Looking outside the organization for SS help?
There was a FanPost published earlier tonight regarding KC looking into acquiring a SS via trade, but it's been deleted/disappeared. However, now that the Royals are using their #3,#4, and #5 options at short with both Aviles and TPJ on the DL, this may be a topic worth discussing.
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While it's safe to assume that most people expected Mike Aviles' offensive numbers to regress from last year's breakout, I'm guessing not too many people pegged him for an OPS+ of 21 and a .183/.208/.250 line as we prepare to enter June. Now, if this is entirely related to his injured wrist and he can go down to Arizona, get away from everything and fix himself in a few weeks, then the notion of looking to trade for a SS may be meaningless. However, what if the wrist problem lingers? What if the wrist heals but the horrific plate mechanics keep resulting in horrific results? Last year, the Royals were out of the race early. It appears that they may be able to stay in the thick of the AL Central this year. Can we afford to run TPJ/Hernandez/Bloomy/Hulett/crappy version of Aviles out there at SS for a team that will be prone to offensive struggles all year long? Or should we look at other options? I think we all know what we'll get with TPJ/Hernandez--average to above-average fielding but little to no offense. Hulett has put up solid AAA numbers, but then again, so has Shane Costa. Hulett has also primarily been a 2B, so it's unknown if he can handle (or will be asked to play) SS. Bloomquist has been a pleasant surprise through the first 40+ games of the season, but can we reasonably expect his production to continue? Can he be a legitimate SS if he has to play there for an extended period of time?
Here are a few names that have been thrown around as players who may be shopped by their respective clubs. By no means is this an all-inclusive list--it's just a few names I've read about being available now that a few teams (KC, Boston, NY Mets are hurting at SS due to injuries). It's a mix of quick fixes, reclamation projects, buy-low candidates, etc. (Also known as former 1st rounders, All-Stars, Rookies of the Year, and Gold Glovers.)
Khalil Greene, Saint Louis Cardinals, 2009 Salary: $6.5M
The Boston Globe reported earlier this week that STL contacted Boston about Greene. Perhaps STL GM John Mozeliak threw out a flyer to the Royals' brass on Sunday when the Royals were in town upon learning of Aviles' DL trip. Greene is in the final year of his contract, and STL would most likely have to eat some money to move him as he has been a disappointment. It has also been reported that he is dealing with severe anxiety. STL hasn't started him since May 17 because of this, mainly using him as a pinch-hitter while he struggles to recover. I'd doubt that NY and Boston are two towns that would be beneficial for a person struggling with anxiety issues.
He's an interesting case, as he is a first round talent (13th pick) who has battled injuries for much of his career. He came up with a reputation of a defensive wizard, but some stats have shown his defense has declined the last few years. Playing in San Diego has also not done good things to his offensive numbers, which led to speculation that he would break out this year now that he's finally out of SD.
Possible advantages to acquiring Greene:
- Even in SD, he's put up an OPS+ of 95 or higher in four out of the last five years.
- Home vs. Away Splits--
Home: .226/.291/.365
Away: .266/.315/.478 - He gets better as the season progresses. His best months of the season are the season's final months. If KC is playing meaningful baseball as the season winds down, he could be a benefit.
- He's still just 29, and his stock can't get much lower. It seems to me that he's got a higher ceiling as a player than any of our current SS options. The prototypical "buy low" candidate.
- With the obvious parallel to Greinke's anxiety issues, perhaps our organization could help fix him mentally, leading to better physical results. Maybe that would engender feelings of signing here in the off-season (in a best-case scenario). Worst case scenario is that you took a flyer on him, it didn't work out, and he goes elsewhere after the season as a free agent.
As for his defense, here is an excerpt from a Fangraphs article about him from this offseason:
So what do we make of Greene’s defense?
Well, his +/- ratings from 2006 to 2008 go from +13 to +7 to -4. If each year was considered an isoloated result, we’d conclude that two years ago Greene was one of the game’s best defenders at the toughest position to field but had fallen off substantially since then, to the point of being below average now.
Was Greene a terrific fielder who has since deteriorated to the point of being a minor liability? Maybe, but because of the variance in single year metrics, we certainly can’t state that with any kind of confidence. However, if we view each year as a data point, we’d find that the mean of his defensive value over the last three years is between +0 and +5, depending on how much weight you give to the most recent data points. Because of the larger sample, we can state with significantly more confidence that Greene was something like a +0 to +5 defender over the past three years, which would allow us to make a pretty decent projection for what he’ll do going forward.
