Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: The Amateur Mathematics Of Linsanity

Impotent Offense Dooms Royals Again in Anaheim

We've got a new contestant for the Worst Loss of the Year Sweepstakes, and maybe the first one that didn't also involve a Hillman controversy.

Take tonight's game as another example of how stupid pitcher wins and losses are, as Zack Greinke was done in by an impotent offense that was shutout by Joe Saunders. Tonight, at least, Saunders + Royal Hitters equaled something like Greinke himself on the mound, as the Royals managed only five singles and a walk. Saunders tossed a complete game shutout, and he only needed 101 pitches to do so.

The boys in blue have scored just one run in two games in Anaheim, and may need a strong start from Davies tomorrow to avoid a buzzkilling sweep.

On a game to game basis, baseball's the least predictable major sport; there's just something about the fundamental nature of the game that makes the gap between teams smaller, which is why, in part, that we play 162 games.

Two days ago, the Royals were on a six game winning streak, and had just watched their #4 and #5 starters cruise to easy victories. They had Meche and Greinke going against a scuffling Angels team.

Well, two days later, the Royals now own a two game losing streak.

Comment 143 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Heartbreaking loss

Greinke was helped by some great defense though (especially in the OF) and was somewhat lucky to give up only one run without his best stuff tonight.

Are there any SS on the trading block?

- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes

by JobDDT on May 9, 2009 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Why didn't anyone want Orlando Cabrera during the offseason again?

I can’t really remember… oh yeah. Aviles was the savior!

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought he was going to be more expensive than he ended up being

+ cost a second round draft pick

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 9, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like Juan Cruz?

:)

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 9, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe Farnsi and TPJ should flip rolls?

I bet Farnsi could hit .185

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone cut the

head off of a chicken STAT!

I've got crazy flipper fingers!

by labbadabba on May 9, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorano's bat cursed.

Anyone got a live chicken?

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive watched all the games this year

And this one just crushed my soul. I’m livid. Aviles is so horribly bad and we had so many opportunities this one hurts

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

lol outdueled

it’s nto even fair to mention greinke’s name in that headline

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 9, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't tell from the AP pic

is zack wearing one, too?

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Phiten.

Good choice.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soria has one of those too..

maybe that’s where he got the idea. Of course prob not many people have seen it since Soria only appears once every Full Moon cycle.

by Fernando Vina School of Linguistics on May 9, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game sucked for Royals fans

From the offensive standpoint at least. 5 hits? Saunders with 101 total pitches? 3 separate innings with 7 pitches? None with more than 17? Olivo makes a mistake that 17 of my high school baseball players HAVE NOT made the last two seasons. (17 guys on my team both years).

ZG didn’t have great stuff tonight. Not even close to what he’s had. And guess what. He pitched great. 1 run in 8 innings. Got out of jams. I thought he used his slow curve more than normal tonight but I never saw him break 94 on the gun. And that was just a few times that he got to 94. But he proved he is a great pitcher tonight. He held his team in the game the entire game. The offense has got to pick it up for him and Gil both. I don’t like this attitude of ZG/Gil is on the mound, we’ll be fine with one or two.

What we needed was one of our two aces to give us at least a win in the first two games in Anaheim. Both gave us a chance to win and both faced ineptness. Meche had a flyball dropped and turned into an inside the parker… not the little league kind where they throw the ball away to every base, the little league kind where the outfielder drops it and it goes to the fence. ZG had a catcher range to far off of second base and get tagged out on a little league base running mistake. Just as a reminder to all those little leaguers. When you are on second base and a groundball is hit in front of you or to your right, you go back to the base until the throw is made. If it is hit to your left, you advance. He must have missed that in spring training.

Bottom line: Bad loss. Great outing from our pitchers so far in Anaheim. Offensive failure. We have to get the bats going for Davies tomorrow. And soft tossing speed changing lefties are KILLING us this year.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Every year.
And soft tossing speed changing lefties are KILLING us this year

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait until we see Eveland later this week in Oakland...

