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King-Sized Letdown as Royals Blasted by A's in Long-Awaited Luke Hochevar Debut

Kansas City Royals' Luke Hochevar works against the Oakland Athletics in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, May 12, 2009, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

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6 months ago: Kansas City Royals' Luke Hochevar works against the Oakland Athletics in the first inning of a baseball game Tuesday, May 12, 2009, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Ben Margot)

I know you're angry! (Harvey Milk voice)

I'm angry!

But hey, Cleveland is 12-22!

(crowd cheers madly)

##

So, it was another loss, only this one was a laugher, a game that was over by the third inning. Hochevar made all of our whining and pining look pretty silly, though he also looked like a guy who may not warrant arb-clock gaming anyway. So yea, it sucked. But it was only one game, only a handful of bad innings really, so we'll just have to see where this whole crazy season heads next.

One quibble: what the hell was Treyball trying to do tonight bullpen-wise? He pulled Ponson too early, then he did the same with Ho-Ram, then he brought in Mahay instead of putting Tejeda out there for two innings.

What's the point of having the long-man centric bullpen if, in a textbook longman situation, you don't have them, as they say, go long?

When you add it all up, there was no reason to have Mahay appear in this game, especially considering he's one of the three high-leverage relievers the team has.

Hillman Fail.

Chances are, it won't matter, as we have no idea how tomorrow's game will go. Oakland's offense is weak, but Banny is on the mound... Impotent force meets movable object tomorrow night!

 

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Can We Draft

Lincecum now?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

hey, could be worse

I was a big proponent of Lincecum purely on gut feeling, he has GIANT control problem at the time. But we could have had Brad Lincoln, who without checking is probably struggling in AA somewhere, if that.

Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo

by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, in AA

not struggling but not dominating either

Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo

by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4.5bb/9

being your best year in college, isn’t exactly good. Even in a pretty good conference

Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo

by playingwithfire on May 14, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is all my fault

Being selfish, I posted “How about those 1st place Kansas City Royals” as my status on facebook last Thursday evening, since that date we are 0-4. I apologize to the entire Royals community.

by kcfan4ever on May 13, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So It's You!

Royals fans are never allowed toenjoy anything. Misery is our motto.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine was "Are you trying to say Jesus can't hit a curveball? No, but I he can't hit Zack Greinke"

My sacrilege was slower working, as we still won the next three games.

"It’s not about the guacamole itself," Greinke said. "I just don’t want to let them win."

by lobes on May 13, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals faced off the A's in the MLB and Single A divisions

Final Score
Oakland 25
KC
4

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 13, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Barfield

3/4 3HR

Mourning Guy Carbonneau...
Royals obscure player to watch in ST: Lenny DiNardo

by playingwithfire on May 13, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoagy And Buck

(Travis) proved how little RF range matters.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Suddenly

the end of the season looks MUCH closer than it did a week ago.

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

misery by the numbers

record in may: 6-5
runs scored in last 4 games: 1, 0, 3, 3 = 7, 1.75 on average
runs allowed in last 4 games: 4, 1, 4, 12 = 21, 5.25 on average
bandwagon status: nonexistent
failboat status: ships a’hoy

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

winning record!

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but, it's still the same ole story

Wimpy offense with illusory bats and total streaky inconsistency in producing anything

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jacobs HR #6!

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 AB's too late

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 13, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

What a shitfest. Staying up for the postgame on the radio, but…ugh.Worst game of the year, past or future.

WTF, self?

by minda33 on May 13, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Now that has made my Top 10 List of favorite new words.

Shitfest. I will now always give Minda props for that word, ferfucksake.

Yeah? From what I hear, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a f@#%ing boat.

by BillyMojo on May 13, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

redemption calls thyself BANNY!

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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Luke...

FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.. you really let me, the royals, the fans, and my fantasy team down… Go eat some FAIL with a side a FAIL with some FAIL to drink..

