King-Sized Letdown as Royals Blasted by A's in Long-Awaited Luke Hochevar Debut
I know you're angry! (Harvey Milk voice)
I'm angry!
But hey, Cleveland is 12-22!
(crowd cheers madly)
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So, it was another loss, only this one was a laugher, a game that was over by the third inning. Hochevar made all of our whining and pining look pretty silly, though he also looked like a guy who may not warrant arb-clock gaming anyway. So yea, it sucked. But it was only one game, only a handful of bad innings really, so we'll just have to see where this whole crazy season heads next.
One quibble: what the hell was Treyball trying to do tonight bullpen-wise? He pulled Ponson too early, then he did the same with Ho-Ram, then he brought in Mahay instead of putting Tejeda out there for two innings.
What's the point of having the long-man centric bullpen if, in a textbook longman situation, you don't have them, as they say, go long?
When you add it all up, there was no reason to have Mahay appear in this game, especially considering he's one of the three high-leverage relievers the team has.
Hillman Fail.
Chances are, it won't matter, as we have no idea how tomorrow's game will go. Oakland's offense is weak, but Banny is on the mound... Impotent force meets movable object tomorrow night!
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Can We Draft
Lincecum now?
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hey, could be worse
I was a big proponent of Lincecum purely on gut feeling, he has GIANT control problem at the time. But we could have had Brad Lincoln, who without checking is probably struggling in AA somewhere, if that.
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo
by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
ok, in AA
not struggling but not dominating either
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo
by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions
giant control problems?....didn't look that bad to me
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
4.5bb/9
being your best year in college, isn’t exactly good. Even in a pretty good conference
Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo
by playingwithfire on May 14, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It is all my fault
Being selfish, I posted “How about those 1st place Kansas City Royals” as my status on facebook last Thursday evening, since that date we are 0-4. I apologize to the entire Royals community.
So It's You!
Royals fans are never allowed toenjoy anything. Misery is our motto.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Mine was "Are you trying to say Jesus can't hit a curveball? No, but I he can't hit Zack Greinke"
My sacrilege was slower working, as we still won the next three games.
"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."
by Joseph Landis on May 13, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Royals faced off the A's in the MLB and Single A divisions
Final Score
Oakland 25
KC
4
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
Barfield
3/4 3HR
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by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Hoagy And Buck
(Travis) proved how little RF range matters.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Suddenly
the end of the season looks MUCH closer than it did a week ago.
First.
The General Theory of Royaltivity
misery by the numbers
record in may: 6-5
runs scored in last 4 games: 1, 0, 3, 3 = 7, 1.75 on average
runs allowed in last 4 games: 4, 1, 4, 12 = 21, 5.25 on average
bandwagon status: nonexistent
failboat status: ships a’hoy
realistically speaking
winning record!
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
but, it's still the same ole story
Wimpy offense with illusory bats and total streaky inconsistency in producing anything
First.
The General Theory of Royaltivity
Jacobs HR #6!
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
What a shitfest. Staying up for the postgame on the radio, but…ugh.Worst game of the year, past or future.
WTF, self?
Now that has made my Top 10 List of favorite new words.
Shitfest. I will now always give Minda props for that word, ferfucksake.
Yeah? From what I hear, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a f@#%ing boat.
redemption calls thyself BANNY!
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Hey Luke...
FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.. you really let me, the royals, the fans, and my fantasy team down… Go eat some FAIL with a side a FAIL with some FAIL to drink..
Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.
Well
I’m really dejected as well. However, I’m not going to throw Luke overboard yet. But, just think of the hollering that would have occured if Ponson had those first two innings. Banny will do no better tomorrow if there’s no offense behind him. Perhaps he can hold it to a less embarrassing result but still a likely loss.
First.
The General Theory of Royaltivity
im not throwing him overboard..
i still think he will do great this season.. im just talking about that start
Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.
Positive things from this game:
Coco Crisp
Some dude won over $3 grand in the Sonic Slam inning
….that’s all.
