What Now

A post that discusses possible trades as the Royals decline thru May.

5 months ago CollininCalifornia 22 comments 1 recs |

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I see some possibilities there. If we’re going to keep improving year by year we need to make some quality trades and quality draft picks, and right now I’m not sure I can trust the judgement there due to some past desicions. I still have faith though, I mean why wouldn’t I? Just look at my sig.

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by ratherfantastic on May 30, 2009 12:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah that comment was pretty much word fluff...

but I don’t care

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by ratherfantastic on May 30, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure

JoGui is below replacement level…

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 30, 2009 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hmmm…

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does this mean Guillen is costing $13 million this year?

by Gopherballs on May 30, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's about right

so far…

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by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha! that's for backing me up there, d_f

I know it’s hard to believe that JoGui is below replacement level, especially when listening to the mainstream media, but the numbers are what they are.

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by CollininCalifornia on May 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

like I said earlier on this topic

it would be a remarkable “achievement” if his defense kept up this pace. It simply has to regress to the mean. He’s bad, but I find it hard to believe that he’s the worst defensive outfielder of the decade. Brad Hawpe was “only” about -40 runs over all of last year, and he’s way, way worse than Guillen.

Still…. not good

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by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even when he only has a range of about 20 feet around him?

If the ball isn’t a fly ball he isn’t getting to it.

by AxDxMx on May 30, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Without looking at stats,

what MLB team would take him as a right fielder?

I can’t think of any.

That leaves us with the AL teams, is he really DH worthy? He wouldn’t even DH for the Royals against RH pitchers.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 30, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Without worry about money/trades?

Atlanta would probably be better off with him. His defense has to regress, and he’s better than Francoeur. The money’s a huge problem with any of these ideas.

The Nationals always need outfielders… um…

The Mets are using Gary Sheffield

I’m working here… How about the Angels? Wait…

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by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Without worry about money, it's a stretch.

Throw in his contract and we’re stuck.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 30, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still waiting for this sure to come rapidly Adam Dunn Decline....

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by billybeingbilly on May 30, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jacobs for Brandon Wood (is that giving to much?)

Call up Kila

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by focs on May 30, 2009 3:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Angels seem to dislike Wood for some reason

They just might take Jacobs for him.

by AxDxMx on May 30, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jacobs, DeJesus, Hochevar, Mahay, Olivo, Farnsworth

I’d be fine with seeing any of them go. Jacobs to SF for Johnathan Sanchez would be one idea. I think Jacobs could definately land us a starter, even if not Sanchez. We could bring up Kila to replace Jacobs. We have Brayan Pena to bring up if Olivo is dealt. We still have 2 lefties in the bullpen even if we trade Mahay, and if they get rid of Ramirez, DiNardo is pitching well in Omaha.

by ryancrist1986 on May 30, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The problem with trading Jacobs:

Other teams see the Royals playing Billy Butler at first base for his defense.

So almost all national league teams are out. And Jacobs .800 – .825 OPS, while better than Ross Gload isn’t exactly all-star caliber.

Are there any GMs out there that overvalue HRs and under value defense, OBP and OPS?

by Top Ramen on May 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That guy in Kansas City seems like a candidate

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by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is it possible that the Royals nation is over-reacting to a team slump?

other teams go thru these types of stretches.

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by buddyball on May 30, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I definitely think it's possible.

Looking at the cast of characters though, it could also be how this team plays in general.

I don’t think the Royals are quite as bad as they have been the last few weeks, but I think it is closer to their “true” talent level than the unbelievable start was.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure in general

but before the season, many saw this as a not-quite-.500 team, and that’s about how they’ve played over the season. So if they Royals are coming closer to not realistically contending, it’s worth thinking about the future and who should be moved.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

we don't overreact....

crazy people….

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by 306008 on May 31, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs