Royals Review: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: The Record of Wrongs: Vanderbilt Commodores

According to this article, opposing players lines went from
5 + Run Games, 7th inning or later sample size of around 700 Pa's
.327 / .391 / .718 with out A-Rod at short
.340 / .472 / .812 with A-rod possibly tipping pitches

Is that enough of a difference with enough sample size to draw any conclusions?

9 months ago Tiny BabyBlues 8 comments 0 recs  | 

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

So what is the percentile of adding 100 ops to your average over a season for a

“guy” that has a lot of data? Got to be in the 70-80 percentile. Add to that the sources that said he cheated that way, his lying, evidence that he used in high school and used HGH and low doses of testosterone while playing with the Yankees to fool the testing, and you have a really ugly picture forming of A-Rod. There is a good chance it is all true, but it will never be proven I don’t think.

Go Royals!

by BabyBlues on May 4, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still think there's a giant truism in this chain

we think arod was tipping because more offense happened in those games

my concern is that we still don’t know where he was when Natalie Holloway disappeared

by royalsreview on May 4, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the numbers are suspicious

given the great pitching Texas had in the pitcher-friendly park

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If there is evidence he was tipping pitches

Would that be a ban-worthy offense?

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 5, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

funny thing

the usual A-Rod defenders (whom I mostly agree with, by the way), take two different positions, which, while not completely contradictory, stand in stark contrast:

1) No way. there’s no evidence. Teammates like Michael Young say they would have known. If he did it, he should be suspended, but he didn’t.

2) The evidence isn’t very compelling, but if he did, it’s no big deal, because players have “grooved” pitches for opponents, etc. before.

I don’t know with A-Rod. I sort of doubt it, The stuff about him calling pitches for Einar Diaz when he first came over, didn’t know the pitchers, makes me think that Roberts might have gotten mixed up, conveniently enough for her book. I guess nothing’s impossible, but I just doubt that he did it. Then again, every time I think we’ve heard the last of him (and, frankly, nothing against A-Rod, I’d like to not hear anything about him for the next 3 years or so),

Personally, I think if a player is shown to have done it (and I doubt they really can with A-Rod), they probably should be punished in some way. Even if it doesn’t effect the outcomes of games, it does effect the numbers of other pitchers and hitters who aren’t in the game willingly, and although I’m sure some here thing that Roy Oswalt is a horrible person for getting upset about the A-Rod tihng, he has a point: that stuff does effect his (and others’) paychecks. We don’t know with steroids, but if people are “helping” some players out and not others, that does have an effect on how pay is distributed come contract time. If I was a player not in on that, I’d be pissed, and rightly so.

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 5, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Kansas City Royals.
Start posting about the Royals »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

K_small
Moore-isms Translated
Royals_85_small
Dating More = Dayton Moore

Recent FanPosts

Small
Baseball America Top 32
Images_small
BBQ, Beer, and Baseball
Small
OT: The Who = embarrassing
Royalsreview_small
I Will Be On a Podcast Tonight
Bsnublcd_small
The Case for Michael McKenry
_41153080_gallerysanta_small
OT: Royals Review Fantasy Football Keeper League
Small
Justification
Royalsreview_small
Super Bowl Open Thread
39135485-59af19dbb26654095f910f34176af094_4ae8a81e-scaled_small
Predictions Group

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Royalsreview_small royalsreview