We Have an Early Candidate for "Win of the Year" Thanks to Coco Crisp & Kyle Davies
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
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- Most projection systems have Coco Crisp hitting seven homers this year. Hopefully the next six will be equally well-timed. Coco was feeling good last night, so I imagine he's pretty happy right now.
- Coco's homer was even more gigantic because it not only gave the Royals the lead, it likely replaced Kyle Farnsworth with The Mexicutioner. This is like being setup on a date with Seth Rogen only to find out that he can't make it, and has been replaced with Hugh Jackman. (Reaching out to 5% of the RR audience here with this one...)
- Of course, we're now setup for Farnsy's revenge series against the Yankees now.
- Kyle Davies probably pitched the best game of his career this afternoon. Davies allowed just three hits and two walks over seven innings, striking out eight. I don't think Davies is going to go 22-0 with a 0.00 ERA this season, and I should point out that Banny was also brilliant in his first start last season, but if Davies has made the leap (to use a Simmonism) then everything changes for this team. The only game in Davies's canon that may be better was last September's white wash of the hated Mariners.
- Butler played some first base today! How did he look?
- Lest we forget, the Royals were able to hold on because Bert Callaspo was on-base when Coco homered.
- Neither closer had much today, or so it appeared in the box score. Of course, Jenks gets a free pass because it wasn't a "save situation," and we all understand that pitchers only perform well in pre-determined situations. Closers, can only handle the pressure of protecting a lead in the 9th inning. A tie game, despite having less margin for error, isn't as pressure packed, so they relax. We saw the results today... As for Soria, he survived, but plainly seemed to be missing a little bit control-wise. He may not be available for tomorrow's game.
- The AL record for strikeouts in a season is 1,268, set by the 1999 Tigers. After three games, the Royal hitters have struck out 31 times... meaning they're on pace for 1,673.
- According to complex mathematical modeling program, the Royals will score two runs for every game this season.
- Be sure to check out NYRoyals amateur scouting report.
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Butler dropped a possible double play ball
so slightly below average. He looked putrid at the plate yet again.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Butler looked like Butler in the field
Competent, but not smooth, a lot like Teahen at second base. And Butler has looked horrible at the plate in the first three games.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't like the Cards
but Carpenter must have been his old self again. 1h 0er 7 ip
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's very good when healthy
Both Carpenter and Ben Sheets are big assets to their teams when they are healthy, and big liabilities when they aren’t.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watched the first 3 innings and at one point he had thrown 33 pitches and 28 for strikes.
I'd rather be watching baseball.
by Sisquatch Kids on Apr 9, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see the game today
but I followed it via Gameday for the better part of the second half. Great win. I would say our top three starters have out performed the top three of every other team in the AL and/or the NL. I don’t haven’t checked the numbers, but wow. Great job to Meche, Grienke and Davies. I am hopeful that trend continues.
Pitching > Hitting…. where the heck are the sticks fellas? I know it’s not Arizona, but come on.
by FretFriendly on Apr 9, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, two runs per game probably isn't going to get it done this year
Meche, Greinke and Davies can’t start every game. And they aren’t going to be dominant in every game. The bats are going to have to wake up. That being said, the Royals faced some good pitchers in these games. I don’t think Floyd is a particularly good pitcher, but his stuff was as good or better than I’ve ever seen from him, so I think he was at his best in that game.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Davies looked excellent as much as I saw. Same with Zaq and Meche. We need freaking run support – or I’m never going to win the Big Prediction Contest.
Sir Sid against HGH Pettitte. I think we’ll definitely need more run support to christen The K properly in this one.
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by kabrink on Apr 9, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arms are always ahead of the bats in April
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will win games with pitching
As much as I loved the stat crazy hitting in Spring Training, this is where we should win games, with the young arms.
Obviously we gotta have more stick than we have, but this team has to win on the mound.
GREAT start to the year.
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by Dubya on Apr 9, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guillen
Hopefully he’ll be OK. Looked like a hamstring.
by sal fasano on Apr 9, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind him going on the DL
I don’t like injuries, but that would make the Royals a better team.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not if they use Bloomie to replace him in the lineup
Which I could see happening
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I really think it would be:
RF: Teahen
2B: Callaspo/Bloomquist
That is an offensive and defensive upgrade in RF. At 2B you’d have a mix of decent hitting (Callaspo) and good defense (Bloomquist). Even with Bloomy sharing time at 2B with Callaspo, I think the above usage makes for a better lineup than Guillen in RF and Teahen at 2B.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that it's definitive
but TotalZone has Callaspo better than Bloomquist at second
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I missed him getting injured
I saw him STEAL A BASE!?!?!?!?!?!