As with all projections, a multi-year weighted collection of data will be more accurate than if you simply use the past year’s results and take them as the gospel truth. Every projection system worth it’s salt incorporates regression over several years to determine future output, and with Greene, that’s exactly what we have to do with the defensive data. The -4 rating from 2008 is a data point, but whether it represented an actual decline in his ability or not, we just don’t know. There’s too much noise in the data to support that kind of claim.
So, Cardinals fans should expect Greene to be something like a league average defensive shortstop or maybe a tick above. Toss in enough gap power to overcome his low OBP, and St. Louis just picked up a +2 win player for 2009. Considering his salary only values him at just over 1.25 wins, the Cardinals are getting a bargain for their money. Unless the PTBNL in the day is a significant prospect, we’d have to call this a good move for St. Louis - even with Greene’s -4 +/- score from 2008.
Felipe Lopez, Arizona Diamondbacks, 2009 Salary: $3.5M
Lopez (another first round talent) has seemingly turned on the proverbial switch after being released by Washington and signed by the Cardinals in the middle of last season. Perhaps playing for the Nationals will do that to a person. Anyway, Lopez (a Boras client) is also 29 years old. He signed a 1 year, $3.5M deal going into this season with Arizona to compete for their 2B job with Augie Ojeda. It turns out he has been one of their most valuable positional players (along with Reynolds and Upton). He has quite a bit of major league experience at SS, but his defense has always been a liability no matter his position. He would not be a guy to acquire for his defensive prowess. Also, he's likely benefitting from playing home games in AZ (current .933 Home OPS), and his BABIP is even higher than 2008 Aviles territory at .370. He would likely demand a higher price tag than Greene.
Possible advantages to acquiring Lopez:
- He's currently sporting a WAR of 1.4, good for 7th among all MLB 2B (tied with Brian Roberts, Brandon Phillips, Robby Cano, Asdrubal Cabrera). He'd most likely be the best offensive option among the possible SS trade candidates.
- Another player with an expiring contract, so KC would not be tying up any future finances if they don't feel like he's a long-term option.
- A switch-hitter, which would allow for more lineup flexibility in the lower half of the lineup (he could also hit leadoff/2nd if needed).
- Also has better numbers in the 2nd half compared to the first:
First Half: .255/.324/.388
Second Half: .278/.344/.415 - Arizona is already 10.5 games back in the NL West, meaning they'll likely be looking to deal some of their more attractive commodities. Conversely, the entire American League is within 9 games of its respective division leaders.
Keith Law had this to say about his signing in the off-season:
You wouldn't know it from his stat lines, but Lopez has good raw tools. He can run, albeit not quite as well as he did before he started putting on weight; he has at least average raw power; he has good bat speed; and once upon a time he was a rangy shortstop with a good arm. He's lost much of this to indolence, seldom putting forth the effort required to convert his tools into performance outside of his one outstanding year in 2005. His midseason release in 2008 seemed to be a wake-up call, which, combined with some extraordinary luck, led to the best 169 plate appearances of his career. He's capable of sustaining some parts of that surge, and a .275/.350/.420 season with average defense at second base and value on the bases is within reach if he shows up in shape and sustains his effort level all season. That would make him an above-average second baseman at a below-average salary, and he could easily slug .450 or more given his raw power and the homer-friendly ballpark in Phoenix.
Bobby Crosby, Oakland Athletics, 2009 Salary: $5.25 M
Talk about buying low. Remember when Peter Gammons said he would be an MVP candidate in the AL after he was 2004 AL Rookie of the Year. Ugh. Anyway, he's another former first rounder who is in the final year of his contract. He's also 29, and has also battled injuries for the majority of his career. He requested a trade in the spring when he saw he wasn't going to get much playing time after Oakland signed Orlando Cabrera. He's played a little bit of everything so far this year (mainly 3B now that Chavez is hurt again--shocking, I know), and it's been predictably bad yet again from Crosby. His career line isn't too far off from the career of Khalil Greene, so maybe you'd think he would be suffering from playing in cavernous Oakland Alameda County Colleseum. However, that's not the case, as his splits show better home numbers vs. road numbers. He also has traditionally performed better in the first half of the season.
Career lines:
Greene: .246/.303/.423 OPS+ of 94
Crosby: .238/.307/.376 OPS+ of 82
Possible advantages of acquiring Crosby:
- Best defender (per UZR) of the options listed here
- Oakland would eat salary and not require much in return. Every MLB team passed on Crosby when he went through waivers with his current salary.
