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Game Seven Open Thread - Indians (1-5) at Royals (3-3)

Cleveland Indians at Kansas City Royals, Apr 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT


Two weeks ago, in How the Royals Can Win the Central in Four Steps I noted that any scenario in which the Royals snuck in and won the Division was predicated on nobody in the Central being really really good, especially Cleveland, the favorite.

The Indians may not win the Division, but they're the one team that could win 95 games. I can't see a scenario whereupon the Royals get to that level. Not yet. So simply put, the Indians can't have a great year. The Central needs to stay manageable, like it was last year, when two third-place teams (American League scale) battled it out for the division "crown". Considering the Royals will play 54 games against the Tigers, White Sox, and Twins, it would help if this trio could be as weak as possible, but mainly, it's all about having everyone under 90 wins. Odds of this happening: 60%.

Well, so far so good on that count. Thanks in part to the Tribe's slow start, according to BP's PECOTA-influenced playoff odds report, in the current simulations, everyone's average wins in the division are at 83 wins or lower. In the AL East meanwhile, although the three-headed monster is off to a collective "meh" start, they're all still spitting out tons of 90+ win seasons.

There's something like 1400 innings of baseball left this season, so needless to say, things can and will change. So far however, the season is breaking well for the Royals. (Save for a possibly spry club in Detroit... everyone in the division would benefit from a Tiger slow-start + teardown.)

Your pitching matchup is Fausto Carmona v. Zack Greinke.

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eh,

i’ll try anything once.

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on Apr 13, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Apr 13, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yay

i win

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on Apr 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

i've got a sweet booster meeting

at my new school of employment, which should almost perfectly coincide with the game, so have fun.

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on Apr 13, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

great timing

good luck with the booster clubs….gotta love their support and $$$$$$$$$

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

until they make your coach who has won a state championship and just finished runner up

coach at East Dillon High, so they can hire Wade Aikman.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel good about todays game

mostly because I need to. Randy Johnson got torched today for my fantasy team and if there is one thing I don’t like on Monday’s its my fantasy pitchers putting me in a hole for the week.

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

and on that note

thank god we’re not the giants!

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have RJ too

17.18 ERA is no good?

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Apr 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i left after the first for class

get home and first thing I see is 11-1 dodgers. I wanted to go jump off the fire escape.

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

plus I have both Xaq and Fausto tonight…

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland's so bad so far

that we might be in first place by the time we’re done with them.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Apr 13, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

mmm

yet another baseball game ruined by my freaking job.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I work at the front desk in a residence hall

so I can listen to teh game, but there is no TV to watch it on.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty lofty

unfortunately, it won’t last. Next year i’ll be a CA (which is an RA at other schools)

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt she does...cmsu didn't do that when i was there...

by the way…i saw CMSU was on ESPN2 the other night in the Women’s College Bowling National Championship against Nebraska……….unfortunately they lost—-it’s the third time this decade that they’ve lost in the championship to the Nubs.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

we totally do that stuff now

my building doesn’t have a ping pong table, but if people need to get cleaning supplies and stuff, that’s what I’m here for.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got moufs to feed

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

maybe my disappointing monday so far could be tempered with a little BJ Upton awesomeness.

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

yup

doin that work.

upton with a walk and a steal. I wish to God we had an Upton.

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an Upton

on my fantasy team.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ stole second and third

Hillman would get all like this if that happened:

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you just referenced JIMP

I cannot believe this.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the...photo...

?

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was more of an 'omg someone on this site knows about that'

than ‘omg that’s obscene’

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are of that generation

it is required of us to know these things

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on Apr 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got a box

that I’ve been meaning to give someone….

by powderbluepower on Apr 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

dot dot dot

step one: cut a hole in the box.

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royals lineup

Enjoy

C. Crisp cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .217
M. Aviles 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .190
D. DeJesus lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .174
M. Teahen rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
B. Butler 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .059
M. Jacobs dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .176
A. Callaspo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308
M. Olivo c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .214
T. Pena Jr. ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

The immoderate moderator

by Scott McKinney on Apr 13, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Boo x1,000

on our starting SS.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's times like these...

that make me wish that we could use the DH for a position player and let the pitcher hit for himself. I think that Zack is a better hitter than TPJ……Unfortunately, that’s not how the rule was written.

Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel! - Homer Simpson

by aHorseWithNoName on Apr 13, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was under the impression

you can use it for anyone in the field. Maybe i’m wrong there.

by wildthang on Apr 13, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...DH has to be for P in MLB...

HS it can be anyone
College you can let the pitcher bat if you want—-but he’s treated as a DH

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the MLB

The DH can only be used for the pitcher (it’s also “optional” – no AL manager HAS to use the DH). I actually looked this rule up when we had Neifi “Pop Up” Perez.

Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel! - Homer Simpson

by aHorseWithNoName on Apr 13, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP

Harry Kalas and Mark “The Bird” Fidrych.

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 13, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Indians lineup

Tony-G is still playing baseball? I really had no idea.

G. Sizemore cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
S. Choo rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .353
V. Martinez c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320
T. Hafner dh 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
J. Peralta ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
R. Garko 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
T. Graffanino 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
T. Crowe lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .111
A. Cabrera 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .158

The immoderate moderator

by Scott McKinney on Apr 13, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I've got to agree with this...
Show him no mercy.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

by Sweep_the_Leg on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

TPJ can't be denied

and of course you bench Buck, he may have went 3 for 4, but he made an out yesterday too

by BHWick on Apr 13, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

not enough outs

Im’ sure glad TPJ is only being used as a defensive replacement. Well, played, Dayton Moore. Just tremenous roster work all around.

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by Matt Klaassen on Apr 13, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just happy the Royals have them

both. I mean, two defensive studs like that? so many great options. And three catchers…

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by Matt Klaassen on Apr 13, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

TPJ or Bloomy had to be in the game…..unless we wanted to throw Brayan Pena in at third or RF…..which may be the better choice

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I posted on the other thread

Hillman – “Bloomquist is a little stiff after that dive & slide in the wet grass yesterday, so I wanted to get him some rest.”

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on Apr 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

See? Playing hard does have its benefits

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on Apr 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decisions, decisions...

Wrasslin’ or Royals… TPJ has me thinkin’ RAW, but HHH has me thinkin’ Royals…

I’m sure I’ll know soon enough.

Farny being Farny.

by JobDDT on Apr 13, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm doing my taxes finally.

Ugh.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

^.^

Farny being Farny.

by JobDDT on Apr 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact

Zack Greinke is currently rocking a 20 Inning Scoreless Streak

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Apr 13, 2009 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah

he is coming for Oral’s record

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on Apr 13, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zack is a pretty good OF.....

at least shagging fly balls in BP….he is all-out. Most of the pitchers just stand and talk, catching a ball only if it comes to them. Zack covers ground and runs balls down all over the gaps. He was flying all over in New York last year during BP.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I thought the silly overreactions didn't start until the game started

If TPJ ever makes a start, no matter who is injured, it’s an apocalypse! Gookie Dawkins would have made everything better. I guess sometimes the whackiness starts early. Ok, time for me to go.

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by Scott McKinney on Apr 13, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like him on the team, but hey

The Spork isn’t playing because TPJ is. At least the auto-outs come from someone else today. And who knows, TPJ can’t be as bad as he was last year. Can he?

by AxDxMx on Apr 13, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 automatic outs in the lineup

in Pena & Olivo. A questionable 3rd auto-out in Jacobs.

At least we have more players with some track record of working the count – like Teahen (instead of Guillen), DeJesus, Crisp (sorta)….

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I just have zero confidence when Jacobs steps to the plate

Yes, I like the (isolated) power, but I fear he will chance a pitch that is at least 5 feet outside the strike zone each time. It just looks like he has no definitive ‘plan’, like Olivo, Pena, and many more Moore acquisitions.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the

drunk college kid at 3 a.m. metaphor Will made.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

His plan is, wait for it, are you ready?

HIT HOME RUNS AR RAR RAR

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, Mets are on ESPN

Jose Reyes overslides second base and is awarded a single.

Why isn’t this a double since he OVERslid the base? I mean, technically, he got there and just kept going.

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on Apr 13, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you have to be safe on the play

Like, that was all one play

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if had been running, and overran it...

Ah whatever, the Royals game is on now, I don’t care anymore

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on Apr 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butler dived to knock down a ball.

Couldn’t make a play at first. Saved a run though, the ball was hit hard.

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omaha here

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just south of KC here,

not blacked out.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

Interesting. It is cold as molasses – I’m actually glad I’m @ home.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least Billy knocked it down

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I read today...

that Manny wants to end his career in Cleveland with Thome, not sure what how I feel about that.

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Frustrating that Ponson and HoRam, for the life of them, could never get K’s in that spot on a consistent basis. See, that’s why the pitchers with upside are much better candidates – preventing the big inning, working out of jams, etc.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I'm a little late getting in

But I would just like to be on record as saying:

FUCK THIS LINE-UP AND FUCK TPJ!!

by FretFriendly on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm predicting 27 K's for Xaq tonight

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Im sure this has been said already...

