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By the way, this cutter (or "no-seam" fastball as Bannister likes to call it) and his slider have really developed into quality pitches. It certainly helps in the ground ball and double play department.

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I think the "Bannister has poor stuff" meme isn't entirely accurate

Bannister is throwing mostly cutter and slider this year. And the cutter and slider are actually good pitches. His four-seam fastball isn’t very good and he’s wisely using it sparingly. It seems like some people think that “stuff” = velocity. It doesn’t. Velocity is one element of stuff. Movement and velocity differential are important as well.

Another thing that helps a pitcher succeed is choosing the right pitch combinations. If a batter thinks you’re going to throw one pitch and instead you throw another, you’ve got a good chance to succeed. Bannister was excellent at this in 2007 and he has been this year as well.

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by Scott McKinney on May 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he could prove to be a #3-quality starter

But maybe not. He is still a big question mark. I do think he’ll prove to be at least a competent #4 SP.

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by Scott McKinney on May 8, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he does settle down

to be a competent middle rotation starter. I like Banny. I know some people think he makes excuses and whatever, but he has always struck me as a genuine guy.

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by kcbottom9th on May 8, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I've told this tory before, but it's been a while...

In October of ’07, I had the extreme good fortune to play in the Steve Young/Jerry Rice Bay Area Golf Classic. I won/bought the trip for $8 and about 600,000 fake moneys earned on Protrade.com…

Anyway, aside from mingling with Steve & Jerry, and playing in the same foursome as Brent Jones & Steve Compton (the owner of the San Jose Sharks) I also got the chance to sit down & have a long talk w/ Brian Bannister and his girlfriend (fiance?wife?) after dinner. Supposedly Floyd was actually supposed to play, but there was a mix-up or something & Brian came up from Southern Cal to fill his spot at the last second.

He thought I was a big shot (this golf tourney was $25K entry fee for a fore some, & I got in for $8 :) ), so he was pretty open with me, and he was very cool & engaging. I was a fan of his before that, but I’ve steadily, quietly been in his corner since then.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 8, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

great story

you have a ton of them

too bad that good person doesn’t always = good player

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 8, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

But it does make it easier to root for a guy.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 9, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree

Except for DDJ, since it just shows that he’s not enough of a competitor

Was it you who had Pujols shoot a liner/home run over your head in college?

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 9, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm still surprised

that i read following the 2007 season, an article explaining how brian bannister’s two seam fastball was his best pitch by far (by mike fast i want to say), and that brian then switched to a four seamer in 2008.

i wish him and his two-seam fastball the best of luck in the coming business year.

by 9il on May 9, 2009 2:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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