WTF, self?
Farnsworth another clean inning.. in another mop up sitch
Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.
The Starter Mattered
More.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He Did Burn
Some arms instead of letting someone mop up; they needed the work..
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
ponson is used to pitching 5 or 6 innings....he shouldve been out there until he was gassed....
no excuse for anything else
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by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
made zero sense...
i don’t question much on this sight but tonight’s bullpen use was ridiculous. at eight zip, for the love of god pitch ponson and horam longer than what they did tonight.
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
*site
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i will say in the end
it probably matters little
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The As don't have any guys who work pitchers hard, I'm not worried
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
banny's smart enough to know the drill
or so i hear.
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sandoval just hit a walkoff to beat the Nats. Hey we could be Nats fans
things aren’t so bad
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.
With Elijah Dukes in the role of Mike Sweeney!
wait…
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
that'd be zimmerman....
he just signed a soon to be team crippling extension
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
heh
gotta disagree on that one, though. That’s a decent deal for the Nats.
I admit to saying that without knowing about Zimmerman’s medical history.
I was just making a joke about character. I’m sure I’m just being a Puritan. The press has been really unfair to Dukes.
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He did just extend his hitting streak to 30 games I believe
Maybe he sucks for the rest of the year but that’s still pretty impressive
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sweeney's contract probably looked good at the time too....
zim’s alright…and the money isnt huge…it probably wont be a huge win or a huge loss for the nats.
as far as dukes goes, he’s seemingly been a saint since getting out of Tampa…so, maybe he really did juts need a change of scenery
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Little League pep talks don't pay like they used to
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
not threatening your ex and kids = sainthood
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
sweeney's cotract never should have vested...
the over .500 clause wasn’t built for a fluky 83 win team…
if the royals had been a true .500 team, there may have been more longterm revenue, etc
by Freneau on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was under the impression that those were player options....
even if they never got over 500…meaning, he wouldve taken that last $22 million regardless.
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
hmm... not totally sure
from Cots:
- 5 years/$55M (2003-07)
* signed extension with Kansas City 3/02
* 2003-07:$11M annually
* salaries increase to $12.5M/year with trade or contraction
* full no-trade clause 2002-03
* limited no-trade clause after 2003 – may veto a trade to all but 8 clubs: (LA Angels, LA Dodgers, SD, Oakland, SF, Seattle, Arizona & Chicago Cubs)
* $50,000 All Star award bonus
* final 3 years (05-07) vest only if KC finished .500 or better in ‘03 or ‘04 (vested 2003)
love the contraction clause
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Sweeney was a bit older when he signed his contract.
Zimmerman is still pretty young
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
When Zimmerman misses 400+ games like Sweeney did over 9 seasons
or cripple the Royals with his contract let me know. So far he has only missed 60 games in 4 years.
by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
what's funny,
is 30 game hitting streak and all, he still hasnt been even close to as good as longoria this year
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
and NL East pitching sucks ass
and it’s not just the Nationals, either
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
i cant wait til zack throws a no-no against an nl team
Fire Hillman
by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
who do we have?
NL hitters aren’t that bad. Some of the teams have really good offenses. But NL Easte pitching is awful out side of the Braves. Well, I guess the Phillies are Okay. But the Nats. Marlins, and Mets (outside of teh overrated Johan) all blow
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
All I can do is laugh
Not because I am any better than any of my fellow RR contributors but because that is how I feel about my prediction. Not that I shared it with anyone here, but I had this really eary feeling that with all the talk about Luke starting in the minors and Ponson getting the early starts that when Hoch got called up for the start I said this isn’t going to turn out well.
Now don’t get me wrong, he could and I hope he does turn it around and prove the majority of RR were correct in their analysis of this situation. But I just laughed for the first 2 innings as Hoch was getting shelled. I did feel bad about it though!
Welcome to the losing streak, brought to you by…..the winning streak!