- ...ummm, I'm struggling for reasons here....probably the most 'gritty' of the bunch?
Orlando Cabrera, Oakland Athletics, 2009 Salary: $4M (4.25 if he gets traded)
Cabrera is the most experienced (34 years old) and probably the most well-recongnized name on the list of possible SS options. There were a lot of "please don't sign Cabrera" opinions floating around here this past off-season (of which I was one), but he may be put on the block if Beane feels that Oakland falls too far out of contention. His .241/.284/.300 line he's currently sporting is not going to up that price tag any, either. He's got a clause in his contract that his team will not offer arbitration to him after the season if he qualifies as a Type A free agent, meaning they wouldn't receive compensation if he signs elsewhere (I think). I don't know if this agreement is triggered if he qualifies as a Type B free agent, however.
Possible advantages:
- Would come cheap & an expiring contract
- His best OPS months are August and Sept/Oct
- Has been consistently in between 2.7-3.8 WAR the last four years
- Positive defender for his career.
- Could possibly receive compensation if he is a Type B FA.
Other SS named in trade rumors: Jack Wilson (PIT), Yuniesky Betancourt (SEA)
There were rumors these guys would be traded for each other. Betancourt is still under contract until 2011 (with a 2012 buyout). He is not an option. Wilson is in the final year of his deal, but at a hefty price ($6.2 M for the rest of this year plus next year's buyout). He is also unlikely as an option.
....so there you have it. I'm getting tired, so my profiles got less substantial as I went, but that's a quick rundown of a few guys who may be available via trade. I don't see the Royals jumping to make a deal for any of them immediately, but if they internally worry more about Aviles than they're letting on, it wouldn't completely shock me to see them reach out and acquire someone--especially if they hang around in the Central. Obviously Felipe Lopez is playing the best right now of these options, and would probably be #1 on my list....but what do you think? I'd love to see Mike Aviles come back in two weeks and fall back into 2008 form, but I just don't have a lot of confidence in that happening right now. What would you do as GM?
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None of the above
If they are gonna make a trade. Trade off someone talented other than Moose/Hos and try to get Zobrist or Brandon Wood(Angels). If not wait for Gordon to get back and see if you can turn DDJ or Teahen for a SS.
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by kcscoliny on May 25, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I was going to mention Zobrist,
but now that Iwamura went on the DL, they may be playing him every day at 2B. In all honesty, they should be playing him every day in the OF instead of Gabe Kapler……so I didn’t think he’d be available.
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by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 25, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice write up.
Guys in the last year of their contract are always intriguing, as we can hope for a “contract year” effort (especially if it is in a division race). However, if Aviles comes back and hits a little below his projection, he would be as productive as most of these guys. We just have to hope he can do that.
If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.
by Warden11 on May 25, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miguel Tejada
last year of his contract and unlike the rest of these guys, he can actually hit
by higs on May 25, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could give them back Buck
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on May 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all that much, though
And he’s on the downside of his career and makes a lot of money.
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by NHZ on May 26, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crosby
We already have guys making loads of outs. Let’s get someone who can own taht side of the field with Teahen/Gordon
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by RoyalsFanInMarinerTown on May 25, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
None of the above
The above list is crap. Aviles will likely perform as well or better than the above listed SS’s. And Aviles is cheap and doesn’t require giving anything up in trade. Stick with Aviles who has been really unlucky (BABIP) and let him develop. Don’t block him by trading for some SS who we know is below average.
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by NYRoyal on May 25, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think BABIP
is generally one of the more reliable of the newer generation of stats, but I don’t think Aviles bad start to the season can be characterized as simply ‘unlucky’. His K ratio has also increased at an alarming rate.
His biggest strongsuit as a hitter (IMO) last season was his willingness to go the other way. He seems completely unwilling to do that to this point in the season which is a large reason why his BABIP is so low. Instead of taking that pitch on the outer third of the plate to the right side & up the middle, where base-hits live, he has consistently rolled over it and hit a weak GB to SS.
Maybe, just maybe there is something to this ‘injury’ that 2 weeks of rest/treatment will cure. But I would think a weaker top hand would lead to more balls hit the other way, not the opposite…
BOOM! ROASTED!
by GoBabies!! on May 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't intend to convey that his bad start was all about bad luck
I was merely mentioning that bad luck is an element which has significantly contributed to his bad start.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has definitely been on the unlucky side of BABIP....
but part of that may be due to his mechanics being so messed up that he’s not a MLB-quality hitter right now. Anything on the outer half of the plate he will roll over, or completely miss. I cringe at what the scouting reports on him must say so far this year. His line is actually very TPJ-esque. Hopefully it’s more injury-related than “turning into a Berroa-like pumpkin” related.
