny was frankly, awful last year. But in 2007 he won 14 games with a 3.88 ERA until he suffered Bannister-disease. Some think he was overused in 2007, and he did seem to lose about 3 mph on his fastball last year. He was recently optioned to AAA, so the Pirates may want to hang on to him and see if he can turn it around, but he may be worth a flyer if the price is right, and the Pirates have certainly made lousy deals on talented players before.
RHP Jorge Campillo - Braves
Age: 30
2008: 8-7 3.91 ERA 158 2/3 IP 107 K 38 BB 4.00 FIP
2009 ZIPS: 5-6 4.50
Campillo is "young-ish", but he was excellent last season for the Braves, who acquired him from the Mariners for a washed up Horacio Ramirez (whatver happened to him?) With all the Braves acquisitions this off-season, Campillo seems destined for the pen, but he may also be good trade-bait, especially for an outfielder-starved team like Atlanta. Dayton knows him, and the guy is Mexican Tough.
LHP Ryan Rowland-Smith - Mariners
Age: 26
2008: 5-3 3.42 ERA 118 1/3 IP 77 K 48 BB 4.53 FIP
2009 ZIPS: 4-4 4.41
I think he'd definitely be an upgrade, but I think the Mariners want to hold on to him (he's appearing in TV commercials for the team). With Morrow and Batista moving to the pen, that opens up a spot for RRS, but the right deal could induce the Mariners into moving him. If only Bill Bavasi were still in charge.
Thoughts? Anyone else you would like to discuss? What would it take to acquire these guys? Would they be an upgrade over what we have now?
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You only want him
because he’s Australian.
This space for rent.
by jonfmorse on Apr 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised...
to see Niemann average a strikeout an inning. Looks like pretty good overall numbers as well. I would call that a huge improvement over Ponson.
by djk royal on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lots of somewhat interesting pitchers there
And while a guy like Ponson is a not awful, decent 5th starter option, each of the above pitchers is more interesting than both he and HoRam. They are all still at least somewhat young and have some interesting upside. I really have no idea what it would take to get any of those pitchers, but it would be worth DM taking a look. I really like Campillo, and so do the projection systems. However, I think the Braves like him too. He just lost out on the numbers game because they acquired a bunch of SP’s. He’ll likely sit in the bullpen for a while and eventually develop into a pretty good MLB SP.
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by NYRoyal on Mar 31, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But this is all theory
We’ll see whose available and who is better than our options….
I’d personally love to get some of these guys…
Everyone's recruits look better than ours.
by 306008 on Apr 2, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of options
Are only Guzman and Niemann out of options? Players out of options are going to be the only ones who can be had on the cheap. Lubanski and Costa for Niemann! Niemann’s mechanics are nightmarish and he’ll likely tear a labrum and/or have TJ surgery sometime in the next handful of years. But if the Royals could get him on the cheap, then whatever they get out of him would be gravy (just don’t give him a long-term deal).
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by NYRoyal on Mar 31, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I owned the Royals
I’d block DMGM from making calls to/receiving calls from the Rays FO. Either a) Billy Butler would end up being part of some trade somehow, or b) Costa and Lubanski will get sent, then end up being league average players.
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by devil_fingers on Mar 31, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting...a medical expert now too?
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Apr 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's called reading the opinions of experts and analysts and then reporting what I've read
Information is a good thing. I try to do more than rely on my own subjective guesstimates.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 2, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gravy.... or gritty?
Everyone's recruits look better than ours.
by 306008 on Apr 2, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only one Brave and one Mariner?
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
by Sweep_the_Leg on Mar 31, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Campillo was both!
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by RoyalsRetro on Mar 31, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew there was a reason I loved him
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by NYRoyal on Mar 31, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Moore really thinks we can contend,
and scouts/front office think Banny & Hoch would benefit from more minor league seasoning, then the obvious move would be to sign
PEDRO MARTINEZ
Of course, this would require another leap of faith from Grinch (aka Glass)
Mr Glass, this is a pro sports team, not a retail store - run it like one!
by loyal2sdad on Mar 31, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, he hit as many doubles as Willie B. did in 2008!