That’s the meaning of ugly.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saunders Was Hitting

93MPH in the 9th.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 9, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he got juiced... But his assortment of pitches featured mostly changes to the RH

And curves to the LH… fastballs were sprinkled in…

I guess I meant more of his pitching style as soft tossing… it’s the opposite of the ZG style.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speed Differential Is

What matters. If you can throw 93, batters can’t sit on the soft shit.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's A Hybrid

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

depending

you can. If a pitcher doesn’t adjust, I’d sit soft away all day and blast it oppo. Fight off the fastballs or don’t even swing until you have two strikes… it’s almost the exact opposite of the Seitzer approach where you pick out a good fastball and let everything else go.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to freak out early over two losses or anything

but at what point do you consider getting another bat in a trade to keep us in this thing?

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe that point was two weeks ago for me....

others?

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same

Barry Bonds COME ON DOWN

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Zimmerman from the Nationals?

We could give them Gordon and Farnsi and Mahay. Gets us a power RH and 3B.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

zimmerman?

theyd never give that up, hes the only thing selling tickets

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.... just threw it out there.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Here, have the bad choice from the 2005 draft, the worst RP in the majors and an old guy."

PS can we have ur best player? lol

- W. Bloomquist homered to deep center
- P. Earth explodes

by JobDDT on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

well two weeks ago..

we were still winning. ha its no fun to suggest trades on a winning team, ask tony g. but in all seriousness, wouldnt it be worth it to part ways with a butler and someone else for a decent bat? and focs i like the idea of barry bonds but then youd have a hugely annoyed bench

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade Billy, then Alex could play 1B.

Hmmm.. interesting.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that..

Gordon is a good 1B too

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wanna know what I hate talking about this shit..

I get so excited about the idea but know it will never happen and I get pissed

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

so:

alex at 1b, barry at dh, and let jacobs try third. winning formula fail

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsi to short, TPJ to the pen.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how trading Butler

for a bat is much of an upgrade.

Billy’s been hitting well the last few weeks and he’s still very young.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 9, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right.

Contending this year is a bonus to our team building for the future. Not winning it all this year. Trading could put us back a year or two.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

in terms of the cavalry

moose-tacos is the only real weapon in the next year wed get anyway..

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

because his value may never be higher

and you can get a lot for him…

(i said may never not will never just remember that)

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may never be higher,

but he’ll likely be more valuable than someone you get in a trade for the next 3 years.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 9, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way does anyone know..

the news on hochevar? isnt he dominating the minors.. im sick of fat sydney and sometimes bri-bann messin with the rotation

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

well Bannister has been pretty good.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

his numbers are BUT

hes squirmed out of seemly every other inning. wheres hoch?!

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, he was laboring on Thursday at the K.

Hoch is in Omaha, until Davies, Ponson, or Bannister gives GMDM a reason to bring him up.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 9, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoch knows that his role right now is in AAA

Does he want to be up? You beat. But he knows the business too…. He has been pitching like ZG has…. studly. There was a good article on MiLB.com this week about him… no one linked it…

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 9, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herzog Called Splitt

His “Top step pitcher” because his foot was always on the top step, about to pull him. He squirmed out of more jams than anyone else I can recall.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that line.

If you were thinking, you wouldn't have thought that.

by Warden11 on May 10, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once Again

Sidney has been more effective than Davies by FAR this season.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did not watch most of the game

but sounds like a really bad approach tonight, swinging at a lot of first pitches, not making the pitchers work, etc. We absolutely wore the White Sox pitchers out this past week. FWIW, we do seem to be struggling offensively against lefties this year.

We need to go get ‘em tomorrow, to get back on the horse. Let’s hope that they have a better approach tomorrow.

I hereby resign from this post.

by Home Run Tony Cogan on May 9, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

People lose divisions by 1 game..

im done buying the its just 2 games lecture

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 9, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't buy into the 6 game winning streaks either then

just walk away and avoid the possible disappointment.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 9, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does yelling at the screen like a bunch of crazed maniacs

make our hitters hit better?
make our pitchers throw more strikes?

