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The Writers of "The Office" Have No Knowledge of Rust Belt Geography

Obligatory Youngstown blight photo.

Obligatory Youngstown blight photo.

I have had my doubts before. In one episode the boys from Scranton drove to Utica and back to battle Karen (a three hour drive) and made it back well before the end of the work day. Tonight's episode clinched it: the writers of "The Office" have no knowledge of rust belt geography.

In case you missed it, the B story of this week's lighthearted episode was that Pam & Jim were going to leave work early to get married in Youngstown, Ohio. Not skip the day to do it, not drive there at night and do it the next day, no: leave early, do it that day.

Scranton is 310 miles from Youngstown. I swear Pam said they were leaving at 3PM, but at the very least it was after lunch when they were getting ready to leave. Scranton to Youngstown is a five hour drive, maybe four and a half with speeding and no stops.

C'mon guys, I know you all live in LA and are probably from the East Coast originally, but you can do better than this.

As anyone who has ever driven from anywhere vaguely around Chicago to anywhere on the Atlantic Coast, Pennsylvania is the worst part of the drive, it never ever ends, ever.

So actually we can eliminate any of the staff ever living around Chicago, or went to college around there either.

I'm sure there's some small gag factor in getting married in Youngstown, generally considered one of the worst cities in America, I get that. But that's why you're pros... find another awful city that's drivable.

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I wondered about this myself...

though I was much to lazy to actually look up the distance.

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on May 7, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks to Gary Lezak, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Everyone in KC got 30 minutes of Doppler Radar and Gary Lezak and another weather guy prattling on and on about a tornado in Lock Springs and Utica and Davies County and whatever the hell.

I know KC is part of the Midwest, and Midwesterners in general are obsessed with weather, but do we really need two meteorologists warning us about thunderstorms and whatnot for 30 minutes? We know to go in the basement by now.

I will never forgive Gary Lezak for this.

by hippdoghipp on May 7, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I remember one time in New Orleans

there was a hurricane threat that wasn’t really a threat because it was really far away and ultimately went nowhere near us. Our local Fox station decided to preempt a World Series game. People kept calling the station so much to say they wanted to see the baseball game that the weather guy actually went a little too crazy saying “DON’T YOU SEE HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. WHO CARES ABOUT BASEBALL. OUR VERY LIVES ARE IN DANGER”

This was pre-Katrina

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on May 7, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's easier to predict them that way

Royals baseball. Where .260 would be orgasmic. [I was right! We're hitting .265 and we are fairly orgasmic right now.]

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 8, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing like settling into your couch, firing up the DVR, looking forward to another episode...

and then you get to watch the first 30 seconds or so before Gary “Egomaniak” Lezak’s big ugly head suddenly appears front and center on your TV. And you fast forward, hoping that it’s only a brief interruption, no big deal…but your heart slowly sinks as more and more time passes and the only thing you see is a gigantic, 3D, Technicolor, Super-Duper Doppler 8 weather map, with occasional cut-ins to some random guy who looks like he spends 24 hours a day sitting in a chair and staring at said Doppler radar screen. And it gets even better when you realize that the map is showing a storm system moving over towns in northwest/central Missouri that are so tiny you don’t even recognize the names (even though you went to college in northwest Missouri).

The next morning you wake up and feverishly scour the internet for stories, pictures, and videos of all the immense destruction and carnage that these F7500 tornados must have assuredly wrought on these north central Missouri metropolises. Otherwise, why on earth would KSHB have chosen to spend a full half hour pre-empting one of the most popular shows on its affiliated network, showing over and over again in hyperdetail, the possibility of strong winds and “tornadic activity” over the farmhouse of Mr. and Mrs. Wiley E. Wanamaker, which of course, Mr. and Mrs. Wanamaker would not have been watching themselves because they were already hanging out down in the cellar? Why? Not because they have their own Super-Duper Doppler 8 radar in their house that they are intently scrutinizing, but because they’ve lived in the Midwest for years and years and they have a modicum of common sense. Unfortunately, you CANNOT say the same thing about the KSHB producers and weatherpeople.

And then you see…nothing happened. Not a single mention of any tornados. No damage. Not even a broken tree limb. Not even on KSHB’s own website, which is odd, because you would assume that they had dispatched their entire fleet of news vans to every possible location of “tornadic activity” in order to bring us breathless reports about how everyones’ lives had been changed forever. And then you realize that you want to immediately drive to “NBC Action News” headquarters and punch both Mr. Lezak and his producer(s) right in their faces.

Alright. Rant over. You may now resume your regularly scheduled broadcasts.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on May 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know tho,

living in NYC, when we DO have severe weather which is about 1 1/2 times a year there’s nothing on the local stations. No warning, nothing to indicate that we’re in a severe thunderstorm watch, no radars, midwesteren weather junkies like me are left out in the cold.

It was getting over the top by the time I moved out of the midwest but I really do miss the on-screen weather updates.

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lived in dayton, ohio. a very short trip to youngstown, or as most people around southern ohio like to say,

Gunstown. I would never want to get married there, Youngstown is a HUGE place for the bloods gang. I mean it, huge. Gunstown, they do have a good diary farm though, with good ice cream.

"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde

by cfizzle on May 7, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

davenport.

"I can resist everything but temptation." - oscar wylde

by cfizzle on May 7, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1/quad

Royals baseball. Where .260 would be orgasmic. [I was right! We're hitting .265 and we are fairly orgasmic right now.]

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 8, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Penn State grad

I can attest that Pennsylvania is the longest state to drive across. Even Kansas seems to go by faster (though not by much). In fact, I’ve driven from Scranton to Youngstown with stops in State College and Newcastle. It’s no picnic, and I wouldn’t do it in a work day.

by Cairo on May 8, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least it's not Texas

terrible, draining drive when you’re going across anything but the handle.

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on May 8, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Illinois

Personally, I find it much more tedious to drive across Illinois. It’s doesn’t actually take as long as PA, of course, but the combination of high-quality highways, lower speed limits than MO, and a police car in the median about every mile or so really started to grate on my nerves…

by Nathan_H on May 8, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Ohio.

I realize it probably doesn’t take the longest to drive through, but I absolutely dread the driving-through-Ohio part of any trip I take. Of course, I also hate pretty much everything else about Ohio. The only redeeming thing the whole state has going for it is the fact it produced Joe Posnanski.

I am Billy Butler's Gold Glove.

by cbrett42 on May 8, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It bugs me

that people call Ohio the Midwest…

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 8, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i couldn't

disagree more. at least you get a couple of mountain ranges and some tunnels in PA. Kansas is such a black hole of flatlanding suckitude, I have to try really hard to not hate people just because they’re from there. I remind myself it’s not their fault they were born in level 7.5 of hell. I love Missouri, I love Colorado, I fucking hate kansas. seriously. it’s not ok that i can go to sleep for three hours traveling 70 miles an hour, wake up and have made no discernible progress. Illinois is quite lame, but at least there are traffic jam causing toll booths to scream at. Iowa is a close second to KS, is the speed limit there seriously still 55? is it 1989 there forever? wtf? hey, on these dead straight, flat roads, you can only drive at a speed that doesn’t necessitate the top gear on your transmission. ridiculous. OK has it figured out, 75 on the turnpike and don’t get real pissed about 85.

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on May 8, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually find central

Kansas a very beautiful landscape. The Flint Hills are a one of a kind area. Iowa is 65 but the HYPO out up there are so over-zealous you have to drive 55 not to get pulled over.

South Dakota is 75 and they have one HYPO office in Vermillion and that’s IT. Its pretty smooth sailing up there.

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 8, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is montana

still no DT speed limit? my civic hybrid only goes about 85 before the air frame shudders out of control. I suppose we’re pretty spoiled in MO with no tolls, 70 on the highway and 65 on limited access four lane.

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on May 8, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

and in response to the flint hills, i appreciate the unique geological elements of the area, I just have a hard time appreciating them when compared with the front range and the rockies and my own beloved ozarks.

"red bull is amaZing" -Coco Crisp

by grantfunk on May 8, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, just because you don't have the good sense

to drive through Kansas north-south instead of east-west is no reason to be so bitter. ;)

(Seriously, because almost every river in Kansas flows west-east, the difference in terrain between driving directions is sort of astonishing.)

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on May 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suspension of disbelief

The problems with this show’s plot run much deeper than you know. I looked it up, and there actually IS no paper company called Dunder Mifflin. Furthermore, Jim Halpert, Pam Beasly and Michael Scott don’t even actually exist. What could possibly possess the viewing public to tolerate this….this fiction? They’re putting things on TV that aren’t true!

by Nathan_H on May 8, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think Dunder Mifflin does actually exist

They have a website, therefore it must be true

http://www.dundermifflin.com/

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 8, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know, I'm familiar with the concept...

this is more akin to a random scene in a cafe, and someone orders a cup of coffee and it costs $100 dollars

but thanks for the patronizing comment

by royalsreview on May 8, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are no words

No!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! What horrible fiction is this?!?!!??!!

Liars!

This is the deference between TV shows and baseball, baseball is real life. Except the players get payed more money than I’ll make in a life time, and get this monetary gain for playing a game. But besides that it is real life………….right?

what will I hold on to now?

by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on May 8, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

has cleveland recorded an out in the sixth yet?

just curious.

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 8, 2009 1:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cafe Disco

I like the new receptionist, she reminds me of a really cute but dorky ex-gf. She was a lot of fun.

Its been a while since I’ve felt good about an office episode. The last month or so has just been depressing. I really don’t need any more depressing in my life.

Isn’t the Great Mark Mangino from Youngstown Ohio?

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 8, 2009 8:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought Casual Day was pretty good...

I laughed out loud (and cringed at the same time) when Meredith was hiking up (or pulling down) her tube suit. That was disgustingly funny. The rest of the season has been a total yawner and feels like the writers have run out of gas.

by RaulDuke on May 8, 2009 8:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah - that was pretty good.

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 8, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

blame Mose

first he stops running FJM then he leaves for Parks and Recreation…the nerve of that guy

by AronV on May 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My old college roomate was from Youngstown

I think he used to say his town was known for producing two things – Paul Maguire and Al Bundy. I think Jim Tressel is from there too.

Relive Royals History at royalsretro.blogspot.com

by RoyalsRetro on May 8, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bob Stoops is from Youngstown, too,

as is Bo Pelini. I kinda like that town…it’s gritty like Willie Bloomquist and Mark Grudzielanek’s adopted son (but not as gritty as their natural-born son would be).

I stop to eat there before driving on into Pennsylvania on I-80, where the options are fewer and far between. There’s a Long John Silver’s there that I’ve been known to visit.

by mikewormdog on May 8, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Football as we know it was born in NE Ohio/W Pa

The number of famous players and coaches from that region is staggering. The Wall Street Journal did an article about it last year. Add Gary Pinkel, Mark Mangino and Urban Meyer to your list of top college coaches from that area.

by Olentangy on May 10, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Les Miles

Since 2006 every coach that has coached in the BCS championship game is from NE Ohio!

by Olentangy on May 10, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

finally got to watch it

Dwight continues to affirm my Dwight=Jim this season hypothesis

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by devil_fingers on May 12, 2009 2:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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