But Id rather have Bloomy at 3rd, with Aviles at short… then that happened

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

TPJ - great play

Not sure Aviles would have made that one

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Teahen would have though

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-0

working the count…

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to sound elitist

But I’m going to start ridiculing the city and casual fans if attendance doesn’t increase markedly this year. All those fans at FanFest and the Caravan stops…nowhere to be found, come crunchtime.

I say this b/c the crowd looks extremely sparse tonight. I know, the weather is crummy, but still. Hey, I have the right to be irrational, don’t I?

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but

60 degrees and cloudy….how many fans would there be? I’m skeptical, but….I see your point.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just recently stoped raining...

… I think a lot of people thought the game would get rained out.

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

I’ll grant them a pass tonight, but if we avg. below 10K for weekday games in April and September again this year, then I can complain incessantly.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it wasn't a 3 hour drive to the K

I would go to a hell of a lot more games

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice glove, Fausto

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

shoulda benched

Carmona in my fantasy league

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vicious check swing foul there

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Carmona

Continuing that fine recent tradition of Indians pitcher who wear their uniform similar to the way Martin Lawrence instructed the royalty to wear their attire in the classic comedy film Black Knight.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

that

and what woman really wants to be with Martin Lawrence?

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 13, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but I bet he does well in real life, i mean, he is famous and rich

by Freneau on Apr 13, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Say “King, I’m sorry!” Say, “King, that’s my ass!” I loved that film.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is better at coaching to play the game the right way?

Trey Hillman or Eric Wedge?

Huge tossup. We may get the edge by virtue of having JOhn Gibbons as our bench coach.

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont forget Gibbons...

Intentionally walked TPJ last year

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gibbons has the horrible people skills

Wedge has the strange personal appearance (dude is barely 40!)

push

by Freneau on Apr 13, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Runners on 1st and 2nd in the first inning,

has that happened yet this year?

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on Apr 13, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

FSN Kansas City needs to work on their camera work

Missed Pena’s throw and then couldn’t tell if Crowe would make the catch. Also, how bout some HD?

by Ken Harvey on Apr 13, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

And thats why Teahen

is hitting clean up

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What is this?

I believe it is called an offense!

by Ken Harvey on Apr 13, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

crap single

1-0 Royals. I know I shouldn’t be complaining, but I wish someone other than Buck would just hit the crap out of the ball.

Seems like we’ve scored all our runs this year on bloopers and errors

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It looked like a decently hit ball to me

No, not a scorching liner, but it didn’t look like a blooper to me.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Billy is due

get that average over .100 baby!

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

RUNS!

in the plural! RunS!

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Bring in Farsnworth

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohno

don’t even joke about that shit.

/emotional scars

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news

Nobody is on 1st, jacobs can’t hit into a double play

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

never understimate the power...

of the goat beard

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, have some faith

he’ll find a way

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

we’re on pace for 4.5 hours. I forgot Cleveland batted already it’s been so long. :)

by AxDxMx on Apr 13, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am looking forward to witnessing the new K for the first time

I just loathe games where I’m freezing my arse off. And I know I contradicted myself, a bit, above…but I attend a fair share per year.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Warren Sapp

eat your heart out

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I like dark women.” ~ Mike Jacobs (paraphrase)

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fails again to get the run in

Mike jacobs, you are teh suck

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly what you don't what with one out and two in scoring position

ball hit in the air but not deep enough to score anyone

nice going, mike

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Next time HoRam takes the mound...

just be thankful we dont have Carmona

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd rather have Carmona, actually

he was dominant a few years ago…..that has never happened with horam

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

but by that logic...

so was Zito

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

even at...

Zito’s 18 trillion dollar contract?

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Respect the Bert!

Wish it was Buck following him in the line-up today though!

by Ken Harvey on Apr 13, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not whether or not he will get the whiff...

its will he actually take a ball?

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coulda had more

but you really can’t complain about 3 runs and 42 pitches

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is Cleveland's bullpen?

At this rate we’ll be slashing into it in the 3rd

by FretFriendly on Apr 13, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that great......but they have strikeout potential

the normal guys like Betancourt, Jensen Lewis, Rafael Perez, Kobayashi, Zach Jackson, and the Joe Smith guy they got in that trade with the Mets/mariners

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miggy

Buck would have just gotten a single there

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

3 runs

Enough of a cushion for Zach?

I’d think so, but then again, I thought that about Gil yesterday…

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Apr 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

the indians can hit

luckily, their bullpen is shot

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I all of a sudden...

feel very stupid for thinking the Indians would win this division.

To they have any pitching help in their system?