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by kabrink on Apr 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, what was up with him stealing a base? Bizarre
And he injured himself in his last at bat. As he was running to first base, he pulled up lame, limping badly. There was no twisted ankle or knee, so it was probably a pulled muscle. It looked significant.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't look good
But I didn’t think it looked like a Hammy, I thought it looked like either a cramp or a lower leg event – He seemed to want to grab for his right achiles area
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Apr 9, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be
Could have pulled or partially torn his achilles tendon. I’d be shocked if he played tomorrow. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if he went on the 15-day DL.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's the achilles
you can call that a career.
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by kabrink on Apr 9, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps if it is fully torn or ruptured
But if it is only a pull or partial tear, it’s just a DL stint.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I expect
to see him on the DL tomorrow to make room for Ponson…Teahen moves to the OF, and AC/Bloomy platoon 2B
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Apr 9, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't envy the guy who has to tell JoGui he's going on the DL
by Top Ramen on Apr 9, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he shouldn't get hurt then?
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on Apr 9, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll operate on his own achilles
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by kabrink on Apr 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ponson v. Pettitte in Game 4
could get ugly
Waiting for April.
by DC Royal on Apr 9, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Given how the Yankees played in games 1 and 2, it could be ugly for the Royals, Yankees or both
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun stat of the day
Yankee starting pitchers have as many strikeouts this season as I do.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, really?
No strikeouts in three games? That’s amazing.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is there nothing Arod won't ruin?
(shakes head)
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soria wasn't at his best
His control was a little off and he really didn’t have a feel for his big, looping, slow curveball today. But he’s a good pitcher, so he still got the job done. And I don’t think you have to worry about his availability for tomorrow. Managers don’t like using any reliever on three consecutive days, but if tomorrow’s game is close in the 9th, Soria will get the call. Hillman used him on three consecutive days four times last year (including 4 days in a row once).
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting...
we have a weird 3 o’clock start tomorrow… which may be a minor factor or probably not
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All Hillman snark aside, I think we can count on no 8th inning appearance from Soria tomorrow
If he appears, it would likely be only in a 9th inning save situation.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be interesting to see what Hillman would do tomorrow
if the Royals have a 3 run lead heading into the 9th tomorrow. Would he go to Soria again?
by Top Ramen on Apr 9, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question
There really wouldn’t be any good reason to go with Soria in that case. A 3-run lead to start the bottom of the 9th inning isn’t a high leverage situation. It’s not even moderate leverage. You don’t need to use your best reliever and then have him limited for the next game. But if Hillman might be tempted to use Farnsworth, perhaps Soria would be the better choice. I’d probably put in Cruz or Tejeda.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coco looked great all series long and really justified his spot at the top of the order
thru 3 games. Great plate approach seeing multiple pitches every at bat and then a couple nice pops.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
He showed he can cover ground in center.
by 2X2L on Apr 9, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still say fip him and DDJ if there's a lefty batty third
but that’s not an insult to CoCo — the #2 spot is one of the most important spots. He’s been great so far, shades of 2005 CoCo.
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's already
+1 WAR, right?
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by kabrink on Apr 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we went to Chicago
and outscored the Chisox 6-5 in the 3-game series. Won 2, lost 1, and that’s a good outcome.
There was that gutpunch on Opening Day though to keep us humble. Can’t remember the details now. Something about misuse of a lefty specialist?
by 2X2L on Apr 9, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's about time we started playing the game the right way
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can we be the new Twins
with all these old Braves?
by 2X2L on Apr 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know that
many, and perhaps most, functional elements in the genome remain unknown?
Kind of like all those hours Hillman supposedly works.
by 2X2L on Apr 9, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to miss the last half of the game
But I got back to the hotel and immediately started going through the game threads without looking at the result first. It was almost like following along live, I actually got some goosebumps when the first comment was made about Coco’s HR. Felt kind of weird to be celebrating by myself an hour or so after the fact, but hey that’s what RR does to you right?
Great win, Davies was huge as was Mahay pitching a scoreless inning.
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by JSouth on Apr 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting!