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by devil_fingers on Mar 31, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not right man
low blow!
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by JSouth on Mar 31, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Willie...
or Pedro?
"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae
by Sweep_the_Leg on Mar 31, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Grinch?"
This is the first time I’ve seen this nickname used. I love it.
by FretFriendly on Apr 2, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need to get Niemann right now
seriously, right now.
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by doublestix on Apr 1, 2009 3:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep...we need a pitcher now...
they would want to restock their lower minors…perfect fit
TPJ...you're dead to me
by billybeingbilly on Apr 1, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yusmeiro Petit
RHP Yusmeiro Petit -Diamondbacks
Age: 24
2008: 3-5 4.31 ERA 56 1/3 IP 42 K 14 BB 5.21 FIP
2008: 3-3 4.80 ERA 60 IP 67 K 8 BB 2.88 FIP (AAA)
2009 ZIPS: 5-8 5.07
Petit was once a top Mets prospect and was dealt with Mike Jacobs to the Marlins for Carlos Delgado. He continued to further slide and was eventually dealt to the Diamondbacks. He has a 3.41 minor league ERA with over a strikeout an inning and 4.4 strikeouts per walk. He’s very home run prone, giving up 31 long balls in just 131 MLB innings. He doesn’t have a great fastball, topping out in the high 80s, but he has a funky arm action and a good change up. He will likely make the D-Backs as a long reliever, but could make a decent starter for a team like the Royals.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 1, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It'd be nice to have a happy reunion!!
:)
Everyone's recruits look better than ours.
by 306008 on Apr 2, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him
Especially Bil James’ prediction. Could fit in well I think and I feel be a better fit because of his age than Ponson (who makes my stomach turn every time he touches the ball).
by clintox100 on Apr 1, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Micah Owings
He is in a battle for the #5 slot with the Reds. They have a decently deep staff of potential starters so he could probably be taken away relatively cheaply.
2007 Diamondbacks 8 8 4.30 29 27 2 1 0 0 152.2 651 146 81 73 20 50 2 14 5 0 106
2008 Diamondbacks 6 9 5.93 22 18 0 0 0 0 104.2 466 104 73 69 14 41 0 12 4 0 87
ZiPS 7.14 3.43 2.08 1.28 .274 1.44 .312 4.54
Marcel 7.10 3.29 2.16 1.10 .255 1.33 .294 69.9 % 4.48
CHONE 6.96 3.16 2.20 1.13 .257 1.33 .294 72.5 % 4.52
Bill James 6.94 3.28 2.12 0.99 .271 1.42 .315 4.39
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 1, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With him and Zack
We’d have the best hitting pitching staff in the AL. Joel Peralta too!
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 1, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's definitely an NL pitcher with his bat
I read that the were talking about making him a bullpen arm and pinch hitter.
by AxDxMx on Apr 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Banni is a decent hitter also
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 1, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad Gaudin released by the Cubs
He must have some mechanical issues, but I would trust McClure to work with the young kid. He still has good upside as a mid-rotation guy. I’d love the Royals to start him out in the pen and put him in the rotation in May when we release SId.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He would be a good pickup
send Waechter or Wright down.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 5, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love for them to pick Gaudin up
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by NYRoyal on Apr 6, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it'd be a GREAT pickup!!
Give it a chance!
Everyone's recruits look better than ours.
by 306008 on Apr 5, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Niemann dealt to the Rockies for a AA pitcher
Seems like a good swap for both teams.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 6, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw the following on MLBTR
SUNDAY 1:02pm: Joe Smith of the St. Petersburg Times reports Jason Hammel has been notified that he’s been dealt to the Rockies. Jeff Niemann will be the Rays fifth starter.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 6, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
Jason Hammel was traded to the Rox for Aneury Rodriquez. I don’t know much about Rodriguez except that he wasn’t on the Rox top 10 prospect list in BA or BP. On Sickels list, he was #8 (C+). From what I can find, he’s a 21-year-old live arm with good numbers through high-A. If he’s actually a pretty good prospect (clearly some think he isn’t), then this is a good trade for the Rays. If not, then not.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 6, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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