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 13, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

I’m really dejected as well. However, I’m not going to throw Luke overboard yet. But, just think of the hollering that would have occured if Ponson had those first two innings. Banny will do no better tomorrow if there’s no offense behind him. Perhaps he can hold it to a less embarrassing result but still a likely loss.

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im not throwing him overboard..

i still think he will do great this season.. im just talking about that start

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 13, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Positive things from this game:

Coco Crisp

Some dude won over $3 grand in the Sonic Slam inning

….that’s all.

WTF, self?

by minda33 on May 13, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Farnsworth another clean inning.. in another mop up sitch

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 13, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

zero

sense
at
all

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Starter Mattered

More.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure...

for this game

but you’ve got to think ahead a little

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He Did Burn

Some arms instead of letting someone mop up; they needed the work..

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

made zero sense...

i don’t question much on this sight but tonight’s bullpen use was ridiculous. at eight zip, for the love of god pitch ponson and horam longer than what they did tonight.

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*site

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will say in the end

it probably matters little

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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandoval just hit a walkoff to beat the Nats. Hey we could be Nats fans

things aren’t so bad

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 13, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are the 2000 Royals all over again

good offense, completely terrible pitching

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Elijah Dukes in the role of Mike Sweeney!

wait…

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that'd be zimmerman....

he just signed a soon to be team crippling extension

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

gotta disagree on that one, though. That’s a decent deal for the Nats.

I admit to saying that without knowing about Zimmerman’s medical history.

I was just making a joke about character. I’m sure I’m just being a Puritan. The press has been really unfair to Dukes.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did just extend his hitting streak to 30 games I believe

Maybe he sucks for the rest of the year but that’s still pretty impressive

FKA "MileHighKCfan"

by JSouth on May 13, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweeney's contract probably looked good at the time too....

zim’s alright…and the money isnt huge…it probably wont be a huge win or a huge loss for the nats.

as far as dukes goes, he’s seemingly been a saint since getting out of Tampa…so, maybe he really did juts need a change of scenery

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweeney's cotract never should have vested...

the over .500 clause wasn’t built for a fluky 83 win team…

if the royals had been a true .500 team, there may have been more longterm revenue, etc

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i was under the impression that those were player options....

even if they never got over 500…meaning, he wouldve taken that last $22 million regardless.

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm... not totally sure

from Cots:

  1. 5 years/$55M (2003-07)

    * signed extension with Kansas City 3/02

    * 2003-07:$11M annually

    * salaries increase to $12.5M/year with trade or contraction

    * full no-trade clause 2002-03

    * limited no-trade clause after 2003 – may veto a trade to all but 8 clubs: (LA Angels, LA Dodgers, SD, Oakland, SF, Seattle, Arizona & Chicago Cubs)

    * $50,000 All Star award bonus

    * final 3 years (05-07) vest only if KC finished .500 or better in ‘03 or ‘04 (vested 2003)

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love the contraction clause

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Zimmerman misses 400+ games like Sweeney did over 9 seasons

or cripple the Royals with his contract let me know. So far he has only missed 60 games in 4 years.

by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's funny,

is 30 game hitting streak and all, he still hasnt been even close to as good as longoria this year

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and NL East pitching sucks ass

and it’s not just the Nationals, either

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who do we have?

NL hitters aren’t that bad. Some of the teams have really good offenses. But NL Easte pitching is awful out side of the Braves. Well, I guess the Phillies are Okay. But the Nats. Marlins, and Mets (outside of teh overrated Johan) all blow

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I can do is laugh

Not because I am any better than any of my fellow RR contributors but because that is how I feel about my prediction. Not that I shared it with anyone here, but I had this really eary feeling that with all the talk about Luke starting in the minors and Ponson getting the early starts that when Hoch got called up for the start I said this isn’t going to turn out well.

Now don’t get me wrong, he could and I hope he does turn it around and prove the majority of RR were correct in their analysis of this situation. But I just laughed for the first 2 innings as Hoch was getting shelled. I did feel bad about it though!

Welcome to the losing streak, brought to you by…..the winning streak!