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did we defeat oakland in the game thread count?
thats all that matters
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We Are Masochists
They don’t stand a chance.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
what a waste of a night
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
No Night Is
Wasted on RR.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Not On Me
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the problem
is that the Royals can only get their hatred up for one west coast rival
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San Diego Gulls?
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I Once Wore
The Kelly Green and Gold. We were 2-19, and I started the All Star game pitching that year. I only got one of the wins. Worst team I’ve ever been on.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Shapiro apparenlty gave Wedge the vote of confidence
I assume this means we should be picking dates and wagering?
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and mocking my typing skillz?
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets Go Tribe is becoming a weird weird environment...
a dude today posted a fairly sensible fanpost questioning shapiro etc. and the comments act like he was a ukranian spammer
i didnt know ukranian spammers had such a reputation
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
they've been good to me
in a couple interactions, but I can see what you mean
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Shapiro...
and I’d want them to win the division if it couldn’t be the royals…
but dude is not unimpeachable
and I'm not sure how much credit you can get
for robbing the Minaya Expos… basically a completely anomalous and horrible situation in which Minaya was acting with no consequences
how is that different than Minaya's environment now?
har har
The Peralta, Sizemore,and V-Mart extensions are all good
don’t forget that he traded a platoon 1/DH combo for two guys who are starting: Cabrera and Choo
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I wanted to email you privately about a related matter
they were cool with my (very mild) criticism of the Hafner deal, but I don’t quite understand the “well, Carlos Lee got 5/100” defense.
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
got it... gotta sleep soon
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he gets two more cliff lee starts
realistically speaking
I think we should wager on the length of the Royals losing streak.
Any takers?
I say it lasts through tomorrow night and Gil gets the W on Thursday.
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the fan in me says banny ends this nonsense tomorrow
realist says this could hit dobule digits, easy
realistically speaking
I always go the other way on Banny
when he’s goig good, I wait for the implosion, when no one expects anything, he’s golden
sounds like luke tonight
everyone thought AAA results meant something and he was riding to our rescue
First.
The General Theory of Royaltivity
not sure anybody expected rescue
but let’s be honest, we managed to score 3 runs off a mediocre pitcher and the garbage time side of the A’s bullpen. we weren’t going to win tonight unless he absolutely threw a gem. this game goes on the offense too
realistically speaking
I think the offense is clearly to blame for all the other losses
Tonight is harder to say. Yeah, 5 stranded in first two innings? But, still, Hochevar did nothing.
I think there’s been a ton of wailing about sending Hochevar down. Yes, I was one of the surprised when he did get sent down since he did well in ST. I’ve tried not to wail but did think we had a chance to improve when he came up. I still do. But, tonight is not a good sign. I’m sure he came up with a lot of confidence given his performance in AAA. But, now? I hope he’s resilient about this but he obviously fooled none of these hitters.
First.
The General Theory of Royaltivity
i think the only decent thing hochevar cna take away from this start
was that for the most part, he was getting beat early in counts. that is, they were crushing his get ahead pitches, it’s not like he was 3-2 on every batter and couldn’t put them away.
realistically speaking
That 2nd inning could have ended alot earlier
Butler was holding the runner on the bag and couldn’t make a play on that liner and then Teahen dove to the right and the replay showed the ball barely brushing his glove.
If either of those plays are made Luke only gives up a couple of runs in the 2nd
by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
your year and counting reverse jinx attempts notwithstanding
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
ends tomorrow...
and wont get to greinke if we lose… the turnaround starts SOON-ISH!
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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
what's the over/under
on number of days until the national press begins to say “I told you they weren’t for real?”
Or were did they all jump onto the “this year’s Ray’s” bandwagon too soon and are now stuck on it?
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The General Theory of Royaltivity
too busy writing a million columns about Carl Crawford+ more steals+ return of REAL baseball
thanks to no steroids
despite the fact that HRs are up this year
Pitchers Roided Too
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
and despite Crawford himself saying he's going to take it easy with the steals
so he doesn’t get hurt
Crawford = smarter than writers
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Royals were 21-22 on May 18, 2008
The season came to an effective close the next day after the no-hitter and the hideous losing streak, but the point is, we were right at .500 at this point last year.