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do the same thing when I miss a game
I was following the game via Gameday on my mobile… I had a similar reaction to yours when the screen refreshed and display 2-0 Royals. Excellence.
by FretFriendly on Apr 9, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get your cheeseburgers ready!
yankees come to town tomorrow
where tpj happens.
by blue bandwagon on Apr 9, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please don't throw batteries at the Yankee players
(But if you do, make it a size C or bigger. Anything worth doing is worth doing right.)
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Davies
The only game in Davies’s canon that may be better was last September’s white wash of the hated Mariners.
Well, in that game, Davies did most of his damage against September callups (racking up five strikeouts against Tug Hulett and Luis Valbuena alone).
One thing to watch with Davies is the number of swinging strikes he can induce. Obviously, there is a close connection between swinging strikes and strikeouts. For his career, Davies swinging strike rate has hovered around 7% (below average) but improved slightly last year to 8% (roughly average). In the past, Davies has had trouble getting strikeouts, which had been a big problem because he gave up lots of walks and homers too.
Last year, he still struggled to get strikeouts despite the uptick in his swinging strike rate, but he succeeded largely due to a low home run rate. Unfortunately, because the low home run rate was largely based on an unusually low rate of fly balls staying within the yard, his low home rate is unlikely to repeat at that level (not unlike Bannister’s BABIP from 2007 to 2008). But Davies can offset that expected rise in home runs allowed by getting more swinging strikes and striking out more hitters.
Today, Davies did just that. By my count, he had 12 swinging strikes in 103 pitches, good for a 11.7% rate. I doubt he can maintain that high of rate — the White Sox lineup this year appears heavy on hackers — but if he can improve his swinging strike rate to even to 9% (while keeping the walks in check like today), Davies should find success.
by Gopherballs on Apr 9, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He talked in the postgame show
about how he used a cutter. He has been tinkering with the pitch for 4 years according him but finally found a grip that he likes. He hasn’t used a cutter much (I think) prior so hopefully that will lead to more missed bats and less solid contact.
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting
Yeah, I think he’s been strictly a 4-pitch pitcher before this year (FB, CH, SL, CV) and this is all Pitch f/x has recognized (except for a tiny sprinkling of pitches the system couldn’t classify). Mixing in a cutter should be interesting. I don’t know how much he used it today, but adding another decent pitch that he can control is always a good thing.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan and Frank noticed the new cutter and mentioned it during the broadcast. If it was just a couple of pitches they probably wouldn’t have mentioned it, but they saw it enough to call it out.
by 2X2L on Apr 9, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was looking at Brooks F/x
and it showed his Slider at 87-89mph. I wonder if that was his cutter. 19 pitches
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by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that is true, then he replaced his slider with a cutter
…which is fine if he’s getting good movement on the cutter.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, didn't know that
Sounds very promising.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
indians 0-3
carl pavano’s ERA is 81.00
and… he’s on my fantasy team
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you took him in any round prior to the 20th
I am disappointed in you
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by JSouth on Apr 9, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he picked him up as a post-draft FA
I considered him as well.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is...
now i’m sucked in… do i cut him now or give him another start on the “hey cant be worse” logic
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, well he probably won't be worse than this outing
He’s very likely to improve over 1 ip, 9 er. But is he going to be decent? It’s really hard to say.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SUNK COST!
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will, I have two words for you.
“Brett Tomko.”
Would you like two more?
This space for rent.
by jonfmorse on Apr 9, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and...
he’s probably not the worst starter in the division… that would go to… SIR SIDNEY PONSON!!!! get your cheeseburgers ready!
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by blue bandwagon on Apr 9, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that's true
When was the last time Pavano did anything good on the mound? Ponson at least did some good last year and in 9 innings in the WBC.
(I’m not sure if I’m actually sarcastic or not.)
by BrRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think willis has to be in the running as well
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ho-Ram is outraged
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A side note from this series on managing mistakes
Ozzie Guillen, viewed as a good manager by some, made at least one really stupid mistake in each of the three games.
Game 1
1. D. Wise
2. C. Getz
Game 2
1. D. Wise
2. C. Getz
Game 3
1. C. Getz
2. A.J. Pierzynski
By any theory of lineup construction, the first two spots in the lineup are important. Sabermetric lineup optimization sees these two spots as critically important. And Ozzie managed to put two of the Sox worst hitters in those two spots in each game. Wise, by any estimation, sucks at the plate (but he’s speedy!). Getz is a decent prospect, but there’s no reason to believe he’s ready to be a good hitter quite yet, which is what you need in the #2 spot. A.J. Pierzynski is a competent #8 hitter. In the #2 spot, his merely-ok-for-a-catcher hitting is overexposed.