FKA "MileHighKCfan"

by JSouth on May 13, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did we defeat oakland in the game thread count?

thats all that matters

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We Are Masochists

They don’t stand a chance.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a waste of a night

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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Night Is

Wasted on RR.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the problem

is that the Royals can only get their hatred up for one west coast rival

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

San Diego Gulls?

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Once Wore

The Kelly Green and Gold. We were 2-19, and I started the All Star game pitching that year. I only got one of the wins. Worst team I’ve ever been on.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shapiro apparenlty gave Wedge the vote of confidence

I assume this means we should be picking dates and wagering?

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and mocking my typing skillz?

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lets Go Tribe is becoming a weird weird environment...

a dude today posted a fairly sensible fanpost questioning shapiro etc. and the comments act like he was a ukranian spammer

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didnt know ukranian spammers had such a reputation

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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they've been good to me

in a couple interactions, but I can see what you mean

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Shapiro...

and I’d want them to win the division if it couldn’t be the royals…

but dude is not unimpeachable

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and I'm not sure how much credit you can get

for robbing the Minaya Expos… basically a completely anomalous and horrible situation in which Minaya was acting with no consequences

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is that different than Minaya's environment now?

har har

The Peralta, Sizemore,and V-Mart extensions are all good

don’t forget that he traded a platoon 1/DH combo for two guys who are starting: Cabrera and Choo

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I wanted to email you privately about a related matter

they were cool with my (very mild) criticism of the Hafner deal, but I don’t quite understand the “well, Carlos Lee got 5/100” defense.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we should wager on the length of the Royals losing streak.

Any takers?

I say it lasts through tomorrow night and Gil gets the W on Thursday.

FKA "MileHighKCfan"

by JSouth on May 13, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fan in me says banny ends this nonsense tomorrow

realist says this could hit dobule digits, easy

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always go the other way on Banny

when he’s goig good, I wait for the implosion, when no one expects anything, he’s golden

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like luke tonight

everyone thought AAA results meant something and he was riding to our rescue

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure anybody expected rescue

but let’s be honest, we managed to score 3 runs off a mediocre pitcher and the garbage time side of the A’s bullpen. we weren’t going to win tonight unless he absolutely threw a gem. this game goes on the offense too

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the offense is clearly to blame for all the other losses

Tonight is harder to say. Yeah, 5 stranded in first two innings? But, still, Hochevar did nothing.

I think there’s been a ton of wailing about sending Hochevar down. Yes, I was one of the surprised when he did get sent down since he did well in ST. I’ve tried not to wail but did think we had a chance to improve when he came up. I still do. But, tonight is not a good sign. I’m sure he came up with a lot of confidence given his performance in AAA. But, now? I hope he’s resilient about this but he obviously fooled none of these hitters.

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the only decent thing hochevar cna take away from this start

was that for the most part, he was getting beat early in counts. that is, they were crushing his get ahead pitches, it’s not like he was 3-2 on every batter and couldn’t put them away.

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That 2nd inning could have ended alot earlier

Butler was holding the runner on the bag and couldn’t make a play on that liner and then Teahen dove to the right and the replay showed the ball barely brushing his glove.

If either of those plays are made Luke only gives up a couple of runs in the 2nd

by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ends tomorrow...

and wont get to greinke if we lose… the turnaround starts SOON-ISH!

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by blue bandwagon on May 13, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's the over/under

on number of days until the national press begins to say “I told you they weren’t for real?”

Or were did they all jump onto the “this year’s Ray’s” bandwagon too soon and are now stuck on it?

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitchers Roided Too

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and despite Crawford himself saying he's going to take it easy with the steals

so he doesn’t get hurt

Crawford = smarter than writers

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Royals were 21-22 on May 18, 2008

The season came to an effective close the next day after the no-hitter and the hideous losing streak, but the point is, we were right at .500 at this point last year.

I still honestly believe this team is genetically flawed. We are very very fortunate the AL Central looks putrid this year and nobody is running away with it like the Angels did with the AL West last year.