I mean, I know it’s an emotional game. But this is just been nuts the last few days.

by sterlingice on May 9, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait until September and we're still in it.

At least we have a reason to yell still. Usually we are 10 GB by now.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

what is baseball

without the overly analytical debates? the nba. and we dont want that!

by greinke23 on May 9, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for it

Debates are fun. Discussions and community are why we are here, right?

But there’s a difference between “#$ #$^%#$ #^#$%#$@ DDJ” and “#% @$^ %^#$ Olivo” on some pitch in the 4th inning and talking about the relative merits of Buck vs Olivo (if there are any ;) ).

I’m not even saying this is a completely G-rated board- that’s RR’s job to figure those things out. But, again, on every pitch and every player and every inning. It’s just tired.

by sterlingice on May 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

hollldd upp

are you implying that we should ditch either buck or olivo

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are all adults atleast most of us..

is it really that bad to read a bad word.. im sure you heard it a lot.. i bet there is a lot of people on here that doesn’t curse regularly but we have all heard it and it is a way to release frustration IMO.. i dont think it is bad

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Words are words. They have no power.

IS there a difference in these two sentences?

Miguel Olivo needs to learn to take a fucking pitch!
Miguel Olivo needs to learn to take a flipping pitch!

What is getting on my nerves on this site is the little kiddies that are coming in and claim they like debate, and to analyze the moves that are made….until they are disagreed with, then whoever is disagreeing with them are idiots that don’t know shit about the game. Hell, even half the time when they are being AGREED with they still argue right back.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO WE DON'T!!!!!1111

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 10, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, there is totally a difference

if you said Olivo needed to take a “flipping pitch,” it could be construed as him needing to take a breaking ball. Which he really needs to do

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on May 10, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the basic rule

comments about things (positive or negative) = cool
comments about other people on this board = not cool

I don’t mind a certain amount of salty language, especially in a game thread. But calling people names is step one towards being banned.

by Freneau on May 10, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you focs

It’s just one game. Yeah, and this is JV baseball. Shut your mouths and understand the enormity of this. It’s bigger than just one game. It’s a season on the line! You have your two aces and neither gets a win although BOTH pitch well enough too…. How many wins you going to get from Davies? Ponson? Banni? Hoch? You have to win the games you have to win.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed..

win the one’s you should so it wont hurt as bad when you lose the one’s that will be hard to win

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

They Are Going

To lose games. Baseball is pretty random, and any pitcher that makes it to the bigs can be dominant on a good night.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true.

You raise a good point. That is why it’s even more important to win these games… 2nd and 3rd and Olivo runs into our lead runner? Give me a break…

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he wasnt that dominant

thats the problem.. theres games where you just have to tip your cap.. but when you get your leadoff man on 4 straight innings and cant get him in.. not to mention all the other favorable situations.. is just ridiculous and I would hardly call this a dominating performance

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitchers Can Dominate

With runners on base. His junkballs were in good spots, and he was still hitting 93 in the 9th. We fucked up some baserunning for sure, though.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

our approach was shit, put any other team in there tonight and he gets scored on

the end. this wasn’t a complete game 10k performance

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 10, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

We Sure Could

Have seen more pitches and some of the bullpen.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

maybe we should consider this the receipt for one of Davies early starts

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 10, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You gotta be kidding me.

Even the ’98 Yankees and ’01 Mariners had 4-game losing streaks.

And you’re demanding an accounting for a twofer, as if that’s just a totally unacceptable disaster of epic proportion?

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on May 10, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, the '01 Mariners choked in the ALCS

and that’s why

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 10, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

though I'm sure that in all four games they didn't make rookie mistakes....

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously

its blown up because it was Greinke’s start and it was Joe Saunders on the mound.. Good teams shouldn’t get shut out by him… in fact he had shut no one out prior to this game

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

and its frustrating

to get beat like that, with everyone watching

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

this is a fan base used to demoralizing losses turning into massive losing streaks

realistically speaking

by slayor on May 10, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

never even thought of that

/slits wrist

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

/rushes focs to the hospital

We’ve got October still!