Managers make a lot of mistakes.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Getz won't be there long
Gordon Beckham tore it up this spring and if he hits well at AA I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get a call up early this season after service time isn’t an issue. Also Fields looked pretty mediocre at the dish although his defense seemed to makeup for it.
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by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really like Getz a lot
And Getz isn’t the problem so much as Wise. Getz may be fine for the bottom of the order. And I’d be shocked if Beckham was in Chicago before September call-ups. And then I think he’ll only get token playing time. Despite a good spring, I don’t think he’s ready for an ultra-rush job.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Wise sticks around long
KW was said to be looking for a CF/leadoff man the last few weeks of ST. I’d bet he pulls off a trade in the next month or so.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that sounds like Kenny
The problem is that this is a difficult time to make a trade for a good player. Teams aren’t yet interested in trading away genuine talent, and the late spring training moves have all been made. Unless he’s really willing to give away a good prospect, I think all he could pick up is more Wise-like junk until the summer.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we'd hung onto Joey Gathright!
We’d be able to demand top prospects from the Sox!
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ozzie is great with pitchers
dumb with the lineup
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would dispute that first part
More than a few White Sox fans would too.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what have been his mistakes
the white sox have had some good pens (they were a monster last year) and he’s been excellent at working his pitchers right to the sweet spot, but not over
by royalsreview on Apr 9, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, the amount and degree of talent in the White Sox pen has nothing to do with Ozzie. He doesn’t put the pen together. He works with the talent that Kenny Williams gives him. Second, I completely disagree that he’s good at keeping his pitchers in just long enough. He has a long and storied history of leaving starters in too long (they talk about this at Soxtalk.com all the time). He has often said to the sports media that he really wants to keep starting pitchers in the game long enough for them to get the win. That doesn’t just mean hitting the 5-inning minimum. He wants to keep the starter in until the team gets a lead. This leads him to often wait until a starter gets clobbered before pulling him. And he doesn’t just wait until the starter begins to get hit. He waits several batters after the SP is clearly gassed, after having given up multiple runs and with runners still on. I believe back in 2007 Javier Vazquez had a pattern just about the whole year of pitching well until the 6th inning when he’d implode. This happened again and again and again, and yet Ozzie acted like he was blissfully ignorant of the pattern and kept leaving Vazquez in, deep into the 6th inning, letting him give up hit after hit. Ozzie really wants his starters to go deep into games and this desire leads him to make some really bad decisions.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(2006,2008)
I believe back in 2007 Javier Vazquez had a pattern just about the whole year of pitching well until the 6th inning when he’d implode.
Fixed
He was a stud in 07.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 10, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love talking about lineups, and that's a bad one
but those guys at the top only cost a few runs over a season relative to the the optimal #1 and #2 guys. Without running the numbers (or knowing how off the top of my head), I think you could make an argument that hitting Getz/Wise/AJ at the top of the lineup the whole year isn’t as bad a decision as having Farnsworth pitch to Thome just that once.
Not to relive it or bag on Hillman, but that’s just the nature of the high leverage situation vs. the impact of lineups.
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I recognize that batting orders are of little importance
But that doesn’t keep us from talking about it at length. But I don’t know if your comparison of decisions was intentionally hyperbolic. I assume you are talking about the outcome of the Farnsworth decision, as opposed to the likely run difference between having Farnsy face Thome in that situation vs. having Mahay, Cruz or Soria face him.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why I brought of leverage
that’s why relievers get paid more per run saved than starters. Well, the ones who are expected to pitch in high leverage situations. In term sof runs, no… but in terms of Wins, yes.
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And my underlying point is that no manager does engages in optimal reliever usage. Every manager reserves his closer for save situations in the 9th inning, except for some few 4 and 5-out saves, tie games and garbage time when he “needs some work.” Nor should one expect any MLB manager to always go with the lowest projected FIP, tRA or ERA reliever in high leverage, non-9th inning situations. It very often doesn’t happen. And I’m not correcting you here. I know I’m not telling you anything you don’t know. I just wanted to make the point.
Leverage certainly counts. But my point above was that even taking leverage into account, if you look at a given PA, what is the likely WPA difference between using a good reliever and a poor reliever? I really doubt that the WPA difference between two possible relievers for one single PA (or even one inning) has more of an impact on wins than having two poor hitters at the top of a team’s batting order (and this is with the recognition that batting order has little impact on run scoring, even over an entire season).