But we have some big, big problems. Thing is, I think these problems might be fixable for Dayton. And we still have the best pitcher in baseball, so there is that.

- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes

by JobDDT on May 13, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the offense got extremely hot...

then just like that… the tap has gone dry

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The League Adjusted

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fixable = cloning Zack?

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will donate to the cause

How much would it cost?

FKA "MileHighKCfan"

by JSouth on May 13, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$38,000,000.00

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's it?

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being Done Now

In Uraguay.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

using lithium

foisted out of Bolivia

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one in the AL Central seems to want to take charge.

As long as the Tigers continue to match losses with KC, the Royals have a chance.

by CaseyRoyal on May 13, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleveland will revert to their true talent soon enough

like I said, I’m not sure it’s enough to put them in the playoffs, but it might be enough to screw up anyone else’s lead.

I thought before the season they had the most talent, and I still think they do. They hole they’ve dug is almost impossibly deep, though

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only team that could possibly run away with it is detroit imo

cleveland is too deep in shit to build a big lead, twins don’t have enough pitching to go on a long tear right now…. if the tigers get bonderman back, verlander stays hot, and they can get the offense going they could definitely put together a really really good month….

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 13, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

there are bad starts where you look awful but are just a few games under .500 (yankees) and there are dives that kill your season

by royalsreview on May 13, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Gallaraga and Edwin Jackson continue to pitch like that

and Verlander pitches like three years ago they are the only threat the Royals have

by GobbleforCyoung on May 14, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just got back from the game

and it was just as ugly as it sounded. The left field bleacher creatures were relentless with DeJesus and Crisp, especially after his dropped ball in center.

by CaseyRoyal on May 13, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's What They

Do.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bret Tomko

is a Yankee…

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Strippers Finally

Released him.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And every Royal retread

is a White Sock at the moment.

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So

Life as a Royal fan isn’t all that bad.

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's An Acquired

Taste for most. I was born to it.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

I was 3 when they finally beat the Yankees and then lost to Philly. I remember distinctly my father’s frustration. 8 in ’85 and remember my mother not even wanting to be in the same room as my father and me because we were yelling and cursing at the TV. I went to Cooperstown in 99 to see Brett, Nolan Ryan, Robin Yount, and Orlando Cepeda get inducted. Good times I tell you. Where are they now?

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think Greinke, Gordon,

Butler, Moustakas, Hosmer, et al.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 13, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget horam

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 13, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bochachica?

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard Gordon

got a bionic hip. That should help.

How come it's a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your two cents in? Someone is making a penny.

by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOTE TO THE AMERICAN LEAGUE

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by Grantastica on May 13, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

cause it made me chuckle

FKA "MileHighKCfan"

by JSouth on May 13, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Hochavar

make his debut in Oakland last year? Didn’t he get shelled last year as well? Maybe its the park…

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 13, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i pick this game first overall

for worst of the year.

I wonder if DM will want to steer clear of Boras clients this year because the dealings with Gutierrez.

by 9il on May 13, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't able to watch, but i have a question

was infield defense an issue? or did Hoch give up too many doubles that the infield D was irrelevant?

i just ask because in one of the highlights i saw, it looked like a very field-able ball went through the left side of the infield in the 2nd and let in a couple runs.

by benfunke on May 13, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not from what I saw

Hoch was giving up cannon shots every which way. I found nothing wrong with the infield defense; it would have been sheer luck if those liners had been hit into their gloves, because there was no time to react much more than that. Guillen was slow coming in on a ball that many RFs might have caught, but Hoch isn’t right if he’s relying on OF defense.

Personally, I thought Hoch should have put one in somebody’s ear at some point. They were all over the plate and the outside corner. That’s something Zack has learned (commanding the inside corner) that Luke could really use.