I still honestly believe this team is genetically flawed. We are very very fortunate the AL Central looks putrid this year and nobody is running away with it like the Angels did with the AL West last year.
But we have some big, big problems. Thing is, I think these problems might be fixable for Dayton. And we still have the best pitcher in baseball, so there is that.
- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes
The League Adjusted
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
fixable = cloning Zack?
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I will donate to the cause
How much would it cost?
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$38,000,000.00
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Being Done Now
In Uraguay.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
No one in the AL Central seems to want to take charge.
As long as the Tigers continue to match losses with KC, the Royals have a chance.
Cleveland will revert to their true talent soon enough
like I said, I’m not sure it’s enough to put them in the playoffs, but it might be enough to screw up anyone else’s lead.
I thought before the season they had the most talent, and I still think they do. They hole they’ve dug is almost impossibly deep, though
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
only team that could possibly run away with it is detroit imo
cleveland is too deep in shit to build a big lead, twins don’t have enough pitching to go on a long tear right now…. if the tigers get bonderman back, verlander stays hot, and they can get the offense going they could definitely put together a really really good month….
realistically speaking
yea...
there are bad starts where you look awful but are just a few games under .500 (yankees) and there are dives that kill your season
If Gallaraga and Edwin Jackson continue to pitch like that
and Verlander pitches like three years ago they are the only threat the Royals have
by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Just got back from the game
and it was just as ugly as it sounded. The left field bleacher creatures were relentless with DeJesus and Crisp, especially after his dropped ball in center.
It's What They
Do.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Bret Tomko
is a Yankee…
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
The Strippers Finally
Released him.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And every Royal retread
is a White Sock at the moment.
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
So
Life as a Royal fan isn’t all that bad.
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
It's An Acquired
Taste for most. I was born to it.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
I was 3 when they finally beat the Yankees and then lost to Philly. I remember distinctly my father’s frustration. 8 in ’85 and remember my mother not even wanting to be in the same room as my father and me because we were yelling and cursing at the TV. I went to Cooperstown in 99 to see Brett, Nolan Ryan, Robin Yount, and Orlando Cepeda get inducted. Good times I tell you. Where are they now?
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
Think Greinke, Gordon,
Butler, Moustakas, Hosmer, et al.
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by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
don't forget horam
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by Matt Klaassen on May 13, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Bochachica?
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
I heard Gordon
got a bionic hip. That should help.
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
NOTE TO THE AMERICAN LEAGUE
Is your offense struggling? Need a boost? We’ve got the cure all for your woes.
How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.
by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And cause it made me think about an energy drink commercial!
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Didn't Hochavar
make his debut in Oakland last year? Didn’t he get shelled last year as well? Maybe its the park…
I've got crazy flipper fingers!
i pick this game first overall
for worst of the year.
I wonder if DM will want to steer clear of Boras clients this year because the dealings with Gutierrez.
i wasn't able to watch, but i have a question
was infield defense an issue? or did Hoch give up too many doubles that the infield D was irrelevant?
i just ask because in one of the highlights i saw, it looked like a very field-able ball went through the left side of the infield in the 2nd and let in a couple runs.
Not from what I saw
Hoch was giving up cannon shots every which way. I found nothing wrong with the infield defense; it would have been sheer luck if those liners had been hit into their gloves, because there was no time to react much more than that. Guillen was slow coming in on a ball that many RFs might have caught, but Hoch isn’t right if he’s relying on OF defense.
Personally, I thought Hoch should have put one in somebody’s ear at some point. They were all over the plate and the outside corner. That’s something Zack has learned (commanding the inside corner) that Luke could really use.
Mostly, Luke was up in the zone and didn’t change speeds much. He had a couple good curve balls, but the sinker was way out of the strike zone and the fastball was straight as an arrow.
and mostly he got pounded on his pitches that were UP
Yeah? From what I hear, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a f@#%ing boat.