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hillman arguably had no further managerial goofs
after the Farnsworth disaster? I’d say he did not. Although, I didn’t catch all the late inning subs he had today. Was everyone satisfied with what he did?
by FretFriendly on Apr 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
He handled pinch hitting for Bloomquist correctly, then moving Teahen to RF and keeping Callaspo in at 2B. But I would say that he erred in choosing the lineup. I understand sitting Jacobs against the lefty and moving Guillen to DH, but then I think it would have been better to start the game with Teahen in RF and Callaspo at 2B. Of course one could argue that Teahen needs the practice at 2B, so it makes sense to invest in these starts with him at 2B, rather than in the OF.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanted to say to any speeders
Slow The Fuck Down.
by ZachMartin2 on Apr 9, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
?
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
by kcscoliny on Apr 9, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adenhart, I imagine
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it is about Adenhart.....
then you shouldn’t worry about speeders, just idiots not paying attention to what the hell they’re doing…like plowing through a red light….
by bigmark14 on Apr 10, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and driving drunk
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by NYRoyal on Apr 10, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
assumed that one was a given
ranking with equal hatred are people holding their phones in the line of sight with the road while texting
by bigmark14 on Apr 10, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't realize it was a drunk driver
I just saw the headline on yahoo. Sad. Pay for a cab people.
by bigmark14 on Apr 10, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah cuz they were speedin
you prolly speed too, slow the fuck down or leave earlier,
by ZachMartin2 on Apr 10, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I speed - and I've never been in an accident
But I don’t drive drunk and I do pay attention to road unlike other idiots. Speeding didn’t cause this, alcohol and not paying attention did. Drvi
by bigmark14 on Apr 10, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leaving Farnsy in
to pitch against Thome was still really dumb, the kind of dumb you don’t forget easily.
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by Juancho on Apr 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WIN OF THE YEAR
Winning a beautiful thing
I know its just three games, but its better than 1-2 or 0-3! IF the White Sox are the team to beat, since they’re Division Champs and picked by many to win again, KC was just 1 good move away from sweeping the Sox; rebounding to win the next two and taking the series on the road (after the first horrible loss) tells me that this team can compete in this division. I’ll keep watching and rootin on “MY” Cubbies, RedSox & Royals.
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by CubFreak on Apr 9, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm amazed how slow Jermaine Dye has become
I will always cheer for that guy, but I can’t cheer for his team. Now he seems to be a real liability on defense and on the basepaths.
by BrRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His range in the OF is limited to about the size of a postage stamp
In order to provide even average overall production, he’s going to have to be a great hitter this year to make up for his horrendous defense. Anything hit to RF has a chance with Dye there.
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At moments
I thought maybe they had put quicksand out in right field.
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by RoyalsRetro on Apr 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd guess he's never been the same since the broken leg
and age doesn’t help, either
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to take this moment to remind everyone
that when everyone else was throwing a fit about how “we can’t lose Ram-Ram, he outpitched Soria!” and whatnot, that I alone was the voice of reason pointing out how good Crisp was.
I’ve always loved CoCo Crisp and never doubted the trade for a second.
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by devil_fingers on Apr 9, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I see RamRam pitched very well and very efficiently today for the Sawx
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on Apr 9, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haven't checked to see if this is sarcasm (but there is no secret font)
but I have RamRam on my fantasy team. Awesome news.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on Apr 9, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you're right, you're right
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since GMDM replaced Ramon
with Cruz, who is obviously a stud, it’s all good anyway.
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by jonfmorse on Apr 9, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(he’s also joking)
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by NYRoyal on Apr 10, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does Soria's stat line only show one save?
Did he not close the ninth in game 2?
by FretFriendly on Apr 9, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some kind of mistake
I saw that in the box score and in that line score at the top of RR. But this was his second save (in consecutive games).
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by NYRoyal on Apr 9, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
I checked another source… just a typo.
by FretFriendly on Apr 9, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selig's trying to make sure that Papeldumb is the "best" reliever in baseball.
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by kabrink on Apr 10, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Papelbon is not a bum
Selig on the other hand
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by CubFreak on Apr 10, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like Papelbon to me
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by kabrink on Apr 10, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missouri pitchers rockin it out
Awesome to see Davies flex for the people “wondering” if the end of last year was a fluke and great to see Carpenter healthy. Getting hurt and wondering if you’ll be what you once were sucks, and he was lights out today. I’m down for another I-70 series….
by bigmark14 on Apr 10, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Butler proves shitty
Then why not throw Callaspo in at DH and sit Butler?
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