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Saunders

was a 1st round pick that has had a good career to this point. He isn’t Ho-Ram or something!

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You dont understand

The two best pitchers on our team did their job. The rest of the team did not. For us to contend, we have to win nearly everyone of their starts and half of the other guys. For us to GIVE away two games that we should have won with our two best pitchers on the mound… if you don’t understand that we might as well stop discussing it now.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

because we lost these two games we could be looking at a 4-5 game losing streak.. god i hope not

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the worst part is

JoGui turned a FB into a HR.

Olivo made the biggest baserunning mistake I’ve seen in 5 years.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I don’t know about the 5 years. These Royals have patented bad base running. How many times have we seen DDJ flub up on baserunning? Many, many times, very stupidly. Teahen tried to stretch a double the other day quite poorly. Was it Maier the other the day that got sent home on a fly ball to short left field? There are many examples.

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 10, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

wasnt maier safe?

i wasnt watching that night, but i think i remember people saying that he clearly shouldnt have been called out

Fire Hillman

by billybeingbilly on May 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

bang bang play

ball was there, tag was a little high. technically he was probably safe, but you’ll only get that call1/10 times when the ball beats you there.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the White Sox got that call

earlier in the same game — even though Pierzynski was actually out.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on May 10, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

BUT

lets say greinke goes 17-5 and the rest of the staff goes .500
thats a 87-75 season

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

plus

meche and the bullpen.. i think between em soria and cruz are 3-0 and that counts

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the freaking Twins win the division

with a record of 88-74

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

and we can look at this day

when some of you said.. its just 2 games

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

this about the teams that have lost to Bannister, Davies, or Ponson

they probably will end up feeling the same way

I'm not a sabermetrician, but I do play one at Driveline Mechanics.

by Matt Klaassen on May 10, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, seriously, grip.

Even if we win 90, we’re going to lose 72.

SEVENTY-TWO. That’s enough losses for 18 4-game losing streaks.

Y’all gotta remember, we’re still comfortably over .500 and the smell of fresh National League meat is just over the hill there.

This space for rent.

by jonfmorse on May 10, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we're more worried about how we lost, not that we lost

Chances to win in all four games… today for instance, GIDP… oops, thrown into CF.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

I think that truly great teams tend not to make silly mental errors that take themselves out of a winning situation – and their able to create pressure on the other team to help THEM to make those errors

First.

The General Theory of Royaltivity

by kabrink on May 11, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so frustrated right now.

I know we are making this a big deal, but we have to take our wins when they are there!

I’m going to bed to rewatch this debacle…

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

The Philllies

were shutout seven times last year, including one to the lowly Nationals. They won the Series. I’ll be more worried if we lose four or five in a row.

by CaseyRoyal on May 10, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's Baseball. It

Can and does happen to the best of them.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

except

the royals and last years phillies couldnt be any more different

sexy g, hes not sexy, twenny three: hes zack greinke

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah what i mean is

they did it with home runs.. and a lot of em

we do it with pitching

sexy g, hes not sexy, twenny three: hes zack greinke

by greinke23 on May 10, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Was 21

When the Royals started the 3 year run of playoffs against the Yankees; don’t make me go there. j/k

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets give a little credit to the Angels

They have been getting lucky situational hitting but their starting pitchers have been really good.

I think Trey has made some mistakes, not pinch hitting for Jacobs last night with 2 on and then bunting tonight with Coco and DDJ coming up. Coco is a slap hitter, to expect him to drive a ball for a sac fly is unrealistic. Aviles is struggling at the plate but if you are gonna set him up to fail by taking his bat out of his hand versus lefties then you might as well send him to Omaha.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 10, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. I Thought

He could have even batted higher in this order.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aviles big strong point last year was hitting behind DDJ in the hit and run

Moving Alberto or Aviles up to the 2 hole wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world versus lefties

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 10, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree...

I like the Hit & Run Part, but moving him up that high is a BIG risk…

Instead, Hit Callaspo/Bloomy 7th or 8th, and hit Aviles right behind him & do the Hit & Run thing with those 2. Callaspo is = the bad base stealer that DDJ is/Bloomy is better + they (so far) are getting on base more than DDJ.