All is not lost...........................................yet
This was the first game of the season that the SP left a big hole to climb out of, which finally exposed the offensive woes of late. And it was offensive.
This losing streak will end very soon (I hope to night) because this is the first time all year that the Royals are finding different ways to lose, than different ways to win. The latter had been the going trend up until this first loosing streak.
Though Hochs’ first start is something to forget, I thought he put himself in most of those positions, not going for strikes early. Then, when tossing his close out stuff too early, and leaving them up, the A’s hit ‘em like BP. For his sake I would like Hoch to stay up a bit, perhaps switch with Thindy (or Cindy) in the rotation and give him a couple innings here and there to get him up to full speed. Obviously what the scouts saw in AAA was that even though Banny had a higher ERA and not as many wins, he had stuff that the Majors’ hitters wouldn’t do well with, while Hoch (god bless him) was not quite as edgy.
Here’s to the hope that the loosing streak ends tonight!!!
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on May 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
Arbitration clock this, arbitration clock that
sometimes players just aren’t quite ready, and once again, the organization proves that they know more than us.
by I need more Esteban on May 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
Uh...
wasn’t Hoch up all of last season? If it’s just a matter of not being “ready”, he wasn’t ready last year either when they brought him up. I get that they know more than us, but they certainly haven’t been right enough times to warrant blind faith either.
by Big Guy on May 13, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just one game
It’s not really a big deal. Every team* will have games where they give up 10+ runs. This, as everyone probably knows, was our 1st of the year.
*OK – so here is the bad news. There’s only one MLB team that hasn’t given up 10+ runs in a game yet this year – our current opponent, the Oakland A’s. They’ve only given up 9 runs once (and that was a 14 inning game). So while we are lamenting our lack of offense, we should be giving a little bit of credit to the A’s pitching.
On the other hand, last night was the first time the A’s have scored 10+ runs in a game this year. Perhaps they were just due – every team* will have a breakout game where they score 10+ runs.
*Uhhh – except the Padres! Too bad we don’t play them this year.
So, yeah, this wasn’t what we were hoping for Hochevar. However, even good/experienced pitchers can have games like this. Beckett started a game this year that the Sox lost 13-0. The only 2 games that the Giants have given up 10+ runs were both started by Randy Johnson. While Hoch obviously doesn’t have the track record or experience of these guys, I’m not willing to call for him to get sent back down yet. Let’s see how he handles the adversity.
Meanwhile, after a 4 game losing streak, we’re still tied for 1st. We’ve all experienced much worse than this as Royals fans!
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel! - Homer Simpson
by aHorseWithNoName on May 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
Bandwagon (likely) gone just like that...
Unless we get back on track VERY soon the only intact Royals fan grabber will be Greinke. I’m a fair weather fan and will stick around even if this turns into a skid that sets the real tone for the rest of the season. I’ve missed the last few game threads to get some much needed sleep but I’ll be back soon. Until then I also will show the huge sorrow of Luke blowing it.

What's this day of rest sh@t? What's this bullsh!t? I don't f#ckin' care! It don't matter to Jesus. But you're not foolin' me, man. You might fool the f*cks in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha! I would have f&cked you in the @ss Saturday. I f#ck you in the @ss next Wednesday instead. Wooo! You got a date Wednesday, baby! - Jesus Quintana
by ratherfantastic on May 13, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
Hahaha me fail
I’m not a fairweather fan and my huge fatigue is now showing. I’ll stick around here even if it’s another losing season. I’m a loyal fan.
What's this day of rest sh@t? What's this bullsh!t? I don't f#ckin' care! It don't matter to Jesus. But you're not foolin' me, man. You might fool the f*cks in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha! I would have f&cked you in the @ss Saturday. I f#ck you in the @ss next Wednesday instead. Wooo! You got a date Wednesday, baby! - Jesus Quintana
by ratherfantastic on May 13, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions




