Mostly, Luke was up in the zone and didn’t change speeds much. He had a couple good curve balls, but the sinker was way out of the strike zone and the fastball was straight as an arrow.

by Big Guy on May 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully he can settle in during his next start

by benfunke on May 13, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and mostly he got pounded on his pitches that were UP

Yeah? From what I hear, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a f@#%ing boat.

by BillyMojo on May 13, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All is not lost...........................................yet

This was the first game of the season that the SP left a big hole to climb out of, which finally exposed the offensive woes of late. And it was offensive.

This losing streak will end very soon (I hope to night) because this is the first time all year that the Royals are finding different ways to lose, than different ways to win. The latter had been the going trend up until this first loosing streak.

Though Hochs’ first start is something to forget, I thought he put himself in most of those positions, not going for strikes early. Then, when tossing his close out stuff too early, and leaving them up, the A’s hit ‘em like BP. For his sake I would like Hoch to stay up a bit, perhaps switch with Thindy (or Cindy) in the rotation and give him a couple innings here and there to get him up to full speed. Obviously what the scouts saw in AAA was that even though Banny had a higher ERA and not as many wins, he had stuff that the Majors’ hitters wouldn’t do well with, while Hoch (god bless him) was not quite as edgy.

Here’s to the hope that the loosing streak ends tonight!!!

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on May 13, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arbitration clock this, arbitration clock that

sometimes players just aren’t quite ready, and once again, the organization proves that they know more than us.

by I need more Esteban on May 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Yeah? From what I hear, you couldn't hit water if you fell out of a f@#%ing boat.

by BillyMojo on May 13, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just one game

It’s not really a big deal. Every team* will have games where they give up 10+ runs. This, as everyone probably knows, was our 1st of the year.

*OK – so here is the bad news. There’s only one MLB team that hasn’t given up 10+ runs in a game yet this year – our current opponent, the Oakland A’s. They’ve only given up 9 runs once (and that was a 14 inning game). So while we are lamenting our lack of offense, we should be giving a little bit of credit to the A’s pitching.

On the other hand, last night was the first time the A’s have scored 10+ runs in a game this year. Perhaps they were just due – every team* will have a breakout game where they score 10+ runs.

*Uhhh – except the Padres! Too bad we don’t play them this year.

So, yeah, this wasn’t what we were hoping for Hochevar. However, even good/experienced pitchers can have games like this. Beckett started a game this year that the Sox lost 13-0. The only 2 games that the Giants have given up 10+ runs were both started by Randy Johnson. While Hoch obviously doesn’t have the track record or experience of these guys, I’m not willing to call for him to get sent back down yet. Let’s see how he handles the adversity.

Meanwhile, after a 4 game losing streak, we’re still tied for 1st. We’ve all experienced much worse than this as Royals fans!

Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel! - Homer Simpson

by aHorseWithNoName on May 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bandwagon (likely) gone just like that...

Unless we get back on track VERY soon the only intact Royals fan grabber will be Greinke. I’m a fair weather fan and will stick around even if this turns into a skid that sets the real tone for the rest of the season. I’ve missed the last few game threads to get some much needed sleep but I’ll be back soon. Until then I also will show the huge sorrow of Luke blowing it.

What's this day of rest sh@t? What's this bullsh!t? I don't f#ckin' care! It don't matter to Jesus. But you're not foolin' me, man. You might fool the f*cks in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha! I would have f&cked you in the @ss Saturday. I f#ck you in the @ss next Wednesday instead. Wooo! You got a date Wednesday, baby! - Jesus Quintana

by ratherfantastic on May 13, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha me fail

I’m not a fairweather fan and my huge fatigue is now showing. I’ll stick around here even if it’s another losing season. I’m a loyal fan.

What's this day of rest sh@t? What's this bullsh!t? I don't f#ckin' care! It don't matter to Jesus. But you're not foolin' me, man. You might fool the f*cks in the league office, but you don't fool Jesus. This bush league psyche-out stuff. Laughable, man - ha ha! I would have f&cked you in the @ss Saturday. I f#ck you in the @ss next Wednesday instead. Wooo! You got a date Wednesday, baby! - Jesus Quintana

by ratherfantastic on May 13, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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