Hit & Runs are a great way to get a struggling hitter out of his head and just focus on making contact

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Callaspo is a great contact hitter

and versus lefties could fit well in the 2 hole. I said versus lefties move them up not versus righties. DDJ isn’t swinging the stick all that well either so he could handle a move down v. LH.

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Callaspo could fit in at 2

vs lefties or righties, no doubt. But I fail to see how moving Aviles up helps him.

Just do the same thing at the bottom of your lineup. Basically, you’ve got 2 leadoff hitters, in Coco & Callaspo/Blommy, & their #2’s are DDJ & Aviles.

BOOM! ROASTED!

by GoBabies!! on May 10, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

i dont think coco is a slap hitter at all

Bloomquist. God? Or just an illusion? You be the judge.

by focs on May 10, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

His .435 SLG, .204 ISO and I would agree with you, focs

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on May 10, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coco Fans of the World, UNITE!!!

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on May 10, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

uniting!

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Career lines versus '09 2 months is probably

better line than this years SLG/iso .410/.132

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 10, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by kcscoliny on May 10, 2009 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Overreaction, much?

Trust me, I was at the game. It was terrible to watch. Awful. That was such a porous offensive performance, I don’t know what to say.

But it’s two games. Take a deep breath and chill out. It’s ridiculous to say that if we lose the division by a game, or whatever, then these are the two games that will be the difference. May 8th and May 9th. Yeah.

If lots of stuff breaks right, then we’ll probably end up with something around 88ish wins. That is pretty much the best chance possibility, save incredibly bezerkly optimistic awesomeness, and even then, we will lose 74 games. Repeat that number to yourself: 74 games.

74.

Don’t freak out and act like the season is over because of one two-game stretch. Ohmygoodness.

The season isn’t over. I promise. The key is to avoid the double-digit losing streak. As long as we can win before Meche pitches again, I think we’ll be OK.

by rockchalk on May 10, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Hey, even if we don't win until Meche

that’s still not a double-digit losing streak.

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on May 10, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two Posts In

A row with the phrase “double-digit losing streak”. You’re tempting fate.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 10, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

make that 3

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys have a legit team

But no power ….. until gordon comes back :(

RIP Nick Adenhart 4/9/09

by vlad IS my man on May 10, 2009 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Appreciate you coming over. But just for the record:

ISO

Royals .167 — 9th
Angels .137 — 23rd

Of course, that’s without Vladdy.

When your pitchers come back, I bet you guys end up running away with the division. The A’s suck this year, the Marinators aren’t good enough and the Rangers still doesn’t have enough pitching in my mind.

Good luck the rest of the way. I just couldn’t help it… :D

by rockchalk on May 10, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys make it sound like you lost by 9

you guys guys lost by one. ONE RUN! The angels couldn’t score anymore runs the rest of the game. Zack Greinke pitched amazingly and worked 8 strong innings. He looks like a Cy Young Caliber pitcher. Also you make Saunders sound like he’s a rookie pitcher. He got 17 wins last year. He is our current ace with Lackey and Santana down and hes been playing like one too. You guys played real well and hopefully you guys can play some October baseball. I am rooting for you guys in the AL Central.

Rest in Peace Adenhart

by princeton11loveshalos on May 10, 2009 1:57 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Appreciate your input, and I agree with you

I think most of the commentary have been kneejerk, emotional overreactions. It is definitely frustrating when your offense gets shutout…especially when your ace works a typically incredible game and only gives up one run. Such is life in baseball, however.

I think the Angels are clearly the strongest team in the AL West, and should come out on top after the injuries in the rotation get sorted out. The Mariners will likely fade, and the only threat you guys will face is from a Texas squad whose offense might somehow overcome their lack of quality pitching.

Here’s to this series being a potential preview of one of the ALDS’s.