2009 Aviles: 127 PA, .183/.208/.250 .223 babip
2008 TPJ: 235 PA, .169/.189/.209 .209 babip
…interestingly, there seemed to be a lot of players with similar babip’s this year to Aviles who have also been injured: Stephen Drew, Khalil Greene, Joe Crede, to name a few.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but part of that may be due to his mechanics being so messed up that he’s not a MLB-quality hitter right now.
I don’t think the data supports that contention. He’s hitting line drives at a slightly above average rate for an MLB hitter. That kind of solid contact means, in the very least, that he’s been a MLB-quality hitter.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's an accurate representation of his overall performance.
Sure, his LD% is slightly down from 20% to 18.9%……..but he’s making contact much less often this year.
Check out his K%—-13.8% to 21.7%…..that’s nearly doubled.
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he's hitting worse this year
I didn’t say he’s hitting well. I addressed your suggestion that perhaps he’s not a MLB-quality hitter right now (thus throwing the BABIP rules out the window). The data do not support that. He’s not hitting nearly as well as he was last year, and he’s been unlucky. His low BABIP isn’t because he’s not MLB-quality. He’s been hitting the ball hard and he’s had bad luck. He’s also striking out too much. The strikeouts aren’t about bad luck. His low BABIP is about bad luck.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
other LD% comparisons
By your logic, this means that Wainwright and Moyer are MLB-quality hitters? These are just the first two names that popped in my head.
2008 Aviles: 20.2%
2009 Aviles: 18.9%
2007 Adam Wainwright: 21.4%
2008 Adam Wainwright: 17.5%
2009 Adam Wainwright: 23.5%
2008 Jamie Moyer: 34.4%
2009 Jamie Moyer: 33.3%
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious with this?
Are you really arguing that Aviles isn’t a MLB-quality hitter? I don’t mean a great hitter. Just one whose hitting is roughly appropriate for the majors. I hope you aren’t just jumping to the conclusion that he’s not a MLB-quality hitter because he’s had a poor start. If so then David Ortiz isn’t a MLB-quality hitter either.
With regard to your Wainwright and Moyer argument, Aviles is making contact and hitting line drives at the level of MLB-quality hitter. He’s just not hitting well so far. I don’t think you should look at any and every player who isn’t hitting well and jump to the conclusion that he’s not a MLB-quality hitter and therefore BABIP is irrelevant.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you serious with this?
He’s hitting line drives at a slightly above average rate for an MLB hitter. That kind of solid contact means, in the very least, that he’s been a MLB-quality hitter.
That’s the statement that I don’t agree with.
I hope you weren’t saying that just because his LD% is close to the career LD% of an above-average hitting pitcher (Wainwright career LD% = 19%) , a below-average hitting pitcher (Jamie Moyer career LD% = 19%), and a very good hitter (Lance Berkman career LD% = 20%), that number can be used as the sole determinant of being MLB-quality offensively right now. Because that logic means that a player could get 100 PAs, strike out in 95 of them, hit one line drive, two pop-ups, and two grounders and be “MLB quality.” Obviously that’s taking it to the extreme, but you get my point.
I don’t know if you’ve had a chance to watch many of the games prior to Aviles’ DL assignment with your move and all, but his swing mechanics are seriously flawed. The FSN KC broadcast team has highlighted it, the FSN STL broadcast team picked up on it, etc. Now, obviously these aren’t the beacons of baseball mechanics we’re talking about here….but where there’s smoke…his feet are all over the place in the batter’s box (both of them), his hands are having to travel a severe distance to get into the hitting zone, he can’t do much of anything with a pitch on the outer half of the plate, etc, etc.
Obviously he was a very good hitter last year. But he has looked completely overmatched so far this year. TPJ-level overmatched. So yes, whether it’s due to injury/mechanics/“luck”—-he has not been major league quality. I think it’s part of the reason they’re sending him to Arizona to “get away from it all.” That’s why the BABIP and LD numbers don’t hold as much weight with me as they usually would—-he’s injured and/or mechanically as disaster. I’m not saying it’s something that can’t be fixed, or that he’ll never be able to hit in the majors, I’m just saying that right now he is broken—physically, mentally, mechanically, all of the above, whatever. Look, Lance Berkman has a similar BABIP to Aviles (.223 to .228). He’s also off to a very slow start. It would obviously be insane to say that he isn’t a MLB-quality hitter. But I haven’t seen, heard, or read anything about an injury effecting his performance, or any mechanical flaws. His peripherals are pretty much in line with his career stats. Nothing stands out with him like this does with Aviles. To me, luck is the least of his concerns right now.
Aviles career K% rates :
2003 Rookie League: 13.2
2004 Wilmington: 12.3
2005 Wichita: 12.2
2006 Omaha: 10.2
2007 Omaha: 11.0
2008 Omaha: 10.7
2008 Kansas City: 13.8
2009 Kansas City: 21.7
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Luck
To me, luck is the least of his concerns right now.
Luck isn’t something one should be concerned with, as one cannot affect one’s luck. But luck is a big part of why Aviles’s BA/OBP/SLG and wOBA are poor. And, given his forearm injury, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if his hitting mechanics were off. It’s not like his mechanics were poor last year. If they are suddenly different this year, and he’s hurt, I think there’s a very likely causal relationship there. And, one would think that when he’s recovered and rehabbed from his injury, his normal mechanics should return, as should hitting results of his true talent level (whatever that is, which remains to be seen). So far, given what he’s done in the majors in his short MLB career, I see no evidence that he’s not a MLB-quality hitter and great deal of evidence that he is.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent...so we agree....
Luck isn’t something one should be concerned with, as one cannot affect one’s luck.
Thanks for that brand new piece of information regarding luck. Also, that may be a world record for most uses of the word “one” in a single sentence. (at 4:05 AM at that….impressive!)
And while you may believe that luck is a “big” part of Aviles’ poor numbers, I think it’s got more to do with injury/mechanical flaws. To me, those factors are the “big” part of his numbers being TPJ-esque. He has been lost at the plate, mentally and physically. It was painful to watch him in hte last week or so before he got placed on the DL. But as we both have said, hopefully he can fix those issues in Arizona and return to his true self….which is hopefully somewhere between the two extremes we’ve seen from him in ’08 (good) and ’09 (bad).
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sense hostility
Meh, probably just my imagination.
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by NYRoyal on May 26, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah...
hostility = lame
by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 27, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think any of these players would block Aviles.
They would block TPJ, so I think that they would be a plus, go for the best defender who does not hit like TPJ, and its an upgrade, so go with Crosby.
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by BabyBlues on May 26, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wOBA comparison by age (since most of these options are 29-30)


by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 26, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
let's pick up the blue guy
he’s been pretty consistent
by I need more Esteban on May 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
tremendous
but you forgot the “/joemorgan”
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by devil_fingers on May 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aviles looks terrible
Maybe the stats say he’s hitting line drives, but he looks lost at the plate. I wouldn’t object to him going to Omaha to work on his swing. I don’t know if we should pick up another shortstop – I think Bloomie and Tugger could probably handle it for a few weeks – but I think Aviles definitely needs a demotion.
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by RoyalsRetro on May 26, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more
I’m maybe the biggest Aviles supporter on this board and he looks totally different from last year. He is regularly stepping towards 3rd base which early in the year was making him pull the ball to the SS. He is missing hittable pitches that last year he stuck in the gaps or over the wall. When he does hit the ball to the right side of the field it is with little pop.
Prior to the season I mentioned I didn’t like the fact that he played so much baseball and if fatigue in the forearms is the problem then I guess it came back to bite him.
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by kcscoliny on May 26, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always been curious as to why
he steps towards third, he definitely did it last season too
by I need more Esteban on May 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whose the best defender in the list?
Is there a cheaper, better defensive SS out there? Let’s get him because I’m so sick of dribblers going through the left side hole and up the middle and our entire defense being awful. Get a great SS in the infield and maybe the rest of the defense responds a little
by I need more Esteban on May 26, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would be for this
Jack Wilson would be great if it weren’t for his ridiculous salary. Maybe John McDonald is available? Any good glove men lurking on benches or in the minors?
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by RoyalsRetro on May 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about

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by RoyalsRetro on May 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
make it stoooop
by I need more Esteban on May 26, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as it isn't Christian Guzman...
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by buddyball on May 26, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What would it take...
…to get Troy Tulowitzki? I’d trade Teahen for him right now.
by RaulDuke on May 26, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
without looking at his numbers
I’m going make a wild speculation: it would take more than Mark Teahen. Even more than Mark Teahen + John Buck.
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by devil_fingers on May 26, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His numbers aren't good this year
and Colorado may be willing to part ways with him for something decent. Teahen + a young bullpen arm would do it I think.
by AxDxMx on May 27, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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