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Couple guys

Laffey and someone else in AAA whose name I can’t remember

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

here are their AAA pitchers

not a lot…Tomo Ohka, Greg Aquno, Kirk Sarloos, Jeremy Sowers….but I think the Meloan kid may be pretty good….can’t remember now

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&did=milb&cid=445

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olivo...

is on pace for 256 K’s this year… Lincicum numbers there

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Weird strike zone

That looked like a ball; but then 3 pitches earlier looked like a strike.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

If we had at leat one...

legitimate threat at the plate… A Pujols or Manny type hitter, I wouldn’t care if TPJ was our shortstop

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he really was available at..

the league minimum last year, why the hell not.

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Milton Bradley trade that wasn't

He would likely be our WAR leader for ‘08 (and maybe ’07 June-September). Then, we could have netted two draft picks for him. What an excellent deal that wasn’t. And he would still (obviously) be our best hitter. All for Leo Nunez. Bizarre that Billy Beane evidently proposed that trade.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we had Milton Bradley...

would he have still gone after Ryan?

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somthing tells me that minus bloomquist at 2B, this is the best IF defense the Royals can muster

Though I don’t know the statistics, I’m guessing that Aviles is a better defender at 3B instead of SS

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

4 whiffs through 2

37 pitches though

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Greinke is the Royal...

that I will miss the most… More than Beltran or Damon

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike, swinging at the first pitch,r eally?

At least he hit it hard

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Definitely

grady

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on Apr 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

zack has just totally lost the zone

racking up a ton of pitches

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

bartolo colon

for cliff lee, grady sizemore, and brandon phillips – most lopsided trade of the past 15 years?

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

its up there, thats for sure

Zambrano for Kazmir is up there too

Blown Save

by BlownSave on Apr 13, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably....

Liriano and Joe Nathan for AJ Pierzynski is in the same ballpark
Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez for Adam Eaton, and Akinori Otsuka isn’t good either
also, Texas’ Soriano trade was not good either

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 13, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

A Mr. Coffee, a Linens ‘n’ Things gift certificate, and a used thong for Neifi Perez would have been lopsided. But we threw in actual personnel…

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Apr 13, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, Burrito.

Pitch like we know you can!

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Clearly

Greinke is trying step up the triple play.

by RoyalsFanInBillings on Apr 13, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Zach looks really uncomfortable out their right now

Kinda like Joba yesterday when the Royals scored their runs off of him

by Ken Harvey on Apr 13, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding

Hope that head umpire is at this game (as always).

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

goddammit

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Shitballs.

Come on Zack/defense, get out of this.

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

need a double play ball

zack is running counts too high. it’s like he’s trying for K’s. let the defense play behind you

Waiting for April.

by DC Royal on Apr 13, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

The umpire hates that pitch

Grrrrr….low and away….GRRRRR! (Beats the ground in that direction….)

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, 67 pitches already

not going deep into this one

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

What?

Dude, he can totally go for a complete game 201-pitch outing.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, baby

See, this is why I love pitchers with actual out pitches (Ponson & HoRam excluded). Working their way out of jams. If PonRam gets two runners on with less than 2 out….forget it.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

And Hoch has a very projectable out pitch in the making

Which makes the decision yet more baffling. And, yes, I understand Luke had 2-out issues last year. Banny doesn’t possess an out pitch. Even Duckworth looked like he had a decent curve at times last year. Ponson and HoRam have to rely on 68,000 batted balls and flawless defense to work their way out of each inning. If Ponson pitches with 1-2 and 0 out and bases loaded, 1 out…two runs come in, if we’re lucky.

by Royals Nation on Apr 13, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Struck him out

7 K’sin 3 innings, 68 pitches

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my god Greinke

don’t play with my heart that much!

Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too. ~Greg, age 8

by loyal2theroyals on Apr 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

No amount of squinting makes ours look like a major league lineup tonight.

Zack’s pitch count doesn’t bode well for us. Hopefully he settles down

by sterlingice on Apr 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

news on Gordon:

The wet conditions Monday prompted Royals manager Trey Hillman to wait one more day before allowing third baseman Alex Gordon to test his sore right hip by returning to the lineup.

-dutton

The Alex Gordon era - www.number4thesmirk.com

by CollininCalifornia on Apr 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Even when zack sucks

he doesn’t ’really suck

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

zack greinke 2009 so far

9IP, 14K’s

realistically speaking

by slayor on Apr 13, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Arby's,

What the eff is “Chicken Addiction Sauce?”

Love,
Minda

WTF, self?

by minda33 on Apr 13, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I know that it is early

but I am starting to get down on Miggy
I almost feel like it would be a mistake if he actually put a ball in play.

"Things could always be worse." - Buddy Bell

by buddyball on Apr 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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