"Now…put that in your [BLEEP]ing pipe and smoke it." -Hal McRae

"I was doing this when BJ was in his father's nutsack." -Renzo Gracie

by Sweep_the_Leg on May 10, 2009 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The scary thing is we can't expect Banni/Ponson

to keep putting up great numbers for us. They’ll revert. At the same time we can’t expect ZG/Meche to win 20 each. Maybe Zack, but probably not Meche although he’s capable. And we can’t expect Davies to scuffle the whole year.

When it all evens back out, these games that we were in position to take the lead and possible win will be more important. And yes, I realize we have over 100 games left.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saunders is good, but his ERA should have been higher last year.

This year too, although Fangraphs isn’t updated for his sheer dominance tonight.

He’s good, sure, but he isn’t a pitcher who should be shutting out potential playoff teams. Weird stuff happens in baseball, so whatever, but if it’s a consistent thing, it is worth worrying about.

Thanks for the support, though. And I agree with your overall point wholeheartedly: it’s just one game, we need to take a chill pill as a collective fanbase.

by rockchalk on May 10, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the one run loss hurts mroe than losing by 9

If we lost by 9, that means Greinke deserved to lose. But it’s just sad to see such a performance wasted on a loss.

Especially for a team that needs all the luck it can get to aspire to higher than a .500 record. I think perhaps we’re just not used to winning as a fanbase, and we’ve been accustomed to shutouts like this leading to worse times to come. Our offense has been playing way above its head until yesterday, so I hope this isn’t the beginning of a cratering.

Kansas City Royals: your 2006 and 2007 NL Central champions!

by mazoboom on May 10, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Grienke didn’t have his good stuff tonight. But he did a heckofa job battling. He pitched.

We are upset because we know what can happen to our team and quick. Davies is struggling, no one hits for Ponson, and Banni could turn into ’08 any minute!

Yes, Saunders had 17 wins last night, but that doesn’t excuse getting the leadoff guy on 4 times and not scoring….or Olivo killing us on the bases…. or JoGui dropping a fly ball in RF that the scorer scored wrong… or how the team reacts in situations like that. Before to long they’ll be thinking, this ones over and it’s 1-0 in the 5th… trust me. I’ve seen it for 13 out of the last 14 years? Something like that. That’s why we are freaking out.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we are catching the Angels at a bad time

A few things make this a bad time to be playing the Angels. First of all, they are a franchise that expects to be in first place in their division every year, and now the spot is up for grabs when they were way behind Seattle just a week ago. You know this series is important to them, and they are the home team so this is their time to come through. Also, their top 2 pitchers, Lackey and Ervin Santana will be coming off the DL this week, so you got a few guys, who are quality pitchers, fighting to keep their spot in the rotation and possible the roster. Granted Joe Saunders isn’t one of these guys, but Mattt Palmer and Shane Loux are. This being said, I obviously feel it is most likely the Royals will get swept here. I hope I’m wrong.

On the bright side, they have a great chance to rebound in Oakland and then at home against the Orioles.

by YouDon'tPhaseMeGobble on May 10, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

we did catch them at a bad time

BUT we had the lead or the chance to take the lead (runners in scoring position less than 2 outs) in every game.

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope this isnt...

the Royals first case to show up the Mets in the competition of which team hates their ace more.

Are you telling me Jesus Christ cant hit a curve ball?

by averagegatsby on May 10, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

i still love this team

even when tats pitches.

where tpj used to happen but no longer does due to his current dl status.

by blue bandwagon on May 10, 2009 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

What'd you think of the make/break?

Did we make it? :(

The 2009 Official You Got Rocked by the Royals and Sent to the Minors List
1. Josh Rupe TEX April 17
2. David Purcey TOR May 1
3. Brian Burres TOR May 1
4. Bryan Bullington TOR May 1

by 306008 on May 10, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He Was A

4/5 today, and on a good team.

I used to be an A's fan until they left town and got good.

by philofthenorth on May 11, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about Kansas City Royals.

Managers

Cimg0036_small Freneau

Editors

Dayton_small Jeff Zimmerman

Authors

Royalsretro_small RoyalsRetro

Headshot_small Old Man Duggan